Obama blasts House Republicans over lawsuit threat

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Yashmak wrote:

I’m sure he mocked the suit involving the recess appointments too, right up until the SCOTUS unanimously agreed the appointments were indeed an executive branch overreach.

Jun 27, 2014 11:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SR37212 wrote:

It’s all well and good to say president ‘A’ signed x-number and president ‘B’ signed y-number of executive orders but that’s like saying two people are equally wealthy because they each have 3 pieces of US money when person ‘A’s are $1000 dollar bills and person ‘B’s are $1 dollar bills…. They still each have 3.

I can understand the presidents exasperation and can sympathize with him but the fact remains his job is to implement laws passed by congress not make up his own.

Jun 27, 2014 11:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

“Obama mocks”…etc.

An astonishing demonstration of incompetence!

Imagine a CEO mocking his board of directors!

Jun 27, 2014 11:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
rlm328 wrote:

He is correct this is just a stunt. What judge is going to take the case? How long is it going to take to go through all of the various appeals, etc 2, 3, 4 years? he will be out of office by then.

Who is going to enforce the judgement if it goes against him, Holder? Please. And even if Holder decided to implemement the decision, and that is a very large if indeed, what makes anyone think this president will change his ways, then what?

It is a waste of CO2 for all the global warming folks out there.

Jun 27, 2014 11:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
RickPlehal wrote:

Obama is saying that since Congress does not do what HE WANTS, he will do it himself. Why do we need Congress in the first placed. With an all knowing President there is little need for others. Why don’t we just save the time and money? Surely Holder had something to do with all his spare time, he is certainly not doing anything now. By the way, how did the FBI investigate the IRS and find “not a smidgen” of wrongdoing when there were no emails ( sorry, all lost) to investigate??? Hmmmm…..

Jun 27, 2014 11:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ineeditbad wrote:

There you go…The American Middle Class is being Wiped Out and Obama cares about Immigrants…Freakin Unbelievable! For 7 Months, I have been fighting for my Unemployment Insurance with the State of NH. A Completely Corrupt Government who only cares about Corporations! The Governor of NH is “Maggie” Hassan. What a Contradiction huh???

Jun 27, 2014 11:44am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BioStudies wrote:

It’s not the number of executive orders but what is inside them that matters. As usual a misrepresentation of the facts by Reuters.

Jun 27, 2014 11:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Stickystones wrote:

Let SCOTUS to decide whose stunts are legal! I’m sure you’ll call them a circus next. Barry better hope the Dem’s keep the Senate, otherwise Congress won’t need SCOTUS’s help removing him if this lawsuit is validated.

Jun 27, 2014 11:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

astroz wrote:
‘The difference in Mr. Obama and previous presidents is that he doesn’t use Executive Authority to modify EXISTING laws, but rather, he creates or completely violates them.’

You have any examples or proof of any kind? I’m betting not.

Jun 27, 2014 11:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CSParty wrote:

Obama is a fool and acting like one. I find it interesting that the only time he tried to work with the GOP was for Obamacare. The GOP asked for 2 things, insurance across state lines and tort reform, neither of which made it in. Considering the SCOTUS decision yesterday, I sense Obama a little nervous over this. If found guilty, I would hope the Impeachment proceedings would begin promptly. Unfortunately, he will already be out of office before this is over.

Jun 27, 2014 11:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CSParty wrote:

SunnyDaySam wrote: “”You have any examples or proof of any kind?”" Changing the rules to Obamacare. Do you know what is needed to modify a “LAW”?

Jun 27, 2014 12:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

Well stated BioStudies….the Obama bias by Reuters is once again clearly on display for all to see. It is getting more and more difficult to respect their brand of “journalism”.

