Global warming slowdown likely to be brief: U.S., UK science bodies

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morbas wrote:

Local weather extremes, from drought to flood in the corn belt, simply to much over cast (wet) weather in the East for crops to grow, and California extreme drought (and wild fire). These from a supposedly ‘beneficial global +1 degree C warming’. SOL’s (our named sun) magnetic field weakens as it reverses, and Earth’s magnetic field also flipping (weakening); that both increase cosmic ray cloud cooling effect. But, alas too little or no avale (neutralizing) ‘beneficial +1 degree C’ industrial global warming. I urge the mislead people to read ‘Rare Earth’. NASA is finding thousands of planetary star system(s), and SETI does not detect a single ‘industrial’ extra terrestrial civilization; it is eerily quiet out there amongst this plethora of planetary systems.
–Greenland ICE volume 9 Meters Ocean Level Rise
–Antarctic ICE volume 73Meters Ocean Level Rise
We know what America looked like 100M years ago with no polar ice; two mountain ranges, Appalachian and Laramidia separated by the Western Interior Seaway. Florida completely awash. Russia and China would dominate the world.
We must forget our pettish differences, we may be fighting for survival of Democracy, to include USA, in one single planetary cause.

Engineering can address environmental issues, it will take a 10 year push. Here is what is needed…
Congress must push infrastructure projects to enable USA economics. Reduce/eliminate naval shipping that uses waste grade oil fuel without environmental controls. Switch to North/Central/South America Rail infrastructure to include a Trans-Bearing Strait route as a matter of efficiency. Re-Engineer rail gauge for reliability and speed. Make Truck/rail/freeway portals at interstate intersections, thus reducing fuel consumption and promoting local electric transport. Build national level canals for water distribution relieving drought by using excessive fresh water run of. We might then improve CO2 sequester by irrigating our mid plane deserts. One of the canal paths through the Rockies could be coupled with a SF to Denver Maglev 2G space ramp using a common power generation infrastructure. Thus promoting Maglev transit as a spinoff of Space Access Maglev launch capacity.
We should build on a strategic infrastructure designed to make USA a Global transportation hub, linking Americas (North Central South) to the old world. Not because this is easy or hard, because this will be our challenge, we must be willing to better mankind.
Thus we become a Space Faring Nation,
morbas(i)

Feb 27, 2014 6:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
TrueScience wrote:

A paper published in Nature, published in late 2013, and online Jan 2, which says new data shows there has been no “pause” in global warming and that a 4C global temperature rise is now projected that would likely be “catastrophic” rather than simply “dangerous.” For example, it would make life difficult, if not impossible, in much of the tropics. And by about 2040, we’d be similarly affected. By 2100, global temperatures are projected to increase by 4C, life-threatening for most species, including humans. This assumes we continue with our current rates of use of fossil fuels.

The “pause” has been addressed in numerous other media, including January articles in both Scientific American and the Washington Post which explain that the “pause” was achieved by deniers manipulating the data by using a particular date to begin with, a 17 year period which was a freakishly cold El Niño year. Choose any other year and the “pause” disappears, replaced by a higher rate of warming than the long-term trend line.

Feb 27, 2014 7:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Miner49er wrote:

The dubious hypothesis of anthropogenic climate change will have been definitively falsified within five years. When ambient carbon dioxide declines or remains steady, even while CO2 emissions continue to rise, the only possible conclusion will be that CO2 does not cause climate change. It will therefore be the correct conclusion.

Feb 28, 2014 8:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
morbas wrote:

@Miner49er: “The ‘unsure outcome’ hypothesis of ‘influence that humans have on the natural world’ will have been definitively flassified within five years.”
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Say What? Your circular statement is erroneous by the definitions of words used to confound bad idealogue.
morbas(i) :)

Feb 28, 2014 9:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
Yapee_DooDa wrote:

While some of the “missing heat” may not be fully understood, it is very well understood that oceans act as a heat sink and once they equalize with surface temperatures, the planet will jump in global temperatures. People have to start taking a longer term view.

