Obama targets poverty in San Antonio, Philadelphia and other U.S. 'zones'

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cleanupphilly wrote:

This will be a boondoggle of graft and abuse like all of the HUD programs have been in Philly.

Jan 08, 2014 8:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
cleanupphilly wrote:

It is astounding that he learned nothing from the fate of the recovery and Tarp money he gave to the Philly region – most of it was frittered away in the Philly Democratic old school machine.

Jan 08, 2014 8:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
AZreb wrote:

The “war” on poverty, like the “war” on drugs, has dragged on for decades. Half-hearted, half-witted, half-baked solutions have not worked. Those solutions have benefited big business, Wall Street and politicians, not the people.

Do I have a solution? No – there will always be those who are richer, more powerful than I am. Take money out of politics? About as likely as I am to lose 30 pounds, gain 2 inches in height and become a millionaire. Make corporations pay more taxes for their outsourced businesses? Sheesh – who do you think puts the money into politics in the first place?

Term limits on Congress? Again – why would the members of Congress want that – and they are the ones who would vote on a bill that would limit their time in office and all the goodies that go with it – plus having a golden door to business or other positions in government when they leave Congress?

Jan 08, 2014 8:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
4825 wrote:

LBJ declared a war on poverty back in the 60′s. The liberals have continued their fight in the war on poverty ever since. Well, we all know now that poverty has won the war and it is due to failed Liberal Democrat policies. Time for real hope and change, get rid of the liberal democrats.

Jan 08, 2014 8:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
mailman19c wrote:

The Choctaw casino is the biggest money maker in this area!

Jan 08, 2014 8:29am EST  --  Report as abuse

More subterfuge from a rediculously inept administration.

Jan 08, 2014 8:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
KC9EYE wrote:

The Choctaw Nation? Native Americans don’t even pay taxes!

Jan 08, 2014 8:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
reasonable2 wrote:

BRAVO Mr. President!

Jan 08, 2014 8:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
charlesmarks wrote:

poverty?….I know you don’t like to come down here to the south….you send Joe when necessary…. but if it is poverty you seek…. It is here in abundance for you…if you care

Jan 08, 2014 8:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
cebva wrote:

Stop the War on Business and the poverty issue will take care of itself. The high-tax, anti-business, anti-energy policies of this administration have prolonged the recession’s agony. ØCare threatens the future as costs escalate and employers move people to part-time. A higher minimum wage discourages employment and encourages more automation. Job-robbing illegals are sucking away our public resources.

It is indeed time for change. Drill here, drill now, build the Keystone pipeline, repeal ØCare, stop the EPA war on coal and wood stoves and light bulbs, reign in the IRS, put America back to work.

Jan 08, 2014 9:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Paul_Jordan wrote:

I find it unbelievable that my region, southeast Michigan, was not one of the targeted areas. It should be a scandal!

For decades we have been the most economically and racially segregated part of America–and our cities show it. We have the largest American city to declare bankruptcy (Detroit) and many cities and school districts that operate or have recently operated) under state appointed dictators (Flint, Detroit, Detroit Public Schools, Pontiac, Highland Park, and Ecorse).

The main reasons for this is the state’s abandonment of our cities and their poor and black people (severe reduction of state revenue sharing funds), the deindustrialization of our cities due to changes in federal trade policy (NAFTA, etc.), and our lack of an expense-limiting national health care system (leading to extreme increases in retiree health care obligations).

My city–Flint–represents the future of America, and if you are fortunate enough to live in a prosperous place then we should haunt your dreams, for we were you a few decades ago. If America does not solve the problem represented by the circumstances of Flint and its people, it is quite possible that you may be where we are in a few years.

Think about it.

Jan 08, 2014 9:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
Trichiurus wrote:

“…increase economic security…”: This means guaranteed income or unbridled handouts. There are no work programs, just handouts. There is no accountability, just freebies for the asking and unquestioned qualifications. In actuality, this is a war on the middle class who pays for most of the government’s spending. Charity is great. Helping others appropriate. But stop creating a welfare state. We have generations of families that have been on welfare, given educational brakes, job preference, etc. The results? They want more and Obama and his henchmen want to give them more—to buy votes; to make this a one party system of Democrats. Socialism works so well in the UK, the liberals in the USA want it too. It’s all about the basics: personal power and greed at any cost.

