Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane deliberately flown way off course - sources

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ereilad wrote:

As much as one of these planes costs, you would think they could afford a device that relays information to a ground station. It would be easy with modern satellite technology and they could place it so it couldn’t be disabled by the pilots.

Mar 14, 2014 6:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kenradke12 wrote:

This sounds like a possible hijacking to me and its a matter of time before they pinpoint the location. I believe the plane is parked somewhere on the wayward path and when the hijackers are ready they will announce their motives!

Mar 14, 2014 7:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Salsero wrote:

Why is Burma left out of account in requesting radar data ? The plane may have gone there – for instance the area of Bokpyin has a low population density – and there is a 3 km runway. Or the plane might have entered the golden triangle.

Mar 14, 2014 7:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tropic124 wrote:

There are about 50 iphones on the lost Malaysian flight are people trying to track the gps units in these phones? If not why not?

Mar 14, 2014 7:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tatman wrote:

my suspicion is that this aircraft was hijacked and flown (and landed) to the middle east, to be fitted with weaponized components (whether they be fuel, biological, or nuclear)and used as a weapon of mass destruction in an upcoming terrorist attack. as to the fate of the passengers, they are a liability if left alive, or a possible bargaining tool to be used to extort their governments after the attack is launched. with the two stolen passports and iranian citizens carrying them on board, all eyes should turn to iran. this is a very serious situation indeed. i hope to gods i am wrong, but it is looking more and more to me that this is a very well planned and calculated theft. i think the entire world should be on high alert and join together to track this aircraft down — every hour it sits on the ground (if it has inded landed safely) is an opportunity for the terrorists to cover their tracks, hide all evidence, and begin the next phase of their attack.

i also point suspicion at the malaysia, being a heavily muslim country, as someone there has knowledge of this event, and assisted in the abduction of this aircraft.

again, i sincerely hope i am wrong, as the consequences of such an action would be catastrophic to say the least, and could unfurl a disaster not unlike 9-11.

Mar 14, 2014 7:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sinbad1 wrote:

What was the cargo on this plane?

Mar 14, 2014 7:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
UNY wrote:

Sometimes the 5-eyes hacks go terribly wrong. Sometimes they go horrifyingly right…

Mar 14, 2014 7:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChuckRanger wrote:

Hoping the folks are safe, but this could be a real wakeup call for everyone.

Mar 14, 2014 8:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChuckRanger wrote:

Hoping the folks are safe, but this could be a real wakeup call for everyone.

Mar 14, 2014 8:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
1984mumbai wrote:

may be it has diverted to Iraq or iran o r diverted to any other countries.since the stolen passport holders are from iran there is a chance to divert the plane to iran.

Mar 14, 2014 8:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doolie1 wrote:

“Malaysian police have previously said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery”
Well, if any followers of the religion of peace were on board, no need to look further into this!

Mar 14, 2014 8:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Wandle wrote:

Are we looking at a series?

Incident no. 1: May 2013 Air India Flight AI 403. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22528431
Captain accidentally locked out of cockpit. Co-pilot lands plane, jammed door is repaired, plane resumes normal service.

Incident no. 2: February 2014 Ethiopian Air Flight 702. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26222674
Captain deliberately locked out of cockpit by co-pilot, who then flies plane to Geneva and claims asylum.

Incident no. 3: March 2014 Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 370. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-malaysia-airlines-radar-exclusive-idUSBREA2D0DG20140314
Plane appears to have been flown incommunicado for hundreds of miles deliberately on a wrong course.
Could this be another deliberate lockout, for purposes of asylum, or terror, or suicide?

Mar 14, 2014 8:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bryan13013 wrote:

I would like to know why they do not mention the likelihood of all having died (by asphyxiation) and the autopilot (which may have the waypoints programmed into it) kicked it and the transpoder was clicked off in pilot confusion (the weak point of the hypothesis but possible).

Mar 14, 2014 8:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
hunterson wrote:

If this story is accurate, we are possibly dealing with a type of hijacking never seen before.

Mar 14, 2014 8:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
grizzmann wrote:

Some radical Christian group trying to crash into Mecca?

Mar 14, 2014 8:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DeanMJackson wrote:

Google: ‘Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System’

ACARS is a two-way data delivery system that all commercial aircraft are equipped with. It receives and automatically transmits data, meaning Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 never existed, otherwise the aircraft would immediately have been known to (1) be destroyed; or (2) commandeered.

Purpose for the false flag operation, you ask? Simple…to detract from the anti-Communist revolution in the Ukraine, where dozens of statues of Lenin have been toppled, statues that were supposed to have been toppled 23-years ago when we were told the USSR “collapsed”. Well, the USSR didn’t collapse, it merely changed the names on the map, and the under strength Ukrainian security forces aren’t in a position to put down the demonstrations on its own, hence the reason why Russian troops were forced to invade Crimea from their base in Sevastopol.

If you were a Communist official in the USSR, statues of Lenin in the Ukraine only coming down now is very embarrassing, and a proof to those paying attention that the collapse of the USSR was a strategic ruse. The Communist officials would be scurrying to topple this news item off the top of the news headlines.

Google: ‘Krasnaya Zvezda’

“Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian for “Red Star”, the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper’s official designation is, “Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense.” Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era masthead called “Red Star”(!), one of the Soviet emblems including a picture of Lenin’s head, the man who removed the independent Russian nation from the map, supplanting it within the new nation called the USSR, a murderous one-party government that spread violence throughout the world in order to “liberate” the world, and bring into existence a one-world Soviet dictatorship! Those Soviet emblems and Lenin’s head can’t still be next to the masthead of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s newspaper due to their association with the Soviet Union and its ideals of world revolution.

The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Moscow & Allies, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”.

Notice that not one political party in the West demanded verification of the collapse of the USSR, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing! It gets worse–the West also never de-Communiized the Soviet Armed Forces of its Communist Party officer corps, which was 90% officered by Communist Party members! You weren’t aware of these tell-tale irregularities, huh?

