Delphi told panel GM approved ignition switches below specifications

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p19 wrote:

It is inconceivable that anyone at GM would approve a part known to be defective. This is a criminal act and should be treated as such. No more bailouts for a company that doesn’t care about it’s customers. They will probably go thru another bankruptcy to avoid having to settle with the families of the people they killed. Pure intentional negligence. If GM goes out of business, who cares. There are millions of other cars to choose from, new and used.

Mar 30, 2014 7:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
p19 wrote:

It is inconceivable that anyone at GM would approve a part known to be defective. This is a criminal act and should be treated as such. No more bailouts for a company that doesn’t care about it’s customers. They will probably go thru another bankruptcy to avoid having to settle with the families of the people they killed. Pure intentional negligence. If GM goes out of business, who cares. There are millions of other cars to choose from, new and used.

Mar 30, 2014 7:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
74LS08 wrote:

If my memory serves me well in 2009 GM took out full page adds in NYT apologizing to american people for making crap and not giving a damn about it. And here 5 years later GM does exactly the same thing…

I guess they fooled oBama all right, ’cause he bailed them out with taxpayers money so they can keep doing the same thing; “Once a whore always a whore”

Mar 30, 2014 9:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GSRyder wrote:

I wonder out loud, if this has anything to do with the GM bankruptcy . In flawed US law, going broke, clears the current corporation of liability, prior to the filing . 2006 they revise the switch, 2009 they go belly up . Watch the US laws work for GM in time …

Mar 31, 2014 6:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
GSRyder wrote:

June 2009, 8 state attorney generals attempted to stop the GM bankruptcy Their concerns, { previous liability issues }. This is part of the public record . If elected government officials in the US could see this coming . The courts must have been looking the other way .

Mar 31, 2014 7:00am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RK_France wrote:

The public hopes that these killers are brought to justice!!
The financial penalties on GM should be exemplary!! These should be more severe than imposed on Toyota!

Mar 31, 2014 8:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Overcast451 wrote:

Between the Union and Executive pay – the company has to find somewhere to cut corners.

Mar 31, 2014 8:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Handbook wrote:

It’s the same General Motors hierarchical, bureaucratic culture that’s existed since the 50′s. Nothing’s changed.

Mar 31, 2014 8:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gcf1965 wrote:

GM did not approve, use some critical thinking. There was some greedy bean counting executive that like drives an import that decided to go forward with the decision to benefit his bottom line and the corporate numbers. Corporations are not inherently evil, it is the decision makers, the flesh and blood of greedy, unscrupulous execs that make these decisions and these people are teh ones that need to bear the cost/consequences. They should never have another job above street sweeper and never be in a position to make another decision.

Mar 31, 2014 9:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
COindependent wrote:

13 failures out of 2.0 million switches installed? Statistically, there is not a hospital in the country that could match that error rate. In fact, there is not a manufacturing company in the country will a non-spec rate of .000665%. It also means that 1,999,987 switches are working as designed.

Is this the DOJ running wild after the Toyota settlement? Are the Democrats looking for any issue they can use to distract American voters from the ACA/Obamacare disaster?

Mar 31, 2014 10:28am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JRTerrance wrote:

“A February 2005 entry in the congressional committee’s chronology illustrates that engineers were grappling with what to do about the defective ignition switches.” (?????)

I have an idea! Replace them! It seems to me they knew how to build reliable ignition switches 70 or 80 years ago. What happened, did they lose their only engineer that could read.

Mar 31, 2014 10:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JRTerrance wrote:

@gcf1965
They should be sent to work on Wall Street. Greed and incompetence are valued and rewarded there.

Mar 31, 2014 10:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mott wrote:

@COindependent – see below.

Only 1 failure in 200 get captured while the rest just get it repaired at other service stations that never gets tracked.

Mar 31, 2014 11:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
chuck2 wrote:

Well kiddies, here is reality of manufacturing world most cannot comprehend, more so since4 mfg mostly left USA a while back. Reality is from high tech to lowest tech mfg, this sort of “decision making” goes on anywhere anything is built, here, across globe.
Every industry runs into same issue to some degree, a part is not correct, ran out of stock, will not meet mfg schedules, etc. Engineers get reports on issue, or production planning, buyer-engineers look at lead time for replacements, fixes/recalls, inline changes. It is very expensive to company to “put in new part, more then most understand. Logistics type calculate failure rates, repair rates etc. Engineers look for core issue, fix or replace, find vendors for part etc. Since most have never worked in mid-upper levels of mfg management they have no idea of how complex issue being presented. Even replacement part has to be tested, as do fixes.
Someone has to decide on fix, let it go, replace and impact on the bottom lines. Like it or not that is the reality, WS/banks punish heavily and others, for mfg delays. Vendors want premium money to change/fix, but someone somewhere up the line makes final decision. How good/accurate facts presented to them by what is often called “corp filters” is hard to measure and upper end often does not get clear idea of issues, such depends on quality of staff and upper end style-priority. Stop line for fixes, WS/Banks/stockholder get real upset, as their only interest is profits/stock value, nothing else. Often regulatory agencies get lots of political pressure n how to move, that is undisclosed reality by all involved.

This whole thing is a mess, but the reality of manufacturing, more under the controls of WS/Banks/Investors and sometime politicians, leads to such situations. Those who find such issues, their only job is to accurately present them to management, and hope the fact finding filters do not wash out the data. Good bet is when such finally comes out, usual crowd of pols, writers, media and uninformed will jump up and down, demand heads on platter etc. We can only feel great sorrow for the victims, family and friends. But now days with “Bottom liners/WS/Bankers/Greed/Profits and Pols all mixed together.
We can fully expect such to happen again, from hi tech to low tech, a universal problem, more so a drive for profits in USA has become not a mfg issue, but a legislature issue where legislation, not business acumen determines wealth.
Get used to it, the days of “But we cannot do or allow that” is gone, replaced by “But it will hurt stock values”. These are not truly evil people running the plants, it is WS/BANKERS/”Investors” and “Forecasters”, who decide such things in the final analysis

Mar 31, 2014 12:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Robert76 wrote:

Overcast451. Love how you throw the Union under the bus on this. How do you even know if Union labor was involved in building the cars with the faulty switches. All 3 of our big auto manufacturers build a lot of cars in Mexico’s trade free zone, and they are marketed as American built cars instead of imports. But keep up the anti-union rhetoric. Even a Union Built car has less than 10% labor costs in the price of the car. Simple greed on the part of those making the decisions to use substandard parts is the one and only cause!

Mar 31, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Robert76 wrote:

Now that the Supreme Court says that a Corporation is a person, let’s see someone put GM in jail for negligence in the deaths of consumers affected by these substandard parts!

Mar 31, 2014 12:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
John1980 wrote:

This is what happens when you bailout a failure of a company. They continue to fail. Thanks for wasting the taxpayer money on the loss Congress.

Mar 31, 2014 3:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
John1980 wrote:

This is what happens when you bailout a failure of a company. They continue to fail. Thanks for wasting the taxpayer money on the loss Congress.

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John1980 wrote:

This is what happens when you bailout a failure of a company. They continue to fail. Thanks for wasting the taxpayer money on the loss Congress.

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