Mosul falls to militants, Iraqi forces flee northern city

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AlkalineState wrote:

Shock and awe. There goes 2 triliion dollars and 4,500 U.S. soldiers killed for absolutely nothing.

Thanks, republicans.

Jun 10, 2014 11:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse

It would have taken another — another — 150,000 American troops to protect Iraq and now Syria from Sunni extremists, often funded and armed by Persian Gulf oil monarchies pretending to be allied to the West.
With USA forces already thinly stretched across the planet, Obama, instead, chose to abandon Iraq and Syria and leave it to the Sunni and Shiite, the Persians, and, indeed, even the Israelis, to sort out in what looks to become a very bloody and long-lasting sectarian war that will encompass the entire Middle East, including North Africa and Turkey.

Jun 10, 2014 11:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse

It would have taken another — another — 150,000 American troops to protect Iraq and now Syria from Sunni extremists, often funded and armed by Persian Gulf oil monarchies pretending to be allied to the West.
With USA forces already thinly stretched across the planet, Obama, instead, chose to abandon Iraq and Syria and leave it to the Sunni and Shiite, the Persians, and, indeed, even the Israelis, to sort out in what looks to become a very bloody and long-lasting sectarian war that will encompass the entire Middle East, including North Africa and Turkey.

Jun 10, 2014 11:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Waste of American resources. We should have never sent American kids to die there. 4,500 of them dead for nothing due to Bush and Cheney.

Jun 10, 2014 12:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
yubamary wrote:

Rudy you are so correct. We really need to get our own oil productions going so we can tell the Middle East where to go. I know the Administration wants us to just go Wind and Solor but that is not going to do it for us. We still need to depend on our oil and coal and we need to start realizing it quickly or we will be in a world of hurt.
People need to stop listening to the politicians. The politicians need to start listening to the people and not just for Politically Correct Ideas or ideals. We better start looking at what we can do to preserve our country and our ways of life or we will loose them.

Jun 10, 2014 12:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

Bush cost the lives of 37,000 American GI’s and Billions on WMD?
Thank you President Obama for not prolonging, but ending our stupidity(Afghanistan). No more help to uncontrollable cesspools, ie: Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria or Somalia.
We need to back strong leaders, like Sisi, Netanyahu & King Abdullah: who we do have influence with. They will help secure our interests in the middle east. Obama knows this.
Rudy, the Bloody Jihad is thousands of yrs. old and will continue long after we are gone. Why bet on a dead horse?

Jun 10, 2014 12:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
zeke_voltage wrote:

Leave them to kill each other. Secure our borders and start driving hybrid and electric cars. We’ve got enough of our own oil if we use it wisely.

Jun 10, 2014 1:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

I remember the 80′s and 90′s when so often people would anecdotally talk about needing to nuke the whole middle east and turn it into a glass parking lot. Maybe that wasn’t such a bad idea. This people and culture is a terminal disease affecting mankind.

Jun 10, 2014 1:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MichaelKay wrote:

Well here we go again. Will we get in the middle of this mess too? I suppose so since we are partially to blame for it.

Jun 10, 2014 1:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MasterDebator wrote:

Nice going Obama! Debate the merits of the original Iraq War all you want, but pulling the troops out too early was an even bigger mistake. Guaranteed troops will need to be sent back in causing more lost lives. This is one of many reasons Obama will go down as one of the worst Presidents in history. Critical mistake by American voters.

Jun 10, 2014 1:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bfstk wrote:

All the Pentagon, CIA and NSA spin in the world won’t turn this into a victory. After we were assured that Iraq wouldn’t be another Vietnam we can see the failure of US policy and powerful military in Iraq. A corrupt government installed by us can’t control the putative country. Tribal society a country doesn’t make. It threatened to become and endless war with brave GOPers in congress giving more money but refusing to go over themselves and fight. Ditto for their sons and daughters by and large. The dems were only a tad better as they got sucked into the vortex of a futile war. So where is Mr Blow Dried Kerry now? Putzing around about Ukraine on to another adventure? For shame and shambles.

