West Antarctic glaciers in 'irreversible' thaw, raising seas: study

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But no way climate change is occurring, this is all lies! /end sarcasm

May 12, 2014 5:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
amd65 wrote:

Every spring vast glaciers in my backyard seem to be locked in an irreversible thaw linked to global warming.

May 12, 2014 6:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
diluded0000 wrote:

I watched an interesting documentary last night. One of the things I took away was that many people really honestly believe God controls the weather. So talking about human caused climate change is viewed as nearly sacrilegious.

I don’t have too much trouble with believing that atmospheric CO2 absorbs radiated heat. But people might listen to climate scientist a little more if these scientist tried to be sensitive to the listener’s religious beliefs. The way it is now, you have these scientist that keep using facts and studies to do what some people view as denying the existence of God. If these scientist are so smart, they should figure out how to get their point across to a variety of audiences.

May 12, 2014 6:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
NC10T wrote:

10cm by 2200. Who cares? We’ll be dead!

The scare/BS tactics, over and over, are becoming tiresome. The ice on the South Pole/Antarctic is at a record HIGH and still climbing by millions of sq km. At least do some fact checking before just publishing nonsense!

May 12, 2014 6:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gordo53 wrote:

The US is actually one of the few nations decreasing greenhouse gas output. The emerging economies are building coal fired generating stations as fast as they can get them out of the ground. They are also spewing tons of really nasty greenhouse gases from they new found industries. World wide, C02 and other green house gas production will rise for decades. Bottom line is if temperatures are really rising at the rate the climate change folks claim then we are all screwed. The polar ice caps are going to melt and many major cites will be under water. Put solar cells on your roof if it makes you feel better, but just make sure you’re on high ground.

May 12, 2014 7:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

Yes, thawing glaciers are irreversible… That’s why glaciers have come and gone countless times throughout earth’s history, even before man existed… Because the thawing of glaciers is irreversible, and it’s all because we drive SUVs.

May 12, 2014 7:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crod526 wrote:

What will Marco Rubio do when half the state he represents disappears under water?

May 12, 2014 9:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tougar wrote:

USAPragmatist: What caused the climate change before man walked this planet?

May 12, 2014 9:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

tougar: Who knows, but it’s man who’s causing it now and that’s what’s important.

When are we going to stop letting America’s conservatives make unintelligent decisions for the rest of us? It’s destroying our nation and our planet.

May 12, 2014 11:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
onlyif wrote:

chicken little the sky is falling in.

May 12, 2014 11:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AZWarrior wrote:

“Past the point of no return” – Good, now shut up about it and get out of our faces about it.

May 12, 2014 11:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SR37212 wrote:

The last time this happened it was because those dam dinosaurs and their SUV’s. Either that or it was methane gas from dinosaur poop.

Actually it’s ironic that with all the regulations we have now the ice is melting faster than last century when we had zero environmental regulations at this point in that century.

May 12, 2014 12:00am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Talleyrand02 wrote:

Oh dear, let me go visit Antartica in a helicopter to watch the world coming apart at the seams….

Homo sapiens sapiens has now evolved to homo absurdus.

May 12, 2014 12:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

We can’t even predict the weather from year to year and suddenly now we know that the Sun’s cyclical patterns have nothing to do with our weather changes and man is causing the world to warm up.

I am so glad I own a piece of the tundra. My grand kids can plant rice there in 100 years. Unless of course the sun decides to change the weather again next century.

May 13, 2014 2:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

NC10T wrote:
“The ice on the South Pole/Antarctic is at a record HIGH and still climbing by millions of sq km. At least do some fact checking before just publishing nonsense!

Maybe you should follow your own advice and check facts before posting such nonsense.

Fact 1) Antarctic seas ice grows by millions of square kilometres every year. It is called ‘winter’.

Fact 2) It isn’t at a record high. It is at a 36 year high.

Fact 3) Global warming predicts hotter summers and colder winters. More winter ice and more summer calving is not a contradiction of that.

Fact 4) Global warming predicts uneven warming. The Arctic warming faster than the Antarctic does not contradict that.

The ‘baffled scientists’ right-wing blogs keep talking about are not baffled at all. They are merely ironing out details, such as why one side of the Antarctic is behaving differently to the other. As the answer lies in local weather patterns, this too is not a contradiction of global warming.

