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mb56 wrote:

One heaping pile of corruption all the way around. Not buying the RSA line that “the NSA tricked us”. Come on! When the government agency charged with breaking encryption, and who had previoulsy lobbied for the Clipper Chip, hands you a hand-crafted algorithm of their own you’d think supposed encryption professionals would be a litte leary wouldn’t you? I’ll never trust products from this company again – nor companies that use their products.

Dec 20, 2013 4:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DOCKING wrote:

Yet another example of why the DC criminals are not to be trusted, under any circumstances! When caught they always say, “”RSA always acts in the best interest of its customers…” Uhuh.

Dec 20, 2013 4:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pk47 wrote:

By insisting on “back doors” the NSA actually were hurting national security, because those same “back doors” could be exploited by international hackers and criminals (who seem to be very tech-savvy, perhaps more than the NSA itself). Thus, the NSA can read enything they want, but so do the criminals as well. Is that an intelligent way to promote security?

Dec 20, 2013 4:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MikkiDean wrote:

You guys do realize that if the American Congress does not act quickly – the NSA will have accomplished what no other force on earth has been able to do … Destroy the US economy. The repercussions of this serious compromise of American corporate computer products is only just beginning. No one will buy American computer hardware or software for fear of compromise. The Chinese are ready and able to move quickly to make this to their advantage.
Congress must act quickly to assure the world that American computer products are safe and the American Constitution is still in force.
How could our own government be so ill advised?

Dec 20, 2013 4:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MikkiDean wrote:

You guys do realize that if the American Congress does not act quickly – the NSA will have accomplished what no other force on earth has been able to do … Destroy the US economy. The repercussions of this serious compromise of American corporate computer products is only just beginning. No one will buy American computer hardware or software for fear of compromise. The Chinese are ready and able to move quickly to make this to their advantage.
Congress must act quickly to assure the world that American computer products are safe and the American Constitution is still in force.
How could our own government be so ill advised?

Dec 20, 2013 4:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
battleship wrote:

The corruption continues

Dec 20, 2013 5:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
james_blunt wrote:

I’m sure they’ll using the tradition justification for screwing their customers:
“We’ve done nothing illegal”.
Good for you, what a beacon of integrity. Not.

Dec 20, 2013 5:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

NSA, for all their promises and self-congratulations, sure did not do much to prevent the theft of 40 million credit and debit card numbers and personal profiles, (including home addresses, bank account numbers and phone numbers)…. over a 20-day period this month.

The Target transactions heist Just slipped by the NSA? They are either incompetent, lying or both. Either way, can’t trust the police. Any of them. They get a little bit of power, and they want you to worship them as ‘heroes.’ Most are just lazy tools.

Dec 20, 2013 5:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WhyMeLord wrote:

Feed all the data NSA collects directly onto Comedy Central, and we can all get a laugh out of this foolishness. NSA has collected enough data to make an electronic toll bridge to nowhere and back.
They have morphed into a government snake that is starting to feed on its own tail; can’t wait to see the darn thing go up in flames.
Rather than obsess on Obamacare, why doesn’t the GOP/NRA/TEA party coalition focus on this travesty of justice that is actually evil.

Dec 20, 2013 5:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“After Allegations of Wrongdoing, NSA Refuses Cavity Search of Back Doors.”

You can do that? Just refuse?

Dec 20, 2013 5:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Lloyd_L wrote:

The founding fathers wrote the Second Amendment in large part because of their fear of government tyranny. Even the Federalist Alexander Hamilton wrote, “… if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens.” Another Federalist, James Madison, drafted the Second Amendment.

Protecting our liberty is a constant struggle as our government uses the Patriot Act, N.S.A., T.S.A., E.P.A., F.B.I., U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and others to run roughshod over our citizens and businesses.

I won’t be giving up my guns anytime soon.