Jan 08, 2014 9:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
tony4 wrote:

Reasonable 2 comments “bravo”. Bravo for what…more words? Have you not learned that Obama is all talk? “Shovel-ready-jobs”, we’ve defeated Al-Queada, You can keep your health plan, you can keep your doctor….the list goes on and on. Even the supreme liar, Hillary Clinton, had Obama pegged right…”words, just words” “the skies will open up, the angels will sing”. After 5 years he’s “targeting poverty” …take a look at where his targets are…pretty carefully and politically selected. He will through more of our money at it, and it will go away…just like everything else he does for a political “moment”.

Jan 08, 2014 9:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

5 years into obama’s presidency the jobless rate for minority males in urban areas is higher than right before the riots in the late 60′s. this man has zero credibility.

Jan 08, 2014 9:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

“A formal announcement is planned for 2 p.m. EST on Thursday.”

Change the subject, make a speech, ho hum.

Jan 08, 2014 10:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Jzhou wrote:

if you are looking closely of all these cities he is visiting or targeting on poverty, increasing homeless, unemployment, poor HS school graduation, you are going to find out one thing in common – they are all control by Democratic elected mayors over decades… it is Democratic’s socialism ideology ruin these cities… just like UAW and Democratic mayors send city Detroit, and Harrisburg (PA) to Bankruptcy, those cities Democratic Mayors will do same to their cities…

Jan 08, 2014 10:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
mstan4408 wrote:

Blame Game anyone?..So where was the GOP plan? where was the InD plan? Where was the Libertarian plan? ..Each community, each state whether in the US or another country is responsible for their people. The responsibility crosses party lines. The responsibility is also with a State. If the state legislators and the community councils don’t do their job..it’s on the voters in the US.

complaints belong with those business’s that have taken advantage of lax rules and regulations to stiff the people in states (tax incentives) and communities (pollute & leave). Also, those that were handed outright Tax Credits to move their business’s outside the borders of the US…which they still have.

Currently, Transportation to get to a job and/or to get an education…is lacking. Ya think walking in the cold for a mile or more to work or heat for a mile or more to work is easy?

Add Student loan cost to even getting an education..and the bars to a better paying job…just keep getting raised.

Jan 08, 2014 10:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
22T wrote:

It’s kind of strange to spend between $60-100 million of taxpayer money for a 2 week Hawaii vaction, ….then come back fresh, and say he’s going to tackle poverty….

Jan 08, 2014 10:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
Randy549 wrote:

“Johnson’s pledge led to programs like Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, and Head Start preschool education programs.”

The Reuters author might be surprised to learn that social security was launched under the Roosevelt administration in the 1930′s.

Jan 08, 2014 11:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
Mylena wrote:

The only way to eliminate poverty is: creating new jobs, a good program of birth control system. A while the system is giving away more and more, people is more intersted on get a job under the table, and in the other hand get wellfare, food stamps and every program around. It is not fair for citizens that worked hard their whole life and right now are getting miserables social securities . Poverty calls poverty: always.

Jan 08, 2014 11:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
PopUp wrote:

Someone should tell the President that most US workers are suffering including the unemployed, poor, and low paid middle class workers. Wages have stagnated for thirty years or more since the Raygun revolution that attacked workers. I think Obama is a closet Republican

Jan 08, 2014 12:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PopUp wrote:

Someone should tell the President that most US workers are suffering including the unemployed, poor, and low paid middle class workers. Wages have stagnated for thirty years or more since the Raygun revolution that attacked workers. I think Obama is a closet Republican

Jan 08, 2014 12:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NEWAGER wrote:

The way you break out of the cycle of poverty is called hard work. We have been fighting a war on poverty since LBJ and now we have the highest number of people ever on food stamps. Our government rewards those who are lazy and not responsible. The more babies you have out of wedlock, the more assistance you get. That needs to stop. Secure the borders. If we didn’t give out so much in welfare, Americans would be glad to take the jobs they say only illegals will take now.

Jan 08, 2014 12:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
marysrusso wrote:

Until the US TAX Code is reviewed and rationalized to a published and publicized Priority List and ALLOCATION of US Fed-controlled money is totally transparent and not at the behest of PACs and other Corporate-linked Lobbyists, this will function as Fed-enforced charity for those who should have a choice (e.g. the middle class – those whose net earnings are $18,000-100,000). Also Poverty in Philli looks different than it does in San Antonio where money goes further. If Obama so wants a legacy that he chooses to solve “poverty”, then cities with the same demographics of “need”, like Chicago, Philli and Milwaukee, whic could serve as test cases with a roll-out to other areas if the plan works.