May 13, 2014 4:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

Butch_from_PA wrote:
“We can’t even predict the weather from year to year and suddenly now we know that the Sun’s cyclical patterns have nothing to do with our weather changes and man is causing the world to warm up.”

First, it was predicted long ago that more CO2 would cause global warming. CO2 has increased, and the planet has warmed exactly as predicted. If you are going to deny that it is CO2 (which is a greenhouse gas – you do know that?) causing global warming, then you have to explain why CO2 suddenly stopped being a greenhouse gas. I have yet to see any denier explain that .

Secondly, the sun varies by only 0.1% through its cycle, and it is cooling now while the planet is warming.

May 13, 2014 4:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

SR37212 wrote:
“Actually it’s ironic that with all the regulations we have now the ice is melting faster than last century when we had zero environmental regulations at this point in that century.”

Actually ice is melting faster because there is more CO2 than at this point last century.

May 13, 2014 4:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Hahahappy wrote:

Everything will be ok when we run out of oil.

May 13, 2014 7:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

From the article: “The findings contrast with a paradoxical expansion of the extent of ice floating on the sea around Antarctica in recent winters that the scientists said may be part of natural variations. ‘The changes in the glacier reflect much longer-term process’… ”

“Paradoxical”, only if one has faith in the currently fashionable flawed theory.

To the faithful, it’s “natural variation” when occurrences run counter to the prevailing theory and “much longer processes” when occurrences happen to coincide with the theory.

For a less hubristic scientific evaluation of “climate change” (erstwhile “global warming”) see:

http://climatechangereconsidered.org/

May 13, 2014 9:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

To laugh at a handful of cranks, peddling pseudo-science to the FoxBots (http://youtu.be/KyOgSLslDDo), and all paid for by the Koch-financed Heartlands Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute), follow unionwv’s link.

May 13, 2014 10:40am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

It’s no accident that the tactics being used to generate climate change deniers by creating a non-existent “scientific controversy” were used to generate doubt about the dangers of cigarette smoking.

It’s working. The gullible are falling right into step behind the money machine. How does it feel to be duped?

May 13, 2014 1:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

There is no controversy. There is just a handful of crank ‘scientists’ employed by oil companies because they can’t get a job anywhere else, and handful of fools who believe them. A similar handful deny evolution, and in many cases they are the same fools.

A handful of cranks is not “scientific controversy”.

May 13, 2014 2:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
4ever49 wrote:

“Irreversible retreat”? “It’s passed the point of no return”?
Oh come on, just wait while winter returns and freezing resumes. By the way – didn’t we just see a lot more sea ice this last season?

May 13, 2014 3:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheWhiteLine wrote:

tougar wrote:

USAPragmatist: What caused the climate change before man walked this planet?

carnivalchaos wrote:

tougar: Who knows, but it’s man who’s causing it now and that’s what’s important.

Actually, Carnival – WE know, at least in the broad strokes. Depends of course upon WHICH climate change event we’re talking about. There have been many over the eons.

The earliest ones were the result of tectonic/volcanic activity from a still-settling planet – trillons of tons of ash and/or gas (largely methane) released into the atmosphere.

And we also know that impact by asteroids have caused these events – we’re only now starting to make a serious effort to track such things, but some big ones have snuck by alarmingly close.

For me the point is – regardless of the cause, they all ended with pretty much the same result: Most of the “dominant” species around at those times ceased to exist. Larger, complex lifeforms like dinosaurs and land mammals were either wiped out, or thinned out to where the species basically had to start over. Bacteria and paramecium did ok – it was the more “evolved” types that took the worst of it. Like….. perhaps…… man?

Is the climate changing? You betcha – have to be living in a cave not to see what’s been occuring with the weather over the last decade or so. Is man the cause? Well, certainly ONE of the causes, these things tend to happen in their own time regardless, at best we’re just speeding things up a bit, at worst – a lot.

And even if we’re one of the smallest contributors to this change – doesn’t it make sense to make some effort to delay it’s effects? Note I said delay – it may not be possible to truly reverse the trends. But I’m utterly baffled by the apparently-conservative mindset that puts politics before pragmatics – the same people who “don’t want to leave their grandchildren with debt” seem to have no problem with leaving those kids with a planet marginally capable of sustaining life. What’s “the economy” worth when you can’t go outdoors, or breathe the air?

I won’t be around to face the consequences – but it’s worth some sacrifice to me to give those grandkids a fair chance…

May 13, 2014 3:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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