Putin: military force would be 'last resort' in Ukraine

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mils54 wrote:

Where did i miss the Russians invading Mexico?,(Music from jeopardy)………….. Oh they didn’t?, So how in the world did this become the U.S vs Russia?. Until the European countries right there ask for Nato assistance, The U.S should just wait and not burn any bridges. Germany, England, France, Poland, etc, etc, are not making as much noise as America! so i am truly missing something. The U.S President is getting the wrong advise, and worse yet Listening to it. This is not the Police the world to keep Defense spending thing happening again is it?, Or even better, the raise the Oil prices thing again or natural Gas……Here it comes!.

Mar 03, 2014 8:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

Are we still playing Risk? Whose turn is it?

Mar 03, 2014 10:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Yamayoko wrote:

Now Putin’s ambition is self-evident, he wants to engulf the whole Crimea and possibly annex parts of Eastern Ukraine. He won’t cease trampling on his neighbor unless his appetite is met.

Many young Ukrainians ignored the code of survival of their country for past 20 years in peace. They must have a puppet president who conducted PR with giant Kremlin while procuring pragmatic deals with EU or US under the table. Tzar Putin can tolerate misdeeds of no one but puppet Yanukovich.

Mar 03, 2014 10:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Even Britain won’t help the US. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572544/Revealed-error-official-files-Britain-NOT-support-military-action-against-Russia.html

Mar 03, 2014 10:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
beerpatzer wrote:

the world needs oil… Russia is the major supplier of oil… Therefore, the world needs Russia… QED…

Mar 03, 2014 10:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

I read this somewhere. This is funny:

“The self-proclaimed Ukrainian government was put into power by people with baseball bats,” Edgar Savisaar told Postimees newspaper. “It lacks both credentials and the capacity to solve the crisis in the country.”

Mar 03, 2014 11:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TheLastNomad wrote:

Yo, guys, the worst possible situation is for the U.S.A. to keep talking. The U.S.A. has nothing to do with this, and it shouldn’t. WE have no authority to tell what RF should do in regards to Ukraine, this debacle is quite complex when you really dissect the contributing issues. So all in all, D.C. should lay low, and keep its administration focused on DOMESTIC issues.

Mar 03, 2014 11:40pm EST  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

(Ras)Putin is the mortal enemy of Ukraine.
Glory to the Heros. Death to the Occupiers.

Mar 04, 2014 12:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

$60 billion in Russian stock value wiped out in the course of a day today, more than Russia spent preparing for last month’s Winter Olympic Games in Sochi.
75% of Russians disapprove of (Ras) Putins decision. Ruble is at record lows. That’s one day in the market. Putin is going to destroy Russia.

Mar 04, 2014 12:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
yellowjap wrote:

Economy is domestic balance. Putin get more benefit by (oil&gas)/cost price and G7 selling of company stock. Also, he and OPEC will get extreme benefit for extra bill to whole EU for penalty.
Wake up! nobody care for US$ based balloon market. It’s just balancing measure. If you price high, other just sell thinking lucky. PLA, Germany, and Japan is not buying your paper and stocks anymore. Even Muscat and Saudi. All playing with but never buy stocks, all eating US business which is too juicy with fat.
Be happy, don’t bother to shape up. Because everybody love happy US. Keep printing money, we’ll buy your money because of happiness of life you show.
But don’t bother to sell cars exceeding 1.5m in width. That’s standard maximum for roads in continent. More than that can’t turn or cross in global standard.

Mar 04, 2014 1:16am EST  --  Report as abuse
JuannaBarlock wrote:

What if the Russian prime minister will come to Ireland in order to support their nationalists? What if he will throw gingerbread on the streets and ask people fight against government, give to them promises about live like in celestial? You ought to stop act like an aggression every very, especially near our borders. Turchynov and all current Ukrainian government are illegitimate and the elections weren’t democratic. More to say, there wasn’t any elections at all. Is that way you propaganda for hundreds of years and call it democracy? So leave us alone and stop being world Jandarm. Stop support Nazi rebels and illegitimate all over the world!!!

Mar 04, 2014 2:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
SeniorMoment wrote:

Neither the EU or USA have not taken this invasion of Crimea seriously enough. We should render direct military assistance to the government of Ukraine in Kiev, which we recognize as the legitimate government. The President and EU nations have not even recalled their ambassadors to Russia or sought to expel I from he UN or closed the Russian Embassies in the West, let alone responded militarily which is what is needed by matching nearby troop strength with Russia’s troop strength. Neither the USA or Russia will respond with nuclear weapons because of the doctrine of mutually assured destruction, but we should provide whatever military assistance the Ukraine in Kiev asks for. There was nothing unlawful about how the disgruntled former president was discharged. It amounted to impeachment by a vote of the Ukraine Parliament.

We can ratio fuels in the USA if needed to provide adequate comparable fuels to the EU in this situation to cut Russia’s source of foreign earning to shreds.

Mar 04, 2014 3:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
Lembeck17 wrote:

Yes, this latest feeble, appeasing “Peace in Our Time” simpering diplomatic puppy tail wag and condtioned whimper. 2014 = 1936.

Mar 04, 2014 3:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
kokesh wrote:

Eastern Hitler.

Mar 04, 2014 4:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
Jocomus wrote:

Quite entertaining but regretful the two former core socialist republics of Soviet Union would put up a real fight at each other for land, harbour and power that neither Lenin nor Stalin had called for. Socialism is always destroyed by itself with the big ego up and running.

Mar 04, 2014 4:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
eieio11490 wrote:

mils54 its a thing called the Budapest memorandum. the US UK and Russia formed a agreement to protect Ukraine if it gave up its nukes in 1994.

Mar 04, 2014 7:15am EST  --  Report as abuse
SallySnyder wrote:

Here is an article that compares the military strength of Ukraine and Russia:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2014/03/ukraines-military-how-much-of-deterrent.html

A huge materiel advantage does not always guarantee victory. Apparently, Russia/USSR has forgotten the lessons of Afghanistan.

Mar 04, 2014 7:27am EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

suppose Putin should understand the rules. We can send troops into Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Cuba (Bay of Pigs), Grenada, Panama, Viet Nam, South Korea, and 67 other countries and have 184 foreign bases. This of course is to protect American interests and American citizens. Russia (Putin) can not send troops in to protect Russian interests in Crimea and Russian citizens who make up over half the population. Those are the rules.

Mar 04, 2014 7:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

Is this like 1984 or something? Putin already has used force in more than 15,000 groups, including contractors to build permanent outposts. The statement that there is “no need to use force” is completely loony.