Jun 27, 2014 12:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
beofaction wrote:

Whether the suit is a stunt or not it is way too late! The spineless of both parties in Congress should have been protecting the Constitution and their own power as vested therein. Now they complain! Where were they when Obama nominated to the Supreme Court – the highest court of the land – a person who had never been a judge?!!! Yes, folks, you missed your chance to apply for that position someone else got it! Congress did nothing. Not one peep. So, now we have an academician with ZERO experience as a judge sitting on the bench for the rest of her life. That, of course, was only the beginning. Obama has acted with impunity because he’s black, and everyone fears the “race card” – which is quickly played by all of the PACS and so-called “grass roots” organizations at his and his supporters’ behest. They’ve created a monster. It wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t so darned near incompetent. I never thought I would see another president as bad – actually worse – than Jimmy Carter!

Jun 27, 2014 12:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ineeditbad wrote:

RickPlehal wrote:

Obama is saying that since Congress does not do what HE WANTS, he will do it himself. Why do we need Congress in the first placed. With an all knowing President there is little need for others. Why don’t we just save the time and money? Surely Holder had something to do with all his spare time, he is certainly not doing anything now. By the way, how did the FBI investigate the IRS and find “not a smidgen” of wrongdoing when there were no emails ( sorry, all lost) to investigate??? Hmmmm…..

What you saying is that Obama is a Dictator. No arguments here.

Jun 27, 2014 12:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

Hey there SunnyDay….how about the flat refusal to execute clearly written deportation laws on the estimated 20 million of people here illegally…..including 67,000 in 2013 alone that had felony records (including rape and murder). I suppose that is okay with you since Obama did it? Bottom line…we’ve never had such an arrogan president in the history of this nation and if left unchecked, the Legislative Branch will lose the power to create laws as demanded by our Constitution.

Jun 27, 2014 12:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

Aren’t the hysterical Bush haters still whining to this day about how he supposedly did things without Congress? I guess this is different though. As long as it’s YOUR guy doing stuff without Congress, then it’s OK.

Yes, every president has done it. But there’s a big difference between doing something that revolves around the country being attacked, and doing it for average stuff that you prefer to force through, because you just don’t want to deal with the system. Historically, more power is deferred to the President in a time of war, or homeland threats. Immigration is something different.

Jun 27, 2014 12:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
fwupow wrote:

Notice that President Obama doesn’t once mention what he wants to do but hides his agenda in codespeak. “Immigration Reform” could mean anything. Saying that there’s “widespread support for change” doesn’t mean that people want just ANY old change. This is a case of the Prez trying to impose HIS desired changes over the objections of Republicans and a considerable portion of the general public as well.

Jun 27, 2014 12:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tmc wrote:

Wow, and I thought Reuters had reasonable, thoughtful commenters. But alas it seems the majority are just political lemmings following party spewed hatreds and FUD. Are there no intelligent, self thinking people left in this country?

Jun 27, 2014 12:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Zeelad wrote:

Just watched the CNN special on the 1960′s. Whatever Martin Luther King was, Obama is NOT! King along with JFK, then Johnson was a motivator, a consensus builder who worked both sides of the aisles. Bottom line is that Obama is the most inept leader ever, but then he is also the most inexperienced. He also is not half the Christian MLK was. And he has nothing in common with the Black slave heritage of 99% of our black Americans. We can’t wait for this presidency to be over!!

Jun 27, 2014 12:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
nipp wrote:

All these people pointing out that this article highlights Obama’s misuse of the office of the president….. no one bothered to read to the bottom of the article where they can see that he has issued fewer executive actions than the previous three presidents. If you think Obama is in the wrong then you are willfully blind and you are in fact the problem with our country. We don’t need more obstructionist in this country, we have plenty in congress

Jun 27, 2014 12:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

Obama is the stunt.

Jun 27, 2014 12:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
js2012 wrote:

Of course, the suit is a mockery; every scandal involving Obama is either a mockery or a scandal! Long live King Obama!!

Jun 27, 2014 12:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gitmojo wrote:

The empty suit complaining about a lawsuit…..
His recourse is to make it disappear by executive order or just a wave of his rusty scepter.

Jun 27, 2014 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

Obama is the Lance Armstrong of politics. Keeps cheating to win, and keeps denying all the way. At least Lance came clean and faced the music.

