Russian markets plunge as Putin tightens Crimea grip

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GeorgeBrown wrote:

“You just don’t, in the 21st century, behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on a completely trumped-up pretext,” Kerry told the CBS program “Face the Nation”.

Now if only George W. Bush had said this in 2003 then that whole mess in Iraq could have been avoided. Selective morality, gotta love it!

Mar 02, 2014 7:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
m3z4q-xx wrote:

It is actually occurring in Ukraine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2FunKG-9Rk

Mar 02, 2014 8:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Mike-007 wrote:

Crimean peninsula belongs to Ukraine; it has a diverse ethnic population with ethnic Russian majority. Unfortunately for the population the peninsula is strategically important for Russia. So Russia tries to stir unrest there and use it as a pretext for the peninsula annexation. Putin says that he is just helping Russians in Ukraine, but what he really wants is to establish Russian control over the peninsula. He is coldblooded former KGB operative. Bad guy!

Mar 02, 2014 9:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
redboy wrote:

Quote:
“You just don’t, in the 21st century, behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on a completely trumped-up pretext,” Kerry told the CBS program “Face the Nation”.”

And what exactly did the US do in Iraq?

Mar 02, 2014 9:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
m_thomas wrote:

“In Russia, state-controlled media portray Yanukovich’s removal as a coup by dangerous extremists funded by the West and there has been little sign of dissent with that line.”

Answer: Because it happens to be the truth! These opinions are shared, by the way, by many in US who know Russian history and have worked in government, foreign service and intel agencies.

Reuters has cast this ongoing story irresponsibly and is culpable – along with AP, NY Times, WashPost – in creating whatever war fever there now is in this country and bears respons and the consequences of it.

Why is America defending thugs, neo-Nazis, brown-shirts and anarchists who staged a coup, and are equal to forces that took over Germany in 1933. Why are both conservatives and Liberals supporting the wrong side?

Answer: To force Ukraine away from Russia and into the hands of NATO. Insofar as solving the nation’s economic plight, EU has its hands full, America is broke, and IMF is more than happy to plunge the nation into neoliberal debt service and debt slavery.

Mar 02, 2014 10:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Everyone stands by and watches. US & UK governments abandon their signed agreements to provide for Ukraine’s security almost as fast as Russia did. Are they thinking, “it’s only one country?”. First Georgia, now Ukraine – that’s two. Who will be the third?

Mar 03, 2014 2:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
AVPx wrote:

As usual, Washington exemplifies double standards. Russia should voluntarily withdraw from G-8, and focus mainly on BRICS.

Disgusting how the so called American “allies”, only come out of the woodwork, when its anyone but America that moves militarily. Europe doesn’t deserve world say, until it stops being an American vassal.

Mar 03, 2014 4:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
baileykatts wrote:

I have never liked or trusted Putin. I don’t agree with what they are doing. However, after the US invading Iraq in 2001, our Government has no place opening their mouths.

Mar 03, 2014 4:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
prohaller wrote:

maybe putin and bush should be nominated for the nobel peace award!

Mar 03, 2014 4:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

Putin is making a grave mistake and it won’t go over lightly with the west.All countries have trade with each other so there is no excuse for people complaining about foreign interference.NATO needs to get their butts in there now! I knew all along Putin was going to pull one of these acts.Obama needs to get his ducks in order because The Americans will be forced to dig their heels into one of these wars…preferably Syria in my opinion.

Mar 03, 2014 5:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

Once again, Kerry’s mouth has handed Putin a victory. While Kerry may have forgotten the War Crime invasion and occupation of Iraq; Putin hasn’t. But, Putin is saving Kerry’s words for a later lunch date – Kerry won’t like the menu. Obama really needs to shut Kerry’s mouth.

With Russia supplying the EU countries with fuel, any Russian losses will be paid for by the EU. This is essentially a waiting game. With Ukraine totally dependent upon Russia for fuel; Putin is a cat playing with a defiant mouse – for now. Cold mice give up easily.

Putin’s goal is to “take” Ukraine without a Russian weapon being fired. That could just happen. It shouldn’t take long for Ukraine troops to regularly surrender to Putin’s “Gang” in exchange for food – and survival. Some may call it “kidnapping.” There is nothing that Ukraine can do to Putin, without first inflicting far greater harm on themselves.

Putin’s message to the Ukrainians is simple – “Just be nice.” In the background, Putin is citing an old expression: “Let them hate, so long as they fear.” As international conflicts go, this shouldn’t take all that long.

In the end, there may be far more hatred amongst Ukrainians, than for Putin. The Ukrainian surrender-monkeys will be hated by the impotent hold-outs. Still, Putin will be keeping a list of who is naughty; and who is nice – to Russia.

