Thai crisis deepens as army chief hints at intervention

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Eric.Klein wrote:

A protest group lead by a man under inditement for the deaths in the previous round of protests wants to set up a group that would remove the 1 person 1 vote democratic system.

He wants to set up his own council to change the voting laws so that the poor, who have benefited from the policies of the Puea Thai Party.

If you do not like that people vote for the other party make it harder (or illegal) for them to vote (and maybe get out of going to jail yourself for past wrongs).

Seems that this is just what the American Republican and Tea Parties are trying to do with redistricting voter suppression.

Dec 27, 2013 2:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
dmitry0 wrote:

Suthep Thaugsuban and other leaders of the Democrat Party in Thailand are clamoring for the suspension of its modest democracy. These demagogues are calling for a military coup.

When we see this bizarre situation in which a political party in a “democracy” aligns with goons to overthrow a duly elected government, we must ask, “What is wrong with the people of this ‘democracy’? Why do the majority of the people allow a minority to destroy the institutions of democracy?”

This kind of idiocy does not occur in a Western democracy like Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand, then you are well educated, and you can, via the Internet, read about how a nation like Germany operates in a vastly different way. You know that the people destroying the future of Thailand are the royal family, the politicians in the Democrat Party, the thugs who seized control of the government offices, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand and if you care about your nation, then you must take up arms (i.e., weapons) and protect the government of Yingluck Shinawatra. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family and must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban, etc.

Violence is wrong in a Western democracy, but Thailand is not such a democracy. It is being impeded by the monarchy, the military, and the political minority represented by the Democrat Party. When a nation is harmed by this kind of minority, which constantly threatens to use violence, the majority must rise up and use violence to promote a Western democracy.

Yingluck Shinawatra and her brother need your help. Both she and her brother have tried strenuously to Westernize Thailand so that you, the Thai citizen, can enjoy the same level of freedoms and prosperity that exists in the West. The Democrat Party and the monarchy have tried to block their efforts. Only you, the university student who knows the facts about genuine Western democracies and Thailand, can fix this situation. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family, and you must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban.

reporter, USA, http://theclearsky.blogspot.com/

Dec 27, 2013 4:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
dmitry0 wrote:

Suthep Thaugsuban and other leaders of the Democrat Party in Thailand are clamoring for the suspension of its modest democracy. These demagogues are calling for a military coup.

When we see this bizarre situation in which a political party in a “democracy” aligns with goons to overthrow a duly elected government, we must ask, “What is wrong with the people of this ‘democracy’? Why do the majority of the people allow a minority to destroy the institutions of democracy?”

This kind of idiocy does not occur in a Western democracy like Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand, then you are well educated, and you can, via the Internet, read about how a nation like Germany operates in a vastly different way. You know that the people destroying the future of Thailand are the royal family, the politicians in the Democrat Party, the thugs who seized control of the government offices, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand and if you care about your nation, then you must take up arms (i.e., weapons) and protect the government of Yingluck Shinawatra. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family and must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban, etc.

Violence is wrong in a Western democracy, but Thailand is not such a democracy. It is being impeded by the monarchy, the military, and the political minority represented by the Democrat Party. When a nation is harmed by this kind of minority, which constantly threatens to use violence, the majority must rise up and use violence to promote a Western democracy.

Yingluck Shinawatra and her brother need your help. Both she and her brother have tried strenuously to Westernize Thailand so that you, the Thai citizen, can enjoy the same level of freedoms and prosperity that exists in the West. The Democrat Party and the monarchy have tried to block their efforts. Only you, the university student who knows the facts about genuine Western democracies and Thailand, can fix this situation. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family, and you must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban.

reporter, USA, http://theclearsky.blogspot.com/

Dec 27, 2013 4:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
dmitry0 wrote:

Suthep Thaugsuban and other leaders of the Democrat Party in Thailand are clamoring for the suspension of its modest democracy. These demagogues are calling for a military coup.

When we see this bizarre situation in which a political party in a “democracy” aligns with goons to overthrow a duly elected government, we must ask, “What is wrong with the people of this ‘democracy’? Why do the majority of the people allow a minority to destroy the institutions of democracy?”

This kind of idiocy does not occur in a Western democracy like Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand, then you are well educated, and you can, via the Internet, read about how a nation like Germany operates in a vastly different way. You know that the people destroying the future of Thailand are the royal family, the politicians in the Democrat Party, the thugs who seized control of the government offices, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand and if you care about your nation, then you must take up arms (i.e., weapons) and protect the government of Yingluck Shinawatra. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family and must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban, etc.

Violence is wrong in a Western democracy, but Thailand is not such a democracy. It is being impeded by the monarchy, the military, and the political minority represented by the Democrat Party. When a nation is harmed by this kind of minority, which constantly threatens to use violence, the majority must rise up and use violence to promote a Western democracy.

Yingluck Shinawatra and her brother need your help. Both she and her brother have tried strenuously to Westernize Thailand so that you, the Thai citizen, can enjoy the same level of freedoms and prosperity that exists in the West. The Democrat Party and the monarchy have tried to block their efforts. Only you, the university student who knows the facts about genuine Western democracies and Thailand, can fix this situation. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family, and you must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban.

reporter, USA, http://theclearsky.blogspot.com/

Dec 27, 2013 4:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
dmitry0 wrote:

Suthep Thaugsuban and other leaders of the Democrat Party in Thailand are clamoring for the suspension of its modest democracy. These demagogues are calling for a military coup.

When we see this bizarre situation in which a political party in a “democracy” aligns with goons to overthrow a duly elected government, we must ask, “What is wrong with the people of this ‘democracy’? Why do the majority of the people allow a minority to destroy the institutions of democracy?”

