Ugandan president signs anti-gay bill, defying the West

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Dron wrote:

This article shows us something more important. It shows once again how powerless and weak Obama is, that even African leaders that depend on US aid still laugh in Obama’s face.

Feb 24, 2014 2:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
peniel wrote:

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni sign the bill gay is evil,If republic of India where evil exist can criminalize gay that means is evil. we the black people has never be shown any good thing than evil from the west, why can’t they show us how to travel to space or max they only introduce us to be sleeping with each order. America is now Wedding dogs they will soon ask us to join them in getting married to dogs. Shame on them Nigeria has criminalize gay, so is so many order black country. We are older than white people we are been fool by them don’t be afraid. Sign it SIR let us kill those who want to brought back SODOM TO EARTH.

Feb 24, 2014 4:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
Petabiko wrote:

ALONE AND FRIGHTENED – Being Gay in Uganda
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Since that bill was passed, the police has been acting on any anonymous tips to arrest anyone suspected to be gay.

All that someone has to do is walk into there nearest police station and tell them so and so is gay and they will promptly arrest the suspect weather the allegations are true or false. The media will be called in immediately – down the drain your life goes.

Among the clauses in that law – ‘Anyone who does not report a gay person is liable to over 5years in jail’ – what does that mean? People will simply act on speculation
hence a possibility of arresting and imprisoning innocent people and people like me cannot open up to a doctor because there will be no patient – doctor confidentiality anymore.

Also, among the proposals is to deny bail to SUSPECTED gay people. (One thing am sure about is that this will affect even the many homophobes and can also be used for black mail. a person simply says so and so is gay and they will be put away as the good police does its investigations……that can take as long as the person accusing u deems fit.)

My Life:
I am 27years old now and a graduate.
Since i was a little boy i have always felt comfortable around boys being the 3rd child in a family of 5 boys and 2 girls. growing up in a very poor neighborhood.

I have grown up to this age with no girl (cissy) like tendencies throughout my life and no one (my family and friends) think am gay.

I have fought so hard to suppress these feelings all my life for fear of being dis-owned by my family and friends and worse still ending up in jail, but the fact is i cannot pretend all my life – so they will know.

As a teenager, i tried dating girls but this never worked out, all my girlfriends some how realized that our relationships were simply cosmetic/unreal (i never really gave them full attention since i enjoyed hanging out mostly with fellow boys and didn’t spend quality time with them. I have not had a stable girlfriend all my life to date but now at this age, am expected to have a girl friend if not married but am still single and not really searching for a marriage partner.

I grew up a God fearing boy but always had this thing for boys and had secret crushes on fellow boys throughout but could never bring my self to tell them how i felt. i thought i would outgrow these abnormal feelings but seems like as i grew older the feelings became stronger.

I have gone to church, especially pentecostal (born again) churches prayed and fasted hoping that someday i will wake up when am straight and normal like everyone else but this just never happens.
I cannot confess my sexuality to the pastors for fear of being the topic in their next Sunday morning summon.

In this country, gay people are seen as insane, worse than cockroaches, stupid and any other demeaning reference one can come up with all because people like me are not attracted to the opposite sex like everyone else.

But, where do i go for help? -
Church – All religious leaders in the country are at the for-front and pushing so hard for the president to sign the bill into law despite all the in-humane clauses in that bill – the bill had suggested a death sentence for aggravated offenders. In other words gay people will bring Gods Judgement on the country (remember Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible) and don’t deserve to be among Gods holly people – Straight people or in God’s holly country Uganda hence we should be taken care of immediately.
But the in the Bible – New testament Jesus welcomed all sinners and those considered unclean/un-worthy by the people, he preached love and not hate, but our religious leaders (the holy ones – Pastor Ssempa, Pastor Serwadda Joseph preach hate, life imprisonment or death to gay people – people like me.
Hence, if i cannot find love and solace in the house of God, where do i run in this homophobic and conservative country?

I have thought about ending my life several times, after all, who cares?, even God
hates me so ending it all will take me straight to hell where i belong and this country would be one gay person less such that the holy ones (straight) remain.

Back to the question, where do i go for help? – since they believe am sick.
- Professional counseling – The new law if signed, demands that anyone who doesn’t report a gay person is liable to imprisonment for over 5 years. Going for professional help is like walking yourself to the police station with the smoking gun in your hands.

- Check into a Mental Hospital – There is a mental hospital called Butabika hospital specially built for the insane. Since majority of Ugandans think that people like me are insane – i really hope that my sexuality can be cured as well such that i come out straight like everyone else.

