Jury in Florida loud music murder trial stuck on murder charge

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louiseone1 wrote:

And people expect justice in the “cracker” state? Are you kidding me?

Feb 15, 2014 11:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
mikeyz63 wrote:

If he’d have been charged with 2nd degree murder he’d have already been convicted.

Feb 15, 2014 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BobbyGvegas wrote:

He fired TEN Shots, almost all of them into that vehicle, 3 into the back of it. Look of the photos. TEN shots. That’s not “self-defense.” That’s at least 2nd degree murder and a attempted murder.

Feb 15, 2014 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Roger1322 wrote:

Loud Bastards – they’re so pleasant. INNOCENT!

Feb 15, 2014 12:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
elhamb3166 wrote:

It seems as if Dunn is going to be found not guilty of first degree murder. Hard to believe that it is considered OK to kill someone over loud music (no evidence ever presented that proved the victim had a weapon)

Remember, Dunn was so upset after his claimed brush with death that he went and had a pizza.

Feb 15, 2014 12:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse


Feb 15, 2014 12:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse

It is time for Mister Dunn to face the music…I hear the opening chords of the 50′s-60′s TV series, “Dragnet”….Dunn, Dunn Dunn Dunn!!

Feb 15, 2014 12:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
zflynn3 wrote:

The world is watching but not to see any pretended “interpretation” of the phony “stand you ground” law but rather whether it is used as a justification, once again, for whites to kill blacks with whom they were picking a fight.

Marissa Alexander, a battered wife who fired a warning shot to stop her abusive husband who admitted he was going to assault her (the shot injured no one), is serving 30 years. Her crime? Being black it seems.

Feb 15, 2014 12:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlexisKlatt wrote:

Temporary insanity, perhaps?

Feb 15, 2014 12:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlexisKlatt wrote:

Temporary insanity, perhaps?

Feb 15, 2014 12:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse

From what I know of this incident, Dunn had to go back to his car, load his gun and only then did he fire into the other car killing Davis and he left the scene afterwards instead of staying to wait for police. There is not way this guy can be found innocent, I could see maybe 2nd-degree murder, but not innocent.

Feb 15, 2014 12:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Niglescat wrote:

“(no evidence ever presented
that proved the victim had a weapon)” You have got it backwards. They have to prove there was no gun.
Apparently, the victims drove away. Therefore, they could have ditched the weapon (emphasis is on could). If they left the seen, then doubt is introduced.

Feb 15, 2014 12:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

This is Florida. The jury will acquit the killer.

In Florida a white guy with a concealed weapon gets to kill unarmed black teenagers that annoy him, and walk away. It’s the law. Why even bother to put on show trials and try to pretend that “Florida justice” isn’t an oxymoron.

Feb 15, 2014 12:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Zimmerman, Casey Anthony, now this. Are all Floridians braindead losers?

Feb 15, 2014 12:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Robert76 wrote:

Like Zimmerman, this situation could have been avoided if the “shooter” had simply departed instead of opening fire because he did not like something. All this guy had to do was to finish filling his car, and then departing. Heck, there are white kids who also blast their music for all to hear. Would it then be OK for a Black man to kill a white kid because he did not like the loud music. I am guessing NOT!

Feb 15, 2014 1:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
oneStarman wrote:

We need to build a WALL around Florida to protect the rest of the country from the Murderous Inhuman Monsters that live there.

Feb 15, 2014 1:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I grew up in south Miami in the 1960s-70s and directly witnessed the rotten stench of bigotry with segregated towns, restaurants, drinking fountains and bathrooms. 40 years later my folks currently live in Orlando and although things have changed some, the stench of racism still pervades the south.. Only in the deep south is this kind of race circus possible. “Hell no, we ain’t forgettin” is still on every bigots fetid breath.

If Martin had been latino, and Zimmerman had been African American the Stanford police would have made an immediate arrest, and the Florida courts would have put him away without fanfare.

