Malaysia says jet crashed in sea; China wants evidence

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ReadandShare wrote:

Black box locator? Would love to know why the two-week delay???

Mar 23, 2014 12:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Hank812 wrote:

FYI – The Chinese icebreaker that left Perth to assist in the search is named Xue Long (2 words). Pedantic I know, but accurate.

Mar 24, 2014 3:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse
QWhy wrote:

They do not want to find this plane.
Question: Why?

Mar 24, 2014 5:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

Hank812 wrote:
“FYI – The Chinese icebreaker that left Perth to assist in the search is named Xue Long (2 words). Pedantic I know, but accurate.”

China Central TV:
“China’s Antarctic research vessel, “Xuelong”, which was docked in Australia, is also on its way to the area where the debris was spotted. Our reporter Wang Renwei is on board the Xuelong, with the latest on its mission.”

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20140323/102570.shtml

Xinhuanet:
“ABOARD XUELONG, March 23 (Xinhua) — Chinese icebreaker Xuelong is expected to arrive Tuesday at the area in the southern Indian Ocean where possible debris of the missing Malaysian jetliner MH370 had been spotted in satellite images.”

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-03/23/c_133208153.htm

China Daily:
“China’s icebreaker Xuelong heads to open water”

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-01/07/content_17221691.htm

Chinese Arctic and Antarctic Administration:
“A Brief Introduction of R/V Xuelong

Built in Ukraine in 1993, R/V Xuelong was an icebreaker ice-strengthened to Class B1.”

http://www.chinare.gov.cn/en/index.html?pid=stations&st=xuelong

Peoples Daily:
“Talks between the Ministry of Transport and the State Oceanic Administration have taken place over the possibility of sending China’s research vessel and icebreaker Xuelong to search for the missing MH370 airplane, an official said Thursday.”

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90883/8573264.html

Shanghai Daily:
“CHINA’S icebreaker for Antarctic research, Xuelong, or Snow Dragon, is ready to search the possible area for the missing Malaysian airplane, maritime authorities said today.”

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/national/Chinas-Xuelong-icebreaker-ready-for-MH370-search/shdaily.shtml

You are correct about the pedantic bit, but not so much the accurate as the Chinese are happy enough to write it as one word.

In reality, writing Xue Long as two words is a westernising of the pinyin (or would you prefer pin yin?). It translates as ‘Snow Dragon’ so westerners want it to be two words to match modern conventions of Latin script. The Chinese 雪龙 is a single cluster, or one word.

Mar 24, 2014 5:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TaiwanTV wrote:

Just moment ago, Taiwan’s dictator President Ma Ying-jeou has begin to order police and military troops to round up unarmed protesters.

The situation has escalated to a point that deserves immediate international humanitarian intervention. Asian country leaders are paying close attention to the development of the situation.

This video including the footage of a woman shouting back to the weaponized police for beating her. Also foreign visitors who travels to the country were also pushed back along with the crowd during the citizen round up.

Some media were blocked from broadcasting to the world. Internet at some areas were restricted. This is the only two non-censored video that were able to upload.

Hospital doctors and medical nurses who comes to protect the crowd were beaten and dragged away during the violent attack at the legislative hall area where the students have been occupying. They were dragged away to prevent treating the injured people.

We have just now learned that the President Ma has ordered the 2nd wave of attack using brutal force on the protesting college students. These students are the best and the brightest young kids from the top universities in Taiwan.

The money-thirst dictator has vowed to trade with China in whatever means necessary, even if it means to strangulate the future Taiwan’s younger generation. However he denies any pressure or involvement from China.

Let’s just pray that foreign intervention can come to help before it escalate further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOlFQar3ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vLAZQRRjY

Mar 24, 2014 6:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RJ893CC wrote:

ReadandShare… if you read carefully you’d see that the black box detector is something that is towed slowly behind a ship. You can’t search the entire ocean with it, so it is only brought in to search a small area once they known roughly where to find it.

Mar 24, 2014 9:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
hpecha wrote:

That would be “Hones in” -for the headline… just sayin.

