Texas governor says he 'stepped right in it' on gay comments

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peterepeat wrote:

The irony of all of this is that it occurred in San Francisco. What the heck is Perry doing in California, his archenemy? Poaching business? It is such a treat to see him squirm.

Native Texan here – we’re sick and tired of King Perry.

Jun 20, 2014 9:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@4825

What he said was offensive. You can say what you want but there will always be consequences. A President has to preside over everyone, I don’t want a far right version of Obama further dividing the country.

Jun 20, 2014 10:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse

QuidProQuo wrote:
“No matter whether it’s genetic or not, I will never, ever, ever see the normalcy behind two guys wanting to do it together. Sorry, it just totally weirds me out.”

You know what? It weirds me out, too. The thought of two guys going at it disgusts me. So you know what I do? I DON’T THINK ABOUT IT!!! Gay people don’t need my approval to live their lives, and I’m arrogant enough to think that I get to give it. Who made you the arbiters of social acceptability? No one, that’s who. Your opinion is no more or less valid those of the gays you persecute. Just give them the same rights and privileges that gay people enjoy, then shut up and mind your own business – isn’t that what America is all about? You all seem to have gotten so caught up in your self-determined superiority that you have forgotten that simple fact.

Jun 20, 2014 10:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tatman wrote:

leave it up to the conservatives to preach “inclusion” via words, then take steps to exclude, harass, intimidate, stigmatize and disenfranchise through their actions. as a gay man, i can say that this is not something i chose. nor is this something i can just switch off and deny, in an attempt to “fit in” and placate the ignorant among our society who are consumed by intolerance and hatred. as a teenager, my deeply religious parents tried to force me into conversion therapy — something mr. perry advocates. this did significant harm to me, and pushed me to the brink of suicide as a teenager struggling to grapple with who i was while faced with abusive opposition by my family. thankfully there were teachers and other adults who saw what was happening and extended their support through understanding and compassion. needless to say, i have been disowned by my family because of my orientation.

no straight person will ever be able to sincerely know what it’s like to be subjected to this type of intolerance, bigotry and hatred. the only similarity i can think of that even comes close is racism, and there are still millions of people in this country who live with the hatred against them because of who they are and the color of their skin.

for those in a position of authority like mr. perry to open his mouth and reinforce the principles of intolerance, whether it be through a lack of understanding, ignorance, or a pandering to extreme elements of his party, is not only wrong, it is completely inappropriate. i live in texas, and am deeply ashamed by the message this man sends not only to me and my fellow texans, but to the rest of the country and the world at large.

Jun 20, 2014 10:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

Mr. Perry lends a whole new meaning to the word buffoon. This man really thinks we would elect him as president of the United States? Dictator Grover Norquist, author of the no-new-taxes pledge most congressional republicans and libertarians signed, once said he and his paymasters didn’t want people who could think. They just wanted people who would take their money and mindlessly spew their propaganda. Mission accomplished dictator Norquist.

Jun 20, 2014 10:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

Yes, Governor Perry stepped right on it. But he is a Republican, so there is no need for a real apology, is there??!!

Gov. Perry, stick with your little state job. You’re not ready for anything bigger.

Jun 20, 2014 10:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

Quid Pro Quo

Look forward to seeing how your views on homosexuality change when your kids or grandchildren — come out of the closet to you as gay people!

Jun 20, 2014 10:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
QuietThinker wrote:

Gov. Perry is actually thinking of moving to California, if the President thing doesn’t work out for him. Having made a mess of Texas, and made a fortune for himself doing it, he is thinking about leaving. See reports in LA Times, Dallas Morning News, or other newspapers (you still read papers don’t you?).

Jun 20, 2014 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

mjp1958, Your assumption that anyone would have a problem with a relative “coming out of the closet” says a lot about your character.

You are projecting your fear, bigotry and hatred onto others.