Dec 20, 2013 5:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WhyMeLord wrote:

Government Intelligence = An Oxymoron.
These two terms are mutually exclusive.
Never in recorded history, has a government done anything correctly first time out; trial and error is the only way a government learns.
The citizens must rely on their hopes and prayers that eventually a workable solution will be found (like blind pigs and acorns) before its too late to correct all the mistakes made along the way. LOL

Dec 20, 2013 5:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Adam_Smith wrote:

If governments are to be defenders of freedom rather than a threat to it then there are many inconveniences that governments must learn to accept. That the public may be able to effectively guard its privacy against government spying is one such inconvenience, although it is not the only one. That the public may be able to discover, through whistleblowers and investigative journalism what the government prefers to hide is another.

Dec 20, 2013 5:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Well Lloyd, unless you own F-16′s and nuclear weapons, you lost the arms race against the government a long time ago. 2nd Amendment is dead, if it was there to keep us level in power with the government.

They are laughing at your pistols and bird guns as we speak, if that’s the case. Iraq has 100,000 dead people who thought they could take on the U.S. military with personal firearms. Didn’t work out so well for them :)

Dec 20, 2013 5:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mikko_l wrote:

Fox Mulder was right, after all :)

Dec 20, 2013 5:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse

AlkalineState:

I hope you are better at your day job than you are military analysis.

A pistol exists to give you time to get your rifle. A rifle exists to give you time to get your platoon. And on and on. Most of the U.S. Armed Forces, in particular those that actually shoot for a living, are loyal to the American nation and their Constitution that established the U.S.A.

When push comes to shove, the Army will fight for the people of America, not for an illegitimate state.

Dec 20, 2013 6:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ncpg wrote:

Manufacturers should be sued for designing intentionally flawed products permitting “back-door” access.

Dec 20, 2013 6:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BigK2013 wrote:

I’m a former Census Bureau employee. I’m feeling sick to my stomach about this. All the data collected is supposedly secured and transmitted using RSA encryption. The only reason anyone shares information with the Census is because the promise given that the data is handled securely and is only used for statistical purposes.

I’m getting the word out to everyone to refuse answering Census surveys (so should you). Good luck getting people to agree to answer Census surveys in the future! Now every think tank and advocacy group is now having to depend on surveys with lower response rates, and much less reliable data.

The real kick in the head is realizing that all of this raw data has, as was reported from other Snowden leaks, been shared with the NSA’s “partners” in Israel. A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT HAS EXTREMELY PERSONAL INFO ON MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.

This is so completely outrageous, immoral, and treacherous. The scope of these crimes is so vast that I don’t think a few slaps on the wrist will do. Something big is coming. It ain’t gonna be pretty for those still clinging onto the wrong side of history.

Dec 20, 2013 6:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
enricofermi wrote:

I’m guessing someone got some personal bonuses that year too

Dec 20, 2013 6:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AdalbertoCer wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_wvMsPwT0 China is going to learn how to control the population using an illegal media.Mexico currently is worse that the Soviet Union at this time. http://lnkd.in/b3ZtmQg Mexicans are really stupid for sure http://lnkd.in/bcpeyck . No doubt about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K9SJai6PxY Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayas are alive, they survived, and they are against the illuminaties, lazies, homosexual among others https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=614153231964704&set=vb.478715722175123&type=2&theater The Aztec, Olmecs, Mayas and others are alive in Mexico against the Illuminaties, I hope can be extended to the north of Mexico and South of USA http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/video_fotos/2013/11/131129_audio_entrevista_pablo_escobar_rcn_ch.shtml?ocid=socialflow_facebook_mundo . Integral education at all level to protect our companies and our nation. Bill Gates copied me wrong https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=630317220339709&set=a.628957993808965.1073741825.620414357996662&type=1&theater Mexico and USA want their illegal Presidents in jail http://lnkd.in/bBPACTQ Both of them are workig as ex-CIA agents working for Bush https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=598481463552509&set=a.534281529972503.1073741827.105105869556740&type=1&theater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3QFCKEbO9A The right way for not paying taxes in LATAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MnS0AwoHQw&feature=youtu.be How to get ride of dictators http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHezFksIM68&feature=youtu.be Instead of studying, the government is saving money because capos are paying the students to work for them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Qa6s74GDI

Dec 20, 2013 6:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
riclf wrote:

jesus.