Now take a look at what’s still on Aeroflot aircraft…

Google (open the first picture): ‘airplane pictures Aeroflot Airbus A319 VP-BDN’

Note the Soviet emblem of the hammer & sickle stenciled on the Aeroflot aircraft’s

Back to phantom Malaysian Airlines Flight 370…

I also caught CNN lying on this subject in order to convince its readers that there was nothing unusual with the length of time in locating Malaysia Airlines Flight 370…

The CNN article reads (Google: ‘Mystery Malaysia flight may have lost signal, gone hundreds of miles off course cnn international’), “In the case of Air France Flight 447, which disappeared over the Atlantic in 2009, it took five days just to find the first floating wreckage.”

That’s a lie!

Wreckage of Air France Flight 447 was found the next day.

Goggle: ‘Wreckage of Air France Jet Is Found, Brazil Says nyt’

“Wreckage spotted by Brazilian military planes in the Atlantic Ocean is that of missing Air France Flight 447, the Brazilian minister of defense said Tuesday afternoon at a news conference.”

Air France Flight 447 went down on Monday, June 1, 2009…

The caption to the NYT’s picture reads, “An aerial search of the Atlantic Ocean was carried out as part of the search for wreckage from an Air France plane that vanished on Monday.”

Ladies & gentlemen, you have to start paying attention to the details and research everything the media tells you, otherwise you’ll be uninformed 9 out of 10 times.

Mar 14, 2014 8:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TomGenin wrote:

The plane’s transponder wasn’t disconnected to they could turn it to the left and crash it. It was disconnected to fly it somewhere, and land it without anyone knowing.

If it was going to Iran, it had to avoid India, so the path into the Indian Ocean makes sense. Or, if it was heading for Somolia, makes sense.

While it certainly may have crashed, it seems silly and short-sighted to believe that there wasn’t more of a plan given the wilful acts to Hide the plane.

Mar 14, 2014 8:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
dabble53 wrote:

Shouldn’t be too difficult or expensive to remove the on/off switch of the transponder and put a small battery on it in case someone cuts wires. Then add a broadcasting GPS (the GPS is probably already on board) to periodically (like once per minute or even 5 minutes) relay position to a satellite. How hard can it be?

Mar 14, 2014 8:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lfbensimon wrote:

The account by the New Zealander oil rig worker, Mike McKay (http://gawker.com/oil-rig-worker-says-he-saw-flight-370-crash-in-flames-1542226293), onboard the Songa Mercur oil rig, off the coast of Vietnam, on the possible crash of flight MH370 is undisputedly very detailed and is corroborated by the Chinese satellite images of the potential plane crash (both locations match very well). Now a Chinese seismologist (http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1448353/us-suggests-search-missing-flight-expand-indian-ocean-mh370-satellite) tells of an earthquake-type wave that has been detected in the South China Sea, between Malaysia and Vietnam, right about the time when flight MH370 may have crashed according to oil rig worker account, which corroborates even further the theory that the flight had a catastrophic failure and crashed in the South China Sea, some 600-700 miles NE of the Kuala Lumpur international airport, off the Vietnamese coast. This area is also not too far from the point where the plane made last contact with the KL flight controllers. The evidences overwhelmingly points to that area. Why U.S. does insist in the India Ocean?

Mar 14, 2014 8:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wepeople wrote:

What they won’t say is this plane headed for Yunnan area of China, site of the latest Islamic attack against China. The plane and passengers are hostages and the US and Chinese government both know but fear telling the world because of the horrific psychological effect it will have on civilization and the aviation world.

Mar 14, 2014 8:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

Towards the Andaman islands isn’t to the ME. They would still have to fly over Sri lanka and India on four hours of fuel. And there is no way to land on the islands. They are inhabited by very primitive islanders. They were the only people who didn’t suffer greatly from the Tsunami, I recall, and actually came out and shot arrows or spears at rescue helicopters. Whatever they used, they didn’t want visitors.

Who knows, if they crashed on the island and there were survivors the islands might very well have killed them on sight?

The range of the radar is too sensitive to discuss? How nice that military secret can fog the issue. They should reveal it to someone but the Malays may be suspicious that the whole world is on the take and looking to take them over?

How about this as a cause, Andaman Indian Muslim/Christian Fundamentalists, frozen and suffocating, flew the plane to Sri Lanka but until Malaysian radar is improved, Sri Lanka doesn’t exist?

I don’t even know what that means but it sounds about as plausible as any other scenario, don’t it? The biggest point made so far is the plane wasn’t getting the maintenance it required on a regular basis and the airline was trying to over use the aircraft. It fits so will with cultures of graft, payoffs, and careers built on insider connections.

Mar 14, 2014 9:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I’ve been highly suspicious of the pilots from the beginning but you still read almost nothing about them. Why is that?

Mar 14, 2014 9:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

If this was pilot suicide or someone just wanting to kill all the passengers, why fly another 4 hours and hundreds of miles in another direction after gaining control of the plane? Why not just do an immediate nosedive?

Seems the plane was going somewhere.

Mar 14, 2014 9:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

One more possibility: the pilot accidentally entered the wrong code numbers into the autopilot, and then failed to manually verify that the autopilot was doing what he intended. Perhaps the plane then ran out of fuel over the Indian ocean. Of course this idea doesn’t explain why the position transponder was either deactivated or became inoperable.
If this scenario explained part of the incident, then it wouldn’t be the first time a pilot has accidentally entered the wrong waypoint code-number into their autopilot.

Mar 14, 2014 9:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Franfran wrote:

The tracking transponders on planes should be situated where no one aboard the plane can turn it off. It is frightening to think that someone could steal a plane, take to an out of the way airstrip, refuel and load it with nuclear bombs then fly it into some country and blow it up. I mean after all a commercial airline would be less suspicious than a military plane. With all of Iran’s threats it would be just like them to try something like this if they seriously believed they could get away with it. Looking on google-earth the route this plane would have taken if it turned back to the west would have passed over an international airport, it amazes me that a plane could enter their air traffic unnoticed. That in itself poses some serious security issues. I hope new tracking devices will be installed in planes so this does not happen again. I feel so sorry for the family members who are in anguish worrying about the fate of their loved ones.