If Putin gets his way, Obama and the USA are going to look like REALLY total fools. Already, why does Netanyahu look to Obama for assistance – other than cash?

Mar 03, 2014 6:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
Cyclops1968 wrote:

“You don’t just, in the 21st century, behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on a completely trumped-up pretext,” Kerry told CBS program Face the Nation – - – what a hypocrite!! What was Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc…??

Mar 03, 2014 6:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
Tiu wrote:

Going to war in Afghanistan in response to 911 looks like a very “trumped-up pretext” to use Kerry’s own words, unless you are gullible enough to buy the Whitehouse white-wash on the event.
America has abdicated any claim to moral authority. It no longer can claim to even be a beacon for democracy.

Mar 03, 2014 6:45am EST  --  Report as abuse

“You don’t just, in the 21st century, behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on a completely trumped-up pretext,” Kerry told CBS program Face the Nation.

Oh brother…

Mar 03, 2014 7:03am EST  --  Report as abuse
Verg wrote:

Putin learned his diplomacy from W. I am shocked and in awe.

Mar 03, 2014 7:24am EST  --  Report as abuse

In case none of you noticed, it’s an entirely different administration and congress in the US since Iraq & Afghanistan started. I suppose you blame Russia’s youth for the crimes of Stalin?

Mar 03, 2014 7:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Kingsliy wrote:

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Mar 03, 2014 7:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

If war breaks out then get ready world because Putin is as bad as his counterpart Bashar Al Assad!Now we have two terrorists!

Mar 03, 2014 8:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

It’s up to the US and its allies to stop this madness or else it’ll end badly for all. Russia will never accept a government by neo nazis on its border. Just like the US will never accept a government of communists in Mexico or Canada.

Mar 03, 2014 9:14am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

It’s up to the US and its allies to stop this madness or else it’ll end badly for all. Russia will never accept a government by neo nazis on its border. Just like the US will never accept a government of communists in Mexico or Canada.

Mar 03, 2014 9:14am EST  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

The UN should send peacekeeping forces into Ukraine ASAP.

Mar 03, 2014 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
BilboB wrote:

“predominantly” no

The people of the region are 100% Ukrainian
A small percentage may have dual citizenship in Russia
A Majority (that is more than 50%) speak Russian as a first language.
Assuming we are not operating in an area where they claim “Russian race” laughable given the country then there is no Russian claim.

What there is is a good port on the Black Sea. So we all have to suffer a cold war because an aging Putin (sans shirt and with new younger girlfriend) wants to prove his virility. Childish

Mar 03, 2014 9:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
gowintec wrote:

“I repeat: This is a matter of defending our citizens and our compatriots, of defending the most important human right — the right to life,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a U.N. human rights meeting in Geneva, Switzerland.
How about instead of starting a war, you use that same thought to stop Syria’s bloodshed!!! These politicians are out of touch with the real world, all of them.

Mar 03, 2014 9:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

Putin = Hitler

Mar 03, 2014 9:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
pyanitsa wrote:

Victoria Nuland can lead the mediation group. If mediation fails and war starts, she should retire to a Trappist monastery.

Mar 03, 2014 9:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
DURO wrote:

Russia’s economy is loosing over 3 billions dollars per day, majority of Russians are living under poverty, there are hardly any job openings, main occupation in Russia is cybercrime today. Very few people, previously Soviet elite members, were able to grab state assets for almost nothing, and became oligarchs, enriched thru fraud in a very short time. These oligarchs are the only people behind Sochi construction and they practically pay tribute to state being allowed in exchange to continue their shady businesses. Majority of Russians would rather have the Soviet state back, at least they can get food on their tables is this happened.

Mar 03, 2014 10:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
fkz wrote:

This is Czechoslovakia 1938, history repeating a theme with different characters.

Mar 03, 2014 10:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
pyanitsa wrote:

US Markets Reel. The Dow fell almost 1 pct on opening. The Ukrainian navy has gone over to Russia. There’s not much left for the mob in Kiev to mobilize.

Mar 03, 2014 10:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Trichiurus wrote:

The Russian bear stirs, while Obama, NATO, and the rest shoots the bull.

Mar 03, 2014 10:09am EST  --  Report as abuse

Right now and over the last several hours at Lyubimovka village near Sevastopol at subdivision of tactic aviation there is a human shield – there are relatives and supporters of military pilots, journalists. About 1 hour and a half ago a truck with Russian automated machine operators appeared here. They came and asked what about the decision of aviators and when they are going to surrender to new government in Crimea. The aviator refused to agree for the offer of intruiders. The Russian troops crying we will give you a lesson disappeared. They promised to come back, but people are there.