Mar 24, 2014 9:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
spellingman wrote:

*HoNes …you can’t home in on something.

Mar 24, 2014 9:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
8s241527j wrote:

God bless the souls and the relatives of the victims.

Mar 24, 2014 10:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BiteRight wrote:

The Malaysian PM should have confirmed this 2 weeks ago, as nobody could survive in a plane devoid of oxygen, water and food for more than a day, while lying on 7,000-meter deep ocean floor.

Luckily though tragedy is admitted, if the gov idiots still uphold just missing or hijack, I am afraid they’ll have to foot a bill that costs their national carrier to go broke sooner than the plane found.

Mar 24, 2014 11:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ReverendJim wrote:

There you have it. This proves once and for all that the only black hole involved is the one between the ears of any person still trusting CNN for information.

Mar 24, 2014 11:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bob9999 wrote:

It is likely that no one will every completely understand everything that happened here.

But the international efforts to locate MH370 and investigate its disappearance may ultimately be seen as one of the most productive diplomatic exercises the Asia-Pacific region has ever experienced.

Mar 24, 2014 11:20am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Johnathan78 wrote:

This is a lie , where is the wreckage ? This plane was a landed at a US airbase…..no plane no crash !!

Mar 24, 2014 11:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

This just opens up new questions about the “never before used” British analysis, the nature of which has not been revealed.

Mar 24, 2014 11:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CF137 wrote:

A huge 777 vanishes into thin air…the “experts” don’t know what happened or what to do…and then everyone scratches their heads and wonders why conspiracy theories get formed.

Mar 24, 2014 11:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dumbstruck wrote:

Clearly, the Malaysian PM has more important things to do than keep looking for an answer. Not in the least unexpected from a politician, they are all habitual liars, leeches and criminals.

Mar 24, 2014 11:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Franfran wrote:

Sadly every assumption that is made is announced as fact until these families have been torn in so many directions. This entire process has been nothing less than cruel to these dear grieving souls. I feel so very sorry for these people and I pray for them to have the strength to endure whatever is ahead. Shame on the governments and experts who always wanted to be the first to make it in front of the camera to announce some “new” information and making the lives of the family members more and more difficult and shame on those who withheld actual information that could have led to what might have happened to this plane and possibly an earlier and easier resolution.

Mar 24, 2014 12:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Instantaneous satellite data…. produced two weeks after the entire world searches from Vietnam to Antarctica for Malaysia’s lost plane? Malaysia is a nation not very grateful or capable.

Mar 24, 2014 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
scotttech wrote:

The beacon from the black box will only transmit so far and that’s providing it survived itself…

Mar 24, 2014 1:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
The_Traveler wrote:

ReadandShare posted: “Black box locator? Would love to know why the two-week delay???”

Presumably the signal from the black box on board the aircraft is not a high powered one. Battery power and potentially being under thousands of feet of seawater would limit its transmission range. It would be necessary to get within a fairly close range of the downed aircraft with the black box detector to pick up its signal. Considering the overwhelming size of the potential search areas, in both hemispheres, the delay is understandable.

Mar 24, 2014 1:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
2Borknot2B wrote:

I hope they find the bodies, I want to see what happened to the pilots. I want to know how they were choked. L.

Mar 24, 2014 1:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
9789787 wrote:

How will they prove it? They must find the black box and plane right? Or they already know where it is and will find it in a day or two? Will they hire a commission like they did for 911 or JFK if they don’t find the plane and black box? Will they plant fake evidence? At this point they can come up with any story they want, get closure, move on and we will stop questioning it or we will be called conspiracy wackos.
Then they will make a movie confirming the alleged report.

Mar 24, 2014 1:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kehenaliving wrote:

hysterics two weeks later? Get a grip on reality people! where do you think the plane landed, Gilligan’s Island?

Mar 24, 2014 1:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
saharadweller wrote:

Islam has nothing to do with this crash, unless you believe wackos such as jackdanielsesq .

Mar 24, 2014 2:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

Not impossible, but something just doesn’t sound right. In fact, a lot doesn’t sound right. This should be an announcement of speculation; not a conclusion.