Mar 14, 2014 9:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Protestant wrote:

It’s feasible the passengers on this airplane were kidnapped to be sold to a human trafficker to be used as sex slaves and/or organ donors. I think the passengers should be listed as missing people and their photographs should be posted and sent to interpol. It can’t hurt to do that, and maybe there’s a smidgen of hope we’ll find them alive.

Mar 14, 2014 9:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
shergar wrote:

I don’t live in the US but have had respect for Reuters and read their web site. I’m not feeling respect for many of the commentators here though.
There is a sad need to run down anywhere not the US as ‘incapable’ or ‘full of terrorists’. Are you all so brain washed over there? Have any of you commenting in this negative way actually been out of the US or do you rely on the propaganda you’re fed daily?
A BBC world report I found today featured some US former member of the NATO panel as saying that the US would not rule out military action against Russia if they interfere with Ukraine. At what point will the US been seen as a ‘friendly’ non invasive and non violent nation?

I have been to many of the places mentioned in the recent comments on this site and can only say that ‘if you had too, you wouldn’t have written so much rubbish’. Try to keep the comments sane if you want credibility, you are reflecting the thoughts of your nation and it’s not exactly a positive image we’re getting over here.
I would like to know why anyone capable of developing a weapon of mass destruction wouldn’t own a plane of their own and would feel the need to hijack one instead???


Mar 14, 2014 9:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Salsero wrote:

Bokpyin airport: a 3km long concrete runway, no mobile phone coverage and, apart from a tiny fischermen village, pretty deserted.

Mar 14, 2014 9:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MrObvious wrote:

This kind of problem could be prevented by having transponders with UUIDs. If flight number data needs to be entered, add a feature for that; but, deactivation just to enter a number? Seriously? The 1960s called, they want their transponders back.
There should be no means available to turn of the transponder of a plane while in flight; and, it should work not only in response to radar, but also in response to remote and satellite pings, include a GPS chip on board and respond with UUID, flight number and GPS data at a minimum.
We need all commercial jets upgraded to prevent them being turned into weapons.

Mar 14, 2014 9:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DeSwiss wrote:

Right. Nice guess. :-/

Mar 14, 2014 9:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yote777 wrote:

I think there may be something to Tatman’s hypothesis.

Mar 14, 2014 9:55am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Has anyone mentioned how much fuel the plane was carrying? What would be the effective range?

Mar 14, 2014 9:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

@DeanMJackson – What you gave up on the Vatican as an arm of the USSR? You are one utterly immune to the obvious. There will always be a USSR for you because you are it’s greatest admirer. Not even Brezhnev believed in Maxism?Leninism, I was just reading that in the New Yorker. He thought it was doomed too.

However, no one seems to be immune to police states.

Why don’t you also consider that people like to fight when times are tough, or even when times are good (but they can take aggression out through business tactics) and they sometimes don’t care what they fight about, they just have to have a let to frustration. They can take little incidents and fan the flames. The Russians and the territories seemed to play with the irresponsible glee of school kids when teacher isn’t looking, after the USSR collapsed. They got mafiosi instead of government. But “teacher” was an overbearing hard ass, rather tiny minded and doctrinaire, that actually retarded the class to be just like Him/Her and valued doctrinal purity above all else. The former soviet system was harsh and brutal at times (they were invaded and horribly treated by the Nazis and still survived) because the threats were harsh and their own lives were very hard. So much of the country were peasant farmers and not given to speculative philosophy. Just because serfdom ended around 1865 doesn’t mean they stopped thinking like serfs. Hitler sent hundreds of thousands or millions of them to the death camps too. Anywhere from 6 o 12 millions, in addition to about 6 million Jews, went to the camps or were executed on the spot.

BTW – I have been thinking about our last discussion almost a year ago. You believe evolution is a hoax too. I couldn’t respond to your last comment before the discussion was closed. It is quite possible our earliest ancestors had the ability to throw things and they could still run fast. All that was found of the earliest homo erectus and homo habilis were skulls and small scraps of bone, as I understand it. All they can really see is brain size. Everything else is conjecture. Evolution probably selected out speed because their ability to throw with accuracy gave them an advantage few other (if any) creatures have and if you don’t use it (fast legs) you loose it. They could throw rocks. That’s a tool no one will ever be able to identify. I can’t think of any other creature that can do that. Some birds know how to drop rocks with their beaks to break open eggs and some species of monkeys can throw things too. So it’s not a skill unknown to simians.

It is possible to build up elaborate theories on wrong assumptions. That was alchemy’s mistake, the earliest attempts at explaining the course of the planets and the nature of the cosmos, a common fault with religion and even of government. In fact it’s a common mistake in all aspects of life.

Mar 14, 2014 9:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rcbutcher wrote:

Anybody with a brain has known this since Monday. The real story is about the Malaysian government.

Mar 14, 2014 10:00am EDT  --  Report as abuse
HamedRad wrote:

Nowadays the inexpensive technology of the cell phones, are providing us access to have a simple navigational system, that can easily and accurately spot our geographic location in a street, with the accuracy of couple of meters or even less than that (in the newer ones).
Now imagine, that a technologically advanced Boeing 777 that values hundreds of million dollars, could be equipped with what kind of improved navigational systems.
Even if we assume that the aircraft has been crashed, the last spot on the radar is known, including the velocity, the trajectory angle, altitude, and everything about it to the very last moment.
Considering all these facts, even calculating the possible radius that the aircraft might have been crashed is easily foreseeable and possible.
Interestingly, none of the many countries contributing and participating in the rescue operation and their navy and planes and most improved technological devices were not able to find anything.
Even the satellites belonging to 20 years ago have the technology possibility that enables them to read a newspaper’s headline in Moscow haven’t been able to spot anything, even one pixel of that giant aircraft.
There is also no explosion, special military thermo sensitive satellites, which are sensitive to any thermo activities and missiles, have not found anything.
I guess it is a new version of Philadelphia military experiment (like 1943) (linked in comments) or even more! The plane is in another dimension, another world and out of earth!
Well, Earth is nothing that a round ball, even a dust in galaxies, and we humans are not the only smart creators in the world.
Maybe that hijacker or that terrorist is not from earth!
In recent days, these were all my thoughts about it

Mar 14, 2014 10:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheRiehlWorld wrote:

Why aren’t Transponders MANDATORY and impossible to turn off? Why on Earth would the airlines allow the Transponders to be turned off? What’s the problem with Transponders? As a result of this tragedy/mystery, FAA and International Law should make Transponders impenetrable (like the Black Boxes) armored and impossible to disable. Why wasn’t this done from the start? What are we missing here?