Bigots, racists, Nazis, KKK, skinheads, white nationalists, aryan terror groups, see race as part of this equation,making comments like who cares if he killed a black kid in a hoody. He was a thug just judging by appearance.

Bottom line: Zimmerman racially profiled a youth, stalked, confronted and intimidated him into defending himself, then lost control of the situation and blasted the 17 year old victim in the chest and let him bleed out on the ground. To an open mind unclouded by racism and bigotry it is clearly murder. Think about it. If this exact confrontation was in a different context and had happened in a store parking lot between 2 white guys. the adult that killed the 17 year old kid goes directly to JAIL. Now Zimmy embolden by getting away with murder points guns at anyone who he doesn’t like! How long before Zimmerman murders again? What this animal up and throw away the key! Racists and bigots please reply below so we can easily identify you.

Feb 15, 2014 1:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
caligrrl wrote:

Lessons to be learned from this: #1, Stay way away from Florida. #2, Florida’s legal system seems to be struggling with racism similarly to Hemphill, TX. #3, Racism is alive and well in AmeriKKKa.

Feb 15, 2014 1:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Speaker2 wrote:

The best solution is to outlaw carrying weapons in public. You should not get killed for loud music or testing in the theater.

The public deserves to be safe from gun nuts. All you need is a hot head, pull the weapon and fire, no way to go back, dead is dead.

Feb 15, 2014 1:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Lkeavey wrote:

Reverse it. Black man fires 9 shots at white kids playing loud music.. Florida jury would take 10 minutes to come to a guilty verdict.

Feb 15, 2014 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Lkeavey wrote:

Reverse it. Black man fires 9 shots at white kids playing loud music.. Florida jury would take 10 minutes to come to a guilty verdict.

Feb 15, 2014 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Lkeavey wrote:

Reverse it. Black man fires 9 shots at white kids playing loud music.. Florida jury would take 10 minutes to come to a guilty verdict.

Feb 15, 2014 1:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
caligrrl wrote:

There is no way this jerk should get away with this. If they don’t lock him up for at least ten years, preferably life, we should never feel safe.

Feb 15, 2014 2:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Florida has a gun violence problem and racial overtones in these cases cannot be denied….it’s not good for the tourism industry…or the retirement industry…and there’s the explosion in the Burmese python population in the Sunshine state….and the hurricanes….it takes real intestinal fortitude to live down there…think I’ll pass on that one.

Feb 15, 2014 2:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mikeyz63 wrote:

If the charge was 2nd degree murder instead of first the jury would have deliberated 15 minutes and convicted him, IMO.

Feb 15, 2014 3:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Kita123 wrote:

He will be aquitted and once again another black mother and father will have to go home and wonder why their child is not coming home ever again. And that in this so called land of the free the man who killed him can walk free to kill again. I wanted so much to beleive this time it would be different but I was wrong. No white man or woman will ever be convited of killing a young black man in the state of flordia no matter if there witnesses or not. This time three people saw what occurred and still he walks free. If I had a oung black man in that state, I would move.

Feb 15, 2014 3:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

I hear ear phones, to listen to music, are selling like crazy…is that a result of this event???????

Feb 15, 2014 5:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
yoyobrain wrote:

No body got shot because of loud music ! Please read the court transcripts and evidence submitted.
Every bodies comments, Well I guess loud music is just for shooting someone. Come on guys.
Guilty or Not Guilty, Its a matter of deadly force if someone steps out of there car & threatening you ! Is this guy a idiot, of course. But don’t open your mouth’s to push your agenda because you read the title and think you know everything.

Feb 15, 2014 5:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Zimmerman, Casey Anthony, and now this. Just how braindead are Floridians?

Feb 15, 2014 5:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PCL1 wrote:

I don’t see why first degree murder is part of the charges; he didn’t have a lot of time to plan it out. If they have the option of second degree murder (and if they don’t, the DA probably has some serious questions to answer), they should probably convict him and be done with it.

