Turkey shoots down Syrian plane it says violated air space

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Awlright …….. F16 rules

Mar 23, 2014 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wootendw wrote:

Erdogan has been under a lot of political strain lately as indicated by his attempts to ban Twitter and YouTube. The Turkish Lira has plunged and Turkish government bonds yields have soared. Turks are rising up against him and like many embattled leaders, he needs a distraction in the form of an external ‘attack’. That, however, is no excuse for shooting down a foreign aircraft in its own airspace that is under attack from (alQaida and alNusra) terrorists that Turkey has hosted. Perhaps Erdogan is hoping Syria will respond militarily and boost him even more.

Don’t let Erdogan provoke you, President Assad. Take your case to international authorities even though they haven’t exactly been fair to your nation. Don’t give Erdogan what he wants. And keep hitting those terrorists.

Mar 23, 2014 11:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SaltNPeper wrote:

No one knows why plane steered into Turkish airspace. may be making evasive maneuvers to save itself from fire or even a technical problem. It seems to me that Turkish response was bit over reaction.

Mar 23, 2014 12:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Empress_Trudy wrote:

Keeping my fingers crossed for a regional conflict if only to hear Erdogan blame it on Israel like he does everything else.

Mar 23, 2014 12:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

“1,200 meters (1,300 yards) inside Syrian territory.”

That’s not even a mile and Erdogan orders it shot down because it violated “his airspace”? That guys just too proprietary about “his country”. If he stays much longer – he’ll probably want the deed to the country too.

He’s spoiling for a fight.

@Empress_Trudy – Everybody there is spoiling for a fight, just not officially. Every country in the area is probably trying to spin Syria somehow and that’s why Kofe Annan resigned right away. No one was truly interested in a peaceful solution.

Mar 23, 2014 12:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Hakan2014 wrote:

Turkish government banned tweter 2 days ago and today down Syrian flight.Next sunday there is elections in the country.Political tension is very high.We dont want a war to Syria.Everybody is speaking about 25th March,something very important will be posted on tweter which will shake the country and the government.There are a few speculations about it.

Mar 23, 2014 1:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JerryKlen wrote:

@wootendw

I think it is a legit excuse to shoot down an airplane violating your airspace. And I think it has nothing to do with the present agenda of Turkey. Erdogan is not trying to distract. By the way, Turks are not rising up against him. He already has the support of the nation. Trying to coup the current government by montaging some tapes are not legit and it won’t work as they have expected. And the Twitter ban is not aiming to set a dictatorship over the nation. It has some international concerns.

Mar 23, 2014 1:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RiffakLedifni wrote:

the USA will soon take out Assad just to show Putin that USA can do things without regard to Russia or the Arab world. wait for it. it is coming

Mar 23, 2014 2:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

This is a direct attack by NATO. Syria’s enemies have now decided to provide air and artillery support to terrorists. Israel is doing it in the South and Turkey(but actually NATO forces)in the North. Syria’s allies must take measures to defend Syria against NATO attacks.

Mar 23, 2014 3:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jhawke wrote:

“the USA will soon take out Assad just to show Putin that USA can do things without regard to Russia or the Arab world. wait for it. it is coming”

No, we won’t. We have a bunch of in-over-their-head amateurs running the White House who continue, now well into their 6th year of Executive Branch control, to get on-the-job training (and not learn from it).

In any event it’s always nice to see US designed and built hardware knock a Russian designed and built asset out of the sky. Take that Putin!

Mar 23, 2014 3:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
VultureTX wrote:

@paintcan- because the first procedure a jet pilot does is turn tail and launch countermeasures; so of course it landed (barely) in Syria.

@fromkin getting ahead of your IRNA handlers again, calling for Syria’s allies (who besides Hezbollash?) to join in bitter defeat are we. NATO is still the one force that no “ally” of Syria would actually declare against because they are not even in the same force category.
And yes please try to drag in Israel, you do realize that if the Jews ever did take a side in Syria, then their first action would be to take out Iran’s nuclear/rocket program right?

/so tell me fromkin why do you wish for your allies to become “involuntary martyrs” again? And would you care to say this to their face?

Mar 23, 2014 3:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jhvance wrote:

If nothing else, Erdogan really needed a public distraction from his ongoing efforts to cover up his part in the internal corruption scheme that’s been unfolding in the news and Twitter, despite those concerted efforts of his to quash all coverage on it.

Mar 23, 2014 4:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Slammy wrote:

Northern Syria should hold a referendum next week to ask its citiizens if they should succeed from Syria proper. If it passes this conflic, or part of it, could be over. Why not?

Mar 23, 2014 5:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Should Assad choose to act upon the Turkish defence of its soveriegn territory by Syrian fighter bombers, this would ensure that a NATO ally has been attacked-`an attack upon one is an attack upon all`-with effective response militarily.
The American current administration may not be well versed in the art of war, but NATO has been ready for a war since its inception, we should not underestimate how fast a response , and a counter response from Syrias allies could happen.
And for the record,I was a cold war soldier, not a computer soldier, and much of what we were told to look for before a confrontation happenedis now falling into place.
MS.

Mar 23, 2014 5:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
daniel3125 wrote:

A good question would be why is Turkey providing cover for the Islamist rebels? Enemy of my enemy is my friend? Until he becomes my enemy again, stronger than ever before. Then that just makes them complete idiots.

Mar 23, 2014 5:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Fromkin wrote:

@daniel3125

“A good question would be why is Turkey providing cover for the Islamist rebels?”

Turkey is not truly independent. It will do what NATO tells it to do.

Turkey used to be a secular state but that changed when the Generals who were running it at the time refused to be part of “the war on terror”. They all ended up in jail.

@VultureTX

“NATO is still the one force that no “ally” of Syria would actually declare against because they are not even in the same force category.”

NATO has never fought(and won) a war against a serious opponent. Russia is Syria’s ally. NATO is not in the same league as Russia or China in terms of REAL military power(not “sanctions” power). I don’t think a rag tag army made up of Bulgarians, Rumanians, Polish,or even French…could be a threat to Russia or China, let alone both forces combined. NATO is a fictive army that only can be effective against weak Africans and ME countries.

Mar 23, 2014 6:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
VultureTX wrote:

@daniel

Arab saying “Me against my brother, My brothers and me against my cousins, then my cousins and me against strangers”

And surprise, surprise the cousin is Shiite in this case.

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Of course not a surprise to anyone who read Islam’s violent history.

Mar 23, 2014 6:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cirrus7 wrote:

In other news, the “anti-Hitler” Allied Forces rolled further towards Berlin, finding more amd more evidence of massive atrocities against humans born Jewish.

Gassing, torturing, executing on the spot, starving then killing or starving to death while confined, who could do such barbaric acts?

Just ask the “anti-Assad” United Nations about that!

Mar 23, 2014 6:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

@cirrus7 – What on earth are you trying to say?

Mar 23, 2014 7:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cirrus7 wrote:

paintcan, check out this outrageous unprofessional editorializing mid report: “The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said heavy clashes continued…” which then becomes:
“The British-based anti-Assad Observatory said …..”

It is hardly the Observatory’s fault that most of the massacres and flagrant attacks on civilians are done by the regime of Bashar Assad.
Rebel airpower to drop bombs on regime areas, is of course ZERO.

The journalistic standard to use the phrase “activists claim” that the regime dropped huge barrel bombs causing the destruction shown seems silly when the destruction is clearly from a dropped bomb.

Mar 24, 2014 9:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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