Mar 14, 2014 10:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
New2Guitar wrote:

Thinking out of the box. Need a delivery system for a stolen nuclear weapon, why not steal a Boeing 777. I guessing Gov’t are laser focused on finding this 777.

Mar 14, 2014 10:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

@ ImaOjibwa wrote:
Cmon! Lets not make it so obvious that marijuana is so readily available and utilized by some of you guys. Captured? BWahahahaha! Amazing how they flew around over under and thru them pesky ol RADARS!

Mar 09, 2014 6:48pm EDT

Written like a true user…

Mar 14, 2014 10:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
willich6 wrote:

Reuters; why are you purposely discounting or not mentioning the lead story in the WSJ again this morning, that MH370 ‘pinged’ satellites with location and altitude for hours after the transponder was turned off? This appears as a very credible story confirmed repeatedly by USG investigative ‘sources’.. There is more ‘data’ on this plane than the Maylasian military radar trace you ‘cite’ as the primary evidence..
If you can’t include all the information on a story; only that info that you ‘wan’t to report – then this is a very biased perspective..
Does Reuters report the news, or ‘manage’ the news to provide a personal perspective like a ‘tabloid’??

Mar 14, 2014 10:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
NBE wrote:

I am hoping this plane landed, and the people on it are alive and will get out of this nightmare sooner than later and home to their families.

Mar 14, 2014 10:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RicardoQueso wrote:

Everything I have read about the waters in the entire region where the plane went missing says they are “relatively” shallow. If that is the case, why have we not heard a single mention of any beacon signal from the plane’s flight data recorder being received by any sensors?

Mar 14, 2014 10:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

ereilad, in answer to your comment, I heard on the news yesterday that new constant tracking information for Boeing planes is too expensive for smaller countries to afford. Profit first you know.

Mar 14, 2014 10:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
crowleykirk wrote:

It landed safe on the ground, I’ve been thinking that all along.
We don’t give the guys credit for being smart… they are. Misguided and brainwashed, but determined nevertheless. It will be used against us at a later date. The passengers are dead or are being used as slaves, for now. A Boeing 777, coming to the White House when we least expect it, lets pray this time we can actually protect the White House. The only thing that saved the White House on 911 from Flight 93 was the passengers of that plane. And our gov. still treats us like crap. Wake up people. Our best interest is not what is on the agenda.

Mar 14, 2014 10:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
whoknowswhere wrote:

well they never did find Amelia Earharts plane either. thats been almost 80 years.

Mar 14, 2014 10:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Walt_P wrote:

If the plane was deliberately flown, they must check the passenger list for whomever may had flight training. If none of the passengers had such training, then the crew is suspect.

Were there any Uighurs or Tibetans on the passenger list? Could it have been flown and secretly landed in western China?

Mar 14, 2014 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I’d check around Andaman Islands, Car Nicobar as they do have an airport there…

Mar 14, 2014 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wootendw wrote:

The plane may have been taken over remotely and flown to some secret location, possibly by US security forces.

Mar 14, 2014 10:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mark1116 wrote:

The Indian Naval Air Station on the Andaman Islands has an 11,000 foot runway. The Boing 777 needs an 11,000 foot runway to land.

Mar 14, 2014 10:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CBoyer wrote:

@ereilad The system you wish for is called ACARS, and it was installed on this airplane. It was either disabled or turned off.

Mar 14, 2014 10:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ChezChez wrote:

Seems like the plane was being flown toward Mecca.

Mar 14, 2014 10:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
crowleykirk wrote:

The pilots are all part of the plan. They landed the plane and made a ton on $$$$. This plane did not crash into the ocean. We have satelites that could find that wreckage… please… the can read your license plate, they can find the wreckage if it was on the ocean. Now if it did blow up mid air over land and a jungle, we may never find it. It would be in so many pieces and scattered throughout the jungle floor. To land it and hide it would be a major victory and extremely hard, but not impossible. It’s to bad how our minds now think because of the terrorist idiots.

Mar 14, 2014 10:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

tatman, The very same idea occurred to me. I hope we’re wrong, but I’m afraid we’re right.

Sinbad1 wrote: “What was the cargo on this plane?”

Ummmmm, people?

DeanMJackson, I think you missed a dose of your medication. Your paranoid delusions are getting the best of you.

Mar 14, 2014 10:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
franknfries wrote:

I heard on Rush yesterday that it was the Chicoms that hijacked it to China. I smell another Obama scandal. What does he know? He has been pretty quiet. Hopefully, Issa calls for an investigation to find out how much Obama is involved. His fingerprints are al over it.

Mar 14, 2014 10:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Tagert wrote:

Sounds like an episode of “Lost”.

Mar 14, 2014 10:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
WayneP wrote:

Is it possible that the plane suffered a Computer Attack? The computer first turned off radio contact, then changed direction flying to a remote ocean location. When the plane ran out of fuel, it “landed” on the water & sank. Is it possible that a country like Iran has done this in retaliation to the cyber attack on their nuclear program centrifuges? Tune in…

Randy Peterson

Mar 14, 2014 11:00am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CanadianMonte wrote:

It is possible the pilot has been paid off to steal the plane. He flies it to which ever radical country, Iran, Yemen, what have you. Now fill the plane with explosives and or biological/chemical weapons and using air traffic confusion, fly it to the target country. Isreal or America. BOOM!