Jun 20, 2014 11:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
libertas wrote:

There is no credible evidence that homosexuality is genetic. Anthropologists have done a great deal of research on the history of homosexual behavior. Until some time in the 20th century homosexual behavior was something one ‘did’ not something one ‘was’. It is only with the rise of the gay rights movement that we have seen this attempt to define homosexuality as a genetic attribute. Bottom line, we are granting privileges based on a choice, not genetics.

By the way, most of the anthropologists doing the research were gay.

Jun 20, 2014 11:37am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

“Having made a mess of Texas” – Wow, you really stepped in it. Texas has probably the strongest economy and best job growth of any state in the nation and you claim he made a mess of it. Guess we don’t have to hold your statements in high regard.

Jun 20, 2014 11:50am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

“It is a shame when in our country you can not speak the truth anymore fore fear of offending …”

I agree with this statement, however, the problem is that he is not speaking the truth. Freedom of speech means that the government cannot prosecute you for your beliefs and speech, not that you cannot be held accountable in the court of public opinion and discourse. He is simply being held accountable for his intentionally stated ignorance.

I didn’t choose to be “straight”, I just am. It’s the same for LGBT people who should not be discriminated against for this.

Just because we have not specifically identified a gene sequence that results in this trait, like a lot of other traits, does not mean that Rick Perry was correct.

Even when this is eventually proven, he may not believe it anyway. Look at climate science, 97% of scientists studying climate science reach the same conclusion and yet the GOP lives in denial of it. Typical GOP political response “hey, I’m no scientist”, then just ignore scientific facts that dispute your campaign donors financial interests.

Jun 20, 2014 11:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

gregbrew56

Think what you will. Most Republicans and other close-minded people would have a rude awakening if a family member came out to them as gay. I have witnessed it myself — so there!

Jun 20, 2014 12:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

Governor Perry:

When will you be apologizing for your stupid remarks? When?

Jun 20, 2014 12:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

4825 wrote:
“It is a shame when in our country you can not speak the truth anymore fore fear of offending this group or that group.”

It seems that you are misunderstanding the concept of “Free Speech”. Free speech means that you can say whatever you want without fear of the government taking legal action against you. It does not mean that you can say whatever you want and not face any consequences for your words.

Free speech does not mean that you get to go into Boston and start talking crap about the Patriots, and everyone has to sit there and like it – if you do, you’re probably going to face some harsh words back at you.

Rick Perry spoke his mind, as he is free to do, and the government is not prosecuting him for his words. That is free speech. However, those words offended some people, and they spoke out against it – that is THEIR free speech. You see, free speech doesn’t just apply to you and your ilk – it applies to us all, equally.

If you want any more lessons on what it means to be an American, just let me know – I’m happy to explain it.

Jun 20, 2014 12:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RexMax46 wrote:

@4825

Why can’t we see you previous comments?

Jun 20, 2014 12:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cheeze wrote:

What a crock, the man is entitled to his opinion, and people should have respect for it. The media has become “whimps” and are afraid to offend this group or that group. Let’s face it folks, no matter what the issue, stereotypes did not just happen in the history of the US, the groups associated with them have proven over time the general publics perception of them is correct. The denial can continue, for political correctness, but that still does not change the fact that certain groups of people behave the way they do out of dysfunction. The time will come when everybody will answer to the good lord.

Jun 20, 2014 12:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Perry didn’t step in “it”. He is “it”.

Jun 20, 2014 1:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Statistician wrote:

I apologize if this seems off-topic. BeRealistic wrote “Texas has probably the strongest economy and best job growth of any state in the nation and you claim he made a mess of it.”

However, the state has been so short of funds that it has decided to let some of its roads revert to unpaved. This hardly seems to argue for a strong economy. How can one let infrastructure go and expect to attract business that require logistics. Here is a link to the discussion: http://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/19/conversion-of-roads-to-gravel-met-with-concern/

Jun 20, 2014 1:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

Gov. Perry says he “stepped right in it”, with his remarks, but fails to mention that the “it” he stepped in was a stinking pile of his own making. He laid down that fertilizer when he previously stated that he supports the “Gay Reparative Therapy” platform plank of the Texas GOP.
I would label Gov. Perry a buffoon, but that would be heartlessly unkind to buffoons. What is even more disturbing is that the people of Texas have repeatedly elected this guy to public office … even knowing that he brings discredit and embarrassment to the state of Texas every time he opens his mouth. How foolish is that?