Dec 20, 2013 6:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
riclf wrote:

jesus.

Dec 20, 2013 6:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
brodave wrote:

Under Obama’s leadership (or rather lack of…) the totally corrupt US Federal Government has become the Number 1 enemy of We the People.

Dec 20, 2013 6:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Halo0DST wrote:

This is primarily to spy on Americans, as most if not all this crypto technology is illegal to export or even to sell to foreign nationals.

Dec 20, 2013 6:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
adamrussell wrote:

Wouldnt designing a back door into a product that you were selling as “secure” be a kind of fraud to your customers? You sold them one thing then gave them something else. I think you owe your customers a refund.

Dec 20, 2013 7:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Neurochuck wrote:

From a bit of background reading, one big problem with what the NSA has done, is that from first publication as a NIST standard, an increasing amount of doubt and investigation of weaknesses of Dual Elliptic Curve has occurred.
So over time, more and different “adversaries” would have broken the encryption by finding how to use the backdoor.
But copies of sensitive government, financial, commercial and personal data which had been thought “securely encrypted” and copied during transmission through telecom networks or transport to offline backup storage etc would then become decrypted to these entities.
This process can occur now and cannot be stopped, as for instance maths postgrads in Ukraine are given assignments to find and use the backdoor. eg: Suddenly, new revelations about 9/11 may appear somewhere.

Dec 20, 2013 7:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dr2chase wrote:

@brodave – this took place during the previous president’s term of office. Obama has no time machine.

Dec 20, 2013 7:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The NSA has been spending $250 million per year to corrupt these security devices, they’ve ruined everything. We junked all the RSA things on our private and secure communications site last month and upgraded to a completely different tech. unseen.is

Dec 20, 2013 7:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
burn wrote:

Look RSA is in every country…global

http://www.emc.com/collateral/corporate-communication/rsa-contact-names-2013.pdf

Dec 20, 2013 7:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
burn wrote:

Look RSA is in every country…global

http://www.emc.com/collateral/corporate-communication/rsa-contact-names-2013.pdf

Dec 20, 2013 7:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
burn wrote:

Look RSA is in every country…global

http://www.emc.com/collateral/corporate-communication/rsa-contact-names-2013.pdf

Dec 20, 2013 7:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
karimnn wrote:

Oh boy..

Dec 20, 2013 7:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Mickelenische wrote:

I’ve always known RSA was insecure. The only way to make sure your encryption is solid is if it is open source and you multiplex different encryptions over each other.

I prefer a version of PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) that was distributed before the government sued the author. You can still find that old version floating around from trusted sources – I have it from the original download I made before the lawsuit. Then I take the encrypted result and use another program to encrypt that cipher-text into a second level cipher text. If you use very large keys, it is virtually impossible to decrypt this without the keys.

Dec 20, 2013 7:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
paul1149 wrote:

One hopes that the intrusive surveillance revelations of the past year, along with the unparalleled mendacity and incompetence of obamacare, are finally enough to convince the majority of Americans that the experiment with enlarging the federal government’s power has been a disaster. One cannot fight terrorism with technology alone, while erroneously championing the terrorists’ ideology as a religion of peace. We would do well to start telling the truth about that ideology, and then we could rely on security measures more respectful of our rights.

Dec 20, 2013 7:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
herbxerx wrote:

@ AlkalineState

Not that civilian weaponry can compete with military hardware, but convincing our troops to staunch an American uprising may be a little bit different than sending them to kill brown terrorists.

Dec 20, 2013 7:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Private companies trying to do public work…. is a disaster. It’s a lucrative deal for the private companies, but they always drop the ball and demand more money. And generally get it. Think Halliburton and Iraq. What was Cheney’s incentive to win and leave?

Dec 20, 2013 7:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SirBill wrote:

Come on – the RSA employees thought it was a “safe, secure algorithm” and yet the government was going to pay THEM to use it? If RSA thought it was worth anything they would be paying the government for it… as soon as the government paid them to use it even the most polyanna among them should have known what was what.

