Malaysian teenager gang-raped by 38 men: media

Comments (36)
Ralphooo wrote:

I am glad Reuters is running this and similar stories. It is important to continue showing these stories to the world and to the countries where this occurs. It should be an international embarrassment to such countries, so they will take action to decrease the prevalence of rape.

May 30, 2014 9:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lousymom wrote:

What we have seen, though, is that strict Islamic law does nothing to deter these crimes, but it does lead to harsh punishments for the women victimized.

May 30, 2014 1:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
shuaya wrote:

among Hindus,Muslims,Christians etc etc..rape is prevalent everywhere in this world,stricter actions need to be taken,thank you for running the story,

May 30, 2014 1:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JL4 wrote:

It’s very possible the girl will be put to death for not being a virgin now.

May 30, 2014 6:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Ralphooo wrote:

They should stop the whipping. It only inflames people’s emotions and otherwise accomplishes nothing.

May 30, 2014 7:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reality2Day wrote:

@lousymom wrote: lead to harsh punishments for the women victimized.

@shuaya wrote: It’s very possible the girl will be put to death for not being a virgin now.

——–
Islam, a pathetic barbaric excuse for religion, it has no compassion for women.

May 30, 2014 9:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
citizendave wrote:

Islam is a religion of pedophilia even more than the Catholic Church.

Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4:

“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”

May 30, 2014 9:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

citzendave

Learn to use Google. A very simple search shows that Quran 65:4 doesn’t say anything remotely like that.

May 30, 2014 11:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

JL4 wrote:
“It’s very possible the girl will be put to death for not being a virgin now.”

Have you got any proof that , such as a previous example of a Malaysian rape victim being put to death for not being virgin?

May 30, 2014 11:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

Reality2Day wrote:
“Islam, a pathetic barbaric excuse for religion, it has no compassion for women.”

Then how do you explain why,when we look at data – you know, facts – the countries with the highest incidence of rape are non-muslim, and in fact dominated by christian countries, with the USA having more rapes-per-capita than *any* Islamic country.

http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS_Sexual_violence.xls

May 30, 2014 11:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kristekitty wrote:

you know what the difference is between those in other countries who see all women as worthless and those in this one who see all muslims as evil?

nothing.

not one darn thing. they’re all a bunch of bigots so deep in prejudice that it allows them to write off entire groups of people as not being worthy.

yeah, be proud of yourself for fitting right in with the hate!

May 31, 2014 1:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse

If the muslim law can punish the rapists in such a way that Death would be inevitable. I think that would be a good way to deter the rest.
I dont think at all that the women can get punished unless you’re following the rules of ignorant ‘religious leaders’.

May 31, 2014 2:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
OBryan wrote:

This is the spirit of Islam, woman are treated as sub human

May 31, 2014 3:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

This is the spirit of Christianity, women are treated as sub human

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/09assault.html?_r=0

“…18 young men and teenage boys on charges of participating in the gang rape of an 11-year-old girl in the abandoned trailer home…”

That was easy…

May 31, 2014 4:40am EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

While the US certainly has a long way to go in this department, using per capita stats is a pointless comparison. It is well known that in Muslim countries the crime rarely gets reported.

May 31, 2014 10:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Agreed an all accounts. But, no religion has a corner on rape or it’s prevention. The doctrines can and are twisted to suit the morals of day. And its easy to profess stricter actions are the magic bullet. Yet that won’t be possible when the legal and enforcement systems harbor the same contempt for women (or classes of peoples) as those doing the crime. The US uses this “stricter punishment” argument to justify the death penalty. But that logic doesn’t really hold up since those who murder do so with premeditation; thinking they can get away with it; a crime of passion, where no thought for consequence is considered; or they just don’t give a damn.
It seems to me, in part, rape is the result of a pervasive dislike and lack of respect for ones self, and others. As long as there is an attitude that women (or others different then ourselves) are somehow not human or less human, or chattel than these crimes of violence will continue because the victims are not viewed as people but rather objects or property.
Articles and reporting like this or by others, Al Jazeera, the Atlantic and BBC are good and important but they only reach an audience who generally recognize rape as a crime. The story, inhumanity, the lesson of compasion needs to be told in the villages, slums and homes of those most at risk of victimizing and being victimized. After all who is more at fault, who should suffer the “stricter punishment”, the men doing the violation? The police or villagers who stood by? The courts who don’t prosecute? The fathers, sons, husbands who see there families women as property? I don’t have an answer but I thinks it’s a symptom of a much larger sociatal disease.

May 31, 2014 11:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

Are Islamic countries all the same? Clones of each other?

I suspect than when most people say ‘Muslim country’ (which is nonsense as a Muslim is a person who follows Islam… they are Islamic countries) they are thinking of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. In reality, talking about ‘Muslim countries’ is as meaningless as talking about ‘Christian countries’ as though Russia, Italy, and the USA are all exactly the same. If anything, there is more variation in Islamic countries as Islam is a fractured and divided faith, and quite often they hate each other.

The really surprising thing is that Muslim females are actually women, and they have feelings – just like other humans do. They tend to get quite emotional when they get raped and, amazingly enough, they do report it.

