Ex-Ku Klux Klan leader charged in Kansas Jewish center killings

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bear87 wrote:

Funny that Bromback says he will pursue justice aggressively. To bad he doesn’t do that for everyone in his state.

Apr 13, 2014 8:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
OIFVetAtUSC wrote:

I have a feeling that FBI and police investigators are going to get a lot of meaningless pycho-babble and meaningless drivel from this guy. Like Adam Lanza and Jared Loughner, he was conversing with “voices in his head” who told him to go berserk.

Apr 13, 2014 8:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
msdds1 wrote:

Let us not trivialize the Fact that the KKK is still alive and recruits the young as well as the ” old ” with voices in their heads. The young are the ones who will see and take notes.

Apr 14, 2014 1:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jay_Hanig wrote:

“Might be anti-Semitism”? Whatever would make them think that?

Apr 14, 2014 4:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
FRPSR wrote:

Raising an issue through the cryptic involvement of inference , implying a greater wrong without stating the issue , the wrong , or the parties involved is a favorite technique of psychological operations . A whispering campaign as documented in one of the Muppet Movies . Yes indeed schoolyard techniques work on crowds .
Psy*Ops can be used by anyone on the unsuspecting , or the inexperienced . Better to just say what you mean without hiding behind allusion . That way the choices you offer won’t be hiding , they will be open to the judgement of the people you are attempting through inference to discomfit through Fear , Uncertainty , and Doubt .
The tools of the imperial court from the beginning are to divide and separate for control , and direction .
What better way to infiltrate than with control and direction stirring issues through Fear Uncertainty and Doubt-FUD ?
When you have nothing , say nothing . There is a greater price to pay than having nothing to contribute . That would be tearing something apart , not only because you can , but because you think you are too good to dirty your self speaking to those you would beguile , rather than befriend .

Apr 14, 2014 6:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kitty1kitty wrote:

The modern “KKK” is an FBI operation. If three “KKK” members get together, chances are that two of them are FBI informants.

Apr 14, 2014 8:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BlueOkie wrote:

Hate crimes!!!

Apr 14, 2014 10:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeken wrote:

“A leading ‘anti-hate’ group.”

The SPLC has shown plenty of “hate” towards people who, say, want their borders secured. They’ve got a pretty low “hate” threshold, it seems.

Apr 14, 2014 10:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
moosemyfrnds wrote:

weird that a KKK member would kill Jews

Apr 14, 2014 10:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse

really… you could not figure out it is hate crime or not… vow… a klan member goes into synagogue and kills 3 innocent people and it is early… burn him on a cross… send him to israel… they will punish him accordingly…

Apr 14, 2014 10:59am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TruthFair wrote:

Hang’em higher

Apr 14, 2014 11:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“The fact that these sort of despicable acts are still carried out in the U.S. shows that Nazism is deeply rooted in the American psyche.”
- ADVOCATUS

Funny, I was just thinking the reverse. This is the first occurrence of its sort that I can recall in quite a long time. In a country of roughly 315 million, that blatantly race/religion-based shootings like this occur as rarely as they do shows that such extremist ideologies are NOT rooted deeply in the American psyche as a whole. . .but rather are isolated in the minds of a few unhinged individuals.

Apr 14, 2014 12:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

Thank you, Yashmak. A voice of reason. We only hear the “bad” news, because it generates more click-throughs.

Apr 14, 2014 12:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Lkeavey wrote:

Ironic that none of those killed were Jewish.

Apr 14, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Lkeavey wrote:

Ironic that none of those killed were Jewish.

Apr 14, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeken wrote:

“Not openly discussed,” LOL.

Every day seems to be “call someone a Nazi” day around these parts. Or call ‘em a “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobe,” blah blah bleh.

Not surprising, considering that political correctness, the de facto official ideology of the modern West, is reheated Marxism.

Apr 14, 2014 1:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
timebandit wrote:

20 years in the Army, Green Beret. Dropped out of high school to join up.
You can parse that out from the KKK membership.
Uneducated white males join the military because they are lost, unemployed, despondent and with no hope for their future, other than being a paid killer warrior. Blacks and latinos join to get a leg up in society and become legal citizens, respectively. Different goal and mission than the angry white guys – who stay that way.

Apr 14, 2014 1:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

If a guy with this type of hate filled history can get a gun in this country, then something needs to be done. Interested to see what weapon he used and how it was obtained.

Apr 14, 2014 1:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeken wrote:

Looks like we’ve got a cognitively-challenged public school waste product representin’ here.

Those “uneducated white males” are also “legal citizens,” dumba-s.

Truth be told, most join to serve a country that isn’t theirs anymore, that is positively opposed to their interests, and that wages wars that don’t benefit them.

And I’d bet that your typical “uneducated” white male is more “educated” than your typical black or Hispanic.