Mar 04, 2014 7:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

The Ukrainian tax for transit of gas should be raised to exactly match the rise in prices charged to the Ukraine, plus 10%.

Mar 04, 2014 7:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

Putin in his news conference said that Yanokovich did not instruct the security forces to use force, but this use of force against protesters has been posted numerous times on YouTube.

Mar 04, 2014 8:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
Invictuss wrote:

Another failed state

Mar 04, 2014 8:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

This headline is misleading and silly. How can military occultation, cut off of loan assistance, and a jacking up of energy prices, plus threat of use of force against Ukrainian soldiers who have been surrounded and held hostage by the Russian army be characterized as lessening the tensions and pulling back?

Mar 04, 2014 8:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
divinargant wrote:

Wasn’t it obvious to everyone from the very start that if markets got the jitters over this that there would be an about face. After all, who the hell do you think is running this show. It’s all about the money honey…big money and that, as they say, is that.

Mar 04, 2014 8:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

It’s interesting to compare Putin’s comments on Ukraine’s Yatsenuk, with his comments on Egypt’s Sisi. Does Putin oppose the overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovich, while endorsing the overthrow of democratically elected Mohamed Mursi? If so, why?

(For the record, I think we could make such comparisons illustrating inconsistency or favouritism in the foreign policies of most nations; but that doesn’t stop this from being an interesting question in the context of current affairs!)

Mar 04, 2014 8:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
Tsiemba wrote:

Can’t everyone talk this out… I think there is a lot of misunderstandings going on here. It’s when you don’t talk and you listen to hearsay from the media that is when things get misunderstood & conflict starts. There obviously needs to be some mediation between the two countries. Maybe it’s going on, I don’t know… it’s really hard to know exactly what is going on.

Mar 04, 2014 8:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

@WestFlorida: Ukraine doesn’t have pricing power over gas sales to most of Western Europe! There is price elasticity of demand (PED). Due to gas being produced elsewhere and transported via other routes from Russia; any increase in transit fees via Ukraine would decrease gas quantities transported via pipelines on their territory.

Mar 04, 2014 8:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

In 2008, Russia invaded sovereign Georgia and still has troops illegally in that country.

In 2014, Russia invaded sovereign Ukraine, and still has troops illegally in that country. This invasion was done despite breaking international laws.

Do you see a pattern by Russia here of invasions and illegal actions?

Mar 04, 2014 8:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

c’mon Putin do you take us all for suckers. it’s like the bully who goes into the schoolyard and has his foot on a kid’s neck and says i’ll only press down if you try and get up. obama will eat this up as he is looking for any reason to avoid confrontation with someone who he has no chance of dancing with on the geopolitical stage.

Mar 04, 2014 8:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
jrpardinas wrote:

Here’s a little bit of additional analysis…

Putin has achieved what he set out to achieve in the historically Russian provinces of the Ukraine:

He has militarily secured the Crimea.
He has mobilized broad ethnic Russian East Ukrainian opposition to political hegemony from the West.

And if the mob in Kiev is delusional enough to mount an armed invasion of said provinces with, of course, “technical assistance” from the American State Department…

well, it will be Georgia 2008 redux.

Putin can kick back, wait, have a beer.

Mar 04, 2014 9:06am EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

It can be argued that Putin did not invade as well. He simply augmented his already present military forces in the Crimea. Having had to do so given the violence orchestrated by the recent coup d’état which he stated was “unconstitutional.” We however, have taken exception to that for some reason. Could it be that those among us believe there is such a thing as a “constitutional coup d’état ? And in the spirit and intent of true Democracy do we now advocate the violent overthrow of constitutionally and legally and democratically elected Presidents ?

Mar 04, 2014 9:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
KyleDexter wrote:

The US wants to impose sanctions on Russia,
hahahahahahahahahaha

Mar 04, 2014 9:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

If it weren’t for Putin’s plan and arbitrations in Syria, Obama would have invaded Syria and we would have already lost thousands of Americans lives and billions in American treasure and chemical warfare would probably have been rampant. Of course the American public would also have been steadily propagandized into believing that we were “protecting American interests, Democracy, our allies (Israel), fighting against terrorist regimes” and all the usual garbage. John McCain would have been dancing around his pool in his back yard stark naked shadow-boxing and scaring the neighbors while Kerry and Hagel would have been telling us how heroic they both are. The fact is, Putin knows far more than Obama ever will about foreign policies and actions.

Mar 04, 2014 9:09am EST  --  Report as abuse
JamVee wrote:

If Obama wanted to win the “PR war” on this issue, he would have to alter history. The time to have donw something “dramatically courageous” was 3 days ago. The best he could hope for now . . . , it will all turn out to be a “Tempest in a Teapot”, and his indecisiveness will have not done any harm.

Mar 04, 2014 9:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
QuidProQuo wrote:

Unlike Obama who constantly obsesses about how the history books will write things about him, PUtin could care less about how many times his name is written in ink and paper and is focused on today, not the past, not his ego or an obsession with anarchy and chaos, but with strength and honor to what he values as right. There have been far too many voices in America that have tried to lessen our values, moral, ethics and defense of dignity, balance, cohesion and joy. I am so disappointed at the tone, direction and vibe some within our governemnt and military have put out there. I am embarrassed for how we seem to direct our energies at what some consider the definition of how pro democracy should apply. Why do we encourage anarchy and chaos and assasinations and government overthrows? Why do we plant pro democracy trouble makers that are not even closely in tuned to the people, culture, values and tradtions of the places we push into chaos? We are supposed to be the nation of goodness, glory, honor, valor, discipline, integrity, moral strength, self control, unity, peace and dignity. And yet, the last few years have been filled with negative and frenzied messages coming from our own higher ranks who are obnoxious, uncivil, uncouth, reckless, immoral, undignified, vicious, vile, frenzied, and just plain empty and devoid of any inner balance or calm. There are many of us that are fed up with the tone and verbage coming from some within the ranks of our higher ups. Instead of being a nation filled with joyful momentum, cordial respect for each other’s differing beliefs and protection of high standards and values, we have dumbed down our nation, causing many to feel empty, numb, without hope, faith or pride in themselves or their own government. When we stand by anarchists and promise them money if they will cause turmoil in their own native lands, what does that say to the rest of the world? America loves a fool’s folly so let them spend their borrowed dollars on war and conflict and bailout packages. They seem to believe they are the long ranger in global dynamics so let them and their nation falter under the misguided notions that uncivil, fits of rage is the honorable way to guide countries and unite people’s.
I do not fault Putin for anything he has done so far. He has shown amazing self control, he has not gone off on tangents or ego driven rampages. His military is not dominated by hot headed war whores that are just bored and need something to make go BOOM! I see many smaller nations out there today who are growing and coming into their own. They once may have looked to America for guidance and advice, but increasingly, more and more are turning to Russia for guidance and direction. They don’t want to be slammed with liberal agendas or military dogmatic rules, they want to find a way to generate electricity for their people, or open up sea trade lanes, and grow food for their people. Putin doesn’t go in and judge, or send over radical pro Russia anarchists, he doesn’t try to change people’s faiths or beliefs or impose societal mandates, he simply offers knowledge, experience, technology, and collaborative efforts to bring about successful endeavors through state/private devlopment arrangements. When was the last time PUtin boycotted a unity event and did a F*c! you to the host nation? What we did regarding the Olympics and the whole pro gay in your face thing was unnecessary.
I trust Putin on this issue with Ukraine. Just because he is not all woo hoo gung ho about how this newly self appointed government came to be, does not mean he is going to “invade” all of Ukraine. When I look at how things went down over there, I have no respect at all for the faction that broke the treuce and made a call to arms. It is appalling to me for america to glorify them and then promise our money without even working with the EU to channel it tthe right way. Which is why I do have very strong suspicions that it was western instigations and whispered promises that pushed this situation to a place that it needed not be. I trust PUtin and the other civilized, dignified countries that will form security councils and organized negotiations surrounding Crimea. I’m not so sure I trust how America will lend its voice to the whole thing though.