Dec 20, 2013 7:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SirBill wrote:

Come on – the RSA employees thought it was a “safe, secure algorithm” and yet the government was going to pay THEM to use it? If RSA thought it was worth anything they would be paying the government for it… as soon as the government paid them to use it even the most polyanna among them should have known what was what.

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SirBill wrote:

Come on – the RSA employees thought it was a “safe, secure algorithm” and yet the government was going to pay THEM to use it? If RSA thought it was worth anything they would be paying the government for it… as soon as the government paid them to use it even the most polyanna among them should have known what was what.

Dec 20, 2013 7:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
solcates wrote:

From where I sit, this backdoor-in-a-standard fiasco highlights the advantages of open standards. There are a lot of really, really smart cryptographers out there, and many of them are trying to break encryption standards. On the other side, we have the government — with some of the smartest minds in cryptography behind closed doors — trying to insert a backdoor into a standard.

Vormetric does not use the backdoored standard. We use the CTR_DRBG method described in NIST SP 800-90, which is widely believed to be safe. Strong, secure encryption will keep your data safe – from attackers, insider threats, auditors, and even governments.

Dec 20, 2013 8:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Urtalk wrote:

Now the US Census Bureau and other agencies use the RSA tokens. All agencies should use and independent low bid contract for computer services. I think there is some cronyism here and kick backs.

Dec 20, 2013 8:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Urtalk wrote:

Now also the US Census Bureau uses the RSA tokens. How confidential is that if NSA can read the data. OH MY!!! Also, I think these agencies should use low bid quality contracts and stop the cronyism if it exists with RSA tokens.

Dec 20, 2013 8:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mb56 wrote:

“Under Obama’s leadership (or rather lack of…) the totally corrupt US Federal Government has become the Number 1 enemy of We the People.”
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Here come the simpletons trying to blame it all on Obama… puhleeze! As the article points out, the NSA was in bed with the RSA by 2006 – not exactly Obama’s watch. I’m not a fan of Obama’s coddling of the NSA to date… but clearly the NSA was out of control WELL before Obama came along.

Dec 20, 2013 9:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wanfuse123 wrote:

Any time anyone ever goes to a third party or group of people to have something built there will be risks of a product having a back door. Just like Snowden was a back door for the NSA. Open source with an ACTIVE review process by MANY diverse parties with diverse iterestest and a large bug bounty is the only way to insure security. We need to put VLB (Very Large Bounties) on back door bug discoveries. If an offer of 10 million dollars had been given to anyone blowing the whistle, my guess is that someone would have accidentally leaked the information to the press.

I would be willing to speculate that someone in our government hired Snowden to publish the documents in order to expose what was going on. The NSA Chief was all over the suggestion that it was a foreign government, but my guess is there is one or two good ones still in our government that had something to do with it..At least I can hope, dream, and speculate. It has become plainly obvious that there are very few people in our government that still believe in constitution over safety.

Dec 20, 2013 9:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
crosbyboyd wrote:

What were those RSA people thinking when they agreed to sell their principles for gold? With these disclosures, all the promises in the world won’t save RSA. No one will trust them again.

Dec 20, 2013 9:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
kaceltd wrote:

Does one not now wonder if all of those “multi-million credit card hacks”, are just a covert ‘slush’ fund operation………….

Dec 20, 2013 9:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
RJRiley wrote:

People should all shun this company and every politician who has facilitated NSA needs to have their disreputable tails kicked out of office.

It is a sorry day when our own government has become a far bigger threat than terrorists.

Dec 20, 2013 10:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
chinamike wrote:

This sounds unbelievable! A business that makes its money EXCLUSIVELY from security with itranets and computers??? I hope everyone that uses their service sues them AND gets their money.

Dec 20, 2013 11:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
thinkmac wrote:

Has anyone of you ever thought that maybe NSA actually tried to boost the encryption strength by pouring the $10 mil? I mean right now, we are all thinking the worst possible scenario…anything NSA touches…means yucky with kooty, but code is code… if it is actually secured, I don’t care if NSA poured money into it.