Jun 10, 2014 1:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
zacman wrote:

US shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but now falling victim to Obama’s past. Organizing the Sunni community one mis-calculation at a time. No worries; they are deeply concerned. Middle East is un-solvable.

Jun 10, 2014 2:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reality2Day wrote:

@Doc62 wrote:

We need to back strong leaders, like Sisi, Netanyahu & King Abdullah

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So what you are saying is these leaders (dictators mostly) are the better option than tribal and sectarian governance? What has the US Mid-East policy accomplished?

The overthrown of Saddam (Iraq), the Taliban (Afghanistan), Ghaddifi (Libya), Saleh (Yemen), Mubarak (Egypt) and now Assad (Syria). Were these a better option? They may have been dictators and violated human rights and more but their countries weren’t in a perpetual state of crisis/war/terrorism. The US policy has been misguided with no forethought as to how these countries would move forward and survive in the aftermath of US intervention. The vacuum left in these countries that have been under the dictator’s boot for so long and they have no idea how to cope with democracy which is a totally foreign concept to them. The US miscalculated to the extreme.

The Gulf countries support the Wahibbi’s (Al Qaeda), Pakistan (The Taliban), Iran (Hezbollah) and terrorism flourishes. The dictators crushed these groups along with regular citizens, the difference is they didn’t destroy their countries in the process.

Jun 10, 2014 2:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JoeSchmoe123 wrote:

Republicans George W Bush and Dick Cheney got us into WHAT?

It’s not too late for War Crimes trials. It’s a slam dunk conviction if some up-and-coming hotshot lawyer wants to cut his or her teeth, so to speak. But my fellow Democrats have so far been spineless in allow the focus to be on Benghazi.

Ladies and Gentlemen, over 1/10th the WWII Nazi holocaust occurred under Bush in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of innocents were killed, maimed, displaced, disfigured.

And now they’re, shall we say, upset?

Jun 10, 2014 2:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

How many lives were wasted in vain and billions of dollars down the drain in that toilet?

Jun 10, 2014 2:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rilski wrote:

Hahahaha:)) Can’t control the whole world can you… I wish the US stopr escalating the new civil war in Ukraine. Let them federalize.

Jun 10, 2014 2:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rilski wrote:

Hahahaha:)) Can’t control the whole world can you… I wish the US stopr escalating the new civil war in Ukraine. Let them federalize.

Jun 10, 2014 2:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whatsgoingon wrote:

After quadrupling oil prices everything is back to “normal.” We are happy that WMD threats were removed, we are happy that our puppet Saddam was removed, replaced by Al Qaeda, a ticket for future invasions.

It’s just business, fracking only makes profit after oil price crosses $100, a “WMD-hunting game” was a perfect project making it happen.

While we are borrowing from the Chinese to fund basic healthcare, our war-creation business is going strong as ever. “Defense budget” keeps shooting up, luring jobless into the army, who will have their luck tested through gladiator shows, suicides, sexual assaults, and VA dramas…

Nothing has changed, nothing will.

Jun 10, 2014 2:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TackSession wrote:

This all started with the invasion of Iraq, disbanding of its government, and wrecking of whatever was left of the country by a group of neoconservative zealots called Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz. Now, over a decade later, not one of them admits to having screwed up. At least the one powerful guy who voted against this war from day one was Obama!

Jun 10, 2014 2:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dtschuck wrote:

Kind of makes one yearn for the good ole days of stability under Saddam Hussein.

Jun 10, 2014 2:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ThursdayAgain wrote:

On the wrong side for too many years, now watching our “friends” burn. Bad policy, bad decisions, bad result.

Jun 10, 2014 2:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
amacd wrote:

Don’t worry.

George W. Rambo himself is strapping-up to go over there and kick some ass with his side-kick Dickhead Cheney and Unknown Unknown Rummy.