Jan 08, 2014 12:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
betrayed wrote:

More tax payer money for Obama and his gang of thugs to steal. Tax payer builds housing and the lazy poor rip out the plumbing and sell the metal for drug money. Tax payer gives them money for food they spend it on drugs, tax payer gives them a free education are they are to stoned or drunk to learn. But the women voter is oblivious to reality and voted the crook in. Good Luck comrade.

Jan 08, 2014 12:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LiarWatch wrote:

Business as usual…where does this end? The trajectory remains unchanged. Really? “he will target job creation, housing, law enforcement and education in the poorest U.S. communities, part of his pledge to narrow the gap between rich and poor in America.”

Jan 08, 2014 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
LiarWatch wrote:

Business as usual…where does this end? The trajectory remains unchanged. Really? “he will target job creation, housing, law enforcement and education in the poorest U.S. communities, part of his pledge to narrow the gap between rich and poor in America.”

Jan 08, 2014 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
herbxerx wrote:

NEWAGER wrote: “If we didn’t give out so much in welfare, Americans would be glad to take the jobs they say only illegals will take now.”

Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that American’s will be glad to pick tomatoes for below minimum wage. The argument that poor people are living fat off their precious food stamps and welfare becomes tiresome. Sure some people are lazy and worthless, but this is not the same as uneducated and this is not the sole reason for government assistance.

The cycle of poverty can probably be ended–but it will not happen. The elite love a desperate, uneducated, totally-dependant working class. Keep arguing amongst yourselves about who loves America more, Democrats or Republicans. Neither party loves you. You are a cog in their machine. Obama sucks as do 99% of presidents, presidential candidates, and public office-holders in general. Romney’s America would look no different.

Jan 08, 2014 1:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gcf1965 wrote:

I agree with newager, ending poverty must start at the individual level. The problem with American poverty is that most of the poor (not all) choose to be poor. Oh, not as in I am going to give up my winning lottery ticket, but in that they are unwilling to put in the effort to do what it takes to not be poor. This involves not only staying in school but working hard at it. It involves not having 3 or 4 kids before you are 20 years old. It involves looking for and taking advantage of, and yes even making opportunities for improving your life. It involves choosing to have money to get to a job (car, bus fare, subway fare, etc.) over having a new tv or iphone. Poor is far more often a choice than most will admit.

Jan 08, 2014 1:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gcf1965 wrote:

This is just another affirmative action endeavor to ensure that a certain demographic is given jobs and preferential treatment for other government handouts, even when un- or underqualified for such. After obama is unqualified for his job, so he is going to make sure he “pays it forward”. The old saying of you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink can be reworked to say you can give most poor every opportunity, but you can’t make them work.

Jan 08, 2014 1:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gcf1965 wrote:

herbxerx – “Sure some people are lazy and worthless, but this is not the same as uneducated” – In this nation of free education, if you are uneducated, you are likely lazy and worthless. Yeah, a few old timers are still around who had to leave school and go to work at a very young age, but they are few and far between.

Jan 08, 2014 1:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
hawkeye19 wrote:

Democratic voter “zones” populated by losers, slackers, and criminals.

Why is Obama so free with other peoples’ money? Socialist thief.

Jan 08, 2014 1:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
diluded0000 wrote:

Giving tax credits to companies that relocate and hire local employees isn’t quite welfare and food stamps, now is it? The system we have now redistributes my wealth upwards. This tax credit doesn’t sound any worse.

Jan 08, 2014 2:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Crash866 wrote:

The King of Social Justice strikes again!!

Jan 08, 2014 2:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Crash866 wrote:

mstan4408
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not the government redistribution of wealth through taxes in the name of Social Justice.

Jan 08, 2014 2:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
4825 wrote:

Liberals should be absolutely ashamed of growing poverty with their policies and politics. When you give a handout instead of a hand up, you perpetuate poverty from generation to generation. That is the grand plan they don’t want you to know about. In addition, liberals should be ashamed of using poverty to attempt to buy political votes and favor. If liberals truly cared about poverty they would put their hands deep in their own pocket (not someone else’s pocket), to fight poverty. Once they do that I might believe that their motivation is what they claim it is.

