Iran 'forever' comments on nuclear program seen as sop to hardliners

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kenradke12 wrote:

Iran can fire all the missiles it wants. It won’t change the fact that they still need to co-operate on the nuclear issue at hand!

Feb 11, 2014 7:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

Do you REALLY think he takes “Lurch” or Oliar seriously? Look at the grin on his face!

Feb 11, 2014 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

Do you REALLY think he takes “Lurch” or Oliar seriously? Look at the grin on his face!

Feb 11, 2014 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

Do you REALLY think he takes “Lurch” or Oliar seriously? Look at the grin on his face!

Feb 11, 2014 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

Do you REALLY think he takes “Lurch” or Oliar seriously? Look at the grin on his face!

Feb 11, 2014 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

Do you REALLY think he takes “Lurch” or Oliar seriously? Look at the grin on his face!

Feb 11, 2014 10:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
TruthFair wrote:

Short ( 3-4 days) bombardment put to the end islamofacist- terrorists mullah’s nuke ambitions ‘forever’……. None any diplomatic games necessary.

Feb 11, 2014 10:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
CrowdsGather wrote:

Why don’t you see it for what it REALLY is?! It’s part of the Iranian disinformation campaign. This guy is playing Obama just like he did past presidents.

Feb 11, 2014 11:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

I think the Iranians are a perfect example of “hide in plain site”. They will have the bomb in a few months and they did it while we all watched and wished for a different outcome…

Feb 11, 2014 11:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

again, the world shakes, the Iranians proceed, in plain site…Kerry and Obama , think they have a deal with an honest broker…wake up

Feb 11, 2014 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

again, the world shakes, the Iranians proceed, in plain site…Kerry and Obama , think they have a deal with an honest broker…wake up

Feb 11, 2014 11:53am EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

someone has to wake the world up…or the Iranians will have nukes in a very short period…who wants that to happen??????????

Feb 11, 2014 12:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nigelcairns wrote:

our politicians and the commentators above all sound like childish hooligans

Feb 11, 2014 12:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
riposte wrote:

they are fooling the world, with their comment SOP..they are marching along,towards nukes,as planned

Feb 11, 2014 1:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dhirajkunar wrote:

First of all the oil sucking western thugs (America, and countries of western europe) need to be booted out of the ME. This ONLY will ensure peace in the region. The west is blamed for creating Shia Sunni divide so that they will fight against each other and the thugs will rob oil on the sly. All this will stop and Iran will lead the efforts to kick out the western thugs, without any war. Its just a matter of time.

Feb 11, 2014 1:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

Dhirajkunar you can’t be serious. Muslims have been at each others throats for what seems like forever due primarily to their religious zealotry. The US and other countries are playing their hands but it will by no means deter what seems to be an innate hatred differing Muslim sects seem to have for one another.

Feb 11, 2014 1:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
xcanada2 wrote:

Of course Iran is entirely right to remain very suspicious of American promises. It is completely clear to the whole world that the aim of US capitalist rulers is world hegemony. (A fall-back position is cold war and military buildup on the backs of the 99%.) That means picking off the weaker remaining independent countries, working up to the biggest: Libya, Syria, Iran, most of Africa,…

Luckily for Iran, and Iraq, they have the ready waiting arms of China-Russia-India to fall in to, if their relationship with the West should fail. Of course, Iranians really do love American peoples’ ideals, but our stupid rulers could destroy our potential good relations with Iran.

Until Americans sufficiently wise up to the failure of their laissez faire capitalist dominated, undemocratic system, we can be sure that these world tensions will endure. Fortunately, the American people have tired of war, and grown tired, sick of, and saturated with the terror propaganda used to manipulate them, and this is putting a crimp on our war-mongers. Mostly, our leaders and media, sycophants of the capitalist rulers, are losing their credibility.

Feb 11, 2014 2:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
KyleDexter wrote:

Iran, dont believe a word the US or Europe says on anything. Remember how the British literally raped you with the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company. Do you remember the US ‘democratic’ counter-revolution, where the CIA re-instated the Shah!!!