Mar 04, 2014 9:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
Danram wrote:

This is the same Vladimir Putin who said, just a week ago, that Russian military forces would not enter Ukraine at all, correct?

I wouldn’t believe Vladimir Putin if he told me it was raining outside.

The Ukrainian government and the west should operate under the assumption that the question is not “if” he will make a move on eastern Ukraine but “when”. He will send in his “provokatsi” across the border to cities in eastern Ukraine to stir up trouble that he can then use as an excuse to invade. It’s right out of the old KGB playbook.

The US and the EU should continue to press forward with sanctions against Russia while Ukraine should continue mobilizing its army and its reserves while strengthening its defenses in eastern Ukraine as best they can.

The one thing that would ensure that Putin would not move militarily against eastern Ukraine … namely, the deployment of significant NATO air power to that country … doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not yet. But then again, there is almost certainly a lot going on behind the scenes right now that we don’t know about.

Mar 04, 2014 9:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
ofilha wrote:

US invaded Grenada for a few students, invaded panama to get Noriega, invaded Iraq. almost 6000 miles off the US shores, on the subterfuge of weapons of mass destruction even though there was no proof and their evidence was fabricated. As a result of this adventure over 100,000 Iraqis died and their country was totally destroyed, still have not recuperated.

So, why is it okay for Americans to invade anyone they wish but not the Russians?

Mar 04, 2014 9:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

Putin’s philosophy is fascinating: “If enough Russians live there, we can march in.” — Some day, the Chinese may adopt his philosophy and march into Siberia where far more Chinese live than Russians.

Mar 04, 2014 9:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
ofilha wrote:

@westflorida,
Well, if the Ukrainian government adds taxes, they will only hurt Europe not Russia. And did you forget that Ukraine needs Russian gas also? Not to mention the fact that they have not made payments on their debt to the Russians and continue to insist on cheaper gas so they can have it subsidized by the Ukrainian government so their citizens do not have to pay market prcies?

Mar 04, 2014 9:43am EST  --  Report as abuse
Earthtourist wrote:

The troops in Crimea are not Russian, according to Zar Putin. So they must be Russian-speaking Marsians, which means he’ll have to invade so as to protect his ethnic Russians. Simple !

Mar 04, 2014 9:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

Why doesn’t Ukraine hold a plebiscite and leave it to the inhabitants of Ukraine to decide what parts remain in or out of Ukraine? Ukraine left the collapsing USSR as a matter of the purported will of the natives so why not be consistent and let them decide again? Obviously Ukraine independence was a steam roller operation out and a popular vote reflecting those deep seated bigotries or allegiances might be the best solution?

Sanctions are too much a matter of one commercial rival putting the screws to another.

It would allow 17 year olds with guns to see their 18th birthday.

Mar 04, 2014 9:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
M.CH wrote:

But the ferry across the Kerch strait has been captured yesterday by Russian forces which are building up armored vehicles on the Russian side and Russian navy ships are blocking the strait:

http://www.trust.org/item/20140304143125-8xoce

There is no de-escalation. Tt seems rather that Russia is buying time.

Mar 04, 2014 9:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@quid pro
“Putin doesn’t go in and judge, or send over radical pro Russia anarchists ”

In fact, he is sending in Russian biker gangs to intimidate and threaten Ukrainians. If these are Russian “nationalists” and not “anarchists”, does this make your statement correct? I think it’s semantics.

When the Russian puppet leader orders troops to fire on peaceful protesters, ala Syria, then the people better through him out of office or they will end up like Syria and be a stage for a proxy war for everyone else.

Good that they threw him out. Now they need to reorganize and have a peaceful legitimate election, and pass laws to prevent these sorts of atrocities again. Putin has overplayed his hand on this and the Ukraine will likely now side completely with the EU and NATO leaving him out in the cold. He is only digging a deeper hole for himself by tweaking gas prices. It is Putin who is backtracking now, not Obama.

Good that both Obama and Putin are apparently trying to end the chance of a full fledged proxy war and calm things down. Hopefully this ends well for the people of Ukraine who have stood up to this Russian puppet dictator. Hoping for Peace to you all.

Mar 04, 2014 10:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

the way to hit russia is in the pocketbook. they’re the 3rd largest supplier of oil and provide about 30% of the oil/natural gas to the EU. via a coalition of other nations find a way to dramatically reduce energy exports from them and you will have them in a vice. this requires a short and longer term view. the USA should continue full force in obtaining energy independence at home. israel should continue developing the Leviathan basin which would make them a powerhouse in the middle east energy business and serve that up to the EU. viola you got russia right where you want them.

Mar 04, 2014 10:13am EST  --  Report as abuse
andre24211 wrote:

Putin will get what he wants. Those pipelines running through Ukraine and into Europe are at the top of the agenda when Putin hears Ukraine. Russia has lost some international friends over past decade just look at Libya, so they will do all it takes to keep Ukraine a tight knit friend of Russia, even if that means going to war. The U.S know’s this and hence the reason why Obama know’s there’s not much they can do because Putin will push this thing right till the end.