This friggin Disguised Global Empire (only ‘posing’ as our formerly proud democratic country) is falling apart like a train-wreck in slow-motion on Obama’s watch — and no replacement faux-Emperor/president from either the ‘R’ Vichy neo-con party or the ‘D’ Vichy neoliberal-con party will even get elected in 2016 with the Middle East, Central Asia, Europe, and the US in political-economic and social shambles.

As the Bush-head once said to his FEMA jerk, “heck of a job”.

At least the Global Empire troops got out before they had to coptered off the roof of the Green Zone, like in Saigon, eh?

Best to the 3-5% of the truly informed vanguard of Americans (within the 99%) in this fast expanding ‘Pro-democracy Anti-Empire’ educational and non-violent revolutionary movement (in the Green Party) against this deceitful and Disguised Global EMPIRE, which is “Occupying” our country and yet can’t so easily be identified, by the propagandized and deluded majority, as wearing Red Coats, Red Stars, nor funny looking Nazi helmets —- quite YET!

Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
Over
Violent (‘Vichy’ disguised)
Empire,

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

Jun 10, 2014 2:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ofilha wrote:

The prime minister of Iraq is a corrupt, inept leader who for petty gain allowed almost 10 years of US efforts to go down the drain. The United States should have known this would happen given the history of this man.

Jun 10, 2014 2:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
amacd wrote:

Don’t worry.

George W. Rambo himself is strapping-up to go over there and kick some ass with his side-kick Dickhead Cheney and Unknown Unknown Rummy.

This friggin Disguised Global Empire (only ‘posing’ as our formerly proud democratic country) is falling apart like a train-wreck in slow-motion on Obama’s watch — and no replacement faux-Emperor/president from either the ‘R’ Vichy neo-con party or the ‘D’ Vichy neoliberal-con party will even get elected in 2016 with the Middle East, Central Asia, Europe, and the US in political-economic and social shambles.

As the Bush-head once said to his FEMA jerk, “heck of a job”.

At least the Empire’s troops didn’t have to get coptered off the roof of the Green Zone — like Saigon, eh?

Best to the 3-5% of the truly informed vanguard of Americans (within the 99%) in this fast expanding ‘Pro-democracy Anti-Empire’ educational and non-violent revolutionary movement (in the Green Party) against this deceitful and Disguised Global EMPIRE, which is “Occupying” our country and yet can’t so easily be identified, by the propagandized and deluded majority, as wearing Red Coats, Red Stars, nor funny looking Nazi helmets —- quite YET!

Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
Over
Violent (‘Vichy’ disguised)
Empire,

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

Jun 10, 2014 2:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
amacd wrote:

Don’t worry.

George W. Rambo himself is strapping-up to go over there and kick some ass with his side-kick Dickhead Cheney and Unknown Unknown Rummy.

This friggin Disguised Global Empire (only ‘posing’ as our formerly proud democratic country) is falling apart like a train-wreck in slow-motion on Obama’s watch — and no replacement faux-Emperor/president from either the ‘R’ Vichy neo-con party or the ‘D’ Vichy neoliberal-con party will even get elected in 2016 with the Middle East, Central Asia, Europe, and the US in political-economic and social shambles.

As the Bush-head once said to his FEMA jerk, “heck of a job”.

At least the Empire’s troops didn’t have to get coptered off the roof of the Green Zone — like Saigon, eh?

Best to the 3-5% of the truly informed vanguard of Americans (within the 99%) in this fast expanding ‘Pro-democracy Anti-Empire’ educational and non-violent revolutionary movement (in the Green Party) against this deceitful and Disguised Global EMPIRE, which is “Occupying” our country and yet can’t so easily be identified, by the propagandized and deluded majority, as wearing Red Coats, Red Stars, nor funny looking Nazi helmets —- quite YET!

Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
Over
Violent (‘Vichy’ disguised)
Empire,

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

Jun 10, 2014 2:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GQ222 wrote:

Invading Iraq will go down as one of the biggest blunders of the last 100 years. Saddam had the country under control and was a natural foil that kept the Iranians in place. We’ve undone both, spent trillions of dollars, lost 4,500 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Brilliant. Btw, Hilary voted for the war. Let’s not forget that come election time.