Jun 20, 2014 1:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

The only thing Rick Perry steps in is his own mouth – with his own foot. Foot in mouth disease.

Jun 20, 2014 1:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheWhiteLine wrote:

“What a crock, the man is entitled to his opinion, and people should have respect for it.”

Sigh – OK, once again:

Yes to the first part of that – NO to the second. Certainly I respect his right to say what he wants, but if what comes out of someone’s mouth is drivel I have no obligation to respect the content.

Jun 20, 2014 1:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Statistician – expanding on what you said: Rick Perry didn’t CREATE any new jobs for Texas, he merely POACHED them from other states. He travels around the country and promises tax credits and deregulation (paid for on the dime of the tax-paying citizens of Texas) to business that already exist in other states if they move to Texas.

Basically, he lures them to Texas with promises of free money. So the net job creation in the United States is ZERO. That’s not job creation, that’s job poaching, and it doesn’t help our economy at all.

Jun 20, 2014 1:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

cheeze: Where do you get the idea that we’re supposed to “respect” any publicly stated opinion? Are you serious? You seem to be God fearin’. There’s an art piece called “Piss Christ,” which is a crucifix in a jar of piss. Do you respect THAT opinion? When Bush was President Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks made a comment to an audience in London: “Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas.” They were publicly crucified (no pun intended) for the comment. Who was wrong, those commenting on Natalie’s comment or the comment itself? (Personally, I had enormous respect for that particular opinion and for the courage and honest woman who expressed it.)

USofRationality did an excellent job of summing it all up in his post (above). I really can’t improve on that. We’re free to give our opinion, but the other side of free speech is that we must be willing to suffer the consequences for expressing our opinions. Opinions on other opinions are also part of free speech.

Rick Perry is a slow witted neanderthal. He’s a perfect example of what is wrong with this country. He raises his campaign cash by agreeing to pass legislation favorable to the highest bidder. Beyond that he lacks the intelligence and compassion to be a good leader. And I’m willing to suffer any consequences that come my way for expressing that opinion.

Jun 20, 2014 1:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BATTMAN wrote:

From the man with a hunting lodge named Niggerhead? Yeah right!

Jun 20, 2014 2:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Amwatching2c wrote:

Stay in Texass, Mr. Parry, to many dumb axes in D.C. already. How many people in Texas have no health ins., in poverty and poisoned by big oil contamination? What are you doing to prevent more chemical plants from detonating with unknown substances?

Take off the glasses, the weight will lower your IQ at least 50%.

Jun 20, 2014 2:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
QuietThinker wrote:

@BeRealistic
I will grant you that Texas has the strongest economy in the country. This is due to 1) oil & gas 2) right to work and 3) no income tax. The last two date back to Democratic governors & legislatures. The first was God’s doing not Rick Perry’s.

Jun 20, 2014 2:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BGoldberg wrote:

Okay, homosexuals didn’t choose to be the way they are, they were born that way, that seems to be the final word on why two men like to do it together. I agree with another poster (whose post was deleted) that it’s just weird for some of us to comprehend and we wouldn’t be forced to “think” about it so much if it wasn’t always shoved down our throats as the most wonderful thing in the world to accept and embrace. Here’s a fact, some are “born” gay, doesn’t mean that everyone else who wasn’t born that way thinks that the genetic anomaly is something to be all woo hoo about and see as some wonderful and spectacular thing. And if they don’t want it to be everyone’s business then why don’t some of the really noisy pro gay freaks shut up and get out of everyone’s face with their genetic issues?

Jun 20, 2014 2:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
simbolistic wrote:

I think Rick Perry was “coming out”. Only a homosexual who was abstaining from Homo-sex would know what it felt like.