Mar 04, 2014 10:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
Ml2d wrote:

The US, unfortunately, has a long history of getting involved in all the wrong conflicts, and in response, would stay away from the right ones. And the US population has supported this move all throughout this time. whether they like to accept it or not this is the fact. This conflict or escalation in tension between Russia and the west needs the attention of everyone. Here is a nation that truly yearns for freedom and looks to move towards the west in terms of economic growth and culture (unlike Iraq and Afghanistan). This is a nation that has been bullied, coerced and forced into doing the communist Russia’s bid for decades. These people want to be able to make their own decision and do what is best for their nation and NOT for Russia. If there is a conflict, this is where the US and the west needs to get involved.

Mar 04, 2014 10:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

Grenada happened in 1983, this is happening now in 2014 … just to clear that up for all the armchair historians using that as a justification for Putin invading a country to protect Russians there (Russians that are there because of the army bases Russia keeps there).

Mar 04, 2014 10:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
DURO wrote:

Russians flying Russian flags in Ukraine, reminds me of Mexicans flying Mexican flags in Los Angeles and Sacramento, demanding things and saying something like Si Se Puede and The Giant is awaken.
Just a thought…

Mar 04, 2014 10:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
DURO wrote:

Putin is NOT Tzar Putin, he is a dirty little old man trying to impose what he thinks is still a Soviet influence in Europe in South America. He is a new age communist with a Bolshevik mentality, and just like the Soviets before him, he’s stealing from that people, his own Russians, so he can get satisfied with the power he thinks it comes with wealth.

Mar 04, 2014 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
pyanitsa wrote:

The Dow Jones dropped 1.5 pct in 3 hours after opening yesterday wiping out $80 Billion in market cap. GE stock dropped 1.7 pct. Oil prices jumped 2 pct. A sudden rise in the price of oil would cripple the US recovery. Expect more of the same if the US starts sanctions.

The Ukraine is Russia’s backyard. Back off. What is it about “BEWARE OF DOG” that the US State Dept cannot understand?

Mar 04, 2014 11:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
CherokeeSam wrote:

Make no mistake, Putin cannot be trusted. We can only imagine his agenda and end game at this point for Russia’s future. However, now is not the time for the U.S. NATO and the UN to get crazy and lock n`load. Sending Kerry to Kiev at this point is like sending Charles Manson to a KKK meeting with a rope and a truck load of Budweisur.

Mar 04, 2014 11:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Who cares about Ukraine. 92% of Americans polled, already thought Chernobyl was in Russia anyway (it’s not). The other 8 answers ranged from New Jersey to Japan.

This is ceded territory, this is a Russian problem, not an American problem.

Mar 04, 2014 11:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

People miss the point about all this. The problem is not Ukraine, Crimea, Europe or Russia. It’s NATO, the US funded army stationed in Europe. That’s what the US is defending. The US can’t care less about Ukrainians living in Kiev or Crimea. All it cares about is its army(NATO, Blackwater, etc..)pushing towards Russian borders, surrounding Russia.

US leaders are selfish. The US has 800 bases across the globe but can’t bear the idea of Russia having 2 or 3 bases providing it with sea access.

John Kerry has said “you don’t attack countries on trumped up excuses…”

We’ll see in coming days how the US will be able to live up to this claim.

Mar 04, 2014 11:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
Pumuckl wrote:

Nope, no bias here. . . “Ukraine, the cradle of Russian civilization”. Sure, if you consider the Khazarv kingdom to be the mother of the Rus and the Varangians the father. (BTW the term ‘varangoi’ is the Greek term for Viking).
Frankly, the Ukraine owes more to the Polish and Lithuanian cultures for expelling the Mongols.
Moscow, the cultural center of Russia is a relative newcomer to the point that Peter the Great hated it and thus St. Petersburg was born. Even he looked West.
And lets not mention Catherine who invited so many Germans to settle in her new homeland . . . right, where was she from again?
No, for a nation that considers so much of the world to be ‘nekulturny’ Russian roots don’t really go very deep.

Mar 04, 2014 11:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
sarkozyrocks wrote:

An excellent article by Jack Worthington on where he thinks this is going: “Vlad’s Next Move” http://jackworthington.wordpress.com/ .

Mar 04, 2014 11:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
Redford wrote:

His “last resort” was apparently the first, as he’s already done it.

Mar 04, 2014 11:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

If the Ukraine and its ports and gas routes and ‘interests’ are that important to Russia, then why did they allow it to ever become independent 20 years ago? Seems like bad planning on Russia’s part, because the nature of independence from the USSR is that the country may no longer like Russia.

Take-backs on sovereignty? Is Russia this disorganized about everything?

Mar 04, 2014 12:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wilhelm wrote:

“Russia had paid a heavy financial price on Monday for its military intervention in Ukraine, with nearly $60 billion wiped off the value of Russian firms on the Moscow stock market.”

and how many billions in share value was wiped off the NYSE on that same day? seems to me it unloaded quite a bit. oh, yes, there are ‘ramifications’ to the sabre rattling…

Mar 04, 2014 12:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

Last resort to what? Lat resort to getting his way?

Mar 04, 2014 12:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

Last resort to what? Lat resort to getting his way?

Mar 04, 2014 12:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

Last resort to what? Lat resort to getting his way?

Mar 04, 2014 12:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

The reasons Putin is using for invading Ukraine are the exact same reasons Hitler used to invade regions leading up to WW2.

Mar 04, 2014 1:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DominicPaz wrote:

Putin has provided NATO with a perfectly justifiable reason to invade Syria … we’ll just say it’s part of Turkey historically and we need to protect it for the Turks.

THANKS

Mar 04, 2014 1:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MrBlue wrote:

Putin said that there were no Russian soldiers in Crimea! hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha We expect a few little lies from politicians, but come on!

Mar 04, 2014 1:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
oxen wrote:

USA and EU are totally hypocritical and a very annoying bunch believing they can fool the world. It is great Russia is standing up to West(EU/USA/NATO) hegemony. This flocking to Kiev by West officials and the rubbish several USA/EU officials are using to spin what is happening is amazing. Former ambassador of USA to Russia, Kerry and many others all just repeat same accusations against Russia. None of those leaders has any sense to notice that EU brokered a deal and the extremists west backed puppets in Kiev sent in mobs to take power by force. Suppose Syria for example were to renegade on on the chemical weapons deal, the noise and whines and threats from USA would be deafening. The rest of the World is tired of the foolish approach the West uses. Libya was bombed to rubble after UN mandate was abused by NATO. Iraq is in Chaos, after USA invaded under concocted intelligence with help from Blair -one of the worst leaders of all time. Russia should stand firm on Ukraine, the West has caused much trouble already installing all sorts of weird characters in power to help them exploit/control all regions in the World.