Jun 10, 2014 2:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
HelenaPopova wrote:

“”"In a statement, the U.S. State Department said it was “deeply concerned” and had senior officials in Baghdad and Washington monitoring events in coordination with the Iraqi government, Kurdish officials and other Iraqi figures. It said Washington would “support a strong, coordinated response”.

“The United States will provide all appropriate assistance to the government of Iraq,” it added, saying that its use of arms and fighters from Syria showed “ISIL is not only a threat to the stability of Iraq, but a threat to the entire region”.”’

??? US decided to fight against al-Qaeda in Syria? But in means to fight for Asad! 8-0

Jun 10, 2014 2:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bernie777 wrote:

Mr. President, don’t you dare get us involved in another war in the Middle East. How about passing a bill in congress that requires the children or grandchildren of Congressmen who vote for war to be required to be the first to go? I say “NUTS” to these war hawks with big mouths and then let the poor and disadvantaged among us fight the wars!

Jun 10, 2014 2:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

Obama tried to keep US troops in Iraq after 2011, but Iraq refused to let them commit crimes against Iraqis and be tried in the US. Obama intervened in Libya, and oil production, most of which went to the US and NATO has dropped to 8% of normal. Obama tried to intervene in the Syrian Civil War, but Lavrov and Putin saved us from 9,000 dead and 66,000 wounded, many with arms and legs blown off, because the Syrian conflict would have been fought in Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq for twice the casualties of the Iraq War. However, Syria’s battles have cut oil pipelines to Mediterranean ports.

Al Qaeda’s current leader, Ayman al Zawahiri, has stopped trying to blow up shoes and underwear on airliners and has moved al Qaeda withing striking range of the oil and gas infrastructure of north Africa, the Arabian Peninsula, and the Middle East. He has distanced al Qaeda from ISIL, but he has been pragmatic about letting Libyan labor unrest and rebellions cut off oil for the US and NATO, so he will let ISIL create havoc in Iraq to reduce oil supplies for the West and drive up the price of oil 4.35% in the past month.

The US and NATO have mechanized economies that make or import goods at city A and sell them at cities A, B, C, D, E, and F, requiring transport that depends on oil. Their mechanized militaries include tanks, aircraft, and warships that need refined oil fuels and lubricants. Attacks in oil producing states raise the terror premium, raises revenues for Arab oil states, raise donations to al Qaeda and other groups from Arab oil states, damage the economies of the US and NATO, and let the US and NATO pay for both sides in the war. It is an effective strategy that works whether al Qaeda causes the attacks or not. It requires effective counter measures to aid natives in their defense without western forces that would arouse a native insurgency against “foreign invaders and occupiers.”

Jun 10, 2014 2:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
grasspress wrote:

here come the ignorant hordes pillaging and murdering and destroying all art, beauty, education, medicine, technology and all scientific advances that have made modern life bearable. get ready for the new ‘dark ages’.

Jun 10, 2014 2:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

Reality2Day@ Thanks for your support, you understand the reality and mentality of the middle east. I’d rather live under Saddam than al Qaida. His last words: “To the hell that is Iraq!?”. He knew what would happen and he got the last laugh(Mosul).

Jun 10, 2014 2:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

For all the bad things Saddam did, he sure kept the Islamic extremists out of his country.

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Mandingo wrote:

The Bush/Cheney legacy lives on. In Iraq they switched Sunni leadership for Iraq/Iran Shia leadership. On the other hand Shia Maliki should never have told the Americans to leave, but I am sure he had his orders from his base in Iran (Shia stronghold). He could have used the Americans to hold off the Sunni.

McCain is probably still telling people “the Surge” mattered. It didn’t matter one bit, one way or the other.

Jun 10, 2014 3:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Simplerman wrote:

Hey Iran, checkmate.