Mar 03, 2014 10:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
Dehumanist wrote:

I thought the so called “citizens” in the Crimea were Ukranians, so who exactly is Putin defending here? Of course after the comments last week about protecting Russian Citizens you knew this was coming, the same set-up as Georgia with pro-Russian citizens claiming they need “protection” that Putin is more than willing to provide.

Sadly the west is not really looking for another fight on Europe’s doorstep and Putin knows it, this will eventually be swept under like Georgia.

Mar 03, 2014 10:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
alowl wrote:

We’ll leave the Crimea when you leave Gitmo.

Vlad

Mar 03, 2014 10:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
BraveNewWrld wrote:

Dehumanist, et. al.,
>same set-up as Georgia with pro-Russian citizens claiming they need “protection”

You seem to show complete and utter disregard towards the desires of people living in those areas. What is wrong about people’s right to self-determination? If 2 mln inhabitants of Crimea want to run their republic themselves, or join with Russia – that should be their free choice! Why should be they oppressed and coerced into staying in the Ukraine? Or, Ossetians into being part of Georgia if that is not what they want? WHY???
Or, is it only for Kosovo, or Iraqi Kurdistan, that this sort of freedom of choice can be afforded – that is, only when u. Sam has signed up to that?

Mar 03, 2014 10:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
SanPa wrote:

Oh well … at least it isn’t Netanyahu in the spotlight this time.

Mar 03, 2014 11:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

im sorry for the deathsof Ukrainians.. im sorry for the financial losses of all the peoples, allover the world…But this is caused entirely by PUTINISM…I hope the world, bands together, and totally screws PUTIN and any associated with him, in any way he can be screwed..He is an ambitious man, with no regard for his peoples..He is just like stalin…PUTINISM, is the new Stalinism and the Russian peoples, will be plunged backwards into 1950..PUTIN is no different from the sick MUllahs that lead Iran…Take back your country Russians, before he leads you to WW3, by his narcisstic ambitions.

Mar 03, 2014 11:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Anyone investing in Russia right now would have to be nuts. Sanctions will happen in one form or another, so this would be like investing in Iran 4 years ago. Or Sudan. Russia is the new bitcoin.

Mar 03, 2014 11:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
Gal_Sion wrote:

If you wonder how the Obama-Putin power play is related to Obama’s foreign policy in the Middle East you are invited to read my blog:

http://galsion.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/putin-and-obama-round-two/

Mar 03, 2014 11:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

The world was distracted by the Olympics while Putin was planning to invade Crimea. Maybe Netanyahu will attack Iran while Putin is playing in Ukraine ? Can’t these people ever get along ?

Mar 03, 2014 11:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

Putin, do you really want to hurt Russia’s economy with your old style clod hopping Communist KGB Stalin-esque behavior? All we have to do is shut the Bosporus and Sevastopol will become nothing. How would you like that? You are a foolish man to pull the trumped up “help the ethnic Russians” that you and your predecessors stocked there like stocking fish in a pond waiting to use them in your falsified trumped up reason to pull the act you are pulling now. Just who is pulling your chain? Your keepers in the Russian Mob? Probably. Russia has always been a crude country with people like you in charge.

Mar 03, 2014 12:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lkofenglish wrote:

ummm…”Russia has just paid a price” and not single shot was fired other than by them.

the Ruble is getting crushed.
I think “Czar Putin” needs to start making his intentions clear here….before events spin out of control in Russia itself.

Mar 03, 2014 12:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

Stalin killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians in 1932/33.

Putin will kill how many now?

Putin is just like Stalin and Hitler. Perhaps he is their re-incarnation. His ego is larger than Siberia, where he really belongs.

Mar 03, 2014 12:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

The reason for going through the UN is to call Russia’s bluff. They say they are only concerned about the safety of Russians in Ukraine. If that is true, they should be okay with letting the UN step in and stabilize the situation. If their true intent is to divide Ukraine, they’ll object and the world will see the truth. In that case Russia should be kicked out of the UN.

Mar 03, 2014 12:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wiseart wrote:

The surprising thing is how the whole world is pretending not to know what Putin is about while the invasion is already under way.

Mar 03, 2014 12:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pyanitsa wrote:

Best time to buy Gazprom shares.

Mar 03, 2014 12:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

Putin doesn’t understand the rules. We can send troops in to protect American interests and citizens in foreign countries such as Grenada, Panama, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Turkey, and 27 African countries in friendly or unfriendly places, but, he can not do this. He should be told the rules. Kerry should show him his medals. Show him your medals, Kerry !!