Mar 04, 2014 1:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Pumuckl wrote:

” The problem is not Ukraine, Crimea, Europe or Russia. It’s NATO”
So, NATO has troops in the Crimea? NATO is using gas pricing to hold the Ukraine hostage? NATO invaded Georgia?

“This is ceded territory, this is a Russian problem, not an American problem.”
Ceded to whom? While the Crimea is not US territory and the US has very little direct ties with the Ukraine to state that the hegemonic aims of Putin (who has clearly stated his nationalistic goal much the same as Hitler) are of no concern to the US is absurd. By this token we should ignore all national aggressive acts to include the Chinese aims in Tibet the Chinese aims for Taiwan, the Indian aims for Sri Lanka etc.

This is not to suggest that I support US military involvement but rather that to ignore such actions by Putin will in no way allow us to remain uninvolved. Was any nation (even tiny Uruguay) unaffected by WWII? What nation did not have some economic loss during 2008 regardless of their direct involvement?
In modern times there are NO sidelines. We are all involved to one extent or another.

Mar 04, 2014 1:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

PUTINISM, is on the march..right now, he is figuring out , whether a compete war is worth it..He figures, now, he already can annex crimea, into his Putin empire…so is it better to say see west ive stopped, but the crimea s mine…the Obama maladministration will say ohh yess,,,please, please on bended knees..so the net could be, he grabbed a major part of a soverign country and got away with it.. or should he go further and get the next card in his geopolitical game….bad parts, many tens of millions are unwitting pawns , in his game…Iran, china, north korea, see how weak and pathetic the world is in reacting to these bold moves…the road to ww3, has started to be traveled…

Mar 04, 2014 2:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

President Putin said that he responded to a request by President Yanukovich who remains the legal head of state. This is correct. Yanukovich was democratically elected in 2010; the Kiev regime seized power illegally; and Yanukovich sent a letter to Putin asking for military aid. There has been no election, no impeachment, no trial, and no conviction, so Yanukovich is the legal president who has the legal right to request Russian military aid. The Kiev regime has no legal right in this situation.

Secretary Kerry is lying for political reasons. In 2004, he said, “I voted against the (Iraq war) resolution before I voted for it.” He sits on both sides of issues and chooses the one that supports his purpose of the day. I wouldn’t trust this liar with used cat litter.

I am surprised that the Obama administration supports unelected mobs over the legally and democratically elected president. The Obama administration is providing a legal argument for the overthrow of the Obama administration by unelected mobs. To all of you unelected anti-Obama demonstrators out there: the Obama administration says that you have the legal right to remove Obama, his cabinet, and all of his other officials by force. May the best unelected mob win!

Mar 04, 2014 2:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Wow, at 6’4″ Kerry usually towers over those around him. Apparently not so much in Ukraine.

Mar 04, 2014 2:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SeaWa wrote:

Is this the new Soviets ‘coming out party’ ?

Mar 04, 2014 2:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
yrbmegr wrote:

Offer NATO membership to Ukraine.

Mar 04, 2014 2:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

The absolute minimum reaction from the United States is the immediate completion of the treaty with Poland to station anti-ballistic missile system that Obama canceled when he “reset” our relationship with Russia. We will need it to defend against the inevitable deployment of Iranian nuclear missiles.

Mar 04, 2014 2:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

The absolute minimum reaction from the United States is the immediate completion of the treaty with Poland to station anti-ballistic missile system that Obama canceled when he “reset” our relationship with Russia. We will need it to defend against the inevitable deployment of Iranian nuclear missiles.

Mar 04, 2014 2:58pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Danram wrote:

Oh please. Seriously? “Local self-defense forces”? How stupid does Putin think we are?

Mar 04, 2014 3:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Newsrocket wrote:

Putin’s threat that Russian banks would refuse to pay back loans to American banks is a tragic joke played on themselves. If they refused, they’d crippled their own fragile international reputations while the U.S. Federal Reserve would simply order the U.S. Treasury to print (or click) the money to the American banks. Those Russians haven’t changed much in the past 50 years except now they’re more tightly tied to the world economy and so their stupidity is more glaring.

Mar 04, 2014 3:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“Putin Orders Poland Back into Warsaw Pact. Then Rushes Back Home to Create Warsaw Pact.”

Mar 04, 2014 3:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

“President Putin seems to have a different set of lawyers making a different set of interpretations,” Obama said. “But I don’t think that’s fooling anybody.”

Obama keyed in on this right away…because that’s exactly what he does in the US. It takes one to know one…

Mar 04, 2014 4:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
epy01 wrote:

Did everyone forget the Treaty that Ukraine signed with the United States, Russia and Great Britain guaranteeing its geographical sovereignty in 1994 and later affirmed by China and Belarus? Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power with 1900 nuclear weapons and hundreds of ballistic missiles. The treaty committed each signatory to come to the aid of Ukraine after Ukraine relinquished its weapons of mass destruction.

Mar 04, 2014 4:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse

It’s Europe’s business, not ours. Not that I believe anything Putin says, although apparently Wall Street will believe any old lie. Like sub primes can only go up.

Mar 04, 2014 4:48pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

@anotherfakename writes:

“It’s Europe’s business, not ours. Not that I believe anything Putin says…”

Let’s change that just a smidge and take it back 70-some odd years – “It’s Europe’s business, not ours. Not that I believe anything Hitler says.”

Ummm hum! That’s just what “folks” were say back before the war that became known as World War TWO.

Mar 04, 2014 4:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
17plusOne wrote:

How much for that Ukraine in the window? One billion dollars, we’ll take it. ~ Americopoly, the Bored Game

Mar 04, 2014 5:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NBE wrote:

It is Putin’s call, not ours, what Russia does. As an American, I want us to be paying attention, defensively prepared, and strengthening ourselves domestically. I think we only hurt ourselves by injecting this country into foreign matters which do not otherwise involve us. If our people are captured, taken captive, kidnapped, etc., then we go in and get them. Absent such direct involvement, I’d sooner we kept quiet, exquisitely informed, and ready.