Jan 08, 2014 2:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
herbxerx wrote:

gcf1965 wrote: “In this nation of free education, if you are uneducated, you are likely lazy and worthless.”

I agree with you to an extent, as well as with your statements regarding personal responsibility, however there are other factors at work. Our free public schools are grossly underfunded and staffed with underpaid teachers who frankly don’t give much of a hoot. Add to this the stigma that a formal education has in many cultures in this society, and often times when an individual reaches a responsible age, so many bad desisions have been made by or for this person that those bootstraps can be very difficult to find.

Jan 08, 2014 2:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BlueOkie wrote:

Obama has caused poverty increases. Taxing the job creators. Paying for non-work, housing, cell phones, food stamps, the list goes on and on. Instead of transferring money we don’t why not transfer work to those in poverty. Extending unemployment benefits ain’t going to solve any problems. It’ll mean we just have to borrow more from China.

Jan 08, 2014 2:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Crash866 wrote:

diluded0000
“The system we have now redistributes my wealth upwards.” So the poor pay taxes that go to the rich? Please explain.

Jan 08, 2014 3:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
herbxerx wrote:

Crash866 wrote: “So the poor pay taxes that go to the rich? Please explain.”

One example: Many tax dollars (yes even ones paid by the poor), fund the pentagon and the military. Who do you think owns the weapons manufacturers and high-tech companies receiving these contracts? Tax dollars –> Rich people’s pockets.

Jan 08, 2014 3:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Efforts to “create jobs, improve schools, beef up public safety, and create better housing” are precisely why this nation has lost the “War on Poverty”. A war is impossible to win when the actual enemy remains untouched. The real causes of poverty are poor life decisions, plain and simple. At the root of institutionalized poverty are the single parent family and substance abuse. Many children are reared in households with little discipline and no role model. Children have children and the cycle repeats from generation to generation. Substance abuse robs the family of precious resources, ambition and the power that comes from lucid decision making. Communities of the impoverished, in spirit as well as in money, foster a culture of dependence, victimhood, resentment that fuels irresponsibility, crime and substance abuse.

Against this backdrop is it any wonder that government efforts fail to correct poverty? Government cannot create jobs, employers do; and who employs the unable? Certainly there is room for improvement in education, but the teachers must themselves be educated and the students must show up ready to perform. Sadly, the learned do not connect culturally and their message is never heard, while the few students who do aspire are tormented by their peers unmercifully. What is the role of the Federal government in this context? Safety and security depend upon the cooperation of the community,whose citizens all too often see law enforcement as the enemy- that thin blue line has all but disappeared in some communities. We have see that housing, no matter how many amenities it may have, becomes trash in short order in the hands of those whom it was simply given. For generations we have seen that herculean efforts to “create jobs, improve schools, beef up public safety, and create better housing” have failed, yet the political class continues to promote them. Why?

Because to address the core issues would require a mind set that has become culturally normal at the bottom and continues to creep up to the middle: dependence. To the degree that people are dependent upon the political class that class has power, real power. Under the guise of “helping the poor”, the government creates and funds programs that benefit guess who? Others of the political class and their cronies! The poor remain so from generation to generation living on handouts that have become part of their culture.

So go ahead, Mr. President. Make your speeches. Pander to your constituents. Everyone knows what you are doing (wink, wink- nod, nod). You are no different from any of your predecessors, and your successors will be the same as you. It’s part of the design of the system. At some point the house of cards will topple, but you will be long gone, as will I. But we can weep now for our children and grandchildren.

Jan 08, 2014 5:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PKFA wrote:

Efforts to “create jobs, improve schools, beef up public safety, and create better housing” are precisely why this nation has lost the “War on Poverty”. A war is impossible to win when the actual enemy remains untouched. The real causes of poverty are poor life decisions, plain and simple. At the root of institutionalized poverty are the single parent family and substance abuse. Many children are reared in households with little discipline and no role model. Children have children and the cycle repeats from generation to generation. Substance abuse robs the family of precious resources, ambition and the power that comes from lucid decision making. Communities of the impoverished, in spirit as well as in money, foster a culture of dependence, victimhood, resentment that fuels irresponsibility, crime and substance abuse.