Feb 15, 2014 5:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

anyone who sees this case as similar to Zimmerman is probably racist. these are two entirely different situations. Yes both cases could have been avoided, but in the Zimmerman case he was performing a neighborhood watch and encountered a situation that got an individual shot. this case has nothing similar. it appears this guy is guilty from what I have read, and probably initiated the encounter. but the racist individuals want to pile on stuff to prove their case of mistreatment of minorities or their case of special treatment for minorities. there are racists on both sides of the line.

Feb 15, 2014 6:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wootwang wrote:

what a stupid headline. poses questions? about what/? This doesnt pose questions about jack other than why some of my fellow floridians are this stupid. It poses questions about the state of human tolerance. Florida is one step from a major race war.

Feb 15, 2014 6:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

“Michael Dunn, 47, a white software engineer, fired 10 rounds at an SUV carrying four teens in a Jacksonville gas station parking lot in November 2012, killing 17-year-old black teen Jordan Davis.”

Here it is again. Racial bias from Reuters. Last week I commented in another story about Reuters burying the facts of a black man killing a white man or a black man. The race never came up at all. When it is white on black crime, Reuters is sure to put that in either the headline or the first two paragraphs. It never fails.


Feb 15, 2014 7:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
adrian88 wrote:

@Turf12 – the defense isn’t arguing “stand your ground”. Sheeesh, try understanding the facts of the case before you comment. Either way, I doubt your subsidized bus-pass would get you to Florida anyway.

Feb 15, 2014 7:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Niglescat wrote:

I am disappointed that the moderator of this forum failed to a prove my previous post that was informative as well as respectful.

Feb 15, 2014 8:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ChrisU wrote:

If society is lucky prison will do what the jury couldn’t.

Feb 15, 2014 9:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The guy is certainly guilty of felony stupidity – before, during and after the crime.

Whatever the facts, the American justice system is routinely demonstrated to be as screwed up as a soup sandwich. Often enough, it’s the judges who are most worthy of condemnation.

No one seems to think anything of the U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder – being currently in contempt of Congress – routinely (constructively) altering federal law as fast as Obama.

Whatever the case, this gunslinger is going to prison for a long time, one way or another. To an intelligent and reasonable mind, the details really don’t matter. BUT, at every opportunity, the “race/minority card” is being played-up by the news media – big time – to the best of their ability. Why?

If the shooter was hollering racial epithets during the shooting; he’s on his own. So far, I haven’t seen anything published to that effect. So, what’s really going on?

It’s amazing that no one wants to look closely at the American “discrimination” matter for the dilemma that it represents.


1. At least since the beginning of the 21st Century, all people ARE equal – period, end of sentence – with no possible problem (save for undeniable reverse-discrimination laws & court rulings).


2. The legal “minorities” are factually inferior – thus, requiring protective legislation; making them “vicariously equal” – ONLY.

Thus, when a ‘minority’ whines today; are they being totally absurd – or engaging in nothing short of factually pertinent self-loathing?

At least in theory; it can’t be “both.”

However many dollars in profits the “minority card” might be worth to the news media outlets, they are spoon-feeding a nasty critter. Worse, those blindly/obediently responding to the commonly arbitrary “minority cause” act as a force-multiplier.

As economic statistics go, there is at least the opportunity to present truly significant dollar figures for the “minority industry.”

It would be ever so wonderful if the “American society” could make up its mind.

Feb 15, 2014 9:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
naoma wrote:

What is the problem with this case? He shot and killed the young man and yet was not charged on that count. But, he will do some nice time in jail for the other charge.

Feb 16, 2014 10:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
naoma wrote:

What is the problem with this case? He shot and killed the young man and yet was not charged on that count. But, he will do some nice time in jail for the other charge.

Feb 16, 2014 10:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
caligrrl wrote:

In response to Skydrifter, you know that the problem isn’t solely the media, it’s the mindset of the “majority” in Florida. Which –wait for it– is “racist”! So, you are the one whining.

Feb 18, 2014 8:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
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