Japan gets Okinawa approval for U.S. Marine base move

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It is easy to imagine life of Okinawa people with Futenma base.
Just imagine Central Park in New York is a place of military airport with aircrafts operations all day and night long. Or try to think about JFK airport in Central Park and La Guardia in Brooklyn.
Okinawa has area of 500 square miles, 100 square miles is for US bases, that leaves 400 square miles to 1.4 milion inhabitants. A wonderful life they have ?

Dec 27, 2013 10:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
herestp wrote:

An even better idea is to kick out the Japanese from Naha air bases. Let US move from Futenma to Naha and forget about Henoko altogether.
Okinawa is in harms way, first to be attacked by China/N Korea with Japanese military there, so better for Okinawans to achieve independence now to remove the danger. People should support Okinawan independence as this is the only way to achieve peace in the region and prevent global economic crisis. US will still be in Okinawa for defensive posture, offensive only with Okinawan approval.
Japanese military placed further away in Kyushu, maybe extra 1000 miles away makes it less advantageous for Abe to patrol Diaoyu/Senkaku and he will be forced to negotiate with China.

http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/i/a-001/index.html

Dec 27, 2013 10:15am EST  --  Report as abuse

Close ALL bases. It’s not our job to protect Japan.

Dec 27, 2013 10:24am EST  --  Report as abuse

Gee. I thought we won that war Japan started! I must be mistaken.

Well, since over 12,000 American Marines died and 38,000 were wounded taking Okinawa in 1945, one would think we should just forget about that war? And pretend that Japan is just a peaceful Pacific country?

Dec 27, 2013 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
bigsurleo wrote:

It is their territory they should probably get to decide what to do with it.If they do not want a Marine base there who can blame the. The base itself will be a military target not to mention the fact that the marines there have a record of abusing the locals. Imagine if the invasion of Pearl Harbor had led to the Japanese occupation of Hawaii. We would want them gone right. Especially if the were abusive to remaining populations of americans. Not to mention the fact that Stanford Dole effectively stole control of Hawaii from Hawaii’s legitimate ruling family at the point of a gun in the face of objections from the President of the U.S.. Guess where the U.S. invasion of Hawaii took place? Thats right kids pearl harbor what a coincidence

Dec 27, 2013 11:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
bigsurleo wrote:

It is their territory they should probably get to decide what to do with it.If they do not want a Marine base there who can blame the. The base itself will be a military target not to mention the fact that the marines there have a record of abusing the locals. Imagine if the invasion of Pearl Harbor had led to the Japanese occupation of Hawaii. We would want them gone right. Especially if the were abusive to remaining populations of americans. Not to mention the fact that Stanford Dole effectively stole control of Hawaii from Hawaii’s legitimate ruling family at the point of a gun in the face of objections from the President of the U.S.. Guess where the U.S. invasion of Hawaii took place? Thats right kids pearl harbor what a coincidence

Dec 27, 2013 11:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
bigsurleo wrote:

It is their territory they should probably get to decide what to do with it. If they do not want a Marine base there who can blame them. The base itself will be a military target not to mention the fact that the marines there have a record of abusing the locals. Imagine if the invasion of Pearl Harbor had led to the Japanese occupation of Hawaii. We would want them gone right. Especially if the were abusive to remaining populations of americans. Not to mention the fact that Stanford Dole effectively stole control of Hawaii from Hawaii’s legitimate ruling family at the point of a gun in the face of objections from the President of the U.S.. Guess where the U.S. invasion of Hawaii took place? Thats right kids pearl harbor what a coincidence

Dec 27, 2013 11:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
202X0 wrote:

Hmmm. Futenma was built in 1945. I wonder who moved closer to whom? Was the base an encroachment on the city or the city an encroachment on the base? So to Wantunbiasednew- Imagine New Yorkers building Central Park around JFK is the accurate analogy.