Feb 28, 2014 1:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@Miner49er, Proof for your assertions perhaps? I think I would rather take the word of 99% of scientists in this area then you, unless of course you have some evidence for your claims?

Feb 28, 2014 1:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
morbas wrote:

Appologies…
@Miner49er: “The ‘unsure outcome’ hypothesis of ‘influence that humans have on the natural world’ will have been definitively falsified within five years.”
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Say What? Your circular statement is erroneous by the definitions of words used to confound bad idealogue.
morbas(i) :)
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USA Pragmatist2:”Proof for ‘miner49er’ assertions perhaps…”is only a testament of circular logic. Is it the unsure outcome that will be falsified, or anthropogenic climate? Surely not the second !

Feb 28, 2014 2:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jdey123 wrote:

“It projected that temperatures would rise by between 2.6 and 4.8 Celsius (4.7-8.6 F) by 2100 unless governments took strong action to limit rising emissions of greenhouse gases, broadly in line with U.N. estimates.

Temperatures have gained about 0.8 C (1.4 F) since the 19th century.”

Indeed, and the earth’s surface temperature has been flat since 2001 according to HADCRUT4 and NOAA and flat since 1996 according to RSS. The long term global warming trend is 0.8/(2014-1850)=0.0048C per year. This implies a likely further warming by 2100 of (2100-2014)*0.0048=0.42C, that’s less than 1/10th of the higher end of the range that the Royal Society claims to have confidence in. Each year, that this pause continues, the higher the warming rate would have to be.

Mar 01, 2014 3:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DavidinWY wrote:

This study, and the thoughtful comments by morbas & TrueScience are typical world scientist belief. While the strange, illogical rants of Fox News “believers” have big words, backed up by the same studies authored BY Fox News “believers”. There are actual studies that indeed use data from sites that while once were placed outside major cities in places like airports, are now too close and are affected by heat from encroaching populations. Now that the data from those sites are being thrown out, it is showing that warming is not as bad as once thought. That said, you have other major factors that have slowed warming, things like a decrease in solar radiation from Sol, an increase in volcanic gases that reflect solar radiation, the planet is in a slightly elongated orbit (an anticipated one) and finally, there has been an un-anticipated increase of the heat-sync of our oceans, deflected heat by whiter cloud tops, a decrease in human activity caused by the current recession even. While this is giving us a bit longer to get our act together, it’s only weakening our resolve to solve our energy problem. It is a fact that we should be seeing the beginning of the next ice-age, we aren’t. Personally, I doubt very much that anything will convince certain groups (the people that have been spending all that money to convince us there is disagreement among scientists) that our kids won’t inherit all the debt from a greening of the economy. It’s the same people that don’t believe there are any consequence of this constant war-footing, giving tax breaks to the oligarchs that run both government and corporations in completely isolated circles of these dominant elite. How are we supposed to change anything? Stopping the spending on military? Get real! We need to question the logic of seeing the same people that run our country make all the rules that benefit those same businesses that they are coming from, and going back to after they leave! We need to stop seeing threats just because some politician tells us that they’re our enemy! We need to save our planet! We have only ourselves to blame, would it really be all that bad to bring our boys home? Stop wasting all that energy chasing a few radicals all over the world with military forces, let the police do their jobs! Stop militarizing our own police forces! There are some things that are “too expensive”, there is a “too much force”, some fuels are just too dirty, some vehicles are too big for one person, and aren’t necessary for picking up a few bags of groceries!

Some people on BOTH sides are stubbornly refusing to look at all the facts, I am glad that there is a little more time to take action. I and a lot of other people do question where we are going. I see green as an improvement. If it is in our best interests, why fight so hard to remain standing in one place (metaphorically speaking) when there is such a need for change?

Mar 03, 2014 6:32am EST  --  Report as abuse
Jose3 wrote:

CO2 levels lag behind temperature, so expect a decrease in CO2 levels. Don’t be fooled by an out of control government.

Mar 03, 2014 9:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
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