Mar 04, 2014 6:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
NBE wrote:

It is Putin’s call, not ours, what Russia does. As an American, I want us to be paying attention, defensively prepared, and strengthening ourselves domestically. I think we only hurt ourselves by injecting this country into foreign matters which do not otherwise involve us. If our people are captured, taken captive, kidnapped, etc., then we go in and get them. Absent such direct involvement, I’d sooner we kept quiet, exquisitely informed, and ready.

Mar 04, 2014 6:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Whatsgoingon wrote:

Did Mr. Putin realize that he could make a fortune just by flipping words? Hope that’s not his plan…

Mar 04, 2014 6:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Hey Putin, you are getting all flustered here. You look scattered. Oh and some rock-and-roll girls are making fun of you again back home.

Decisions decisions.

Mar 04, 2014 6:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
rusty3b wrote:

Seems difficult to believe that any Russians in the Krem (Crimea) are in fear. These people source Berkut and celebrated their success. When did anyone in the Krem openly express fear or terror that Putin talks about?

Mar 04, 2014 7:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnLaN wrote:

Putin has shown that he is willing to negotiate. Kerry needs to quite instigating provocations. This isn’t the Vietnam war you are protesting Kerry. As a diplomat you should be focusing on a diplomatic solution not provoking speech and gestures. As a diplomat you should be trying to be a mediator not a warrior. Do your job Kerry, your days on the barricades are over. The world does not another war. When are you going to meet with your Russian counterpart to seek a safe, sane and reasonable solution. There is no such thing as winner take all. We all lose in any war.

Mar 04, 2014 7:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BornInAmerica wrote:

We’ll, seems we have a lot of short-term memory loss around global politics and so angry the US administration is playing right into the hands of these bandits!

Russia + Syria + Iran = Testing of US sad foreign policy and we are failing miserably at this point and yes, the United States of America must play the world police to prevent this attempt at re-positioning of global power.

Russia is in the wrong, Europe depend on Russia for energy, thus will not support any serious punishment, that is truly needed to set an example. Russia did the same in 2008, the US did nothing. Iran will get nuclear arsenal. Syrian government will still exist. This picture is wrong and yes the United States of America needs to take the lead and show Russia that there is a sheriff in town.

BTW, Russia also fired an ICB, which again, needs to be addressed.

I wish the United States of America didn’t have to be the world’s police, but if we don’t do it, no-one else has the resolve to take the baton, thus the world will be in chaos.

Putin will fall flat on his face, watch over the coming days.

Mar 04, 2014 7:23pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mungem wrote:

Saw this commentary:

http://sickingerh.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/principles-versus-putin/

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royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

Mar 05, 2014 1:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

Mar 05, 2014 1:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

Mar 05, 2014 1:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

Mar 05, 2014 1:17am EST  --  Report as abuse
royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

Mar 05, 2014 1:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
royalcourtier wrote:

The invasion was an act of aggression, as defined under UN Resolution 3314. It does not matter whether these were regular troops or marines, or volunteers. It does not matter than no shots were fired.

Imagine if Mexico sent 20,000 troops into New Mexico, blocked the border roads, surrounded army bases, and appointed a new Governor at gunpoint, would that be a humanitarian intervention, or an invasion?

Russia has breached international law, the UN Charter and the Budapest Memorandum. It must withdraw, or the USA and UK are obliged to go to the assistance of Ukraine – i.e. militarily.

It really disappoints me that many Russians actually believe that the West was behind the unrest in Ukraine, and that as a consequence Ukraine disserves to be dismembered. Similarly many Westerners seem genuinely to believe that Putin was justified in invading another country. Unfortunately Russian propaganda is just as effective as Nazi propaganda was pre-WW2. Putin has many useful idiots, as Stalin once called fellow travellers.

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paintcan wrote:

@royalcoutier – Posting five time is trying to be the propagandist too. Once is enough unless you have Parkinsons? All you are saying is “I know what i know and that’s all that I know”.

There’s already enough fuel on all the fires of the ME and North Africa now there are more in the former Soviet Block. Someone is just itching for human barbeque. And it can all be accomplished with drones. Now you can be cooked by remote control. Isn’t that tidy and so civilized. What do you think is the attitude of those holding the tongs? They can dispose of the problems and feel they are the superior intellects and those poor slobs deserved just what they got as being the “less evolved”.

But if it happens – the cause will be irrelevant and the solution may have no resemblance to the original problems, if there is anyone left to remember the causes to begin with or in any condition to work with a solution. There are countries all over the world that should have their heads handed to them and that is what you would find a lot of – headless countries. And when that happens they will probably run awhile like decapitated chickens until they finally bleed to death.

Mar 05, 2014 6:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BeInspired wrote:

Can anyone say “HITLER”?

Mar 07, 2014 8:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse

People think the West won the cold war with the Soviet Union. The truth is we lost. At some point in the future China will attack and invade Taiwan. At some point in the future Russian nukes will find their way into the hands of anti-American terrorists. At some point in the future atom bombs or hydrogen bombs will simultaneously and anonymously be detonated in all US harbor cities, most likely when the US president gives his State of the Union address. One way or another the US will be destroyed economically and politically by ongoing anonymously detonated nuclear weapons which can easily be sailed into our harbor cities in lead-lined yachts.

How do I know this will happen. I studied the history of mankind. Whenever a power has ever had the military means to weaken and destroy an enemy they have always done so. Those closest to Stalin claim that Stalin would have launched a surprise nuclear attack on the US if he had lived another three years.

Those who think otherwise say, he would never have done such a thing because he had a much larger nuclear arsenal at the time than the Soviet Union. But that meant nothing to Stalin who murdered 30 million of his own citizens. Stalin didn’t care how many Russians we killed or how much of Russia we destroyed. He had a “Highlander mentality.” He believed in the end there can only be one. This need for world domination is codified in human male DNA.

From long before Alexander the Great to long after Napoleon Bonaparte , there have always been ruthless men with one obsession: to dominate the entire world. These people may be smart, but they are not 100% rational. Look at Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi. They all took on the US, even though they were all smart people and it was clear to every person with intelligence they would lose.

The need some human males have to dominate all others is an overwhelming compulsion that is not rational. So at some point, a world leader with this obsession will roll the dice and do their best to try to destroy the US. Humans like Putin are playing RISK, they are not playing Monopoly. Their goal is not to amass as much wealth as possible, but to amass as much land and as much power as possible. They are power hungry. They are willing to risk their life again and again to gain land and power.