Dec 21, 2013 12:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
Moe-Smith wrote:

EF RSA and EF the NSA – this is OUR tax dollars – send to the gulag of unAmerican Activities in the name of greater budgets and stupid *****. Seriously – What country are we in?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

Live Free Or Die – New Hampshire.

Dec 21, 2013 2:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
TechConsumer wrote:

The boycott continues and grows in scope. No revenue for companies (RSA & EMC) that “sell out”! Now, tomorrow, ever again!. Call it commercial Darwinism!

How ironic a company basing its business model on security and privacy selling out for a few $s it’s “security” and “privacy” to the security state.

RSA & EMC noted in the list….. Popcorn in hand waiting for these companies to fold.

Dec 21, 2013 2:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
mnolan13 wrote:

What good is an unbreakable encryption if the random numbers must be taken off a NSA list? Doesn’t this revelation give every math student who learned the RSA proofs the NSA’s backdoor? The NSA number generator’s source is online, right?

Any IT professional who hasn’t changed their random number generators from the defaults by Christmas should be fired.

Dec 21, 2013 3:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Thor111 wrote:

Until when will the terrorist argument be valid?

Dec 21, 2013 3:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
BuckWheat2 wrote:

Go figure, I work at Etrade years ago and they issued RSA encryption devices to customers upon request and anyone with large accounts. The NSA was following the movements of every last one of us. I flag a suspicious account one day and was shock to learn nothing was ever done about it. Bog Brother has been up our rectum for years and it’s only getting worse.

Dec 21, 2013 4:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
BuckWheat2 wrote:

Go figure, I work at Etrade years ago and they issued RSA encryption devices to customers upon request and anyone with large accounts. The NSA was following the movements of every last one of us. I flag a suspicious account one day and was shock to learn nothing was ever done about it. Bog Brother has been up our rectum for years and it’s only getting worse.

Dec 21, 2013 4:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
davsti wrote:

Its The ENRON EFFECT again, sleeze at its best / worst, theft of everyone’s privacy to ensure safety, in the end you get neither.

Dec 21, 2013 5:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
Snidely70448 wrote:

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Dec 21, 2013 6:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
FlimFlamMan wrote:

“The White House, meanwhile, says it will consider this week’s panel recommendation that any efforts to subvert cryptography be abandoned.”

LOL. Yeah, right. And I own a bridge in New York that I’ll sell you, cheap! The proof of ulterior motives on the part of the ‘government’ is revealed in their use one just one word: TERRORIST. It is a general term that can be applied to anyone or any group that it so deems ‘terroristic.’ In that light ANYONE can be a terrorist and, hence, ANYONE can be made a TARGET of this massive military and surveillance infrastructure. The Bible says ‘there will be terrible times in the last days.’ 2 Tim 3:1. Yeah, no kidding. We’re here.

Dec 21, 2013 6:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
FlimFlamMan wrote:

This is all about trust. What we are being told by all of this is, basically, NO ONE can be trusted. When you see that https:// at the top of the screen and you get that warm fuzzy feeling that, “Oh good, no one can see this transaction. I’m safe.” Think again. If it is electronic, it is OPEN FOR ANYONE TO SEE. Glad I don’t own stock in RSA.

Dec 21, 2013 6:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
FMB501 wrote:

I’ll wager a large sum of money that RSA is only the tip of the iceberg with regard to NSA agreements with tech companies to embed backdoors to their security.

And RSA’s assertion that NSA misrepresented its encryption technology is laughable.

Think about it. NSA knocks on your door and says, “Hey, we have a new encryption technology we want you to use in your products.” And you don’t think that they haven’t engineered a backdoor to it’s own technology??

Virtually everything NSA does involves breaking codes, encryption, and gaining access to everything. We’ve seen that collecting vast amounts of data on every citizen in this country is OK with the White House and NSA, and that includes farmer Jones milking his cow in the middle of Kansas while on his cell phone ordering a bag of seeds for the spring planting.