Jun 27, 2014 12:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jthan wrote:

Somewhat disappointed in the reporting on this article. From what I’ve heard, the lawsuit centers on what the President has attempted to do with Executive orders, and whether or not he has the authority to do those, or if they fall in what should be checked and balanced by congress and the courts. The end of this article, saying other presidents have used executive orders, and more of them seems a disingenuous attempt to avoid the issue, if not a deliberate red herring.

Jun 27, 2014 12:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
frankkarlburn wrote:

Good going on both counts. Republicans exist to pass tax loopholes for their rich cronies, and to get mocked (plus arouse the voting rabble with wedge issues, of course).

Jun 27, 2014 12:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

My sentiments exactly Dr_Steve!

Jun 27, 2014 12:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tmc wrote:

Wow, and I thought Reuters had reasonable, thoughtful commenters. But alas it seems the majority are just political lemmings following party spewed hatreds and FUD. Are there no intelligent, self thinking people left in this country?

Jun 27, 2014 12:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Bohner posts selfie in neck brace. “Obama might call this a stunt, but my pain is REAL.”

Jun 27, 2014 12:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mmor0gmail wrote:

It gets so tiring to see the comparison to this administration to previous ones when it has no relevance. It doesn’t matter HOW MANY executive orders were issued, but the content of those orders. This President is using them primarily to alter laws, which is unconstitutional. As for a do nothing Congress always pointing to the Repub’s, how about the several hundred house bills that Reid refuses to introduce into the Senate? Total stalemate on both sides, but that doesn’t change the fact that the President is over stepping his authority.

Jun 27, 2014 12:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
EconCassandra wrote:

Failure to act by Congress does not mean the president automatically inherits the Congressional power to act as he personallly sees fit.

Obama has been flouting the US Constitution for quite some time, so much so that he has become a “clear and present danger” to the continued existence of this nation.

Impeach him without delay!

“High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Jun 27, 2014 12:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jthan wrote:

Somewhat disappointed in the reporting on this article. From what I’ve heard, the lawsuit centers on what the President has attempted to do with Executive orders, and whether or not he has the authority to do those, or if they fall in what should be checked and balanced by congress and the courts. The end of this article, saying other presidents have used executive orders, and more of them seems a disingenuous attempt to avoid the issue, if not a deliberate red herring.

Jun 27, 2014 12:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Msladyred wrote:

Mr President will you please do something for the 3million homeless unenployed it’s been 6 months now everyone is getting help except The American people.

Jun 27, 2014 12:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TomMariner wrote:

Enough! All of us including those who reelected our President are getting so tired of a Government by Speeches. We’re starting to understand that blatant, strident, mocking political campaigning has substituted for competent, experienced, trusted leadership.

Voters, please! The next time you go to the polls to elect anyone — first demand absolute integrity and a deep abiding, unshakable love for our country — JUST THE WAY IT IS! If we keep honoring dishonesty and cheap tricks and cheap talk, we will keep repeating the domestic and foreign policy disasters.

Jun 27, 2014 1:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

Hear, Hear EconCassandra! Remove him now or we the people should.

Jun 27, 2014 1:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

It seems that Mr. Malcontent’s true colors are bleeding through for all to see. After all, the synonyms for malcontent are :

troublemaker, mischief-maker, agitator, dissident, rebel, rabble-rouser)

Could there be any better definition for this angry man?

Jun 27, 2014 1:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
satori23 wrote:

It’s Cheney and Rumsfeld that you’re actually fighting… as far as I can discern from Europe.

Jun 27, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

Sadly, it is not just obama that needs to go. For the first time ever, the US has a “regime” in power that is bent on absolute destruction of the nation. The entire regime needs to be behind bars: obama, biden, reid, pelosi, jarrett, holder. There needs to be an immediate stop to the preferential and kid glove treatment of the aggressive and violent political group called Islam (it is NOT a religion or even a cult) and all of their affiliated hate groups and US based terror centers. Media execs at most MSM outlets need to be held criminally responsible for failing their public duty and the often outright public perpetration of lies (think intentional and slanderous editting of Zimmerman tapes to promote their false agenda). The nation is just about gone as the great land of equality, freedom, and opportunity that many of us knew, we need to reclaim what belongs to us. By us, I include all those of every nation, tongue, skin color, etc who are legally part of this nation and respect the law and their fellow citizens.