Throughout history there have been powerful and mighty civilizations who just wanted to live peaceably with their neighbors. Inevitably, these civilizations feel and were conquered by ruthless enemies who only had one desire. That one desire was world domination and total power at any cost. They would have total control over a destroyed, apocalyptic world, than have to share power in world where they are able to live like a king in a palace. Westerners can’t understand the mentality of people like Putin, George Patten, Stalin, and many others. The US should have stopped the Soviet Union and China from acquiring large nuclear arsenals when we had the chance. We would have saved millions of lives, and a 100 trillion dollars on military defense spending. Instead, the US was not interested in world domination. We are taught that is wrong and immoral. Our belief system virtually guarantees that “adventurists” who are not so idealistic will continue to do their best to cripple the US. At some point they will succeed, because strong, powerful civilizations that just engage in defense always lose-out to weaker political enemies who are more ruthless and aggressive than they are. Earth will descend into chaos because when good people who loved peace had the chance to rule the world, they passed up the opportunity because they were more interested in raising their standard of living and improving economic conditions. Athens fell to Sparta. Every idealistic society has been vanquished by cruel, ruthless barbarians who don’t play by any rules, who just follow the law of the jungle. It is too late for the US. There are too many countries in the world with nuclear arsenals who only care about being the last man standing, who have no interest in win-win scenarios. Humans assume all humans see the world the same way they do, and have the same values they have. This is just not the case. Putin, China, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba care more about world domination than they care about improving the living condition of their population. We are not going to change their value system. Why did Putin invade the Crimea? Because he knew he could, because the cost is not important to him. Some people are willing to take down the whole world to get a chance at world domination. When these people have nuclear arsenals at their disposal , and have the ability to anonymously detonate nuclear weapons in the harbor cities of their enemy, they will do so. Why? Because they can. Because their moral code is not the same as our moral code. They place no value on human life. They place little value on living well. The only thing that matters to them is absolute power. No matter how much they have, the are willing to sacrifice everything to obtain it.

Mar 09, 2014 4:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse

People think the West won the cold war with the Soviet Union. The truth is we lost. At some point in the future China will attack and invade Taiwan.

At some point in the future Russian nukes will find their way into the hands of anti-American terrorists. At some point in the future atom bombs or hydrogen bombs will simultaneously and anonymously be detonated in all US harbor cities, most likely when the US president gives his State of the Union address.

One way or another the US will be destroyed economically and politically by ongoing anonymously detonated nuclear weapons which can easily be sailed into our harbor cities in lead-lined yachts.

How do I know this will happen. I studied the history of mankind. Whenever a power has ever had the military means to weaken and destroy an enemy they have always done so. Those closest to Stalin claim that Stalin would have launched a surprise nuclear attack on the US if he had lived another three years.

Those who think otherwise say, he would never have done such a thing because he had a much larger nuclear arsenal at the time than the Soviet Union. But that meant nothing to Stalin who murdered 30 million of his own citizens. Stalin didn’t care how many Russians we killed or how much of Russia we destroyed. He had a “Highlander mentality.” He believed in the end there can only be one. This need for world domination is codified in human male DNA.

From long before Alexander the Great to long after Napoleon Bonaparte , there have always been ruthless men with one obsession: to dominate the entire world. These people may be smart, but they are not 100% rational. Look at Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi. They all took on the US, even though they were all smart people and it was clear to every person with intelligence they would lose.

The need some human males have to dominate all others is an overwhelming compulsion that is not rational. So at some point, a world leader with this obsession will roll the dice and do their best to try to destroy the US.

Humans like Putin are playing RISK, they are not playing Monopoly. Their goal is not to amass as much wealth as possible, but to amass as much land and as much power as possible. They are power hungry. They are willing to risk their life again and again to gain land and power.

Throughout history there have been powerful and mighty civilizations who just wanted to live peaceably with their neighbors. Inevitably, these civilizations feel and were conquered by ruthless enemies who only had one desire. That one desire is world domination and total power at any cost.

They would have total control over a destroyed, apocalyptic world, than have to share power in world where they are able to live like a king in a palace. Westerners can’t understand the mentality of people like Putin, George Patten, Stalin, and many others. The US should have stopped the Soviet Union and China from acquiring large nuclear arsenals when we had the chance. We would have saved millions of lives, and a 100 trillion dollars on military defense spending. Instead, the US was not interested in world domination. We are taught that is wrong and immoral.

Our belief system virtually guarantees that “adventurists” who are not so idealistic will continue to do their best to cripple the US. At some point they will succeed, because strong, powerful civilizations that just engage in defense always lose-out to weaker political enemies who are more ruthless and aggressive than they are. Earth will descend into chaos because when good people who loved peace had the chance to rule the world, they passed up the opportunity because they were more interested in raising their standard of living and improving economic conditions. Athens fell to Sparta.

Every idealistic society has been vanquished by cruel, ruthless barbarians who don’t play by any rules, who just follow the law of the jungle. It is too late for the US. There are too many countries in the world with nuclear arsenals who only care about being the last man standing, who have no interest in win-win scenarios. Humans assume all humans see the world the same way they do, and have the same values they have. This is just not the case. Putin, China, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba care more about world domination than they care about improving the living condition of their population.

We are not going to change their value system. Why did Putin invade the Crimea? Because he knew he could, because the cost is not important to him. Some people are willing to take down the whole world to get a chance at world domination. When these people have nuclear arsenals at their disposal, and have the ability to anonymously detonate nuclear weapons in the harbor cities of their enemy, they will do so. Why? Because they can.

Because their moral code is not the same as our moral code. They place no value on human life. They place little value on living well. The only thing that matters to them is absolute power. No matter how much they have, the are willing to sacrifice everything to obtain it.

Mar 09, 2014 4:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse

People think the West won the cold war with the Soviet Union. The truth is we lost. At some point in the future China will attack and invade Taiwan.

At some point in the future Russian nukes will find their way into the hands of anti-American terrorists. At some point in the future atom bombs or hydrogen bombs will simultaneously and anonymously be detonated in all US harbor cities, most likely when the US president gives his State of the Union address.

One way or another the US will be destroyed economically and politically by ongoing anonymously detonated nuclear weapons which can easily be sailed into our harbor cities in lead-lined yachts.

How do I know this will happen. I studied the history of mankind. Whenever a power has ever had the military means to weaken and destroy an enemy they have always done so. Those closest to Stalin claim that Stalin would have launched a surprise nuclear attack on the US if he had lived another three years.

Those who think otherwise say, he would never have done such a thing because he had a much larger nuclear arsenal at the time than the Soviet Union. But that meant nothing to Stalin who murdered 30 million of his own citizens. Stalin didn’t care how many Russians we killed or how much of Russia we destroyed. He had a “Highlander mentality.” He believed in the end there can only be one. This need for world domination is codified in human male DNA.