Mar 14, 2014 11:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Nomee wrote:

This story sure has the crazy people in a tizzy. These have to be the most ridiculous nonsensical theories since Georgia’s poisonous government snow.

Mar 14, 2014 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SaveRMiddle wrote:

Tatman’s theory makes sense. This event was incredibly thought out and deliberate. This we do KNOW.

Mar 14, 2014 11:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
O.Aju wrote:

This is a cover-up!

Why would this info come out so late whereas it should have been made available on the first day.
Why would RR and the military not help direct efforts in the right direction?

Instead resources were wasted chasing every rumour.

And one wonders: If the NSA is tapping world leader’s phones, it is strange that there’s no data on the missing plane.

So was it shot down by accident?
If hijacked without demands, who would benefit from it?

Mar 14, 2014 11:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

@ tatman & gregbrew56

I too had the same thought.

Tapping into my small reservoir of geekiness and curiosity I took a map of the area from Google and laid out a flight path to Iran. The path uses the map scale of 500 miles and starts with the known flight path from take off to the point where it’s supposed to have turned west. ASSUMING the plane indeed fly west my theoretical flight path takes the plane south of Shi Lanka then up the Arabian Sea to Iran.

It’s 3000 miles from Kual Lumpur to Beijing. It’s 3909 from KL to Tehran flying direct – which wouldn’t happen as the plane would have to fly over India. My theoretical flight path gets the plane to the coast of Iran in 4000 miles. There are two Military airbases on that southern coast.

So here’s the thing – it’s all fine and good to play around and theorize something like this – it’s another thing to actually pull it off.

Back on March 9 I posted the thought that maybe the plane was “captured” and received a glowing response from fellow commenter named @ ImaOjibwa. He thought such an idea so ridiculous and laughable that he/she was sure I was smoking skunky. Ummm hum – how “BWahahahaha! Amazing how they flew around over under and thru them pesky ol RADARS!”

To make any scenario – like mine and the other drug induced theories – plausible, the plane would have to fly “around over under and thru them pesky ol radars” but it seems from the lack of radar info that the plane certainly did. Either that or…that info is being intentionally withheld and THAT would make this story even more interesting and scary.

Look for chapter two of my novel theories coming soon!

Mar 14, 2014 11:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
scottisatwork wrote:

this is just ridiculous. If any American gets on any plane that is not run by a United States or British airline you deserve to die. What a bunch of bufoons. To think a 777 could go off course and not be noticed for a week is beyond comprehension. It is equally baffling that a plane can still be able to turn off their tracking at all. Any airline that is authorized to land at any US airport or carry US passengers should have to comply with our standards of tracking and flight control.

Mar 14, 2014 11:11am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SupermanCID wrote:

W e are under fictitious story from scientists . How long scientists can do rumour ?

Mar 14, 2014 11:12am EDT  --  Report as abuse
awfulorv wrote:

That plane is in an airport hanger, held by Jihadists, and the people on board are being ransomed. Negotiations are going on as I type.

Mar 14, 2014 11:20am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

A week ago, I said there is a military who knows where this plane was headed because an object that size does not just fall off of primary radar detection. So somebody in the Malaysian or Chinese military was hiding something or overlooking something. And here we are….. “oh yeah, THAT bleeping thing.”

They had the information that night.

Mar 14, 2014 11:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse

If greed, not terrorism, was the motive behind deliberately disabling ATC transponders on this flight, it would explain much about the disappearance of the plane. It’s possible, through “inside knowledge”, that a courier would be traveling to Beijing with rather valuable package worth billions. Nefarious elements, “in the know”, assemble a gang of aviation and avionic experts to pull off an elaborate robbery. The gem of such a plan is the expectation of the plane was landed to be later used for terrorism if information developed that the flight continued after the transponders turned off. Instead, the robbers fly somewhere, perhaps to the Indian Ocean, to rendezvous with an awaiting yacht. After landing the plane on the water, the robbers with their precious package disembark the plane leaving any witnesses still alive to drown inside the sinking plane. …Ever heard of the ‘Great Train Robbery’.

Mar 14, 2014 11:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse

THE KEY: Was MH370 Boeing 777-200ER fueled to fly its maximum range, 7,700nm?

If so, “You are cleared for landing.” Hello Iran, Hello Pakistan, Hello Yemen…

Mar 14, 2014 11:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DetroitChris wrote:

If the plane had the range (and fuel) to hit Isreal then we know what happened.

Radical Islamic Militants took the plane, and knowing that they were dead anyway, eventually the passengers crashed the plane in an attempt to take it back.

Mar 14, 2014 11:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I wonder if SOSUS would be of any use? It was able to detect the sounds of the USS Scorpion and the K-129 being destroyed, and was able to triangulate where they were lost. Would such technology be applicable to a surface type event, such as an aircraft’s impact with the water?

Mar 14, 2014 11:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kowalskiii wrote:

Salsero, Bokpyin seems a realistic site. I wonder if anyone checked that.

Mar 14, 2014 11:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
LedZep56 wrote:

Is this “Lost”?

Mar 14, 2014 11:40am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:


Interesting question – Sound travels far under and over water so the thought that an impact on the surface could be detected at a long distance is a possibility.

Unfortunately we – the common person, will never learn whether SOSUS can or can’t , or did or didn’t hear anything if there was an impact. To reveal that kind of info would reveal the capabilities of the technology that’s surely scattered like a good rug over the bottom of the sea.

I’ll say this – there’s a LOT of info that’s known right now but we’ll never hear it. If this event turns out to be a crash and the “story comes out” it’ll be the story we’re supposed to hear and that won’t necessarily be the 100% truth.

Mar 14, 2014 11:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

From the Strait of Malacca, roughly where the plane was last seen on radar, it is almost exactly the same distance to Beijing (the intended destination) and NW Pakistan.

Mar 14, 2014 11:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ronryegadfly wrote:

The distance from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is 2700 miles. The distance from Kuala Lumpur to Islamabad is 2800 miles.