Mar 03, 2014 1:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ARJTurgot2 wrote:

Putin does not have to invade Ukraine to win here, and he probably isn’t going to, not all of it, or even most of it. He just has to hold on until the ‘government’ in Kiev begins to disintegrate. He has calculated all of this far more carefully than Obama or Kerry seem to comprehend, and he has already put it in practice once. This is a rerun of the Orange ‘Revolution’ of 2004, which ultimately brought Yanukovich to power.

None of the fundamentals in Ukraine have changed since then, except Yulia Tymoshenko has taken the money she stole during her time and headed to Germany. Eventually, the U.S. press will wake up to the fact that the loans and assistance the U.S. gave to Kiev was used to pay interest due on loans from, wait for it, Russia. That’s correct, the money we give to Kiev is going to go to Putin.

Somewhat after that there will be an election, due in May. The Party of Regions, Yanukovich’s party, will once again emerge as the largest party. Hopefully they will not re-elect Yanukovich, but he seems to have pissed off the oligarchs so is probably done. So this little episode is going to pay money to Russia it probably couldn’t otherwise get from a bankrupt Ukraine, and eventually a pro-Moscow government is going to take power.

Poland, Germany, Slovakia, those neighbors that don’t seem to be eager to act, they know all this. Cynical conspiracy theorists might notice that Yanukovich and the Party of Regions government fell just in time to avoid defaulting on their loans to Russia. That job will now go to the new pro-western government, which the west can either finance, or watch disintegrate is near time.

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haroldburbank wrote:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554

Mar 03, 2014 1:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“Russian Market Plummets as Developed World Decides to Buy its Babies Elsewhere.”

Mar 03, 2014 1:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

The world’s biggest oil and gas station in Russian Siberia sits next door to the world’s biggest automobile market and the world’s biggest industrial production facilities in China. China and four central Asian countries are military allies of Russia in the SCO, and China has the world’s biggest foreign currency reserves. The US and EU are more likely to collapse economically before Russia and China, and Russia’s wealthy ally has already agreed with Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Part of this is that Ukraine’s legally and democratically elected president was not impeached, tried, or removed from office in any proper legal proceeding. President Yanukovich legally requested aid from President Putin who has responded in a legal manner. The US and EU have been so eager for political aggression against Russia that they have ignored the illegal actions of Ukraine’s parliament with its refusal to follow legal procedures.

In addition, Ukraine would be better served by Putin’s offer to Yanukovich than by the EU’s demands for austerity because a rail link in 2013 joined China to Russia through Kazakhstan, and China can also send trains to buy and move Ukraine’s grain to feed China’s herds of livestock. China’s GDP rose 7.7% in 2013, four times the rate of the US, just as it did in 2012. As a consequence, Chinese consumers are buying more meat; the snow and ice that threatens US agriculture also harms China’s grain production; so China needs more grain to feed livestock and poultry. In addition, China’s purchases come with infrastracture projects to develop China’s trade partners economically for more trade in the future. This would let Ukraine repay Putin’s loans, develop business and industry, and improve economic prospects for Ukrainian citizens.

On the other hand, the EU’s austerity would lead to riots and civil unrest similar to that in Greece and other EU countries. Further, the EU remains on the brink of economic crises, and the US is in no better position with its massive debts and political gridlock. For legal and economic reasons, Russia’s actions are correct, and the actions of the US, EU, and Ukraine’s parliament are politically illegal and economically unsound.

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ARJTurgot2 wrote:

@pyansita

It is never safe to buy Gazprom shares, or if you do, to own too many.

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UScitizentoo wrote:

1 million reservists in the Ukraine means not only a worthless Rouble, but a LOT of dead Russians before this puppy is over. (Ras)Putin destroys his Russian economy invading a friend. What a colossal moron.

Mar 03, 2014 2:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnnBadeyan wrote:

It looks like again US are testing this new tactic of destabilisation of a target region without troops and weapons. Instead, a coordinated set of information, mob-ilising, and self destructing forces. I think that they don’t even have clear strategy of where and when. Any applicable case, far from US borders would perfectly serve. Othervise we would witness overthrow of gangster Mexican governments years ago

Mar 03, 2014 2:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
QuidProQuo wrote:

I can assure you that there will be many, many false statements, claims and accusations made throughout all of this. And I am just really hoping that the news sites don’t just throw these statements around without first fully verifying everything! I know how easy it is for western media to sensationalize everything, not vet stuff they hear from unreliable sources, and post really instigating headlines above their articles, but I’m asking ALL media outlets to use restraint and focus on truths and validated findings. No psy ops b.s. please. And please, report equally both sides of this issue. Ethical journalism requires objectivity and neutrality so the public is getting a fair accounting of things.