Jun 10, 2014 3:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reality2Day wrote:

@carlmartel wrote:

Obama tried to intervene in the Syrian Civil War, but Lavrov and Putin saved us

Attacks in oil producing states raise the terror premium, raises revenues for Arab oil states, raise donations to al Qaeda and other groups from Arab oil states, damage the economies of the US and NATO

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Assad may be dictator, but I think he is the best bet for Syria and it’s people. If he fails, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon will become one big war zone and continue to spread. Frightening thought, not just for neighboring countries but the world.

I see what you keep stressing about oil states and rising prices due to terrorism, it makes sense. Hope you read my previous comment.

Jun 10, 2014 3:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tad_mag wrote:

Worse, we could have built 1,000 modern and safe nuclear reactors for the money we wasted on this unnecessary war-for-fun-and-profit. This actually would have created high paying jobs, and brought industry back to the United States. And with all that electricity we could have produced un-ending quantities of synthetic fuels for automobiles for generations to come. That would have bankrupted the depraved Middle East and brought gasoline down to 50 cents a gallon, not to mention lowered everyone’s energy bills, as opposed to what we have now — tripled. Eventually this will happen out of necessity, just not in our lifetime. Until then, we will continue to hire half the poor to kill the other half.

Jun 10, 2014 3:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ofilha wrote:

Blaming obama for this debacle is rather petty partisanship since the people who started this, without any overall strategy, were a republican president and vice president. For those thinking that if we had stayed we would have prevented this mess, they are dreaming. Yes, we could but at what cost? Both, republicans and democrat administrations share the blame for the lack of vision, planning and lack of political will to tell Maliki to get his act together or get out.

Jun 10, 2014 3:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JackHerer wrote:

Jeez, people really do like to re-write things to suit their own agendas.

Syria’s Assad was happily funding these extremist scum when they were fighting the U.S. and U.K. in Iraq. That’s no secret.

The moderate Syrian rebels are the ones currently fighting these same extremists in Syria right now. Assad, mysteriously, doesn’t want to engage with those extremists. Those extremists, even more mysteriously, would rather fight the moderates than Assad.

When Assad has called amnesties on prisoners in the past, amazingly he lets out the most extreme elements, but keeps the moderates locked up to torture to death.

Assad, and his selfish cling to power in Syria, is currently the biggest recruiter of extremism in the entire world. He is also its biggest enabler too it would seem.

There is nothing stopping the U.S. and its allies attacking both Assad’s forces and the extremists at the same time.

Do that, and it will damage both the ultimate source of the extremist problem, and the extremist problem itself.

The extremists are not hard to differentiate from the moderates in Syria because they are at war with each other. Assad, on the other hand, only has a faux war against the extremists.

The growth of extremism suits Assad in Syria, because it can then be used by apologists such as Putin to justify Assad’s destruction of Syria with terrible weapons. Hell Putin is even happy with the systematic rape of children by Assad’s forces as long as he can use the excuse of “fighting terrorism.”

Doing nothing in Syria has clearly been catastrophic. Iraq is now tragically engulfed in the flames of Western inaction.

Continue to do nothing to stop Assad, and continue to watch other countries burn.

Jun 10, 2014 3:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
newlycopper wrote:

High time for Kurdistan to kiss goodbye to Iraq , move on to independence, you are the last hope for good sense in the region.

Jun 10, 2014 4:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Shock and awe.

Jun 10, 2014 4:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
blogoleum wrote:

Generation after generation of impoverished illiterates are manipulated into proxy wars by their religious and political and merchant leaders. Not sure if I blame America anymore. The whole region is a desert with no opportunities.

The Sunnis(sic) may just wrest Syria back despite Assad apparent victory, but I don’t think the Iranians and Baghdad will let Kirkuk fall like Mosul.

Maybe we got the ball rolling to a better place. Maybe fewer people died than would have had we done nothing.

It absolutely sucks.