This is got to stop. If NSA has probable cause backed by real evidence then I’m all in for them gaining access to the criminal and terrorist elements operating here in the US. But only with justifiable probable cause and with a valid secret warrant that includes honest oversight by an independent third party because I no longer trust the FISA court to act in the interest of the people and the Constitution.

Courts do not exist to facilitate the government’s grab for more power. They are their to provide citizens with justice and to be the guardians of our Constitutional rights.

In my opinion, courts have increasingly become the enemy of the people by allowing government to erode their rights–slowly, but consistently.

Courts should err on the side of the Constitution and not on the side of add to government power.

Dec 21, 2013 7:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
bonelyfish wrote:

Really like to know the rationale behind paying RSA money for keeping the backdoor if it was not as a bribery.

Dec 21, 2013 8:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
Franek-Jancka wrote:

You not at all have to submit to NSA. First: move from Windows/Mac to Linux. Start to use open source software. Avoid Google spy/add ecosystem. Use Firefox as your default browser. You might choose even Tor as your private browser. Use LibreOffice. Don’t use Adobe systems.

There is no need to live in Microsoft, Apple or Google ecosystems. Don’t be fool.

Dec 21, 2013 8:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
josetoyou1 wrote:

Our government is corrupt to the core starting with the traitor in OUR White House!

Dec 21, 2013 9:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
josetoyou1 wrote:

Our government is corrupt to the core starting with the traitor in OUR White House!

Dec 21, 2013 9:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
jackolantern wrote:

I knew this over 10 years ago, this was public information if one looked

Dec 21, 2013 10:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
jackolantern wrote:

I knew this over 10 years ago, this was public information if one looked

Dec 21, 2013 10:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
SaggyNutzinHD wrote:

Wow. This has epic ramifications.

Our government runs a Modern-Day Stasis State: But thanks to the heroic freedom-fighter and whistle-blower Edward J. Snowden we now know that an army of private contractors and the US Military unlawfully monitors everyone’s telephone traffic, all your contact lists, text messages, passwords, GPS locations with dates and time, FaceBook posts & pictures, LinkedIn pages & pictures, your search engine keywords entered (yes – even the keywords typed in but you don’t press the enter key), all web sites visited, all your credit card numbers, all your inbound and outbound e-mail messages, your voice-print, and facial image (for facial recognition devices planted around the world used to identify your movement). They store all that information permanently, under your name, at the US Military’s new massive Utah Data Center and can pull it up at any time in the future. They can even freely tap into the microphone and/or camera on your smart phone, tablet, laptop, PC, automobile’s OnStar system, xBox and similar Internet connected devices. Rest assured – if it connects to the Internet – the US Military can tap into it and illegally monitor you.

From Edward’s vantage point he learned that the NSA monitors Americans “even if you’re not doing anything wrong.” From “just sitting at my desk” Snowden said he had the “authority to wiretap anyone …” … “If I wanted to see your e-mail or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.” He also discovered that the NSA is “using the system to go back in time to discover everything you’ve done.”

All of this is terrifying stuff that confirms much of what has been revealed about NSA surveillance by Bill Binney and his fellow NSA whistle-blowers Tom Drake and Kirk Wiebe.

Snowden said: “I am not here to hide from justice; I am here to reveal criminality.”

Dec 21, 2013 10:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
MurphyMurphy wrote:

If only the morons in the USA were as vigilant against fascism as they seem to be against “soshulism”

We have undermined ourselves in such a terrible way.

Everything that is supposed to make us who we are has been thrown in the trash by those that would claim authority over all.

The final measure of oversight in a Democracy is the people, and this is why they hide themselves from us.

Not to prevent the education or emboldening of our enemies, but to keep you from realizing the truth: The government that is supposed to serve you, serves itself. And you are one of the potential enemies it’s on the look out for.

Dec 21, 2013 10:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
SpeaktheTruth wrote:

So for those wondering how some businesses become successful while so many similar business fail in the same field, the admire is simple. They are either being paid by the government or they are a thusly fully government owned (Google)….

Dec 21, 2013 10:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
NoMoGrifters wrote:

How’s that hope and change BS working out?