Funniest part. I was there when the U.S.of A. GAVE Okinawa back to Japan. Not many Okinawan(s) were happy about that. The only reason Japan wanted Okinawa was to develop it into a “Japanese Hawaii”.They spent a year hauling sand to Okinawa for the World’s Expo that year so they could have a “beach” over the lava flows.

So, they want to build a land fill hmmm. Ok. And BTW those 2,000 protesters- probably flown in from Japan.

Dec 27, 2013 11:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

Why are we there anyway? How would the leeches in D.C. feel if Japan had a military base here?

Dec 27, 2013 1:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Grinlsson wrote:

Japan must realize, as the world does, that they are not our (America’s) “natural” allies, such as the Philippines is. Japan is our ally because we used atomic bombs on their nations to compel them to stop their international war on the nations surrounding them and the United States. We are the Mother country of the Philippines and they are also our natural friends. Japan is not even a “natural friend” of the United States.
Under the American “umbrella” of defense, they must relinquish Okinawa to American demands, and not to some Japanese mayor who feels compelled to degrade the Americans stationed there. He has no right to do so.

With so many Americans lost in World War 2, if I were the Commander, I would compel the Japanese to move their city to another island before accommodating their requests. But, then again, I’m not the Secretary of Defense or the American president, but rather just a writer who likes to remind nations of their situation and how they got into that situation by not confronting government extremism. It’s the people of a nation, in the end, who must pay for their government’s atrocities.

And, knowing the Japanese they would afford the Senkakus/Diaoyu Islands as a new American base, if the United States just leveled the island with bulldozers to make an airbase.

Secretary of Defense should have told the Japanese Mayor to go to hxxl and cease and desist degrading American soldiers or does Japan forget their comfort women slavery program?

Dec 27, 2013 4:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Vuenbelvue wrote:

Move it back to the Air Force Base that was built and staffed and then closed in Smyrna, Tn. Let the Japanese defend themselves from those overpopulated Asian countries. Have a reduction in force (RIF) for the Officer Corps.

Dec 27, 2013 7:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

Yeah, we’ll close the base. And we’ll also let you fend for yourselves when the Chinese start trying to annex everything in your region, in the next 50 years. Oh… And we’ll also be happy to let you clean up your own earthquakes and crappy nuclear plants that fall apart. There you go, problem solved.

Dec 27, 2013 9:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
trepman wrote:

“Yes end the Imperialistic territorial expansion of the Evil United States Empire in our Peaceful Japan!” *Massive Tsunami Hits off Japanese Coast* “Praise the United States Military for quickly dropping in billions of dollars of much needed aid to the region!” (Not possible without US air base in Okinawa and would result in thousands more Japanese starving and suffering) Does this sound hypocritical to you or is it just me?

Dec 27, 2013 10:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

What does the future have in store, in this picture?

China is approaching a state of global economic, technological and industrial independence – with its military growing rapidly (as are the ambitions of the Chinese military). That is to say that China is about to become a major global “superpower” – not particularly dissimilar to the 1930′s Japan. Too much of the world is dependent upon China; while China is little dependent upon the rest of the world.

Ironies of history aside, the U.S. and/or Japan need a powerful military presence on Okinawa; given Okinawa’s strategic location. The alternative is a permanent set of U.S. aircraft carriers and submarines in the region – a very expensive and risky alternative.

In the background, China has been militarily aggressive in the Pacific for a long time. Accordingly, the U.S. also needs to expedite re-opening the U.S. bases in the Philippines; if possible. Right now, the Philippines are probably very open-minded about accommodating such a move – the typhoon damage was/is that extensive.

If the ‘traditional’ magnitude of “raw corruption” in the Philippines can be contained, there is no reason why the Philippines couldn’t be turned into another producer of industrial and technology products – similar to Taiwan or South Korea.

If the Philippines could be ‘converted’ into another “Taiwan” – with the U.S. military bases restored – China’s “nationalist” ambitions to uniquely reign over the vast Pacific undersea oil reserves would be radically curtailed.