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ARJTurgot2 wrote:

@carl

You neglected to mention that two weeks ago Emperor O met with the Dalai Lama. Putin is no doubt whispering Tibet in Xi’s ear. Richard Holbrooke said Susan Rice was stupid. He was a screaming optimist.

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lensmanb wrote:

If only the President would order every available transport plane filled with the men and the machinery of war, on it’s way to German bases the US controls, then maybe Putin balks. At least our allies and those small pain in the neck countries would see that maybe, just maybe Barack has some balls.

Mar 03, 2014 3:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gowintec wrote:

Interesting : Eurasianism calls upon politicians of the twenty-first century to draw what is useful from both fascism and Stalinism. Dugin’s major work, The Foundations of Geopolitics, published in 1997, follows closely the ideas of Carl Schmitt, the leading Nazi political theorist. Eurasianism is not only the ideological source of the Eurasian Union, it is also the creed of a number of people in the Putin administration, and the moving force of a rather active far-right Russian youth movement. For years Dugin has openly supported the division and colonization of Ukraine.

Mar 03, 2014 3:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lace wrote:

I have leaved in the USA for over 25 years, I am proud to be an American citizen and I believe this a great nation, but I think that the great USA and the rest of the world have failed to see that Putin is, a 21th century Hitler. He has taking whatever he wants when he wants it. I think the rest of the world and the USA is blind to the fact that Putin only understand power and brute force because he is a bully. He is testing the rest of the world to see how far he can go and he is going to continue to do so, until we with our allies show the same strength and power. We are also forgetting that the USA and UK along with others have made a promise and gave our word to the Country of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people that if they walk away from their nuclear program which I must say they could use it right now to protect themselves, we along with our allies would protect them. So what is our word value now to rest of the world when we go around trying to promote world peace and security? No one will ever believe us again when after we make that promise and such bully (Putin) goes around invading other countries lying and deceiving us in the process. I’m sorry I am not a very political person but I have to call as I see it. What is to stop him to move on to other neighboring countries?

Mar 03, 2014 3:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gowintec wrote:

Article from Forbes Nov 11/2011…In order for a Eurasian Union to really matter, it will need to expand its membership to include countries with more economic clout, but this won’t necessarily require bringing the old gang back together. Russia most likely won’t face membership competition from the EU along its southern borders, meaning that the battleground states will be in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea region.

The EU has already recognized this, creating the Eastern Partnership in 2009 in an effort to reach out to Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine – all former members of the Soviet Union.

Mar 03, 2014 3:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

@ARJTurgot2

Susan Rice was one of the idiots responsible for the illegal Libyan debacle. Instead of a No Fly Zone, the US and NATO became the Libyan Rebel Air Force and reduced Libya’s oil exports, most of which went to the West, by 90%. It’s up to 16% now. Nations with mechanized economies and militaries should not attack their own oil supplies.

Mar 03, 2014 3:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Hope Snowden is proud of his adopted country. Maybe he will decide to join the Russian Army and make the Russian Motherland proud of it’s newest son. I’m sure Snowden condones this display Russian democracy and has Putin and Maduro at the top of his Christmas card mailing list.

Mar 03, 2014 3:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
crod526 wrote:

Who was the US president when Russia attacked Georgia and the US did nothing? It wasn’t Obama and it wasn’t a Democrat.

Mar 03, 2014 3:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Defeated by Pussy Riot and brown-water Olympics, Putin tightens grip on mighty Ukraine :)

Mar 03, 2014 3:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Spartans wrote:

I wish someone intervened when nationalists took power in the Baltics. Instead now they celebrate their contribution to SAS and former fighters on the Hitler side get to march thru centre of Riga and lay flowers to the monument. Russians (30 percent of population) are denied the right to educate their kids in their native language and waitresses get food thrown at them for speaking Russian. This is what people of Crimea do not want to happen and seek protection from. Good luck to them! And no Crimea is not Ukranian, it was handed over god knows why.

Mar 03, 2014 3:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Rosermax wrote:

Life story:
America paid people who create “maidan” revolution in the Ukraine – it’s OK.
But Russia protects people’s lives from “maidan” revolutionaries and skinheads paid from america – Putin bad guy.

Mar 03, 2014 3:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

It Putin decides to take the Crimea he will do so. Who’s gonna stop him?

On second thought he has already taken it without firing a shot.

Putin’s probably sitting back in some retreat somewhere smoking a bong and watching old Stalone videos!