Against this backdrop is it any wonder that government efforts fail to correct poverty? Government cannot create jobs, employers do; and who employs the unable? Certainly there is room for improvement in education, but the teachers must themselves be educated and the students must show up ready to perform. Sadly, the learned do not connect culturally and their message is never heard, while the few students who do aspire are tormented by their peers unmercifully. What is the role of the Federal government in this context? Safety and security depend upon the cooperation of the community,whose citizens all too often see law enforcement as the enemy- that thin blue line has all but disappeared in some communities. We have see that housing, no matter how many amenities it may have, becomes trash in short order in the hands of those whom it was simply given. For generations we have seen that herculean efforts to “create jobs, improve schools, beef up public safety, and create better housing” have failed, yet the political class continues to promote them. Why?

Because to address the core issues would require a mind set that has become culturally normal at the bottom and continues to creep up to the middle: dependence. To the degree that people are dependent upon the political class that class has power, real power. Under the guise of “helping the poor”, the government creates and funds programs that benefit guess who? Others of the political class and their cronies! The poor remain so from generation to generation living on handouts that have become part of their culture.

So go ahead, Mr. President. Make your speeches. Pander to your constituents. Everyone knows what you are doing (wink, wink- nod, nod). You are no different from any of your predecessors, and your successors will be the same as you. It’s part of the design of the system. At some point the house of cards will topple, but you will be long gone, as will I. But we can weep now for our children and grandchildren.

Jan 08, 2014 5:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
diluded0000 wrote:

Crash866, the poor work at Walmart and my taxes provide assistance to keep them fed and healthy so they can make money for the billionaires of the Walton family. The working poor vastly outnumber the non-working poor, so excepting the non-working poor, my wealth is getting redistributed to the people who employ the working poor on public assistance. Personally, I don’t think a ten-dollar minimum wage is enough.

Jan 08, 2014 5:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NEWAGER wrote:

Great post, PFKA. It was spot on.

Jan 08, 2014 5:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Greenspan2 wrote:

50 millions Americans living in poverty. Over 13 million children growing up in poverty in the good ‘ole USA. So Reagan’s trickle down and Bush’s supporters of the Haves as opposed to the Have Nots have only enriched the 10 and 1 %ers. Once a nation sells out to corporate fascism, usually blessed by a religious contingent, it never ends well. But don’t expect the ordinary American to care or give a damn. Time to go shopping, wave a flag, and be a good, deserving “Christian”.

Jan 08, 2014 7:29pm EST  --  Report as abuse
diluded0000 wrote:

PFKA, by your own reasoning you aren’t a billionaire because of your poor life choices. Think long and hard about why you aren’t a billionaire, and how it is entirely your own fault.

And to most of the rest of you, where did you see anything about a handout or furthering a culture of dependency in this proposal? I see proposals to stimulate the private sector to create jobs. Other than the fact that Obama is suggesting it, why is doing something to put people to work, without raising my taxes, such a bad thing?

Jan 08, 2014 8:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Greenspan2
do you think it is better to give handouts or give people opportunity? It’s amazing how you want to gather support or I guess add credibility to your statements by blaming Bush and Reagan. Remember, corporations do provide jobs for others. Governments can only do this by raising revenue “from those who make money – i.e. work”. Also, so many drop these statistics of the number of children growing up in poverty. Please provide the definition for Poverty. Do you really know? Also, many of these individuals choose this lifestyle. Why not, there are ‘pat yourself on the back’ democrats who will support them. If you or any other democrats are omniscient enough to determine those who “deserve” to be helped, I would support some of the social initiatives.

Jan 09, 2014 6:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
jdocop wrote:

This is another war we cannot win, especially if the GOP continues to block and otherwise obstruct every effort made for improvement.

Jan 09, 2014 9:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
SaveRMiddle wrote:

Five long years of this smooth talker who twice a year proclaims he is gravely concerned about income inequality yet as we sleep, he works on “free” trade agreements which permanently erase living wage jobs.

The Multinationals own this DINO politician.

Jan 09, 2014 10:08am EST  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

the demo’s think everything the propose will improve the situation and thus the GOP are seen as obstructionist. how idiotic of a concept. the demo’s must think they are omniscient and are the only ones with such ability

Jan 12, 2014 9:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
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