Jun 10, 2014 4:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Earthtourist wrote:

“Mission accomplished” ??

Jun 10, 2014 5:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Earthtourist wrote:

“Mission accomplished” ??

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mrnukem wrote:

Let me start by stating I am not with either political party. Anyone who blames President Obama for this is just clinging to ideology and ignoring the fact that a huge majority of the American people wanted us out of Iraq and that when Obama campaigned he promised to get us out. It was wrong of the USA to have ever invaded but it would also have been wrong for us to stay, the price in blood and resources would have been too high, it already was too high. Yes we made a mistake as a nation to ever have gone to war in Iraq but mindlessly dumping troops and money into the whole doomed venture would have also been wrong. President Obama did the right thing in extracting us from Iraq, staying would not have been worth one more drop of American blood. Want to blame someone then look no further than President Bush.

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Whatsgoingon wrote:

GQ222 “…Btw, Hilary voted for the war. Let’s not forget that come election time.”

Don’t go over board. What about the 87% who supported the WMD-hunting game in 2003?

We are a happy family, we are not perfect but we are not the worst. We make certain “mistakes” but we are who we are. As long as we are alive we won’t do anything differently…

Invest in energy, stay away from the army. Watch everything like a movie – that keeps you healthy.

Nothing has changed, and nothing will.

Jun 10, 2014 5:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
fred5407 wrote:

Ah yes, all the excuses. The US trained the Iraqi Army. We disarmed the population. We are no match without air cover and special weapons for a well trained force fighting on their own turf. Now you want to disarm the US population. We want the population to fight, but we put in a puppet government that we try to control, and that people do not trust. Then our Generals go on to other battles for more ribbons. So much for controlling the whole world. God and the Devil control the earth, just in case some of you have not figured it out yet.

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sabrefencer wrote:

what a waste of American treasures ..blood and financial…and for what? all those maimed, all those dead, all that much needed monies spent for what and for whom?…the Iraqis and half the middle east, hate themselves, hate us, hate all, except those crazed mullahs, that are causing this in the first place and they are too blinded to recognize, even their religion has been hijacked and twisted into an evil spin, which was never intended, when formed……what a pity and waste

Jun 10, 2014 5:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

The surge. Good one. Yeah, that stuck.

Bush/Cheney = worst administration ever. And we told you so. Back in 2003.

Jun 10, 2014 5:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YesNoMaybeSo wrote:

@ MasterDebator You’ve got to be kidding me, Iraq is Obama’s fault..lol..get real.

Jun 10, 2014 5:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mohamedmohsen wrote:

I thank Egyptian Military for safety and Security we R in, we are glad we got rid of the brotherhood and its subsidiaries

Jun 10, 2014 5:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MikeHockey wrote:

Indeed this is horrible news coming out of Iraq, however good people must take a stand & fight this evil. It’s so easy for all the fools posting here today to blame this on Bush but people don’t want to acknowledge the reality that he ousted a ruthless dictator & brought freedom & democracy to Iraq! Good will eventually prevail in the end & these terrorists will be in for a very rude awakening on judgment day.

Jun 10, 2014 6:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MikeHockey wrote:

Indeed this is horrible news coming out of Iraq, however good people must take a stand & fight this evil. It’s so easy for all the fools posting here today to blame this on Bush but people don’t want to acknowledge the reality that he ousted a ruthless dictator & brought freedom & democracy to Iraq! Good will eventually prevail in the end & these terrorists will be in for a very rude awakening on judgment day.

Jun 10, 2014 6:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
billieshears wrote:

There goes 2 triliion dollars and 4,500 U.S. soldiers killed for absolutely nothing

The Iraq war was wildly sucessful for the g-7 nations. An oil pipeline from
Northern Iraq to a Turkish port was just completed, China built
an airport to transport their to and from the oil wells,
Mosul fell but no oil wells. What do you want to
control piles of sand or a quarter of the worlds oil.
China controls,

Jun 10, 2014 6:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bates148 wrote:

It’s appalling to see left-wing ideologists claim this tragedy as a political win. Especially since the group that took over Mosul is an al Qaeda splinter group. The same organization that Barack Obama has touted as being “on the run.”