Mar 03, 2014 3:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Rosermax wrote:

No WAR

Mar 03, 2014 4:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Rosermax wrote:

I hope in the end Ukraine will be in save place from outside influence.

Mar 03, 2014 4:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Big2Tex wrote:

Bwahahahahaahahahaha, hohhhohohohoh hehehehehehe the world is in turmoil and Obama is to blame. The left is going bonkers trying to defend the most worthless, weakest, ignorant, narcissistic, childlike president ever. by the time a new administration takes over in 2017, the world’s borders will be completely re-drawn. Eastern Europe will once again be under the control of Russia, the South Pacific will be totally controlled by China, the Muslim Brotherhood will control the Middle East, South Asia, and North Africa, and Israel will likely not exist as we know it. Obama has lost all respect and power that was once the great US of A. Great job Obama voters, you have successfully destroyed all semblance of social order in the world and enslaved billions of people to tyranny and oppression.

Mar 03, 2014 4:13pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

CNN showed a map of Ukraine. I was surprised that no major Western country shared border with Ukraine. No US, no GB, no France, not even Germany near by. But next to Ukraine was Russia sharing a long border.

After looking at that map I can now see why Russia will never accept a government of unelected neonazis across its border.

Mar 03, 2014 4:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jrpardinas wrote:

Makets will plunge…for a while.

Then it’s back to making a buck.

The provinces of East Eukraine will add considerable helft to Russia’s industrial base.

Mar 03, 2014 4:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The worst is yet to come. A few more days of this rapidly deteriorating situation in Ukraine and Crimea, and as it appears increasingly likely that this could with a few shots and bombs end in the type of situation that led to the First World War this time between nuclear-armed Russia and its allies — yes it has allies — against nuclear Nato led by the USA, markets worldwide creep to the verge of major collapse in anticipation of the worst.
Unfortunately, history shows it’s just human nature at work.

Mar 03, 2014 4:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

BigCoTex, you sound like Jane Fonda. Maybe you could go help the Russians in their Crimean conflict :)

Mar 03, 2014 4:18pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Harry079 wrote:

Duro wrote:

“Russia’s economy is loosing over 3 billions dollars per day, majority of Russians are living under poverty, there are hardly any job openings”

Just last Friday the US Treasury had to borrow $37 billion to cover its bills.

For 2014 so far the National Debt has increased over $700 billion with the debt limit suspended until March 15. So in just in just 5 months and 3 days the US Treasury has barrowed about $720 billion. That well over $100 billion a month.

Mar 03, 2014 4:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bugzy wrote:

Ukraine can dream on……the west can’t afford to go to war with Russia, China, N.Korea, Iran. No western parliament will approve military action. The new mob government in Ukraine can go kiss Putin’s back side and say sorry. That’s the solution but Obama is too blind to see that.
Ukraine’s faith and stability lies with Russia. The west is a bankrupt Ponzi scheme looking for more countries to sell crap to. I hope the E.U didn’t sell Ukraine war insurance! Ask Madoff and he will tell you that the U.S and U.K is a giant Ponzi scheme.

Mar 03, 2014 4:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
VSNFR60 wrote:

Colin Kaepernick is the only one not blaming Obama ! Packers 2015 !

Mar 03, 2014 4:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bobi1 wrote:

In a long term, natural resources should count more than stock speculations, bonds and electronic/paper money plunging, etc… shouldn’t they? Markets fluctuate! If one seals two countries: one with resources, the other only with money! – Who manages better in a long term? There must be other way to deal with the situation. Military response is not an option either, unless we are all suicidal, which we are not… forget stock market and military (One is a temporary the other is an impossible solution/s), how about small deals that hurt: refuse visas for the elite and ordinary Russians, do not allow them to buy properties outside of Russia, limit cultural exchange, get Hollywood to re-start the cold-war type of film propaganda, portraying them as (f…), prevent Russian scientist form coming to the west and/or working – they are mostly stealing info anyway…etc…etc… after all, all in this life is deals, invent shrewd deals with them, while making sure they loose at the end, say sorry and move on to the next one…

Mar 03, 2014 4:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Anna_Poltava wrote:

Dear friends. I am from Ukraine. You must understand that it is occupation. Putin is a new Hitler. It is fact. But I believe, no, I Know that we’ll be a winner. Because we have the strong hearts and we love our mother – UKRAINE.

Mar 03, 2014 5:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnLaN wrote:

The headline should read “Markets Plunge on Below Average Volume”

Mar 03, 2014 5:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fkz wrote:

The pretext for invasion is the same as used by Germany to annex Czechoslovakia in 1938. A weak West unprepared to deal with real military threats opens the door for a much greater evil. Same guarantees were given to Czechoslovakia by the US and Britain with the same result. Good bye free Ukraine.