Mar 14, 2014 11:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse
O.Aju wrote:

It is interesting that many commentators are mentioning Iran and Muslims.
“Nice” world if it was that simple…

The focus should be on why pieces of important information are coming out soo late. Who knows what else Rolls Royce, Boeing and the Malaysian govt. are still holding back.

I cannot see any link to religion or Iran at this time. Prejudiced speculation, based on a specific world view.
One should wait for and concentrate on the facts.

Mar 14, 2014 11:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
xsnake wrote:

Billions spent on surveillance satellites in the past decades and they can’t scan all of the areas in question?

Mar 14, 2014 11:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“…a navigational point used for planes following route N571 to the Middle East.”

Imagine that. Two Iranians with stolen passports and fake names board a plane one night….. and it is unrelated to said plane being mysteriously lost and steered toward the middle east.

Ok we believe you, officials :)

Mar 14, 2014 11:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
a_patriot wrote:

Youre being LIED TO, folks.

I predicted this on my Disqus profile.

SOMEONE knows EXACTLY where the plane is, in the military sphere.

Even corporate sats can do this now.

The US media have been lying by omission claiming the only way to track it is radar, absolutely false.


Mar 14, 2014 11:57am EDT  --  Report as abuse
manoj123 wrote:

Please search in Indonesian mountains and forest for the the flight debries.

Mar 14, 2014 12:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

What brilliance. Fools are not an endangered species. In fact, they are the fastest growing population on earth. Of course this was deliberately diverted. Some commentators on CNN last night seem to take pride in putting for idiotic theories about mechanical failure and pilot suicide while skirting the issue of terrorism. On the other hand, the professor from MIT (the world’s best university) was clear – it is terrorism.

Mar 14, 2014 12:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rch911 wrote:

There must be a manifest listing the contents of the cargo hold. Perhaps there was a transfer of gold or a container of uranium. Maybe the governments involved are so petrified as to the where abouts of the precious cargo, that they are intentionally slowing down the search for the plane. Would China do that? Naaaa!

Mar 14, 2014 12:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

“This is sounding more like 911 that happened on September 11. Now we have missing flight 370 that happened on March 7.”

Best comment ive seen. Hahaha

Mar 14, 2014 12:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Likely a CIA setup to drive a wedge between China and Iran. Most of the passengers on this plane were Chinese citizens. So why else, would the U.S. release the fact that the stolen passports were being carried by ‘Iranians’ before even identifying the two, and then shrewdly dismissing that tidbit as…. “oh that was nothing. Probably.”

The mystery only adds to Chinese frustration, long-term and they grow more suspicious of Iran. More incidents will follow, bombings in Beijing, Hong Kong, all inconclusive but vaguely involving non-verifiable information about Hezbollah or “Iranian” involvement. No real evidence because all involved are dead or fake.

Just a theory.

Mar 14, 2014 12:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Tonylord wrote:

Why would they design commercial passengers modern airplanes with ability to turn off the transponder which keeps track of the plane? Even if they did so why not keep an alternative to have the ability by the airline to track it in all situations like crash or highjacking?

Mar 14, 2014 12:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MikeLitoriss wrote:

China shot down the plane and is still cleaning it up. Just like the US did to flight 93 in Pennsylvania on 9/11.

Mar 14, 2014 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
djltx wrote:

How far could they go with the amount of fuel onboard? Why no attempt to communicate with cell phones the passenger’s carried? Very strange, could have been hijacked and then crashed somewhere. I would check if one of the passengers was a pilot…landing in a jungle is not an easy thing.

Mar 14, 2014 12:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Truthnow wrote:

Perhaps the pilots decided to fly to a remote area of the ocean or non-flight routes to crash the plane into the ocean. The area of the ocean they flew to has few flight routes and few radar towers. Plus, someone in the cockpit turned off both positioning transponders.

Was there any event or problems that happened with the pilots life, family, work history, money problems, etc.

Mar 14, 2014 12:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
VA757 wrote:

If the cell phones of passengers were still ringing after 3 days, as reported, couldn’t they have used GPS tracking to find them?

Mar 14, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ElDiabloooo wrote:

Was Jack Shepard on board? How about Kate Austen, John Locke or Hugo Reyes? What about Benjamin Linus or Alvar Hanso?

Mar 14, 2014 12:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Chazz wrote:

Missing Airliner Chapter two

As promised here’s the second chapter of my “novel” idea of what happened to this plane…

(Disclaimer: This post is meant only to offer ONE “theory” into what happened with this airplane that’s clearly “missing.” Use discretion before you bust my ballz for using my brain to offer a hypothetic for discussion. Remember, before 9-11 NO ONE considered the possibility of a commercial passenger jet being used as a flying bomb, let alone taking over FOUR of them at the same time.)

Okay – In a previous post I theorized the plane was captured. According to a fellow poster I supposedly was smoking weed when I was ‘inspired’ to even think that. Now coked up (because pot was a gateway drug for me) I’m gonna take that idea further…into the realm of fantasy that the plane actually WAS flown to Iran. What then…?

Let’s start with the passengers: Theory – they were incapacitated in some way before the plane began the diversion of its flight path. Learning from the events of 9-11 where one plane was crashed by revolting passengers, any new terrorism plot would have come up with a solution to that “problem.” HOW the passengers were incapacitated I don’t know – some type of gas introduced in the airplane? That approach wouldn’t require additional “terrorists” to carry out, where as putting some drug in food or drink would.

With the passengers out of action in some way they can be searched and ALL cell phones and other electronic equipment could be taken away. This solves the problem of people making distress calls and it also allows for the phones to remain “on” but unanswered, as I believe was reported early on when the plane first went “missing.”

The plane lands in Iran at one of the coastal military airbases. It can be hidden in a hangar safe from the view of satellites tasked with a search.

So here are the problems I see that have to be solved from here. The plane has to be repainted – that’s simple. What country’s marking should be painted on it?

