California police unaware student had firearms before killings: report

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wink47 wrote:

It seems to me the police did not exercise due diligence in this case and it may have made a difference. Checking for registered firearms should be easy and quick for law enforcement and they should do so in most all calls.

May 31, 2014 2:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tonygilbr wrote:

the santa barbara police dept are in for some serious, multimillion dollar lawsuits that it will lose. expect a grand total in the hundreds of millions.

May 31, 2014 10:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CF137 wrote:

wink47 – In CA, firearm registration only applies to weapons purchased after Jan 2014. Not sure when this dead psycho punk kid purchased his, but I wouldn’t bank on that route to try and track down crazy gun owners. Most gun owners will NOT voluntarily register their firearms, especially the psychos.

May 31, 2014 11:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I read that 3 of the victims were stabbed to death in his apartment. I suppose his knives were not registered either.

May 31, 2014 1:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
goldminor wrote:

I get the feeling that what ever Rodgers had been initially planning, he very likely altered those plans after the police questioning by deciding to go ahead with his intentions immediately. It is unfortunate that the police did not consider the possibility of Rodgers owning weapons. That is a strike against the police and their methodology. The only possible silver lining is that his attack may have been less severe due to his being rushed into making his fatal decision to move ahead.

May 31, 2014 3:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
goldminor wrote:

@ CF137…he had to register the weapons to legally purchase them. At that point his name was in a database. He could have purchased black market {unregistered}weapons, if he had thought about it.

May 31, 2014 3:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
FC_sonic wrote:

Anyone who purchases a handgun in California has to pass a written test to get handgun safety certificate before they can buy one. Then any purchases go through the DROS process. That process has been in place since the 1990s. He didn’t have a criminal record or documented mental health issues or confinement. Rodger bought the guns legally and it was known he bought them legally since he would have had to fill out the paperwork for each purchase. So all those guns were “registered” anyway.

May 31, 2014 3:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rvm3 wrote:

The police officers have blood on their hands and should be fired.

May 31, 2014 3:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
OkieRedux wrote:

Mass shootings account for virtually none of the gun-related violence in the U.S. And virtually all of the people who fit the profile of a mass shooter never commit a violent crime. We are talking about an event that is not only statistically negligible, but also unpredictable.

The government cannot deprive citizens of their Second Amendment rights for doing no more than to express emotional disturbance publicly. The legal question is whether the individual presently poses a threat to himself or to others. If the answer is no, then gun ownership is a non-consideration. The government cannot use a record of legal gun purchases to decide whether a person is a threat.

Off-duty police officers who were already familiar with Elliot Rodger joined on-duty officers in evaluating him. This suggests that the police department went above and beyond due diligence. Again, almost everyone like Rodger does not commit a crime. To blame the police post hoc is cretinous.

May 31, 2014 4:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

Drastic times call for drastic measures. Time to put heavy restrictions on gun ownership like other countries. It’s time to start protecting the rights of the majority. http://www.policymic.com/articles/90033/shooting-victim-s-dad-has-a-tearful-plea-for-every-politician-who-has-failed-on-gun-control

May 31, 2014 4:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
birder wrote:

Didn’t know because they didn’t look it up in the data base? Or didn’t know because the data base had not been updated? Or didn’t know because they spelled his name wrong? Or didn’t know because they were too busy recatching all criminals that the legal system let go without prosecution.

May 31, 2014 6:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

People who are truly insane believe they are sane and would have no clue about the societal concerns of insane people owning firearms. This situation seems to be among those as being impossible to predict or detect, until it was all to late, as it was in this unfortunate event. This probably explains why the assassin could be so self effacing and non-threatening when questioned by police.

May 31, 2014 9:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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