Dec 21, 2013 10:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
NoMoGrifters wrote:

How’s that hope and change BS working out?

Dec 21, 2013 10:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
NoMoGrifters wrote:

Hope and Change,
Hope and Change.
I love
Hope and Change.

Dec 21, 2013 10:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
SaveRMiddle wrote:

@SaggyNutzinHD….Great post. Thought provoking depth.

Dec 21, 2013 11:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
jakes.dad wrote:

so the review panel wasn’t lying when they wrote: “The NSA did not contribute to, nor modify, the design of RSA, but it did provide input on RSA usage in standards.”

NSA didn’t weaken RSA, they simply paid RSA to weaken it themselves! I’m so thankful we have such honest/transparent people doing the review!

Dec 21, 2013 11:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
TGuy wrote:

Well….so much for Deutsche Telephone plan for a secure internet service called “CleanPipe” in which Deutsche Telekom partners with RSA (part of U.S. technology firm EMC) in a test phase scheduled to hit the market early next year.”

- What foreign Government or Company will now trust EMC ?
- How many other US security companies have been bribed by NSA?

EMC recently stated “…revenue from the U.S. government usually accounts for about 10-15 percent of EMC’s total revenue.”

I wonder if the 10 million dollars is included in that total? :)

Dec 21, 2013 3:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I wonder what companies are paying Snowden and company to keep their secret contracts secret?

Dec 21, 2013 3:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
crabbysam wrote:

I’d really like to know precisely what “commercial relationships with these unknown security companies were collaborators” in allowing this back door voluntarily.

We all know security companies like Hushmail are NSA friendly, but knowing who some of these other companies are would be nice to know…

…I’d then know what companies to boycott & avoid buying from or using.

Dec 21, 2013 4:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JohnSkookum wrote:

I thought the Microsoft _NSAKEY controversy of 1999 was a one-off from a uniquely evil company that had sold its soul to the NSA in exchange for some secret payoff or assistance. Now, with one company after another being exposed as lackeys for the Federal Government, I’m beginning to wonder if something else is happening. Something along the lines of “Play ball with us and we’ll make you rich, resist us and we’ll torture your family to death in front of you.” That could explain the exceedingly weird way that Chief Justice Roberts when Obamacare came before the Supreme Court.

Dec 21, 2013 5:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JohnSkookum wrote:

I thought the Microsoft _NSAKEY controversy of 1999 was a one-off from a uniquely evil company that had sold its soul to the NSA in exchange for some secret payoff or assistance. Now, with one company after another being exposed as lackeys for the Federal Government, I’m beginning to wonder if something else is happening. Something along the lines of “Play ball with us and we’ll make you rich, resist us and we’ll torture your family to death in front of you.” That could explain the exceedingly weird way that Chief Justice Roberts when Obamacare came before the Supreme Court.

Dec 21, 2013 5:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LWJR2 wrote:

Compromised, RSA used to be a good company.

Dec 21, 2013 7:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mundomio.org wrote:

Agreed, MB56. It sounds like they were saying, “We knew the algorithm was flawed, but they did not let on that they knew it.” Not an adequate defense.

Even if they accepted a flawed formula for $10M and didn’t think the gov knew how to crack it, that says a lot about the company.

Dec 21, 2013 8:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

> arranged a secret $10 million contract with RSA,
Well, here is another of the things you reap when you engage in criminal behavior – you can kiss RSA goodbye. While we’re at it kiss fighter aircraft jobs goodbye, the credibility of google, yahoo, verizon good bye, kiss the credibility of the state department goodbye -funny how the rot spreads throughout the entire country, isn’t it? Hilarious. You have obama, pelosi, boehner, feinstein and the rest of congress to thank for the criminal states of america. Enjoying a destroyed reputation yet?

Dec 21, 2013 11:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Illusionist wrote:

Anyone in charge of IT that continues to use ANY U.S. company for security or cloud storage needs to have their head examined. This certainly will not be the only company that got into bed with the NSA.