Can we expect a bizarre collection of a few small pieces of “aircraft,” ala the Pentagon & Shanksville 757s of 9/11?

Mar 24, 2014 2:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
WJL wrote:

Sadly western media is inserting anti China propaganda in their articles on this incident. China is cooperating with Malaysia and contributed greatly to the search. China does not demand but request for information. Agencies and various editors are trying to stir up ill will between Asean nations.

Mar 24, 2014 2:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

Methinks some folks posting comments have their tin-foil hats on too tight. Whackadoodle conspiracy theories are being squeezed out of their brains.

Mar 24, 2014 2:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
O.Aju wrote:

Why do they release such a statement which is only based on calculations?
Why not wait until some concrete findings have been confirmed to belong to the plane?

This again sounds chaotic, rushed and pre-mature.

Mar 24, 2014 2:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rebelusa2000 wrote:

I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but to me, something is funny. Something just isn’t right.

Mar 24, 2014 3:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Crash866 wrote:

saharadweller
Prove it…either way…how abut waiting until all the FACTS come out?

Mar 24, 2014 3:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Antipriest wrote:

They informed the relatives by SMS message!!! That grinds my gears!

Mar 24, 2014 3:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
4sight2020 wrote:

now people can take the “have you seen me” flyers off of all the telephone poles.

Mar 24, 2014 3:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
donaldsk27 wrote:

It’s sub-Antarctic, not sub-Arctic waters

Mar 24, 2014 4:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
w33 wrote:

The depth of the ocean at this point exceeds 3000 meters.
It does not look good.
http://www.geocontext.org/publ/2010/04/profiler/en/?topo_ha=2014031686545122

Mar 24, 2014 4:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carrie530 wrote:

the MA is really ridiculous, how can u claim the aircraft crashed without a single piece of debris? they are extremely irresponsible.

Mar 24, 2014 5:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
timebandit wrote:

@ReadandShare – It’s a big ocean, actually two big and DEEP oceans that the relatively tiny plane could’ve flown over and crashed into.

Mar 24, 2014 5:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

> Malaysia says jet crashed in sea

This of course is complete and utter BS.
The pilot turned the plane around and headed back to Malaysia, threatening to crash the plane on the Malaysia government because of his political beliefs. The Malaysian military shot the plane out of the sky. The Malaysian government has been in coverup ever since because of Chinese citizens on board the aircraft.
Nobody is going to find any debris, the Malaysians want the search to continue in the Indian ocean where the debris isn’t.
You want to find what’s left of this plane then draw a straight line from where it turned around to the Malaysian government buildings and you’ll find the debris.

Mar 24, 2014 5:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
timebandit wrote:

Perspective people: It took 2 years to find Air France 447 off the coast of South America.

Mar 24, 2014 5:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mott wrote:

What a tragedy.. sincere condolences for the affected families.

Mar 24, 2014 5:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rebelusa2000 wrote:

It just seems like something as costly as an airplane, or jet, would have more monitoring systems on it than they say… I just don’t believe it was lost… but I don’t know, I wasn’t there. I have my own theories.

Mar 24, 2014 5:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
aonlinec wrote:

Why is the ocean near Perth being referred to as sub-Arctic?

Mar 24, 2014 5:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

Yeah, Malaysia did such a fine job organizing the search. Now they want to head up the investigation? Good luck with that. That will pretty much guarantee that nobody ever finds out what happened. They should hand it over to the Euro and US investigators.

Mar 24, 2014 6:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ErickaLina wrote:

It did NOT take 2 years to find Air France 447. They found it within in 5 days. It took 2 years to pull the wreckage out.

Mar 24, 2014 6:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Shieldey wrote:

People text/use cellular data, as well as use their laptop with wifi on airplanes all the time. You mean to tell me there was NO transmission or tracking able to be recovered? Also, we can create hover cars, nuclear weapons, technology to stop nuclear missles in mid air, but we can’t find an airplane? This is nothing but a setup, from our wonderful corrupted, so called “Government” you people think we have. For those that don’t know, the media will only tell us as citizens so much on tragic events as this.

