'Time is on our side', says EU in showdown over Ukraine

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Tiu wrote:

The “way of life” Van Rompuy refers to is loosing its luster, and is on its way to complete ruin, thanks to the Van Rompuy’s of the world, and his behind the curtains friends who have screwed democracy.

Feb 05, 2014 7:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
Tyshkevich wrote:

Van Rompuy, Ashton, Kerry, McCain – these people try very hard to portray the conflict in Ukraine as a struggle for Europe. This either speaks volumes of their ignorance or shows their deliberate efforts to frame the conflict in such a way due to a broader geo-political agenda. Here is an eye-opener: the majority of people in Ukraine are protesting against the thieving regime of President Yanukovich. The EU association debacle, and specifically the police response to the pro-EU protests, was just a trigger. Political demands of the people on the street have long since moved on to real issues: re-election of the parliament and the president, and a constitutional reform. To be more precise, people want to chase the Oligarchs out of power. This has absolutely nothing to do with the nonsense about “attractiveness of Europe” diligently pushed by the Western media. As a matter of fact, all Ukrainian Oligarchs live and play in Europe using it as a safe haven for their ill-gotten gains from bloody capital formation of the 90’s. So if Europe had to “offer rule of law, democratic accountability, civil liberties” it could have done so a long time ago by prosecuting the very people who define the thieving regime of Yanukovich.
The fact of the matter is that Europe has absolutely nothing to offer safe demagoguery, menial jobs and trade on conditions that would suffocate most of Ukraine’s remaining industry and agriculture.

Feb 05, 2014 10:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
Danram wrote:

Time won’t be on the EU’s side if Vladimir Putin decides to drop his nice guy routine after the Sochi Olympics are done in two weeks and send his tanks and paratroopers into Ukraine. I sincerely hope that the west realizes that this is a serious possibility and is preparing counter-measures if Russia starts massing forces along the Ukrainain border. These would include immediate expulsion from the G8, a total lockdown on all capital flows into Russia, the freezing of assets now held by Putin and his cronies in western banks, and a full-blown trade embargo.

In addition, the west should be preparing to confront Russia militarily as well. If Barack Obama were to move a couple of US aircraft carrier battle groups into the Black Sea, it would most certainly give Putin pause. Also, if we haven’t already done so, we should be putting US, British, and German special ops teams on the ground in Ukraine so that they can act as “force multipliers”, helping the Ukrainian military find, fix and destroy Russian armor should Putin decide to send his tanks across the border to crush the Euromaidan movement.

The uncomfortable but undeniable fact is this: Vladimir Putin is “old school” KGB from his head to his toes. The only thing he understands and respects is strength. There’s no possibility of “constructive engagement” with the likes of Putin. Even Barack Obama should, by now, have realized the utter futility of his attempt at a “reset in relations” with Russia as long as Putin and his “siloviki” are calling the shots in Moscow.

And to those who will predictably cry “Ukraine isn’t our problem!”, just remember this: If we allow Putin to grab Ukraine by force, he will have reconstituted the bulk of the former Soviet Union and we will be looking at another “Cold War”. I think it is in our interests to prevent that.

Feb 05, 2014 2:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dron wrote:

“Time is on our side” not its not Mr Van Rompuy, the figures don’t lie and they show the sorry state of your failed EU project. Debt, unemployment, massive immigration. Not to mention countries like UK and Hungary already half way out of the EU. So no time is not on your side, I doubt there would be much left of the EU in 15 years.

Feb 05, 2014 2:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

What this article doesn’t address and the European leaders shamefully turn their backs to is a heroic struggle of Ukrainian people that refuse to be drawn back under the rule of an autocratic Putin’s regime that is represented in Ukraine by his puppet Yanukovich. This is a truly historic moment (but just a moment) that may once and for all tilt the world’s balance of power towards totalitarian regimes like Russia and China.
I am not sure if time is on EU side now, because after the Sochi games there will be a huge and bloody government crackdown in Kiev and elsewhere in Ukraine. Time is running out!!!

Feb 05, 2014 5:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Tyshkevich wrote:

Based on some comments here, one would have to believe that for many people splitting Ukraine in two is just another great way to “score” against Putin. What a travesty. Protests in Ukraine are not about the choice between Russia and Europe. It is about destroying the half-criminal Oligarchic system that subjugated the Ukrainian society. By the way, Europe did absolutely nothing to depower the very people who created the Yanukovich’s regime. They live comfortably in Europe, not in Russia.
By misrepresenting what is going on Kiev as a West-vs.-East struggle, Western politicians, media and commentators are simply increasing the degree of polarization in Ukraine, which might actually lead to civil war. Unfortunately, we already see signs of it in the air.

Feb 05, 2014 5:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
caaps02 wrote:

I agree with Danram and Tyshkevich.

I am not sure what exactly Putin is going to pull in Ukraine after Sochi, but it will be ugly.

And yes, a few phone calls from a couple of key EU capitals (e.g. London and Vienna) to Firtash and Akhmetov could have resolved this situation handily. BUt the EU prefers the dirty money.

Feb 05, 2014 6:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
caaps02 wrote:

I agree with Danram and Tyshkevich.

I am not sure what exactly Putin is going to pull in Ukraine after Sochi, but it will be ugly.

And yes, a few phone calls from a couple of key EU capitals (e.g. London and Vienna) to Firtash and Akhmetov could have resolved this situation handily. BUt the EU prefers the dirty money.

Feb 05, 2014 6:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Vitex wrote:

Money from the Yanukovich regime – in American + European politics
http://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2014/02/5/7012902/

Feb 05, 2014 10:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
zocho wrote:

Europe union does not offer to Ukraine, a free visa agreement (Nicaraguan citizens do not need a visa to enter EU), an EU candidate status or financial aid so Ukraine can transform and make its industry competitive(tiny 700 million dollars aid].EU could help to Ukraine like they helped Poland after the fall of communism( Foreign Creditors agreed to forgive about half the $33 billion that Poland owed them).Eu does not care about Ukraine.Eu hates Russia, wants Ukraine economy to stay at the level is now and to provide loans to Ukraine and use Ukrainian market to sell their product to Ukrainian people.And sure in time Ukraine will be more indebted and ever in the bigger economic crisis.
EU helped and allowed Romania or Bulgaria(the poorest and most corrupted countries to become EU members so EU should do the same with Ukraine.

Feb 06, 2014 3:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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