Since most of the security work is not done by private contractors, do you really want employees of other corporations having access to YOUR data? With over 5 million people with security clearances, what could possibly go wrong?

Dec 22, 2013 12:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillyHewitt wrote:

Dear Sir,

Now that Marion Judge Mark Spitzer has instructed the public school children on the American Constitution he should visit the White House and instruct President Barack Hussein Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden that they have attacked America by scrapping the 4th Amendment to the American Constitution and attempted to turn America into a police state. This has violated their oath of office and it is every American’s duty to see that these criminals are impeached, indicted, prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated in the concentration camp located in Guantanamo, Cuba and waterboarded until they confess their crimes. American hero Edward Snowden should be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize for being a modern day Paul Revere and warning America of the NSA Gestapo installed by the Democratic Party.

US Constitution of America

AMENDMENT IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Replace Politician HHS Sebelius with Scientist Dr Theresa A Deisher PhD with “GREEN” Vaccines, Drugs, Cosmetics, Food, Water and stop autism!

Dec 22, 2013 2:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
BillyHewitt wrote:

Dear Sir,

Now that Marion Judge Mark Spitzer has instructed the public school children on the American Constitution he should visit the White House and instruct President Barack Hussein Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden that they have attacked America by scrapping the 4th Amendment to the American Constitution and attempted to turn America into a police state. This has violated their oath of office and it is every American’s duty to see that these criminals are impeached, indicted, prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated in the concentration camp located in Guantanamo, Cuba and waterboarded until they confess their crimes. American hero Edward Snowden should be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize for being a modern day Paul Revere and warning America of the NSA Gestapo installed by the Democratic Party.

US Constitution of America

AMENDMENT IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Replace Politician HHS Sebelius with Scientist Dr Theresa A Deisher PhD with “GREEN” Vaccines, Drugs, Cosmetics, Food, Water and stop autism!

Dec 22, 2013 2:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
pio66 wrote:

as cryptome states all this info no docs to support

Dec 22, 2013 4:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
wtpayne wrote:

So does this mean that EMC cannot be trusted? We just spent a boatload of money on EMC kit, and I’m pretty sure they don’t do refunds….

Dec 23, 2013 5:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
Scout88 wrote:

“NSA documents released in recent months called for using “commercial relationships” to advance that goal, but did not name any security companies as collaborators.”…

Mega I.T. corporation CGI has MAJOR contracts with the NSA, in fact the evidence support CGI run the NSA…

“CGI…For more than 30 years, we’ve partnered with U.S. defense, civilian, and intelligence agencies”… http://www.nhdf.org/7-national-symposium/exhibitors/whos-exhibiting/cgi

http://jobs.cgi.com/key/NSA-Langley-VA-jobs.html

CGI employee speaking for – The director of the NSA, Gen. Keith B. Alexander… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmyssyYJ4po

CGI employee speaking in video above… http://www.cgi.com/en/management/barbara-fast

http://www.collaborativegov.org/author/barbara-fast/

“CGI’s Initiative for Collaborative Government…“Government today collaborates with the private sector in executing a broad range of mission and administrative functions…Specific examples of “collaborative government” include solution approaches such as service acquirer-provider relationships, public-private partnerships and cross-jurisdiction data exchanges, just to name a few.” The Initiative is focused on helping federal government agencies capitalize on collaborative government models to enhance mission results.”… http://www.cgi.com/en/cgi-and-george-mason-university-announce-initiative-collaborative-government

“CGI greatly values its continuing partnership with DHS in support of its mission to protect the homeland, prevent terrorism, enforce and administer immigration laws, promote commerce and respond to disasters”… http://www.cgi.com/en/CGI-selected-Technical-Acquisition-Business-Support-Services-DHS

“CGI awarded Agreement to provide cyber security continuous diagnostic and mitigation tools, as well as Continuous Monitoring as a Service for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The $6 billion multiple-award contract…”…

http://www.washingtonexec.com/2013/09/cgi-federal-inc-wins-position-on-6-billion-bpa-from-dhs/

Dec 24, 2013 4:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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