Mar 03, 2014 5:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Big2Tex wrote:

Alkaline State wrote
BigCoTex, you sound like Jane Fonda. Maybe you could go help the Russians in their Crimean conflict :)

How stupid are you? I am not supportive of Russia nor the other communist state, Obama’s America. I am just pointing out the irony of the left wanting all of this communism and marxism and now, by golly, they are getting it in spades. Support the puppet Pinocchio president and watch the world crumble. The crumbling has just begun as the weakness and ignorance of Obama are exposed to all.

Mar 03, 2014 5:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MrBlue wrote:

Wow, if the news is not confusing enough. The deepening Crisis in the Ukraine is all that news medias are playing…..well that and the Oscar winners. The news says Russia has thousands of troops and the situation is becoming dire for all of Ukraine. Really? I disagree on both sides. Russians were “not” being slaughtered giving cause for Russia to send troops. While the media is making it sound like a huge invasion the numbers they are giving is that 6,000 unmarked troops are now in control of the area. Many individual states in the U.S. can round up more soldiers than that. Next they are saying that literally no one is shooting. In fact, I’ve seen pictures posted of soldiers from both sides talking and eating together in some cases. Yes, Russia should not be in Crimea, but until the shooting starts can we really say they are invading when their own military base is located there? By listening to the United States you would think that Russia was taking over all of Europe and headed to Florida with a huge Navy! The United States alone has 10 active carriers and battle groups while Russia has 1!!!!! I know everyone is scared because Russia has nuclear weapons and a large army. I get it! Have you forgotten that if pushed too far that Russia would have to face the United States and all of NATO and they truly are a war making machine. Look it up! I come from a military family and I personally would not want to be in Russia’s shoes at all! I understand Russia has interests in the area and are letting everyone know it, but in the end all sides must make peace. This peace can come now or when many people have died and the Ukrainians will no longer want Russia there at all. Pray for all leaders on both sides to compromise and pray for peace.

Mar 03, 2014 5:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
phillip1 wrote:

It just seems that the more things change the more they stay the same.
The “Great Game” the “Cold war” everything old is new again.
It also seems that the alpabet soup people didnt get the memo. Who would of thought that alphabet soup could be hazardous to your health

Mar 03, 2014 5:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

“Why have the Russians invaded the Ukraine?”

“They were invited.”

[1 year later...]

“Why are the Russians still here?”

“They are looking for who invited them.”

Mar 03, 2014 6:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

I read somewhere. The Western media did not tell us this:

“However, in the Ukrainian protest center, western Ukraine’s Lviv, the mayor assisted demonstrators to take control of the local police station and distribute arms to create a citizen militia to replace the police.”

So would it be fair for mayors in eastern Ukraine to do the same against the self appointed neofascist leaders?

Mar 03, 2014 6:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Bobi1 wrote:

Dear Editors, why my recent comment about the resources was not approved??

Mar 03, 2014 6:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lkofenglish wrote:

this is in the “heart of Europe” as well as “Kiev Rus” (the Mother of Russia.)

This could turn REAL ugly…REAL fast.
And…no Dimitri…”the US wasn’t behind it.”
You can blame anyone you want when this things explodes but “Russia has moms too.”

Pull back the troops.
Your “Games” have already cost hundreds of billions….and we’re only in week one.

Mar 03, 2014 6:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

@BigCoTex, you think Russia is spending 15 billion dollars on the Ukraine to bring ‘communism’ there? On the lower right corner of your Windows screen, you will find today’s date. You will also find that the four digit number in that date is not 1952. Let us guess…. that’s Obama’s fault too :)

Mar 03, 2014 7:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

Those who are attacking Obama are crooks. The Empire tried to do in Georgia what it has done in Ukraine and Putin’s response was exactly the same as now and back then George Bush(or to be exact Dick Cheney) was the President not Obama.

American presidents, Republicans or Democrats, are powerless. The deep shadow government is the one in charge.

Presidents are just those pretty faces that are put in front of the American people to fool them. They make no decisions. They EXECUTE decisions made by the shadow government.

You can tell by looking at Obama that he has no clue as to what’s just happened in Ukraine.

And now “advisers” are coming to him and ordering him: Mr. President you MUST go in front of the cameras, look mean and tough and warn Putin of “costs”. He knows it’s all puff and bluff but he has no choice execute the order.

The Empire’s world domination agenda must be abandoned or the world will face a catastrophy worst than WWII. If not a complete extinction.