Apr 14, 2014 1:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

The accused gunner might have been in prison, according to reports, but he had previously ratted-out on over a dozen wanted white supremacists, in a plea deal that kept him out of prison… those he ratted on went to jail.

The authorities had let this guy off the hook, in exchange for his testimony… the armed and dangerous hater was a human time-bomb.

This white supremacist is not only filled with hate, he is also profoundly stupid; the problematic US-Israel “special relationship” has been strengthened by this senseless act of brutality.

Just when more Americans were experiencing “sympathy fatigue” for the “oppressed” Jews of Israel, who are now oppressing the stateless Arabs of Palestine, this nut-job comes along… from an Israeli propagandist’s viewpoint, his timing was perfect.

Apr 14, 2014 2:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Let’s not jump to conclusions here. White supremacist? Anti-Jew? Look at who he shot – two white Methodists! And wasn’t the third victim also white and non-Jewish?

Apr 14, 2014 2:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Obviously, the gunner wouldn’t know a Jew, if he saw one; apparently, none of his victims were Jewish.

Sadly, in a nation this size, we have hundreds, if not thousands of profoundly ignorant folks like this shooter – people who wallow in race-based hate – and are exercising their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

Apr 14, 2014 2:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

@NortheastReader:

The man organized a KKK unit twenty years ago… the gunner targeted two Jewish facilities, on the eve of Passover… and according to several reports, he yelled, Heil Hitler”, as he was being stuffed into the police car.

Still, you wrote, “Let’s not jump to conclusions here. White supremacist? Anti-Jew?”

You are kidding, right? Or are you defending the gunner?

Apr 14, 2014 2:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

@new_york_loner, pray, how do you know a Jew by sight?

Apr 14, 2014 2:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Naksuthin wrote:

Hardly a week goes by without a new report of ANOTHER mass gun killing by some lunatic. And Americans are still trying to
figure out the solution to these gun shootings:. Is it
“more guns”, “less guns” , “more mental heath care”, “more religion”,
“less bullying” , “more armed guards” etc.

Hey, Americans!! Just Look around you at the rest of the world.
Every other developed country in the world has ALREADY figured out how
NOT make gun massacres a monthly news event.

England, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Japan, Canada, Australia, South Korea, Taiwan, China, France,
Germany…all the other developed countries of the world DON’T have
these monthly shootings. Only in the USA have these monthly gun
massacres become a regular ritual.

Why?
It’s simple. Because other countries take gun ownership SERIOUSLY. People can’t just
walk into Guns Galore and buy a shotgun or semi automatic assault rifle… like a 6 pack of beer.
Meanwhile….owning a lethal weapon in the US is a JOKE. Anyone can own a gun….”raging racists”. the mentally insane, the
blind, drug addicts, alcoholics, suspected terrorists, people with anger
management issues, 4 year old toddlers, even people who don’t know
which end of the gun is front…ANYONE..can own a weapon that can cause
mass destruction.

And Americans still can’t figure out why they are the only developed country on earth with monthly gun massacres?

When other advanced countries around the world have already solved a problem that
Americans still keep having month after month…year after year…and
Americans still can’t figure out why they are the only one left with the
problem.– It’s probably because Americans don’t have enough common
sense to learn from other people.

They have to keep making the same mistake over and over again.

It’s called STUPIDITY.

Apr 14, 2014 2:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GalacticCat wrote:

Ah the American Dream that our political propaganda system talks about.
And our national manipulating media milks dry , if its about a religious sect like the Jews. The facts are, that since 9/11 over 175,000 Americans or residents of the USA have been killed (murdered) in the USA by fellow residents. That is like having four to five 9/11 events happen every year in our so called Land of the Free….. Think about it people….

Apr 14, 2014 3:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@USAPragmatist2

“If a guy with this type of hate filled history can get a gun in this country, then something needs to be done. Interested to see what weapon he used and how it was obtained.”

So now you are going after people with a “hate filled” history. Exactly how do you identify that? The man was in his 70s. What difference does it matter what gun was used and how he obtained it. How about we start addressing the issues of the hate. The left is pushing anti-semantic views via Palestinian support now a days, I guess they share that in common with the kkk and neo-nazis.

Apr 14, 2014 3:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

@thenewworl, we also support Isreal with ton of military money. Supporting and acknowledging the plight of the Palestinian people is not being anti-Semitic.

@nahkutsin, a large % of us have figured that out! it is just that a moneyed vocal minority has been able to block any reasonable propose to enact sensible gun control.

Apr 14, 2014 3:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeken wrote:

The way the word “hate” gets bandied about, it’s like listening to a bunch of twelve year-old girls pretending that they’re thinking.

Of course, glorying in “old white men” dying off never gets tagged as “hate,” from local free sheets up through the major news organs, even though those OWM supposed run things. Strange.

