Ukraine president calls for new anti-rebel offensive as crisis deal falters

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ramsglen wrote:

Hey Joe! Tell them this really a BFD….

Apr 22, 2014 11:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

The more the Pres and the veep talk, talk, talk, the more ridiculous they become.

Apr 22, 2014 11:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

Mr. Putin has the CEOs of Shell Oil and Exxon oil on his side, along with most of the other top 1% global financial elite with no social conscience who only want to profit from Russia’s resources. No wonder he is ignoring the United States. Time to kill the BIG corporations who stole OUR resources for personal gain and are now trying to destroy the goose that laid the golden eggs they are stealing. VERY short-sighted.

Apr 22, 2014 12:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
beofaction wrote:

Obama= impotent and clueless. Biden: shameful joke – even for a politician. Who votes for people like this? Putin will have his way

Apr 22, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ProEto wrote:

Putin plays the Administration like his own accordeon. They can’t even outweigh a thug like him in public opinion polls. His support is over 80% in Russia. What’s Joe Biden’s in the US? And then this Ukrainian prime minister, he actually looks like a White House intern. “There will be consequences” Like what, Kerry will ban Heinz kechup for Russians?

Apr 22, 2014 1:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ProEto wrote:

Putin plays the Administration like his own accordeon. They can’t even outweigh a thug like him in public opinion polls. His support is over 80% in Russia. What’s Joe Biden’s in the US? And then this Ukrainian prime minister, he actually looks like a White House intern. “There will be consequences” Like what, Kerry will ban Heinz kechup for Russians?

Apr 22, 2014 1:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

It’s time for Ukraine to send in the drones and tear gas to punish the paid Russian mercenaries who have illegally invaded Ukraine. Putin has gone too far!

Apr 22, 2014 1:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

@njglea: Ditto! No wonder why Bush once was Putin’s soul mate. They both sold it for petrodollars.

Apr 22, 2014 1:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

@beofaction: I am sure you are ready to go fight with Russia. :)

Apr 22, 2014 1:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whys333 wrote:

Putin is a spoiled child throwing a temper tantrum because his pride has been hurt and none of his neighbors like him. Putin is playing a very risky game for little gain because he has run out of other options and is now acting out of desperation. Russia’s current GDP is one sixteenth of Europe and the US combined, and literally half of Russia’s national budget is paid for by gas and oil revenue. While Putin may be able to find a few buyers to the East, Russia can’t hope to get ahead on the global stage by ignoring the two largest, productive, and energy hungry economies on the planet.

Apr 22, 2014 2:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
eagleboy wrote:

The time that’s running short… is for them ‘cone-heads’ to get back to Europe, before they gets their necks stretched…!

Apr 22, 2014 2:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
glovergirl wrote:

I love Putin. He is a great chess player. But we tend to forget that a State no matter how centralized is guided by a group of advisors. My bet is on Russia which is great at game theory.

Apr 22, 2014 2:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
searider wrote:

Talk is cheap !

Apr 22, 2014 2:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
searider wrote:

Talk is cheap !

Apr 22, 2014 2:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JPHR wrote:

Biden’s most productive contribution would be offering Yats a visa or new passport like for Saaskhavili.

Apr 22, 2014 2:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
KyleDexter wrote:

Wow, Putin has played his cards so well that he is the most powerful man in world.

This is what the West gets for tampering with Ukraine’s government. The West orchestrated the overthrow of Yanochovich, now they wonder why Russia is stepping in. Its called “Russian Interests”.

You know like the way we have “interests” in supporting an apartheid regime in the holy lands and group of organ eating terrorists in Syria.

Good for you Russia!

Apr 22, 2014 3:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyanitsa wrote:

If as Kissinger says “The objectives of diplomacy are end results” and if what the State Dept does can be called “diplomacy”, what end results did the State Dept expect when it supported and directed the Euromaidan in illegally overthrowing the elected government of Ukraine? Did anyone at the State Dept ask what the consequences were of violating the Ukrainian Constitution? Would it not have been better and less costly to wait until the next scheduled national elections which were due in two years anyway?

Apr 22, 2014 3:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SirSmitty wrote:

Oh good, now we have the russian mob involved doing hits on Ukrainian nationals…or is it russian SOF? No matter, they are the same in tactics and morals.

Apr 22, 2014 3:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
2Borknot2B wrote:

” A $1 billion loan guarantee already signed with Washington, the package serves to show “support” for the new authorities following the overthrow of the Kremlin-backed Yanukovich (The rightful president none the less, who would have been leaving in May) in February.”

How are the banks going to open up credit to show support for American Citizens? Why are the interest rates on housing going up? You can NOT blame that on the lowering of bond buying, which needs to be reduced further, so don’t even try. The bankers may be pushing up interest rates as punishment, STOP IT, and pull the rates back down!!! L.

Apr 22, 2014 3:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
racc wrote:

Most Americans could care less about Ukraine. Probably more support for Putin than for Obama among Americans.

Apr 22, 2014 4:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
2Borknot2B wrote:

glovergirl wrote: “I love Putin. He is a great chess player. But we tend to forget that a State no matter how centralized is guided by a group of advisors. My bet is on Russia which is great at game theory.” Not really, they are OK at game theory, intermediate at best, they have a long way to go before the master. L.