Jan 17th 2014 – One of the leading daily new papers report that the president was quoted saying that gay people are sick and need help. But where do we go for help? and we will not be looked at as dirt or vile?, who can i trust when everyone thinks i deserve to be killed on site or locked away for life?

If this bill is signed into law, i officially become an outcast with no place in a country that i love so much. i love this country so much i had never applied for a passport because i felt so much at home and also had not considered traveling out of this country in the near future unless an opportunity presented its self or my employer sent me.

I have chosen to live a single life because i don’t want to pretend am in love with a girl and yet i wake up everyday wishing she was dead or got involved in a nasty car accident. i feel true love should not be forced, why should i pretend or be forced to live with someone i don’t love and have no feelings for just because i have to be culturally correct and please my parents and the public?, why cant i be with someone i love as long as we are both adults?. I do not support people who involve themselves sexually with under age boys because they are still young and cannot decide for them selves, i feel this is wrong even if your straight or gay and as much as am gay, i don’t support gay marriage.

I ask my self, Why am i like this???? – why am i not like everyone else?, they say being gay is a western thing, that its a white mans thing, that came from Europe and America.
I have grown up and lived in Uganda all my life, i have never had any white male/female friends to influence me. How then did America or Europe make me into the person i am?

When am taken to court today, it will be the whole country including Jesus against me, i guess the only person on my side will be the devil.

The world has judged us and found guilty, there is not place for us. i hard some callers on radio on Sunday morning say that we deserve to be killed by firing squad, another caller said that they should use hammers (a few good strikes with a hammer on the head will be sufficient), i listen in quietly to peoples observations on radio, TV and at work its so frightening.

This means that people like me deserve no mercy whatsoever. Jesus didn’t die for people like me, we should be exterminated.
We are a minority, nothing that we say makes any sense to straight people, to them we deserve to die.

Gay people are just like any other person, and yet we have been portrayed to be monsters.
How do i tell you that am actually gay????????

I have decided to keep this to my self since the law empowers him to report me to police.

GOD BLESS YOU THE STRAIGHT PEOPLE, I WISH I WAS LIKE YOU

Feb 24, 2014 5:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
Dron wrote:

Agree with f00.
I am not following any religion, I am agnostic. Why is there a stereotype that anyone who is not ultra-liberal on the issue of LGBT must be a religious fundamentalist?

Feb 24, 2014 6:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
wrote:

Well Mr Man aka Dron, the same applies to your degenerated species I’m afraid.

Feb 24, 2014 8:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
wrote:

These are satanic vicious barbaric criminals and should be arrested, thrown in jail and forgotten. Also they are a big waste of public money and time.

As far as I’m concerned I would outlaw such nasty little “men” at an international level through means such as Nato and UN. No real civilization until this garbage is elegantly taken back to the right place it belongs to. So they may speak out for rats and rule out on dirt.

Feb 24, 2014 8:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

What Dron sarcastically describes in his first sentence is a foolish, even dangerous stereotype. But let’s be clear: both the legislative and increasingly violent anti-LGBT fires in Uganda have been powerfully stoked, with a great deal of money and missionary zeal, by the likes of Scott Lively and his particular brand of “Christianity.” If one can’t appreciate that fact, one simply is not informed.

Dron, you’re a bit of a puzzle to me. You say you agree with foo that homosexuality is a “disability,” yet your first reaction to this news (assuming you weren’t being sarcastic yourself) was not to condemn it but to advocate anti-gay laws in “every country of Europe.” I’m curious as to which other “disabilities” you would penalize, and if you consider 14 years sufficient for a first offense?

Feb 24, 2014 10:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

(Correction: the sarcastic stereotype I refer to above is not Dron’s, but f00′s, i.e. “Sure, sure, we’d have a wonderful LGBT-friendly globe if it weren’t for those evil white Christians.”)

Feb 24, 2014 10:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

Also, f00: I don’t understand how you can say that the world’s religions “rightly” characterize homosexuality as “deviant,” and then say in your very next sentence that you are “more generous.” If you are more generous than to agree with someone on a point, you by definition DON’T agree with that point. Which is it?

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
albertjazz wrote:

Its good to see that someone in authority is willing to vote against the ever increasing march of sodom in the world !

Feb 24, 2014 12:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ccsccs123 wrote:

It’s Obongo’s way or the highway again, don’t support his gay agenda he will leave you out in the cold without a moments notice!