May 31, 2014 12:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

Sad. Many third world and developing countries have morally sick behavior and customs. Let’s see if Malaysia handles this better than Flt.370.

May 31, 2014 2:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

If you want to diminish or stop this kind of treatment of women, make the punishment not worth taking the risk to commit the crime in the first place. All too often, the perpetrators are given “light” sentences for their misdeeds. Some societies have to change the way they think about women if there is a chance for success against religious and cultural norms to the otherwise.

May 31, 2014 9:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

Art16 wrote:
“If you want to diminish or stop this kind of treatment of women, make the punishment not worth taking the risk to commit the crime in the first place. All too often, the perpetrators are given “light” sentences for their misdeeds.”

Harsh punishment is not a deterrent, proven by the USA with its death-sentence having the highest homicide rate in the civilised world, higher than any country in Western Europe even though they have no death sentence. There is simply no correlation at all between the severity of the punishment and the incidence of the crime.

What does deter is conviction rate. A 90% possibility of being convicted and spending 15 years in prison deters more than a 1% chance of being convicted and sentenced to death. Criminals rarely commit a crime expecting to get caught. They expect to get away with it. Removing that expectation is the deterent.

May 31, 2014 11:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tpvero wrote:

It will always be strange to me the little boys are raised born and raised by women, why then can they grow up to be so violent and awful. Women have them to educate in their most formative years. Most of us learn what is right from wrong from women and most of us listen.

Jun 01, 2014 6:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
wtguy123 wrote:

The beautiful Muslim people…

Jun 01, 2014 7:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Anonymouse_3 wrote:

Hideous. The action is — and the point made by multiple people is valid; that no faith condones this type of action.

Jun 01, 2014 11:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I wonder why this was even reported to the police, unless of course, the girl had to be hospitalized afterwards. The article does not say, but the police chief of the district implies with his comments that the villagers did not report it – maybe out of fear, and maybe because it is relatively normal. The article says this actually occurred on May 20th but it makes the news a week to ten days later.

The World has a very, very long way to go before we can all live under the same roof with the same rules. It is one of primary tenets necessary for erecting one house, that the champions of globalization (spawned in the early 1960s), never took into consideration in the grand scheme of things.

Jun 01, 2014 11:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Totally outrageous! these men, no matter what their religion should be punished by hanging or life imprisonment for life, no ifs and buts, lock them up and throw away the keys.

Jun 01, 2014 12:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Overcast451 wrote:

The dirty pigs should be shot, and shoveled into a mass grave.

Jun 02, 2014 8:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jdl51 wrote:

“Politicians from a Muslim party running the region said their proposal to introduce Islamic hudud law, with harsh penalties, would deter offenders.”

Until muslims start punishing the actual perpetrators instead of the victims, don’t look for any deterrent effect. Same old same old.

Jun 02, 2014 5:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

The prophet had them beat, his wife was 11 years old when he was 49…

Jun 02, 2014 6:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Bakhtin

“Harsh punishment is not a deterrent, proven by the USA with its death-sentence having the highest homicide rate in the civilised world, higher than any country in Western Europe even though they have no death sentence. There is simply no correlation at all between the severity of the punishment and the incidence of the crime.”

I love how you constantly change your qualifiers like civilised (we spell it civilized in America) so you can make up some absurd statistic. You had to leave off over half a dozen European nations that are above the US.

Jun 02, 2014 6:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rarepulse wrote:

You really want to stop this insane violence against women, as punishment castrate the men guilty of this and you will see how many will think twice before even trying something so horrible like this.

Jun 02, 2014 8:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Constantcy wrote:

Rape is not Christian or christian. Hindu, Islam and the law do not favor or foster this crime.

Jun 02, 2014 10:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BobtheMoron wrote:

The “religion of peace” seems to condone rape and then stoning the rape victim for having brought this upon herself. Only in Islam can an innocent woman child be used as a sex toy and then discarded as trash with impunity. “The religion of peace’ is an abomination and is the home of evil in the world.

Jun 04, 2014 7:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

I love my god but detest organized religion. They were formed by men for men and treat all women as chattel. Women, who are over half the world’s population, and the men who love them must stand up to these barbarians. The time is now.

Jun 04, 2014 11:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
jakku wrote:

Obviously, such things dont happen in more developed nations… Oh Wait! They do. So it is not just a problem in Asia. It is a worldwide problem.. Reuters.. please correct.

Jun 04, 2014 9:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
roncee wrote:

Bakhtin wrote:

“citzendave

Learn to use Google. A very simple search shows that Quran 65:4 doesn’t say anything remotely like that.”

Follow your own advice. Google: Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4

You’ll find that a simple search brings up exactly what citizendave posted. But then you already knew that, didn’t you?

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/05/muhammad-and-pedophilia.html

Monday, May 19, 2008
Muhammad And Pedophilia

When is it OK to have sex with a young girl? Well Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4:

“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”

Jun 04, 2014 10:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
canadianeh65 wrote:

I wish this would stop. It breaks my heart every time I read something like this.

Jun 05, 2014 8:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
This discussion is now closed. We welcome comments on our articles for a limited period after their publication.