Clearly I’m talking out of my a$$ with this theory because not only am I high as a kite, I have absolutely NO idea what kind of identifier a transponder puts out. Do they have unique codes or a specific number assigned to them that can’t be changed? In civilian terms…a specific number like our Social Security numbers? Can a transponder be “reprogrammed” to show a different number or code or identifier? This would need to be done so the airplane – if/when used again would be instantly recognized as “that missing Malaysian airliner.”

The transponder devices that send into to Boeing or the planes owners/maintenance crew would need to be turned off or reprogrammed as well.

With the plane repainted and reprogramed so it’s not a missing Malaysian airliner let’s theorize the plane would now be able to be employed as a flying bomb. Let’s consider the targets it could be used against….

(Damn this coke is good – I can actually “see” this happening……)

IF the plane is/was indeed captured by Iran (I said “if”) and IF (there’s that word again) it were to be used as a flying bomb the target would need to be close by. The further the target the more chance the plane would be discovered and shot down – after all, everyone would be looking for something suspicious since a 777 is “missing.” The most logical choice of target would be those “despicable” Red Sea pedestrians and crazy-hated Zionists in Israel.

The folks in Israel aren’t stupid so any incoming airliner will have to look and act EXACTLY like a ‘normal’ civilian airliner carrying passengers. So why not create a flight that isn’t a ‘real’ passenger carrying flight. As long as no one sees there are no passengers what’s to say they aren’t there?

(Allow me to divert this fantasy story for a sec to say I was on a flight from India to Greece waaaaaaay back in 1990. For some reason we couldn’t fly direct to Athens – we had to go to London first then board a Greek airliner and head to Athens from there – yeah, it was stupid but I didn’t book the flights. Anyway – we had to stop in Rome to get more fuel to make the trip to London. NO one was allowed to leave the plane. Maybe that was because it was only two days before the attack that was to be called “Operation Desert Storm” so tensions in the Med were higher…I don’t know.)

Anyway, the point of that story was to say it’s not strange for an airliner to land in another country to refuel without disembarking passengers.

Moving forward – lets say the “Kamikaze” airliner flies a seemingly normal flight path that takes it in a round about route to Israel… Let’s say it makes it…..

The rest would be – how do you say in American??….History?

Mar 14, 2014 12:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

If these 230 passengers were alive, we would have seen a ransom demanded by now, or some passenger would have snuck a text out by now.

The plane is either diverted and the passengers were executed, or the plane is crashed and the passengers have perished in that way. It is very sad that the families are being strung along like this.

Mar 14, 2014 1:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
freeokinawa wrote:

More and more people might avoid traveling on Malaysia planes after this episode. Even if not terrorism, the conspiracy theories are enough to sink Malaysian image for a long long time.

Mar 14, 2014 1:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Spazilton wrote:

The fact that the aircraft – if it was MH370 – had lost contact with air traffic control and was invisible to civilian radar suggested someone on board had turned off its communication systems, the first two sources said.

This has to be the most stupid thing I’ve seen in a while. There is nothing on the plane that could be “shut off” to make the plane invisible to radar. The plane is either there bouncing RF energy back to the receiver or it is not.

Mar 14, 2014 1:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MarkWolcott wrote:

Hmm…Diego Garcia?

Mar 14, 2014 1:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hitmon wrote:

Wonder how long it will be before Obama blames Bush again!

Mar 14, 2014 1:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
followmylead wrote:

I think we can go without the Iranian theory. If the plot is gov’t sponsored, Iran Air has 51 planes, including 15+ widebodies.

Stop with the Iran theory. If they wanted to “retro-fit” a plane with explosives, nukes, etc., they would use an existing plane that would check out on radar and divert at the last moment.

Iran doesn’t need to steal a plane.

Mar 14, 2014 1:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chris321981 wrote:

So this plane is a boeing 777 with rols royce engines right, but after 6 days still not a single comment or bit of help from either company. ? I mean come on if ur not helping ur hurting in this one.

Mar 14, 2014 1:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

Here’s something to consider. But it is only saying the field is weakening, not necessarily distorting yet. But pone less credible site claims strange aurora like lights are starting to appear around the world, and not the Aurora Borealis, the only phenomenon that is usually associated with the magnetic filed.

It’s still more likely the plane didn’t get proper maintenance and finally cracked up and the Malaysian airlines doesn’t want to admit to being slobs. But it seems to me, no matter what happened the airlines is culpable. The passengers didn’t arrive at their destination. That’s what they paid for. Malaysian law may not see it that way?

This theory has been mentioned for at least ten years and National Geographic isn’t a junk site.


Mar 14, 2014 1:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CAPaiva wrote:

…more nonsense…as an unidentified radar cross-section return does NOT = MH370. It DOES indicate a force resolution using a typical United States forcing function of “terrorism”…in part to substantiate its own fraud of 11 September 2001. BOTTOM LINE: the plane was on flight path to Beijing…exactly one week after the PRC’s Kunming massacre by Islamists, of Chinese citizens…leading possibly to China either authorizing a strike against the Islamic Malaysian Airlines…or perhaps otherwise taking the plane via Vietnam. With respect to MH370 directly: A. radar return from MH370 2 hours from Kuala Lumpur was abrupt; B. NO COMMUNICATION with the airline occurred before the radar return abrupt cutoff…indicating an emergency. Building ever-expanding theories on a single radar return is less than professional…(to say the least).

Mar 14, 2014 2:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

Enough of the lame guessing games. When it’s actually known what happened then they’ll have a story.

Mar 14, 2014 2:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kalamazoo2 wrote:

I feel very confident in saying that the location of the plane is known but due to military secrecy cannot be divulged without giving away our (USA) capabilities.

Mar 14, 2014 2:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

As the plot deepens..little threads, or clues, start to appear…someone, knows much more than they are telling..would be fun, if weren’t so tragic, involving so many lives..

Mar 14, 2014 2:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sal20111 wrote:

Fact is stranger than fiction. If the plane had landed somewhere, someone would have noticed by now. Whatever scheme the unknown renegade pilots were trying seems to have ended in a tragic crash.