Via MSN: “Most of the satellite images we have received have been gathered by satellites which have had their look angle directed on this area” since the plane went missing.

So, where’s the evidence? Where’s the data/images to prove to us that have enough to confirm such?

I don’t care whether you all want to believe the government, or think all of us that have different opinions are conspiracy freaks, but this is something that is happening everyday. They know more, and aren’t telling, for a reason; it was wrong on what they have done.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they did shoot the plane down due to the Pilot/someone hijacking it, or possibly having the plane flown to Diego Garcia so the passengers can be held for medical research.

I also know there’s a lot more things that should be focused on as well that’s going on in the world, but why hasn’t Obama said anything or showed any sympathy on what’s going on?

We “Our president” can stick our nose in on everything else and play the father figure, but he doesn’t say one word on a plane that just vanishes out of the air?

Lord have mercy on the generation beneath me.

Mar 24, 2014 6:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
WILLOBIE wrote:

At this point, why would anyone care what Malaysian officials say about this flight?

Mar 24, 2014 7:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
XianSheng wrote:

China should put their money where their mouth is and start funding a massive search with hundreds of ships, planes, satellites, personnel, etc. Not just demand others to do this for them. The West has already spent way too much money on the mostly Chinese passengers that where on the missing plane.

Mar 24, 2014 8:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

dd606 wrote:
“Yeah, Malaysia did such a fine job organizing the search. Now they want to head up the investigation? Good luck with that. That will pretty much guarantee that nobody ever finds out what happened. They should hand it over to the Euro and US investigators.”

The white supremacists are alive and kicking.

Mar 24, 2014 9:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

O.Aju wrote:
“Why do they release such a statement which is only based on calculations?
Why not wait until some concrete findings have been confirmed to belong to the plane?”

If the plane is officially missing, insurance companies cannot start processing claims. If the plane is officially crashed, they can, but they need some evidence to back it up even though we all know it has crashed. Now they have some evidence, so people can start making claims.

Mar 24, 2014 9:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
perhapsmaybe wrote:

To editors: “(…)southwest of Perth, in icy sub-Arctic seas”. Sub-Antarctic seas, Arctic is on the Northern hemisphere.

Mar 24, 2014 9:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

WJL wrote:
“China does not demand but request for information.”

Maybe China should read newspapers instead of making a diplomatic issue out of it:

“UK satellite operator used 19th century physics to trace missing plane”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/us-malaysia-airlines-inmarsat-pings-idUSBREA2N1OJ20140324

It looks to me as though China is sulking because they didn’t figure it out first.

Mar 24, 2014 10:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Skepticism101 wrote:

I’m glad China is investigating, someone with legitimate technology has to.

Mar 24, 2014 10:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DbPolk wrote:

There you go again. Saying it so does not make it so.

Mar 24, 2014 11:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

They have to solve this problem and know the cause of the crash or it could happen again.

It would be a different matter if it were only a private plane but a commercial airliner that expects to stay in business carrying more than livestock should know what happened and has to be able to explain it, more or less, to most people’s reasonable understanding, even if it might be a matter of the airliner’s negligence.

But the suicide scenario doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Mar 24, 2014 12:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Marindia wrote:

There’s lots of junk in the sea. Unless a piece of debris is confirmed to have come from the 370, the incident cannot be written off as a crash in the Southern Indian Ocean based on an iffy analysis.
Marindia

Mar 24, 2014 12:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse

…maybe it was hijacked(by someone knowledgeable on how to switch communications off) but the pilot deliberately took a wrong direction hoping that the plane would be challenged and forced down by military authorities of the countries they overflew but they(military) slept on the job..

Mar 25, 2014 1:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lololopl wrote:

the airliner, would have to pay for all those deaths, about 1 million per person.

Mar 25, 2014 2:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
skylangford wrote:

I agree with you QWHy….Its really hard to believe the PM of Malaysia when a country like China doesn’t even believe him…..somethings wrong…..

Mar 25, 2014 2:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
saharadweller wrote:

To Crash866, given your request to prove another negative, I guess you are still looking for WMD in Iraq ?