Then, there’s Viet Nam -

Few appreciate that the Viet Nam War was far more about securing/controlling off-shore oil; than battling ‘Communism.’ Similarly, the CIA “secret war” in Laos & Cambodia was far more about control of the opium supply from the “Golden Triangle.” (Shades of “Afghanistan!”)

How ironic that John Kerry must now suck up to Viet Nam! Economics aside, Viet Nam is now a key player toward containing any Chinese military ambitions. Invasion aside, China claims Viet Nam’s off-shore oil. Historically, Viet Nam has always soundly defeated the Chinese Army; but those days are clearly gone. As with China, “Communism” isn’t a problem for whatever U.S. interests may now exist in regard to Viet Nam.

The New Space Race –

While still “unspeakable” (internationally illegal/secret), the race is also on for the militarization of outer space. China is (un-admittedly) making surprising progress in that department, also. (Not that the USA doesn’t have its share of ‘secrets’ in that realm.)

Logically, China should be expected to put up its own “space station” before too long. Assemble enough resources at such a facility – and you’re off to put a permanent orbital “military base.”

Install enough LASER technology at such a ‘base;’ and you have a scaled down “death star” – ala “Star Wars” – and a sacred mission for a real-life Luke Skywalker. What a logo: “Cities Burned or Satellites Destroyed – While You wait!”

“Science Fiction?” Not! There is a major question as to what to do with the library classification of “Science Fiction.” Einstein had it right – “Imagination is more important than knowledge.”

In concert, to borrow a line from The Mentalist: “Any task can be accomplished; if it’s broken down into manageable parts.”

China has such a huge population that, ‘statistically,’ they have access to a tremendous volume of “genius” – augmented by unknown “computer power.” What CAN’T China accomplish – if they so choose? For all the technology which has already turned up in the Chinese military, seeming “technological miracles” could quickly appear.

Back to Okinawa -

Currently, the U.S. is at its weakest industrial, political and military posture since before W.W. II. What are the odds of China missing the historic “timing” opportunity? The U.S. is currently focused on creating a war on Islam; using “terrorism” (Islamic militant “revenge”) as an excuse. China isn’t oblivious to the U.S. inability to fight ANY sophisticated military force – without resorting to ‘nukes.’ It doesn’t take a genius to realize that the U.S. can’t battle “Islam” and China at the same time – using ‘conventional’ weaponry.

AND – has everyone forgotten that Chinese ‘companies’ operate the Panama Canal? How much ‘sabotage’ would it take to cripple the U.S. Navy – and economic interests dear to the USA?

If China is ever factually determined to militarily engage the U.S.; a major U.S. military footprint (including major logistics) on Okinawa is crucial! Certainly, Japan fears that China would love to avenge “The Rape of Nanking” on Tokyo – or any major Japanese city.

Politically and militarily, Okinawa is far more vital than just Japanese nationalism and the convenience of local demographics. At a minimum, Okinawa would serve as a military “time” firewall for Japan – ala the W.W. II history. But the Irony! Imagine U.S. forces dying on Okinawa; to the benefit of Japan.

What would Tom Clancy have speculated? No doubt, the CIA would somehow save America. They’d better do it before Hillary gets elected.

Dec 27, 2013 11:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Verpoly wrote:

So Abe swindled Okinawa residents simply by saying the U.S. military base was moving to win preliminary approval from them. Now they voice their protest for betrayal by Abe, as it’s not moving out, but merely a relocation within. Big liar.

Dec 28, 2013 3:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
ccharles wrote:

It would be good for the usa to get out of japan. With there lock down on any news from the Fukushima problem, its about time someone goes into japan and invade them and take over the nuclear problem and remove the treachous goverment. To allow there people to be radiated just so they would have a country to govern is a lame excuse to let over 30 mill people to be exposed to radioactive particle fall out. They had an earthquake not far from fukushima recently. and no news out of fukushima on it. Lame! The USS ronald reagen crew got radiated in relief work. Get our people out and let china go in there and take care of it.

Jan 02, 2014 12:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
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