Mar 03, 2014 7:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Lowell_Thinks wrote:

“GeorgeBrown wrote:
Now if only George W. Bush had said this in 2003 then that whole mess in Iraq could have been avoided. Selective morality, gotta love it!”

Georgie Boy!, it’s not 2003, it’s 2014! You are living in the past. No matter how much you want to blame Bush, your Messiah is is still a feckless ineffective leader, choke it down.

Mar 03, 2014 7:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JohnRedneck wrote:

Russians will tell you words of the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWc7ZDaTo3k&feature=player_detailpage

Mar 03, 2014 7:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jvanegmond wrote:

Russians live in Canada. Will Russia invade?
Russians live in Quebec. Will Russia invade?
Russians live in the US. Will Russia invade?
Not since Hitler’s super race, has a leader so blatantly been a xenophobe? Probably there are others.
Perhaps it is time to find a new collaboration tool. Markets, the UN, war, all do not seem to work.

Mar 03, 2014 7:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Big2Tex wrote:

Ooooooooooo Alkaline and Fromkin paint a pretty dire picture even if it is outlandish fiction. Blaming bush for the loss of Georgia is a great diversion from the weakness, the ineptness, the ignorance, the outright awful stench that is Barrack Hussein Obama. total dominance of the Ukraine is coming. There will be many more states fall while the little puppet remains in office. And for sure, if Hillary should be elected, all is lost.

Mar 03, 2014 7:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

@Big2tex

What’s your problem? Is Ukraine part of the Union?

Your deep hatred of Obama has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s rooted in past American history.

As far as Putin, he is doing exactly what he’s supposed to do. The US would have responded in the same way if it was facing the same situation across its border.

Your pseudo suggests you’re from Texas. If a fascist government seizes power in Mexico and start threatening Texans, I can bet the people of Texas will demand US intervention.

Foreign policy is about defending a country’s interests abroad. Russia, a superpower, a Ukraine’s neighbor, has more interests to defend in Ukraine than the US. You can bet it will defend them regardless.

Mar 03, 2014 8:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nickir wrote:

If the backward part of the Ukraine wants to join another backward country why not just let it?

Mar 03, 2014 8:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Big2Tex wrote:

Fromkin – wrong on all counts. Ukraine is not threat to Russia. Russia was not provoked into invading, they simply chose to retake what they think is theirs based upon history. If Mexico should elect a fascist government, we in Texas could really care less until they come across the border. And for sure, we in Texas will take care of ourselves just as we did 179 years ago.
do you think we have any interest in Ukraine at all? Think now, even though that is quite difficult for you.

Mar 03, 2014 9:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Cleveland2012 wrote:

Samantha Power advocated the invasion of Libya which resulted in destabilizing the north of Africa, and Mali in particular. It also resulted in a bloodbath in Libya. Libya is still a wreck. A US Ambassador and several others died there because the place is chaotic. That she has the gall to say anything to Russia is appalling. How about at least finding someone with a clean record to tell Putin he is invading a country and breaking international law? Her hypocrisy is glaring, and so why is she still in a prominent position?

Mar 03, 2014 9:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Eric.B wrote:

US lesson #1: supporting forced transfer of power in Ukraine 10 days ago, as a result there are legal doubts about what is right and what is wrong with two presidents of Ukraine claiming their rights, and this is exploited by Russia now.

US lesson #2: track record of unilateral acts on foreign soil with devastating effects for the locals and sometimes change of country boarders, such as Kosovo separation from Yugoslavia which is now viewed as a legal example by Russia.

US lesson #3: continued cold-war style of military expansion of NATO around Russia for the past 25 years after the cold war was over, which is now viewed by Russia as the pre-WWII style of encirclement for the next steps on Russian soil.

All we do is to tell Russia is that Communism was just a word, we fooled them, and the real reason for the cold war, which never really ended, is to remove evil Russia from the scene. We are happy to support Communist China by outsourcing all production in the meantime. Of course, this is not what we wanted to say, but this is what they hear, and they act when they get these lessons. We had a real chance with Russia 25 years ago, but we started off on the wrong foot. Can we fix it now?

Mar 03, 2014 10:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
a6nenad wrote:

@ GeorgeBrown – Thank You! As soon as I read the quote I thought about the same thing…only I think Kerry’s and therefore US’ is a weapons grade hypocrisy that sits at the core of their foreign policy. US/EU supported demonstrations in Kiyev that saw many lives lost and the rise in right wing factions – Putin covered much of eastern Ukraine without a drop of blood spilled.

Mar 04, 2014 12:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
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