Feb 24, 2014 12:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Mr. Harvey could have named this speech ” If I were a Liberal”

Here’s the transcript of Paul Harvey’s “If I were the Devil” speech that was broadcast on April 3, 1965:

If I were the Devil, I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree. So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States.
I’d submit the churches first. I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what’s bad is good, and what’s good is “square.” And the old I would teach to pray after me, “Our Father, which art in Washington…”
And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the Devil, I’d soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings, I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.
If I were the Devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions, just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.
Within the decade, I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography, soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, then from the houses of Congress.
And in His own Churches, I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money.
If I were the Devil, I’d make the symbol of Easter, an egg, and the symbol of Christmas, a bottle.
If I were the devil, I would take from those who have and I would give to those who want it until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.
And wouldn’t you bet I couldn’t get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich.
I would caution against extremes and hard work and patriotism and moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on TV is the way to be. And thus I could undress you in public and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure.
In other words, if I were the Devil, I’d just keep right on doing what he’s doing.
Paul Harvey, Good Day.

Feb 24, 2014 12:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse

This is finally some good news. Gays are mentally ill according to many psyciatrists. Also gays have a shorter life span do to their un Natural way of life. It is nice to see a president stand up for what is natural and not give in to pedaphiles and miscreants.

Feb 24, 2014 12:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Hellmut wrote:

Dron proves that hate causes stupidity or is it the other way around?

Feb 24, 2014 12:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
isochronous wrote:

Would someone here please explain to me exactly what kind of “menace” gay people present to the world? Gay people are not going to turn straight people gay too. That’s not how these things work. Gay people just want the same rights as anyone else – to be able to live, love, and be happy without having to fear persecution, violence, and now incarceration. My sister is a lesbian and is getting married to her wonderful girlfriend of many years this coming September, and the thought of her getting thrown in jail simply for expressing her love makes me sick to my stomach.

I also find it funny how the president “gave scientists a week” to come up with data that the scientific community at large has been looking for for literally decades. And by funny, I mean “sadly ironic.”

And ccsccs123, try to be a little more blatantly racist, one or two people might still think you’re a decent human being.

Feb 24, 2014 1:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
roncee wrote:

Take that Obama and like minded government figures. Your threats and pressure forced Museveni to sign the legislation or be seen as a puppet of yours.

Feb 24, 2014 1:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

“When President Museveni and I spoke last month, he gave his word that he would not let the anti-homosexuality bill become law in Uganda. I was therefore very disheartened to hear last week that President Museveni was reconsidering his position. … We must be entirely clear about this: the history of people is littered with attempts to legislate against love or marriage across class, caste, and race. But there is no scientific basis or genetic rationale for love. There is only the grace of God. There is no scientific justification for prejudice and discrimination, ever. And nor is there any moral justification. Nazi Germany and apartheid South Africa, among others, attest to these facts.” — Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Feb 24, 2014 2:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Trichiurus wrote:

Homosexuals are not vermin, but it is perverse behaviour. Being homosexual is a choice, not a right and not genetically determined. Race is genetically controlled and, therefore, not a choice. Sexual perversion takes many forms; this is just one of them. So why is homosexuality becoming so protected? Because the world is becoming more perverse and cannot tolerate the concept of boundaries to its naturally illicit behaviour.

Feb 24, 2014 3:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
3bladerunner wrote:

It’s so easy to discriminate when you’ve never been discriminated against. What ever happened to love thy neighbor?

Feb 24, 2014 3:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

Each of us has our own idea of what constitutes sexual perversion. For some, that includes any sex act (including masturbation) apart from vanilla penile-vaginal intercourse in the missionary position between two married adults. That’s somewhat prudish in my view, but I have no problem with it so long as they don’t attempt to lock people up for 14 years for doing something different, consensually, as adults, in the privacy of their bedrooms.

It’s disturbing how many commenters here are implicitly supporting laws that do what this law does. It’s as though they don’t even realize how easily it can and will be exploited by the powerful at the expense of the powerless. Or maybe they do, and are simply glad to be among the ranks of the former.

Feb 24, 2014 4:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
PaulBradley wrote:

I fail to see why anyone would want to ‘legislate’ individuals’ private and personal sexual choice made by consenting adults.
Soon, we will attempt to legislate sex between older people that can’t ‘procreate’ any more while having sex, labeling their activity as ‘illegal’.

Aren’t you familiar with – “That’s none of your BUSINESS”?

Read @ethanstraffin’s comment above. He is making a good point !!

Feb 24, 2014 4:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
phangakab wrote:

Well the west brought us the gospel, let’s just say we Africans embraced it a little more than expected….. In the bible homophobia is outlawed……. So we just follow the precepts of christs teaching…..

Like it or not it doesnot profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his own soul…. Would u accept aid and perish spiritually or endure and please God?