Press ahead with your nuclear program. Its your best bet at keeping America’s mad dog Isreal in check!

Feb 11, 2014 3:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

It’s a mistake to discount the “Persian” mindset. Where other countries might import technological or industrial expertise, Iran is developing its own expertise – at an increasing pace.

As time goes on, Iran is becoming ‘most’ expert at a new version and scale of “siege warfare.” Essentially, the “Western powers” are engaged in a potentially deadly game of Chess, with Iran. It’s certain that Iran is quite adept at anticipating “Western” moves. Iran is also obviously expert at the political/economic game of Poker.

It wouldn’t take much for Iran to single-handedly and successfully promote ‘bitcoin’ as a means of international commerce – or some other equivalent. If Iran needs to build secret commerce/military tunnels under its borders; it will happen.

Here is the single rule of warfare which “history” refuses to learn:

“In politics – and its extended military counterpart – if the mindset of a nation cannot be won – or destroyed – peace is an impossibility.”

Compare the outcomes in W.W. II Germany and Japan (even the Korean War); as opposed to the Viet Nam War, the current Afghan War and the Iraq War. It’s that simple. Except for the proverbial Military-Industrial Complex, the Viet Nam War would have been the last “military adventure” for the U.S.; but oh, for the sacred and incredible profits!

The classic (elementary) model for warfare was formulated in the 19th Century by Carl Von Clausewitz – illustrating the “war” relationship between the three key elements of a country’s ‘government,’ ‘military’ and ‘populous;’ the “Clausewitzian Trinity.”

The Afghan War” and the “Iraq War” currently serve the notion that a country’s government and military can be easily defeated; with the “will of the populace” little changed – save for an indefinite want for revenge.

Israel, interestingly, demonstrates the potential for the ‘merger’ of the government, military and populace – to obvious dynamic effect. Ironically, Iran essentially has the same potential for a ‘merger;’ should Iran be forced into a war.

In the 21st Century, the “Clausewitzian Trinity” is often discounted as being uselessly outdated and simplistic. However, the legacy of the Von Clausewitz “Trinity” is in the illustration that pertinent identifiable ‘elements’ operate with an observable and “predictable” inter-relationship. For example, addition of the elements of “industry,” “technology” and “economics” easily expand the Von Clausewitz ‘model,’ without abandoning the core 1830s idea.

The outcome of the War Crime excursions of the Afghan & Iraq invasions and occupations were predictable from the outset. What was ‘mysteriously’ lost was the predictability of the (highly predictable) economic gains – which SHOULD have been obvious; just from the legacy of the Viet Nam war.

Iran clearly understands history, observing that the USA is broke; ala the Afghan defeat of the Russian “Soviet Union.” In concert, Iran has noted the impending impotence of Israel, absent a “blank check” from DC. Thus, Iran is preparing for either war or peace; in terms of economics versus missiles.

Iran has one major advantage over the “West;” Iran is well prepared for either glory – or martyrdom. The “West,” in contrast, is only willing to entertain glory or peace.

History leaves a major lesson in the W.W. II history of the end days of Japan. The Japanese were bound for martyrdom (particularly evidenced by the Kamikaze attacks) – until the Atomic bombs destroyed the will of the populace.

History is far more famous for “evolving;” versus “repeating.” Thus, we now see the Iran-Western “evolution.”

Whether in terms of Chess or Poker, a lot of bets are being placed. Iran has one tie-breaker available – getting a significant number of permanent “Western” boots on Iranian ground; serving as “human shields.” Thus, Netanyahu is left to sell a terrible idea – soon.

Feb 11, 2014 5:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ChangeIranNow wrote:

Sanctions against Iran should be relaxed only after the machinery and materials necessary to develop a nuclear weapon are destroyed or moved out of the country. In addition, this must be strictly monitored. However, given the sacrifices Iran was willing to make for its nuclear program during the past three decades, it is extremely difficult if not impossible to envision Iran surrendering its nuclear ambitions.

Feb 11, 2014 9:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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