SpaceX wins injunction to stop USAF buying Russian rocket engines

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wingding19999 wrote:

I’m still having a hard time understanding why we would outsource rocket engines.

May 01, 2014 8:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
cmptrblder wrote:

About damn time something came back to this country, we no longer need Russian rockets for or needs.

May 01, 2014 12:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

@wingding19999: I believe for the same reason as below…

For sale: the United States of America. Made in China.

May 01, 2014 12:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
playspeed wrote:

@wingding19999, Because Russian engines were decades more advanced and cheaper than US ones. No joke.

May 01, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
afoose wrote:

The RD-180 is a fantastic rocket motor. Also, the design is completely open and well understood, so the only thing thing stopping NASA from developing an indigenous option is cost. Why would NASA pay billions of dollars to re-invent the wheel?

May 01, 2014 1:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Verdae wrote:

Multimillion dollar no bid contracts? Why aren’t we firing some generals??

The Dept. of Defense is the home of the world’s worst program managers and the world’s worst procurement managers. They have never heard of the concepts of cost control, on schedule, and under budget.

Yet we continue to shovels hundreds of billions of dollars every year to these incompetent cronies of the defense industry. This is shameful.

May 01, 2014 1:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
advill wrote:

Problem is not to buy russian or european rocket engines, that can not be based in a political decision……… problem is that contract was awarded with a non-compete contract!.

For Boeing / Lockheed is a paper intermediate contract, they are going to win billions DOING NOTHING!.

In the meantime Space X is the only U.S company able to compete for the contract, but there is also ESA and Japan and others, so Judge is right, it most be an open bid operation as most should be.

May 01, 2014 1:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Cnileolman wrote:

Good for SpaceX

May 01, 2014 2:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SciFiFanLA wrote:

Advill: You are incorrect. SpaceX is not the only US Company for the contract. ULA (via the Delta IV) has an all US made vehicle that can compete for the work.

May 01, 2014 3:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Boeing, the reason we hired YOU is because we don’t want russian rockets for the U.S. Air Force. If you want to stay relevant, do your aerospace job and make some aerospace stuff. Don’t thaw out a TV dinner and try to pass it off as restaurant food. Us taxpayers are paying you a lot of money, do it right and keep the jobs here.

May 01, 2014 4:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
expat75 wrote:

Don’t blame the Russians or the Chinese. The fault, as Hamlet would say, rests with ourselves. Our greatest enemies are our supranational companies,who have exported the jobs and know how overseas for the sole reason of profit!

May 01, 2014 4:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Simplerman wrote:

GOOD!!

May 01, 2014 5:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Simplerman wrote:

Scary though that the Russian technology seems to be better :/

Wake up America.

May 01, 2014 5:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

Will someone supply proof that the Russian engines are better, and by what measures, and do we need whatever it is they supposedly have in the first place? A no-bid contract just opened the door to corruption in high places. Boeing and Lockheed are unethical in this business and need to be punished.

May 01, 2014 5:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sinbad1 wrote:

Now all the US has to do is design and manufacture a rocket engine, easy?

May 01, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sinbad1 wrote:

Now all the US has to do is design and manufacture a rocket engine, easy?

May 01, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Boeing and Lockheed executives should be put on trial for treason.

May 01, 2014 6:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YesNoMaybeSo wrote:

We’ve been designing and manufacturing rocket engines for a very long time. Areojet has been doing just this since 1942, we need to wake up and invest in ourselves.

May 01, 2014 7:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GreatPmpkin wrote:

The US has some fantastic flying machines that do not rely on rocket motors or chemical propulsion. We have a military astronaut corp that use these classified vehicles that are most likely built by Lockheed. We use the Atlas V that rely on Russian rocket engines as legacy a system to cover for the secret programs. Also, the Gov likes redundancy. Our government want to keep you in the dark about this.

May 01, 2014 7:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wilhelm wrote:

given that the NASA Redstone rocket (initial Mercury program) was based on the German V-2, this is not surprising… like a lot of ‘US’ technology.

May 01, 2014 7:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sammwise wrote:

I have a hard time believing Space X rockets are made in the USA.
Perhaps they are assembled in the USA from ‘globally sourced parts’.

May 02, 2014 8:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

Made in the USA, by Americans. What’s so hard about that? Greed by contractors and graft to the DoD sends jobs overseas. We can’t compete with developing nations. Chinese make $20 for a 60+hr week and we just raised our minimum wage.

May 02, 2014 10:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse

The minimum wage has not been raised, seriously people can’t even follow current events.

May 02, 2014 11:40am EDT  --  Report as abuse

So the US would rather buy Russian rockets than American made? Crony Capitalism and the Military-Industrial complex at its best!

May 02, 2014 1:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

This injunction allows Russia to sell the engines to North Korea and Iran. That will be much better than selling them to the US. If the US buys Russian engines, the US will learn the secrets of Russian engines, and the US would not want to do that because it might be wrong. Is it better for North Korea and Iran to learn these secrets, so they can mass produce these engines for their military purposes?

May 04, 2014 4:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Overcast451 wrote:

“Made in the USA, by Americans. What’s so hard about that? Greed by contractors and graft to the DoD sends jobs overseas. We can’t compete with developing nations. Chinese make $20 for a 60+hr week and we just raised our minimum wage.”

Because – the rich have always been fond of slave labor. Call it what it is – not ‘outsourcing’, but ‘slavesourcing’.

May 06, 2014 4:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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