Feb 24, 2014 4:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DGCJ wrote:

f00 wrote that homosexuality is a disability.
These facts kind of dispel that notion:
1 homosexual males earn more money per capita than heterosexual males
2 homosexual males have more education per capita (lesbians, too)
3 homosexual males have higher cognitive functions, verbal skills and spatial memory
4 some of the greatest geniuses in the history of our planet were homosexual males (Leonardo da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Tchaikovsky, Alan Turing, the inventor of modern computer science)
Apparently it’s a disability a lot of people would like to have! And, I’m sure Hitler, Charles Manson, and Mussolini’s parents were so proud they had heterosexual sons….

Feb 24, 2014 5:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DGCJ wrote:

And once again to f00, where did you get the nonsense that Buddhism condemns homosexuality? They don’t mention it, and many Buddhist, Jewish, Christian, and even a few Muslim clergy marry gay couples. You are out of touch with reality.

Feb 24, 2014 5:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Of course religious people want to demonize GLBTI people. They are everywhere and always have been so they make an easy scapegoat for failed politicians.

Feb 24, 2014 7:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Ivstinian wrote:

day eat da poo poo

Feb 24, 2014 7:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse

In case any vestigial support for the Obama regime is still detectible, the lesson here is clear. It has little or nothing to do with punishing or pampering homosexuals, a trivial issue at best. Rather, this is a perfect example of the price one pays for projecting impotence instead of power. For the Ugandans to thumb their noses at Kerry and his boss this way is an object lesson: Every time you mouth off and fail to follow up, you weaken your position for the future. Weakness invites not only aggression, but contempt. Thanks, Barack, you pathetic loser.

Feb 24, 2014 8:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse

In case any vestigial support for the Obama regime is still detectible, the lesson here is clear. It has little or nothing to do with punishing or pampering homosexuals, a trivial issue at best. Rather, this is a perfect example of the price one pays for projecting impotence instead of power. For the Ugandans to thumb their noses at Kerry and his boss this way is an object lesson: Every time you mouth off and fail to follow up, you weaken your position for the future. Weakness invites not only aggression, but contempt. Thanks, Barack, you pathetic loser.

Feb 24, 2014 8:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gthog61 wrote:

How can they say no to the buttsex love train?

Feb 24, 2014 9:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ethanstraffin wrote:

Or the carpet-munching love train, right? I know, it’s scandalous, just scandalous that it’s taken them this long to start locking up the lesbians as well. (And considering Uganda’s record on women’s rights in general, maybe even a bit surprising, unless one has had a psychology course or two.)

Feb 25, 2014 2:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
kimowens wrote:

Our provision is from God not America or anywhere else……I had keenly waited to see what will happen with the Anti homo sexual bill…..Thanks President Museveni…. That’s awesome…. Let those who think that they God ordained to take care of us go where they want…..Who even died and made them God in Our lives…… Godly anger…coz the fear of God is to hate evil (Poverbs 8:13)…..but we do love the sinners though we hate the sin.

Feb 25, 2014 6:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
abrahmaniacs wrote:

AntiUnAmerican i don’t know if people like you, are uneducated, a troll or simply stupid. (or all)

Feb 25, 2014 12:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Realness wrote:

Well the comments never disappoint. The amount of ignorance is still at embarrassing levels, and we’ll just have to wait for people to be intelligent enough to understand the research and science on this. There is genetic and epigenetic factors in homosexuality that have nothing to do with individual choice. That’s objective fact. Homosexuality occurs naturally in thousands of species, objective fact. Until you mouth breathers are able to parse the science, we’ll need laws to protect the innocent from you sad people scared of what you don’t understand. This Ugandan law is a shame, along with any law that oppresses innocent people. There is no debate: you are simply a bigot or unable to understand the objective facts, and either way you hold humanity back with your ignorance. Thankfully the world is moving forward without you, and you’ll just be pathetic artifact of fear and ignorance as is always the case in human history and progress. Knowledge has always moved us forward to greater justice, and ignorance has always held us back.

Feb 25, 2014 3:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
itstoolatee wrote:

because being gay is not normal…. its just not, you cant make people with queers i know this wont get published but the media needs to stop accepting homosexuality as being “okay” or “normal”

Feb 26, 2014 2:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
RoedyGreen wrote:

Uganda has a new witchcraft law. Being gay is a thought crime. Anyone can easily be accused since thought crimes do not even need evidence. The USA and Canada should stop supporting Uganda’s experiment in religious superstition.

Feb 27, 2014 10:38am EST  --  Report as abuse
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