Seems to be yet another lie…

Jun 10, 2014 6:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SR37212 wrote:

Bush had Iraq and Obama had his Arab Spring and …… oops looks like it’s all working it’s way back to where it began…. Lesson to be learned? Stop interfering and meddling in other people’s business… we aren’t good at it.

Jun 10, 2014 6:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RexMax46 wrote:

Mission Accomplished?

Jun 10, 2014 6:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Neurochuck wrote:

After the Islamic State has seized provinces in Iraq as well as Syria, rather than fighting Shia Iran, they might be motivated to overthrow the Gulf monarchies to “liberate”/jihad the Sunni believers from the Western backed rulers, control the holy places like Mecca, and the Haj, and of course the oil and gas fields and all that money and power.
And the US and Israel would try to switch sides and try to empower Iran.
Mission Missing In Action.

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JoeSchmoe123 wrote:

At least President Obama nailed the terrorist where he lived. Bush/Cheney/Republicans were a bit off, to the tune of War Crimes.

Jun 10, 2014 8:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
4825 wrote:

This is just one more failed Obama policy in a long line of failures. Yes it is Obama’s failure. He has been in control now for over five years now and his chickens are coming home to roost. The absolute worst president this country has ever had. Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Russia, border control and the list of Obama failures just continues to climb. Maybe, just maybe, the country can survive another two years of this joker.

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TastySalmon wrote:

It’s odd that so few people have made the connection of ISIL in Iraq and ISIL in Syria (I didn’t expect Reuters to voluntarily bring this up since they’re intent on sacrificing 18 year old Americans for some unknown cause in Syria).

We voluntarily funded ISIL and gave them weapons in Syria, but in Iraq, they’re our enemies. Interesting. Perhaps the take-home message is that Muslim radicals are always our enemies.

Unfortunately no one will ever learn from this, because it’s exactly what Bush Co. and Obama knew would happen.

Instead of saying we’re funding and training fundamentalist radicals in Syria, we are giving arms to “moderates.” There are no moderates fighting Assad because the moderates are in Assad’s military. The so-called moderates who we have given the arms to take Mosul are not fighting for women’s rights or for religious freedoms. Sadly, those already existed in Syria, but we’re funding peasant thugs to eradicate human rights and religious freedom.

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Reality2Day wrote:

@TastySalmon wrote:

It’s odd that so few people have made the connection of ISIL in Iraq and ISIL in Syria

We voluntarily funded ISIL and gave them weapons in Syria, but in Iraq, they’re our enemies.

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Do research, they are one and the same.

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (see below) , abbreviated as ISIL or ISIS, is an active militant group in Iraq and Syria. It was established in the early years of the Iraq War and pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004. Al-Qaeda now even views ISIL as extreme.

The Levant today consists of the island of Cyprus, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, and part of southern Turkey .

Jun 10, 2014 10:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Bush and the Neocons thought, “Mission Accomplished”… they figured that their plan had worked for the benefit of its main backers: Defense, Israel & Energy, (DIE), the politically powerful consortium of death in the Middle East.

But when the dust had settled, the Iraqis balked; they said, “NO”, to the Status Of Forces Agreement, (SOFA).

As a result of the breakdown of law and order in Iraq, Israel is now in more danger, not less danger from Islamic terror.

And the Chinese, not the US-EU Energy giants, won the contracts to pump Iraq’s oil.

Defense, Israel and Energy gambled big and they lost big. Now, thousands of innocent people will be slaughtered, as the Neocon’s doomed experiment implodes into chaos.

Jun 10, 2014 10:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RexMax46 wrote:

@4825

Why can’t we see your previous comments?

Jun 11, 2014 1:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Quest4Truth wrote:

These ISIL militants are definitely the most dangerous beasts today world has seen.
They are absolutely deprived of any trace of humanity.
Thanks U.S for nourishing them!