Truth be told, there are a lot of things that merit “hate.”

Apr 14, 2014 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

just another ignorant, hate filled, pig… who probably should hate himself the most…give him the chair and let him go down forever, to the flames, where he belongs…

Apr 14, 2014 4:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

This man is a NAZI who committed MURDERS and the Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of US troops in WWII. Let’s not trivialize this. Hitler was also criminally insane as were the entire NAZI leadership.

Apr 14, 2014 4:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Dr_Steve wrote: “@new_york_loner, pray, how do you know a Jew by sight?”

I never said that one could tell who is Jewish, or not, simply on sight. The gunner thought that he could identify a Jew on sight, but, obviously, he was dead wrong… that was my point, Doc, the guy was just plain stupid.

As we know, Judaism is practiced by people of various ethnic backgrounds. The claim that Jews are a distinct “people” is quite dubious… the ancient Hebrews were a people, today’s Jews, not so much.

Apr 14, 2014 4:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sebek wrote:

I wonder if there is any connection between the Tea Party rhetoric and hate crimes by White supremacists……

Apr 14, 2014 4:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Naksuthin wrote:

Hardly a week goes by without a new report of ANOTHER mass gun killing by some lunatic. And Americans are still trying to
figure out the solution to these gun shootings:. Is it
“more guns”, “less guns” , “more mental heath care”, “more religion”,
“less bullying” , “more armed guards” etc.

Hey, Americans!! Just Look around you at the rest of the world.
Every other developed country in the world has ALREADY figured out how
NOT make gun massacres a monthly news event.

England, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Japan, Canada, Australia, South Korea, Taiwan, China, France,
Germany…all the other developed countries of the world DON’T have
these monthly shootings. Only in the USA have these monthly gun
massacres become a regular ritual.

Why?
It’s simple. Because other countries take gun ownership SERIOUSLY. People can’t just
walk into Guns Galore and buy a shotgun or semi automatic assault rifle… like a 6 pack of beer.
Meanwhile….owning a lethal weapon in the US is a JOKE. Anyone can own a gun….”raging racists”. the mentally insane, the
blind, drug addicts, alcoholics, suspected terrorists, people with anger
management issues, 4 year old toddlers, even people who don’t know
which end of the gun is front…ANYONE..can own a weapon that can cause
mass destruction.

And Americans still can’t figure out why they are the only developed country on earth with monthly gun massacres?

When other advanced countries around the world have already solved a problem that
Americans still keep having month after month…year after year…and
Americans still can’t figure out why they are the only one left with the
problem.– It’s probably because Americans don’t have enough common
sense to learn from other people.

They have to keep making the same mistake over and over again.

It’s called STUPIDITY.

Apr 14, 2014 4:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
APS44176 wrote:

“@Dr. Steve wrote; @new_york_loner, pray, how do you know a Jew by sight?”

Good point. Here, the shooter apparently asked people if they were Jewish before opening fire. However, since Jews are known to deny being Jewish when they’re about to be shot in the head, he probably assumed they were lying.

Apr 14, 2014 4:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Cleveland2012 wrote:

These days every institution needs armed security. That is just the way it is. Trained and ready security personnel working under a strong security plan can prevent disasters like this.

Any organization that is likely to be targeted by a hate group or a crazy individual needs to pay attention to this event. This kind of hate-driven violence is a feature of life in the US, and everyone might as well accept that and take precautions.

Apr 14, 2014 4:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wata3001 wrote:

Yawn.

Apr 14, 2014 4:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Zeken wrote: “The way the word “hate” gets bandied about, it’s like listening to a bunch of twelve year-old girls pretending that they’re thinking.” (end quote)

That statement sounds like something that a male chauvinist pig would say.. but he didn’t stop there; he went on to write: “Of course, glorying in “old white men” dying off never gets tagged as “hate,” from local free sheets up through the major news organs, even though those OWM supposed run things.” (end quote)

The media does not label “glorying” the death of old white men, as hate, because very few, if any old white men are deliberately targeted, simply for being old, white and male.

If Zeken has difficulty labeling this man as a hater, we can conclude that Zeken is probably one too.

Apr 14, 2014 4:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeken wrote:

Glorying in “old white men” dying off as a group, which any twelve year-old girl could see was my meaning, is pretty much a national pastime.

Apr 14, 2014 4:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mylena wrote:

I can not believe!!!! The Justice is discriminatory right now? The one that killed people in aurora Theater is a coucou. Lanza was a coucou And right now because his past, he’s a hate social criminal? He could be a cou cou too. According my record.So, my statement: because somebody heard him to say Heist Hitler right now he’s a criminal not cou cou?

Apr 14, 2014 5:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Can we just call the KKK a terrorist organization, which it evidently is, and get it over with?