Apr 22, 2014 4:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

If the Eu and the US are afraid to “antagonize” Putin, then it’s game over. I suppose when he takes over Germany, the Eu will again consider restricting a few visas. You know, nothing to upset Putin.

Apr 22, 2014 5:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

> brutally tortured
Of course this is the rasPutin’s message to the interim president of Ukraine – in case the invasion by Russian troops and dead Ukrainian soldiers does not speak loud enough. rasPutin’s message to the world and Ukrainians is F you. rasPutin’s message to Russians is get rid of your visa and mastercard, Russian will make credit cards for you now, since rasPutin is at war with the world.

Apr 22, 2014 5:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
brd893 wrote:

It is amazing that Churkin expresses that it would take time to implement the Geneva agreement. However Putin moved at warp speed to annex Crimea. Crimea will choke Putin and Russia in the years to come.

Apr 22, 2014 5:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
1DukeZ wrote:

Let them laugh. Vlad won’t know what hit him when Bary’s BS bomb hits.

Apr 22, 2014 5:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UScitizentoo wrote:

rasPutin is at war with the world. He will make visa and master card credit cards now, and Russians can buy Lada’s. rasPutin will tell the world what to do to save hi precious soviet union II abortion.

Apr 22, 2014 5:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ARJTurgot2 wrote:

At its current burn rate of over $1B per month, $50M will shore up the government in Kiev for 36 hours, except that ear-marking $11M cuts that down by around 20%, so around 28 hours. That’s really going to give Putin pause. Really, Truly.

Apr 22, 2014 5:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sinbad1 wrote:

With all the other problems the US has, you have to wonder about the wisdom of getting into a fight with Russia at this time.

Apr 22, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sinbad1 wrote:

With all the other problems the US has, you have to wonder about the wisdom of getting into a fight with Russia at this time.

Apr 22, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jim_seattle wrote:

It’s amazing to me that the Western media acts as if the Geneva agreement specifies that the Russian rebels must disband. There is no wording in the agreement singling them out. It covers all of Ukraine, including Kiev. There is no movement on either side of the country.

Apr 22, 2014 6:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

The first offensive failed because Ukraine’s best troops refused to attack Ukrainian civilians, despite the words of Kiev. The OSCE has gone into Ukraine and said words. Kiev has not had time to train more troops adequately, so this second offensive will consist of words. The only forces that could conduct the necessary successful operations are Russian troops, but the US and EU don’t want Russian troops in Ukraine, so the US and EU will say strong, forceful words.

The US is giving Ukraine a $50 million loan and a $1 billion loan guarantee, so the US can guarantee repayment of the $50 million US loan. Ukraine owes private banks in Austria, Germany, Italy, Greece, and Portugal $200 to $250 billion in addition to $55 billion that it will owe to the EU and IMF when current plans are in place. Without infrastructure projects and actual business contracts, it is likely that Kiev will repay the US, EU, and IMF with words.

Apr 22, 2014 6:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
edgyinchina wrote:

This:
‘Biden also had tough words for Kiev, saying it must deal with the endemic graft that has sapped the economy and public faith in the state. “To be very blunt … you have to fight the cancer of corruption,” he told lawmakers.’…. Is funny. In the US, we have corruption, but we mask it by calling it ‘campaign contributions’.

Apr 22, 2014 7:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whatsgoingon wrote:

“But Washington has said it would decide “in days” on additional sanctions if Russia does not take steps to implement the agreement.”

What “steps” do we expect Russia to take – sending in peace keepers?

No need to rush. Time is everyone’s friend. After the election and new referendums things will become simple and easy. If the west can’t wait send in troops, not words, now.

Apr 22, 2014 7:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

Threats are pointless. Just do it, instead of pussyfooting around.

Apr 22, 2014 8:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AnnonReuters wrote:

Ukraine is a nation of penniless and spineless parasites. It’s time for both the east and west to cut them loose. Nothing will be gained by supporting the Ukranians – except for the Ukranians themselves.

Apr 22, 2014 8:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Neurochuck wrote:

It seems quite weird to offer just $50 million and a lecture about corruption.
The USA needs to offer more like $500 billion, and spread it around to all sorts of pockets.
“You broke it, you own it”

Apr 22, 2014 9:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mfw13 wrote:

Dirty little truth of international politics….there ain’t much you can do to stop another country from doing something you don’t like unless you are willing to start a war.

The deterrent threat of a big military means nothing if everyone knows you are reluctant to use it.

Apr 22, 2014 9:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RynoM wrote:

$50m isn’t much follow-up to the $5bn we spent supporting the overthrow and appointing the new government. Once again our feckless leaders expected to get regime change on the cheap, and are left with a mess they did not have a plan for. Now they are forgetting the first rule of holes.

Big sanctions won’t be leveled because the EU countries did not want this and the sanctions would hurt their economies. If Obama, Kerry and the State Department had looked further than their own shoelaces, they would have waited a year and let the Ukrainians vote in their next election.

Who would that have hurt, except the arms dealers?

Apr 22, 2014 10:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jim_seattle wrote:

RynoM – The pro Russian candidate won the last free election, why would it be any different next time. The Russians were offering the Ukraine a better deal than the West is. So we got regime change without an election, sort of like what we are trying in Venezuela.

Apr 22, 2014 11:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
yurakm wrote:

“the United States offered Ukraine a new $50 million aid package” – given that Ukrainian population is about 44-46 millions, the help is about $1.10 per capita.

Apr 22, 2014 11:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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