From long before Alexander the Great to long after Napoleon Bonaparte , there have always been ruthless men with one obsession: to dominate the entire world. These people may be smart, but they are not 100% rational. Look at Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi. They all took on the US, even though they were all smart people and it was clear to every person with intelligence they would lose.

The need some human males have to dominate all others is an overwhelming compulsion that is not rational. So at some point, a world leader with this obsession will roll the dice and do their best to try to destroy the US.

Humans like Putin are playing RISK, they are not playing Monopoly. Their goal is not to amass as much wealth as possible, but to amass as much land and as much power as possible. They are power hungry. They are willing to risk their life again and again to gain land and power.

Throughout history there have been powerful and mighty civilizations who just wanted to live peaceably with their neighbors. Inevitably, these civilizations feel and were conquered by ruthless enemies who only had one desire. That one desire is world domination and total power at any cost.

They would have total control over a destroyed, apocalyptic world, than have to share power in world where they are able to live like a king in a palace. Westerners can’t understand the mentality of people like Putin, George Patten, Stalin, and many others. The US should have stopped the Soviet Union and China from acquiring large nuclear arsenals when we had the chance. We would have saved millions of lives, and a 100 trillion dollars on military defense spending. Instead, the US was not interested in world domination. We are taught that is wrong and immoral.

Our belief system virtually guarantees that “adventurists” who are not so idealistic will continue to do their best to cripple the US. At some point they will succeed, because strong, powerful civilizations that just engage in defense always lose-out to weaker political enemies who are more ruthless and aggressive than they are. Earth will descend into chaos because when good people who loved peace had the chance to rule the world, they passed up the opportunity because they were more interested in raising their standard of living and improving economic conditions. Athens fell to Sparta.

Every idealistic society has been vanquished by cruel, ruthless barbarians who don’t play by any rules, who just follow the law of the jungle. It is too late for the US. There are too many countries in the world with nuclear arsenals who only care about being the last man standing, who have no interest in win-win scenarios. Humans assume all humans see the world the same way they do, and have the same values they have. This is just not the case. Putin, China, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba care more about world domination than they care about improving the living condition of their population.

We are not going to change their value system. Why did Putin invade the Crimea? Because he knew he could, because the cost is not important to him. Some people are willing to take down the whole world to get a chance at world domination. When these people have nuclear arsenals at their disposal, and have the ability to anonymously detonate nuclear weapons in the harbor cities of their enemy, they will do so. Why? Because they can.

Because their moral code is not the same as our moral code. They place no value on human life. They place little value on living well. The only thing that matters to them is absolute power. No matter how much they have, the are willing to sacrifice everything to obtain it.

Mar 09, 2014 4:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse

People think the West won the cold war with the Soviet Union. The truth is we lost. At some point in the future China will attack and invade Taiwan.

At some point in the future Russian nukes will find their way into the hands of anti-American terrorists. At some point in the future atom bombs or hydrogen bombs will simultaneously and anonymously be detonated in all US harbor cities, most likely when the US president gives his State of the Union address.

One way or another the US will be destroyed economically and politically by ongoing anonymously detonated nuclear weapons which can easily be sailed into our harbor cities in lead-lined yachts.

How do I know this will happen. I studied the history of mankind. Whenever a power has ever had the military means to weaken and destroy an enemy they have always done so. Those closest to Stalin claim that Stalin would have launched a surprise nuclear attack on the US if he had lived another three years.

Those who think otherwise say, he would never have done such a thing because he had a much larger nuclear arsenal at the time than the Soviet Union. But that meant nothing to Stalin who murdered 30 million of his own citizens.

Stalin didn’t care how many Russians we killed or how much of Russia we destroyed. He had a “Highlander mentality.” He believed in the end there can only be one. This need for world domination is codified in human male DNA.

From long before Alexander the Great to long after Napoleon Bonaparte , there have always been ruthless men with one obsession: to dominate the entire world. These people may be smart, but they are not 100% rational. Look at Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi. They all took on the US, even though they were all smart people and it was clear to every person with intelligence they would lose.

The need some human males have to dominate all others is an overwhelming compulsion that is not rational. So at some point, a world leader with this obsession will roll the dice and do their best to try to destroy the US.

Humans like Putin are playing RISK, they are not playing Monopoly. Their goal is not to amass as much wealth as possible, but to amass as much land and as much power as possible. They are power hungry. They are willing to risk their life again and again to gain land and power.

Throughout history there have been powerful and mighty civilizations who just wanted to live peaceably with their neighbors. Inevitably, these civilizations feel and were conquered by ruthless enemies who only had one desire. That one desire was world domination and total power at any cost.

They would have total control over a destroyed, apocalyptic world, than have to share power in world where they are able to live like a king in a palace. Westerners can’t understand the mentality of people like Putin, George Patten, Stalin, and many others.

The US should have stopped the Soviet Union and China from acquiring large nuclear arsenals when we had the chance. We would have saved millions of lives, and a 100 trillion dollars on military defense spending.

Instead, the US was not interested in world domination. We are taught that is wrong and immoral. Our belief system virtually guarantees that “adventurists” who are not so idealistic will continue to do their best to cripple the US.

At some point they will succeed, because strong, powerful civilizations that just engage in defense always lose-out to weaker political enemies who are more ruthless and aggressive than they are.

Earth will descend into chaos because when good people who loved peace had the chance to rule the world, they passed up the opportunity because they were more interested in raising their standard of living and improving economic conditions. Athens fell to Sparta.

Every idealistic society has been vanquished by cruel, ruthless barbarians who don’t play by any rules, who just follow the law of the jungle. It is too late for the US.

There are too many countries in the world with nuclear arsenals who only care about being the last man standing, who have no interest in win-win scenarios. Humans assume all humans see the world the same way they do, and have the same values they have. This is just not the case. Putin, China, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba care more about world domination than they care about improving the living condition of their population. We are not going to change their value system. Why did Putin invade the Crimea? Because he knew he could, because the cost is not important to him.

Some people are willing to take down the whole world to get a chance at world domination. When these people have nuclear arsenals at their disposal , and have the ability to anonymously detonate nuclear weapons in the harbor cities of their enemy, they will do so. Why? Because they can.

Because their moral code is not the same as our moral code. They place no value on human life. They place little value on living well. The only thing that matters to them is absolute power. No matter how much they have, the are willing to sacrifice everything to obtain it.

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