Mar 14, 2014 2:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
patriot1st wrote:

I don’t understand why with all the satelites we have in the sky, why can’t they check the recordings of the sky in that area just before the time they lost communication with the plane to a few hours afterwards? The NSA has to have that information!

Mar 14, 2014 2:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Max17 wrote:

Those darn Amish hijackers are up to there usual tricks.

Mar 14, 2014 4:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
c204 wrote:

i suspect they wanted the plane, rather than the passengers.

imagine if terrorists couldn’t get their hands on a nuke — the next best thing would be to load a large jet full of conventional explosives. the resulting blast would be large enough to do most of the damage that a nuclear weapon could do.

Mar 14, 2014 4:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kalamazoo2 wrote:

let’s see if “they” will post this one: because of Diego Garcia, our military knows exactly where the plane is. But, then, everything that happens on Diego Garcia, stays on Diego Garcia.

Mar 14, 2014 5:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Hello satellite photo checkers, check out the ~8000 foot mud flat on KATCHAL ISLAND. Looks like a wash area from the 2004 tsunami and could be a hard enough surface for a landing.


Mar 14, 2014 5:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Kalamazoo writes: “I feel very confident in saying that the location of the plane is known but due to military secrecy cannot be divulged without giving away our (USA) capabilities.”

It is fun to think so. But recall we are a country that just spent one trillion dollars and 4,000 U.S. military lives to topple a half-wit desert regime that did not own a working helicopter at the time. Iraq was our window into how delusional we are with our ‘capabilities.’

Mar 14, 2014 5:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Kegtapper wrote:

I’m surprised that no phone records were checked, as there is always someone that will not follow directions. And recently that the phones were permitted for use after takeoff. And what about Pings?

Mar 14, 2014 6:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

@kegtapper: “I’m surprised that no phone records were checked”

Uhh… they have been. And no calls, texts or pings. Sadly, these passengers are dead. The question is where. And also, why the Malaysian government is stringing the families along in this bizarre fashion.

Mar 14, 2014 6:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hpbish wrote:

What is the first thing which springs to mind when you hear the words “fake/stolen passports?” Yep. I don’t even have to say it. (dancing Israelis)
They’re not called “the usual suspects” for no reason.

Mar 14, 2014 6:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SmartThinking wrote:

The disabled transponder suggests an intentional diversion. The “accident” theories are having a hard time explaining why a transponder might stop.

Another report notes: “Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the missing airliner climbing to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and made a sharp turn to the west.” If this is correct, then why climb?

If the climb was real and intentional, then one possible reason might be to depressurize the craft and disable anyone without oxygen. It would be necessary to prevent people from using the emergency oxygen masks. There are various possibilities. Even if the emergency oxygen can’t be switch off, it may have limited capacity. And passengers on oxygen masks are tethered in place and in a weak position to resist; a couple of roving bad guys with portable oxygen could walk down the aisles ripping hoses, and it would be hard to fight them.

You’ll recall from 9/11 that some passengers of a hijacked craft were able to make cell phone calls. Those planes were over land, passing above cell phone towers. This incident began over water, where presumably no passenger would be able to make a direct connection to a cell tower. Could anyone have made a call as the plane passed back over land? It’s a thing they might be trying, and might have worked, if they hadn’t been disabled or prevented from acting. So one way or another, the passengers were likely subdued.

The foregoing is theorizing a clear plan at work. Of course, sometimes stumbling lunacy — such as a pilot that goes insane and disables his co-pilot and takes his plane on a wild ride — takes on the appearance of intelligence.

It seems likely that the investigators know a lot more than they’re telling us, and they probably have clearer theories that we’re hearing.

Mar 14, 2014 7:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Did they check to see if it is at Socotra Airport?

Mar 14, 2014 7:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sugah wrote:

Just can’t stop wondering why it has been that not one passenger was able or has been able to get off one text from a cell phone.

Mar 14, 2014 10:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paperpushermj wrote:

Here’s my wild theory:
First was there something of wild value in the cargo hold? Lets say yes.
The Pilot or Co-Pilot incapacitates the other, tampers with the emergency oxygen tank that
feeds O2 to the passengers if their is a decompression. He takes the plane up from 35 to 45 thousand ft, decompresses the plane, killing everyone, cuts all transmissions from the plane so it can’t be tracked/found, sets it on a course to crash in mid ocean never to be found, bails out .

Mar 14, 2014 10:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mike215 wrote:

They claim that the plane was bouncing around the sky from 45000 ft to 5000 ft. That was because the younger one fought the older one for control of the plane and won the battle but did get his goal of crashing into an Indian city

Mar 15, 2014 3:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Now that some actual facts are known the speculation that the pilot that was flying the plane committed suicide and wanted to have a deep ocean might be less likely because after he cut West, the person piloting flew for a full 5 more hours and followed corridors vampi/gival/igrex, which would only be known to an experienced commercial pilot.

Being the aircraft suddenly flew to a higher than normal altitude above 45k feet before it turned West, then down to 23k which is below normal altitude yet not low enough to be flying stealthily, that is intriguing. Pilots can adjust and turn off most equipment to isolate each in emergencies/ fire etc. so is it possible the person piloting took everyone to the high altitude to induce hypoxia (or sadly death as O2 masks cannot deploy if he turned off the systems) or was there a struggle (it went up /down/back to a cruising altitude… that is still a puzzle.

The cockpit door is locked, always, so there should not have been anyone else allowed to enter… but sounds like the F/o was lax before, so he would be easy to distract. Sadly, no matter what happened, it was human intervention, given the plane followed known vectors and didn’t simply vanish right way into the sea.

Sigh… where is that damned plane?

Mar 15, 2014 1:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
skai wrote:

I think it was all very well calculated plan by the pilot and his associate, whoever they may be on board. I believe plane is in the deep blue sea, it might take months or years before we will know the truth.
I have all the sympathy for the families of the missing [ dead ?]passengers.

Mar 18, 2014 7:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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