Jun 11, 2014 4:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ajsfca wrote:

I wonder how Barack Obama sleeps at night without the help of drugs?

Jun 11, 2014 6:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ajsfca wrote:

By the way, this must just be more “baloney”.

Jun 11, 2014 6:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse
boreal wrote:

There is sort of policy floating around in merchant land that states if you broke it you own it. Let’s see who broke Iraq. Oh yes, someone whispered an unconvincing story in the ears of the US about Iraq’s non existing nuclear program and its illegal chemical labs rolling around on train tracks in specially built cars during the still of the night. The rest is history; costing the US thousands of lives of their daughters and sons, plus trillions of dollars, its reputation and a stirred up hornets’ nest.

Jun 11, 2014 6:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JackHerer wrote:

Whatever was achieved in Iraq by the sacrifices of our brave servicemen and women, it is now clearly being undone.

Extremism and chaos now runs amok in the region.

The only ones currently fighting this extremism are the moderates in Syria, including the Kurds. They are the ones at war with ISIS.

Assad meanwhile, has been releasing the worst extremists, because extremism suits his brutal and cruel campaign against innocents. Extremism is Assad’s excuse for the sick actions of his forces.

If Assad was truly fighting extremism, then that’s where his forces would target first and foremost. Instead however, his forces ignore ISIS, and instead target, torture and murder the moderates.

Western inaction only helps the worst people – the U.N. labeled war criminal Assad, and the extremists he has cultured and festered upon the world.

Anyone claiming that the West has been funding and arming ISIS is either woefully ignorant of the facts, or, like Assad and his best mate Putin, shamefully corrupt.

Jun 11, 2014 7:13am EDT  --  Report as abuse

Bush & Cheney should be doing time in a federal prison; starting an elective war based upon lies and half-truths has got to be a high crime. Those two jokers got away with murder.

Jun 11, 2014 7:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
GeorgeBMac wrote:

Nice going George Bush! Iraq was stable and had no signs of Islamic militants before you “freed” it. You didn’t free the Iraqi people, you freed the Islamic militants to attack, first the people of Iraq and then us.

Jun 11, 2014 7:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paintcan wrote:

@jackHerrer- The Saudis have a lot of reasons to stir up trouble for religious and political reasons. One could reasonably suspect that Assad and company have their hands full trying to keep their own heads and really have no time or motivation to stir up troubles elsewhere. What possible good would Mosul do them? It’s the fearful, affluent and stable world powers who are probably the biggest trouble makers everywhere. They use their resources and stable conditions to expand their own agenda and destabilize others. I doubt Assad and company have much room for a larger agenda.

@New York Loner – they got away with murder- actually mass murder – and they also reduced Iraq’s stake in it’s own oil resources to between 15 and 40 percent depending on the field. This country has the most voracious appetite for fuel on the planet, and one of the highest standards of living, and the Chinese ar rapidly becoming the second largest appetite, with a rising standard of living. When the maintenance of that standard is the priority, and it is for everybody, what’s mass murder matter except to those with tender consciences? You just have to use euphemisms and a lot of patriotic double talk and selective reasoning to justify it. And that’s what has been done for the past 13 years.

It’s easy to see that if this country’s standard of living fell greatly, hundreds of millions would be screaming for anyone who could promise to tear apart anyone who had what we wanted. And so many would be agreeing with them (for good reasons or not), it’s sickening to think about.

This country has become Hitler lite with better manners and a far less painful or puritanical Reich for the majority. If it is painful for many it’s well within legal limits so far – more or less – depending on how you define “legal” and how good your lawyers are.

The world is usually disgusting, historically speaking. But just think, someday it will be our turn to have our bones picked, our live s shattered and the skin melted from our bones. I hope I’m dead before I ever have to see that.

Isn’t the core definition of a “patriot” believing the sorry excuses and justifications for everyone else’s lousy behavior?

Jun 11, 2014 12:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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