Mar 25, 2014 3:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
allis wrote:

There was no problem yesterday the australian ship was an hour from the so called crash site at 14h00, we hear nothing from them all afternoon, and now thye search is called off due to bad weather, there is lots of games played by the different countries involed in this search. someone does not want the truth, shame on all of you, you are dealing with people and their families.

Mar 25, 2014 3:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

@saharadweller

You are expecting too much.

Some people *want* it to be a muslim terrorist, so *reason* doesn’t get a chance. They will believe it is a muslim terrorist no matter what, very likely even argue that the official investigation is Malaysian government cover-up because Malaysia is an
Islamic state, and then say dumb stuff like “prove it isn’t a muslim terrorist” thinking it makes them look reasonable, even though it is a logical fallacy.

Mar 25, 2014 4:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CSLTRANSPORT wrote:

This is a very delicate and tragic case about missing aircraft and people missing their relatives.
We at CSL Transportation pray god give all the families healing and power to overcome this tragedy. Amen
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Mar 25, 2014 8:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

Something tells me that the “truth” of this matter is far more terrible than the “truth” that the Malaysians are trying to peddle now.

But then….what difference, at this point, does it make now…?

Mar 25, 2014 9:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Pulsamsara wrote:

“QWhy wrote:
They do not want to find this plane.
Question: Why?”

Well – of course – it’s because of the aliens in Kenya who really bombed the world trade center and secretly control even the Illuminati.

Everyone knows that – silly.

Mar 25, 2014 12:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
riposte wrote:

for once, im with the chinese…i want to see some proof..till then, they are in pakistan, or such…

Mar 25, 2014 3:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
roberttubere wrote:

A tragedy like this usually brings out the best in people, but in this particular case, we see pure arrogance in some quarters in US and crass, despicable rudeness and disrespect in China.

Mar 25, 2014 8:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ArmaniBobs wrote:

What Actually Happened;
They Plane was Hijacked by the Terrorist and they were commandeering the Pilots . Their target was like 9/11 but now in Beijing, 7 hours away and the Plane had extra explosives fitted in it as pilots were threatened .
To save the lives of the Thousand The Pilots did a Heroic Job and smartly diverted the plane to Indian Ocean without the terrorist being noticing .
Ultimately after 7 hours of flight, when the terrorist knew that they are dodged by the Pilots and now the plane is in far reaches of Indian Ocean instead of Beijing they killed the Pilots but could not divert the Plane.
Something very very close to this happened.
Dr Imran Ghani obgy777@yahoo.co.uk

Mar 26, 2014 1:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
katina.cooper wrote:

How do we know that this is the real plane? I still think it was landed and is being repainted so it can be loaded with a small nuke and then flown into an embassy so that the next war can be started. We’ll know for certain if metal is brought up from the ocean floor and immediately sent to China to be melted down as was done with the metal from the world trade center buildings.

Mar 26, 2014 9:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
LorenKirkwood wrote:

Why is it that commercial aircraft are not equipped with Distress radio beacons? eg. PLB (Personal Locator Beacon), ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter) or EPIRB (Emergency Position-Indicating Radio Beacon). These are cheap, they float, and could easily be sitting loosely in one or more locations within the aircraft. Or they could be held in place by water soluble fasteners that would release them in the event of a crash in water. That way, they would be likely to be floating on the surface of the water after impact, and would start transmitting location to search teams. Why are commercial airlines relying only on black box “pingers” for location? They sink ! and are hard to find!

Mar 29, 2014 1:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
LorenKirkwood wrote:

Why is it that commercial aircraft are not equipped with Distress radio beacons? eg. PLB (Personal Locator Beacon), ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter) or EPIRB (Emergency Position-Indicating Radio Beacon). These are cheap, they float, and could be sitting loosely in one or more locations within the aircraft. Or they could be held in place by water soluble fasteners that would release them in the event of a crash in water. That way, they would be likely to be floating on the surface of the water after impact, and would start transmitting location to search teams. Why are commercial airlines relying only on black box “pingers” for location? They sink! And they are hard to find!

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