Apr 14, 2014 5:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

Just another bundle of genetic waste material with access to implements of destruction suitable for one of limited worth. We all know that even the lowest form of human life can manage to point and shoot, unfortunately for those caught in the crossfire.

Apr 14, 2014 5:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Loucleve wrote:

The SPLC is a Hate Group. If your white, and have anything to say about Israel or are negative on mass 3d world immigration, you are a Hater.

That is why the FBI just dumped them from their website.

Apr 14, 2014 6:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ogsrun wrote:

Yes, he certainly is of a superior race. You can tell that just by looking at his masculine ideal physique. And of course there’s his intellect in the fact that he killed people who he would probably sit next to at church.

Apr 14, 2014 6:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SmartThinking wrote:

Well, they dropped the SPLC page from their website, but it seems to be for other than political reasons. I thought that one was too good to be true, and it was.

The SPLC is still a fully functioning organ of the political police.

Apr 14, 2014 7:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

This fruit-cake posted over 12,000 times on the Nazi website, VNN Forum, as “Rounder.” He also was the circulation manager for their newspaper.

Apr 14, 2014 8:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

So, Loucleve – are we to assume then that you are on SPLC’s list, based on your own factless statements?

Apr 14, 2014 9:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

TheNewWorld: “The left is pushing anti-semantic views via Palestinian support now a days, I guess they share that in common with the kkk and neo-nazis.”

Did your brain get a hemorrhage as you tied it in knots to make that outrageous association? That would be funny…if it weren’t so desperately pathetic.

Apr 14, 2014 10:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

Reductio ad Hitlerum

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Zondromarb wrote:

Hate without reason is convinced hate. The U.S as a whole needs to stop
the nonsense with protecting outward hate in the name of Freedom of Speech and take a stand for those who want peace. No lessons seemed to be learned after millions were executed,hundreds of thousands of American troops were sent to fight in WW2 which Hitler was a major influence in, and these lunatics still form Nazi Groups and honor Hitler. They are all a bunch of disturbed indoctrinated copycats who don’t know the meaning of hate or of loyalty or of patriotism. It’s time America wake up and break up these hate groups, commit them to rehab, or at least lock them up so they can’t do any harm and stop waiting for tragedy of innocents paying a higher price than the haters will ever pay. Stop “rising above” and refusing to “sink down to the hater’s level”. Never just let a dangerous criminal go free as a bird. Absolutely Ridiculous.

Apr 15, 2014 1:59am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Philip_Smith wrote:

How can one identify a jew in the first place?

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rghtuner wrote:

The executive is funding and enacting these religious based violence acts against the Jewish people and has for a long time –
Quota profiling decided the fate of these Jews -On 4 June 1939, having failed to obtain permission to disembark passengers in Cuba, the St. Louis was also refused permission to unload on orders of President Roosevelt as the ship waited in the Caribbean Sea -
1945 Dartmouth College openly admitted and defended a quota system against Jewish students -To limit the growing number of Jewish students, a number of private liberal arts universities and medical and dental schools instituted a quota system referred to as Numerus clausus. These included Harvard University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Yale and Boston University.
Several political components come to mind -
1. On April 3, 2006, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights announced its finding that incidents of antisemitism are a “serious problem” on college campuses throughout the United States. The Commission recommended that the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights protect college students from antisemitism through vigorous enforcement of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and further recommended that Congress clarify that Title VI applies to discrimination against Jewish students
2. America’s Nazi Secret with Author John Loftus video at info wars. ( Video – )
John Loftus and his disclosure of terrorist money laundering schemes in the U.S. that appear to be backed by the US. Such as VIN numbers from cars being used in these programs showing up in the middle east in soldier bombings , the employment of terrorist as college professors by our government and the fact that the mastermind of terrorism ,Haroon Rashid Aswat was acting as a Double Agent For MI-6 and allowed to run amuck in America as well.
3. Information from the article Why is Israel Losing the PR Battle At American Campuses? Herbert London – April 9, 2014
Not only did Said have a well endowed chair at Columbia, he was the architect of the university’s Middle East Studies Program which is notoriously anti-Israel. Of course, Columbia is not alone. Saudi money was given to Georgetown, Yale, UCLA, and others.
4. America’s concurring history of anti Semitic behavior is far more expansive than what’s being reported in the papers. From 1979 to 1989 the ADL recorded more than 9,617 antisemitic incidents, including 6,400 cases of vandalism, bombings and attempted bombings, arsons and attempted arsons, and cemetery desecrations.
Their were 2,066 reported Hate Crimes committed against Jews in in 1994.
5. See – History of antisemitism in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
6. What the British did then, they sold the Arab Nazis ( Muslim Brotherhood to the predecessor of what became the CIA. –
From the article – The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda -By John Loftus, Jewish Community News 4/10/06

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