Jun 20, 2014 4:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
simbolistic wrote:

on second thought…What Rick Perry said was, its ok for us heterosexuals to have hetro-sex but, as 2nd class citizens, Homosexuals need to abstain from homo-sex because it offends us.
I would ask Mr Perry that abstaining from hetro-sex doesn’t make a heterosexual any less heterosexual so why would abstaining from homo-sex make a homosexual any less a homosexual?

Jun 20, 2014 4:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

“…those are the focuses I want to be involved with…”
Who talks like that? This man is just not very intelligent. He reminds me too much of Bush (which would explain why conservatives like Perry. The mind shutters.)

Jun 20, 2014 5:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

The substance of this news story, as with any news story regarding equal rights and benefits for same sex marriage, seems entirely beyond the ability of some of you to comprehend. As several of you have made clear with your comments, you simply can’t get past your mental fixation on, quote: “two guys ‘doing it’ with each other.”

To summarize what some of you are using as the foundation of your arguments, you are saying that “marriage” is just about “doing it with each other.” Well, if that is truly how you define what your own marriages mean to you, then your spouses have my deepest sympathy.

After the death of my mother, my father remarried at age 92, his bride was age 91. Were I to have pressed them to list all of the reasons for their wanting to be married, their list would have been love, companionship, security, sharing, caring, etc.
I sincerely doubt that “doing it with each other” would have been in their top 10.

Gay people do not need to be married in order to “do it with each other”, any more than straight people need to be married to “do it with each other.” Gay people want to marry for the very same reasons as straight people, to express their love, their commitment, their desire to give themselves to each other and to be a family.

You folks might be able to understand, if you could just get past your fixations on “doing it.”
Most children outgrow the latency period of their psychosexual development by the time they are through puberty, in mid-adolescence. Unfortunately others remain stuck in psychosexual immaturity.
So for all of you who are stuck in your immature sexual fixations, let me just put it in the most simple terms for you:

It’s not about sex. It’s about love.

Jun 20, 2014 6:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Hope he runs for President again. Beating him was fun. Okay, Rick? Rick! Rick! Rick Rick Rick!

Jun 20, 2014 7:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AngelGreen wrote:

Science and homosexuality. Is homosexuality a behavior that one can opt in or opt out of it? Or is it natural in the genes and can be transmitted through genes to descendants? Has science studied homosexuality in genes? All ambiguity about the topic will be clear then.

Jun 20, 2014 10:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

Why spend our limited medical research dollars studying something so unimportant, which is merely a curiosity, and only to some? Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal kingdom. It has been observed in all species of primates, including the great apes (human’s closest relatives). Why would it not also occur in Homo sapiens?

Same sex preference does not harm anyone (other than the bigoted sensibilities of the intolerant in our society, of course). It is no more sensible to make a judgment about a person because of their sexual preference, than it is to judge them by the color of their eyes, or the size of their nose.

People are just people. We are all different, unique, …but we are all equal.

Jun 21, 2014 2:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RexMax46 wrote:

cheeze wrote:
“What a crock, the man is entitled to his opinion, and people should have respect for it. The media has become “whimps” and are afraid to offend this group or that group.”

The real wimps are the people who want to express their opinions, yet can’t handle hearing other people’s differing opinions.

Jun 21, 2014 3:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
RexMax46 wrote:

@BGoldberg wrote:
“And if they don’t want it to be everyone’s business then why don’t some of the really noisy pro gay freaks shut up and get out of everyone’s face with their genetic issues?”

Because if they aren’t noisy, they won’t get the equal protection of rights that was supposed to be guaranteed by the 14th Amendment..

Jun 21, 2014 3:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

AngelGreen wrote: “Science and homosexuality. Is homosexuality a behavior that one can opt in or opt out of it? Or is it natural in the genes and can be transmitted through genes to descendants?”

You may want to re-think this!

Jun 23, 2014 11:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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