This kind of idiocy does not occur in a Western democracy like Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand, then you are well educated, and you can, via the Internet, read about how a nation like Germany operates in a vastly different way. You know that the people destroying the future of Thailand are the royal family, the politicians in the Democrat Party, the thugs who seized control of the government offices, etc.

If you are a student at a university in Thailand and if you care about your nation, then you must take up arms (i.e., weapons) and protect the government of Yingluck Shinawatra. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family and must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban, etc.

Violence is wrong in a Western democracy, but Thailand is not such a democracy. It is being impeded by the monarchy, the military, and the political minority represented by the Democrat Party. When a nation is harmed by this kind of minority, which constantly threatens to use violence, the majority must rise up and use violence to promote a Western democracy.

Yingluck Shinawatra and her brother need your help. Both she and her brother have tried strenuously to Westernize Thailand so that you, the Thai citizen, can enjoy the same level of freedoms and prosperity that exists in the West. The Democrat Party and the monarchy have tried to block their efforts. Only you, the university student who knows the facts about genuine Western democracies and Thailand, can fix this situation. You must kill the king and the rest of the royal family, and you must kill politicians like Suthep Thaugsuban.

reporter, USA, http://theclearsky.blogspot.com/

Dec 27, 2013 4:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
NiramolS. wrote:

The recent polls in Thailand before the protest didn’t yield the “certain to win” results. For instance, one showed that the opposition party was leading by 10% and even that they still decided to boycott the election. Another poll said that the majority want the reformation of the system before the election.

Dec 27, 2013 1:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NiramolS. wrote:

The recent polls in Thailand before the protest didn’t yield the “certain to win” results. For instance, one showed that the opposition party was leading by 10% and even that they still decided to boycott the election. Another poll said that the majority want the reformation of the system before the election.

Dec 27, 2013 1:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NiramolS. wrote:

What Eric.Klein said is not the fact. The protesters never want to remove the 1 person 1 vote system; but a reformation of the system before the actual election. The reformation want the vote cheaters from any party to take more responsibilities by getting jail time rather just having their election right taken away for a couple years.

Dec 27, 2013 1:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Sawang wrote:

Western news media largely understates the people power throughout the whole country of Thailand. We, together, have the political will for a national change. We want to eradicate the corrupt regime and harness the election rules for a level playing field.

Dec 27, 2013 7:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

“The reason that brought all of us here is because we can’t stand this corrupt government anymore. Since Yingluck’s Government came into power, extensive damage has been done to the country. And all this massive damage is due to their massive corruption.

We are furious, worried and scared to hear about massive corruption projects. These include a packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country; and a bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years. In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket.

Despite protests from environmentalists, students and locals, as well as warnings from scientists that the project will destroy around 1,760 hectares of forest (which happens to be excellent wildlife habitat), the dam will not solve flooding problems, according to a study. Still, the Government chose to remove environmentalist and authorities who oppose to the idea from the committee and replaced them with people representing their interests. This led to a popular protest campaign against the construction of the dam where local people, academics and environmentalists marched from Chiangmai (north of Thailand) to Bangkok — a 388- kilometer walk. At the final stop, Sasin Chalermlarp, the environmentalist who led the protest announced he had received death threats from the government if he continues the campaign. Last we heard, the government insisted they will go ahead with the construction of dam despite the protest.

Of all the corruption issues raised, the government has failed to respond to any of them. To make matters worse, the prime minister is often seen walking away, refusing to answer any of these questions. One female reporter from Channel 7 once cornered her with questions regarding her wrong doing, and the next day the red shirts surrounded Channel 7, demanding the station to fire that news reporter.

Since Yingluck Shinawatara came in power, the government has slowly taken control of all the prime networks, even seizing a couple and turning them into their own PR channels. News about government or red shirts’ wrong doings are censored or distorted to justify their wrong doings. The only channel that remains free of the government control is Thai PBS and an educational channel.

But what sparked the outrage nationwide since Yingluck came in power was the government’s attempt to pass the graft amnesty bill, which is a license for Thaksin — the prime minister’s brother and also Thailand’s ex- prime minister — to return to Thailand from exile non-guilty (Thaksin Shinawatara has been found guilty of several corruption charges. He has run away from his jail term and is now living in exile). Protests from different organizations, universities and businesses have occured nationwide every day and finally led to the ongoing anti-government protests you see now.”
Credit: Pattaya, RYOT News

Do you still think that this government help the poor? Instead, they came up with fail projects after projects trying to win popularity votes so they can corrupt even more. As Westerners, you cannot imagine how these guys can use their power to cheat and get their votes. There probably is not existing in your countries. Don’t forget that several evil dictators(Ferdinand Marcos, Adolf Hitler, etc.) won the election and we don’t want this kind of leaders. This country needs REFORM before ELECTION to prevent this crooked Government to come back. AND it will not happen if the old team is involved. Clear?

Dec 28, 2013 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
puisitang wrote:

I don’t think you have any ideas how this crooked government have corrupted massively including:
-A packed-rice scheme, which has cost the state about five billion baht; a rice-price-pledging policy which caused staggering financial burden to the country
-A bill that authorized 2 trillion baht in loans, which will put Thailand in great debt for another 50 years.
-In April, the Cabinet approved 13 billion baht to build a dam at Mae Wong national park — one of Thailand’s healthiest forests— claiming this will solve flooding problems. But everyone knows the dam has to be built so the government could sell the wood and put the cash in their pocket. And more…
Do you know that this same party (“Pheu Thai” who formed this government) with different names (Palang Dharmar + Thai Rak Thai) had been dissolved twice because they broke the election laws?
If it is in your country, will this party be elected back in power? Probably not. But in Thailand, they did come back in the name of “Pheu Thai” party. This is why we need to reform before election so those crooks cannot come back!

Dec 30, 2013 12:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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