Jun 27, 2014 1:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Tarheel72 wrote:

Remarkable. He still uses the same mantra: if they don’t agree with everything I want and rubber stamp my requests then they are doing nothing and all of our problems are the result of the Republican controlled House. Obama may have a Harvard degree but he certainly doesn’t have a basic understanding of how a democratic republic functions.

Jun 27, 2014 1:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

“They don’t do anything except block me and call me names,” Obama said… and he ‘s right, for Job #1 for the Republicans, as they put it: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” (Mitch McConnell).
“The single most important thing…” – well, how about doing at least something that is important for the country?..

Jun 27, 2014 1:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YWontU wrote:

The main thing about Obama is that it is evident that he is assisting the expansion of political islam when the Americans should be doing everything they can to halt it, in their own country, and abroad, since it poses the single most threat against national and global security. Yet he has muslims in the white house, one who even maintains that America is an Islamic state. Obama has, without Congressional authority, turned Libya into another Afghanistan and is also funding the “freedom fighters” in Syria and the ISIS emergence is American backed. We all know these are islamist jihad psychopaths who are committing genocide. It appears that Obama is racist and that he is hell bent on destroying western civilisation.

Jun 27, 2014 1:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JohnChick wrote:

It is no wonder why this fella doesn’t have any friends.

Jun 27, 2014 1:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
stambo2001 wrote:

“They don’t do anything except block me and call me names,” Obama said

Well, the problem is that Conservatives won the House in 2010 because voters wanted to stop him. Congress is doing their job by representing the voters that put them there. Obama, by going around congress, is in true fact going around the wishes of the citizens that elected those representatives to stop him.

Obama HAS indeed broken many, many laws both internationally and domestically.
For examples:
- executive order to circumvent immigration deportation laws
- providing aid to countries overrun by military coup
- funding nuclear armed countries not signatories to the NPT
- executive privilege used to hide criminality of Attorney General
- alterations to Obamacare law
- warrant-less surveillance of all citizens
- extrajudicial assassination of citizens
- removing prisoners from Gitmo without 30 day notice to congress
- violating Sovereign and International Laws (kidnapping/assassination)
- cash settlements for banks laundering drug money
- industrial/technological sabotage

That’s just off the top of my head. Most Presidents break some laws, it’s just really rare to actually be held to account. Obama is a criminal and knows he’s a criminal. Worst, most evil man to ever be president of the USA. And he is evil, through and through.

Jun 27, 2014 1:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
1996MEdition wrote:

Typical Obama administration reaction. First mock it, then deny it, then blame it on someone else.

Jun 27, 2014 1:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jwillx wrote:

It’s a little sad to see a President stooping to
the level of mocking the law.

Jun 27, 2014 1:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
harry7738 wrote:

How many scotch on the rocks and barrooms in Georgetown were visited before Cruz could convince Boehner that a law suit was the only way to go????

Jun 27, 2014 1:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
harry7738 wrote:

It is amazing how many of you bloggers don’t know about the Constitution including the duties of both legislative chambers. For six years this Congress has done nothing but obstruct and table needed legislation and as a resulted has be rated as the lowest producing Congress in the history of the nation. Besides taking 50 dead end votes to repeal ACA and 39 votes to rid women of pro-choice, table immigration reform, refuse to extend unemployment benefits for 3.1 million Americans. pass Ryan’s disastrous “Plan to Prosperity” and reduce their own required working days to 90 per year—just what have these Republicans in Congress done for Joe American?

Jun 27, 2014 2:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Boy, lots of Obama Derangement Syndrome on this thread! btw; where is the GOP House Immigration Bill? Haven’t heard anything about it… but then again, it’s the most do-nothing Congress in history.

Jun 27, 2014 2:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

harry7738
There is a problem there – but the levity is appreciated.

Jun 27, 2014 2:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lag46 wrote:

Mr. President,

If Boehner loses, you were doing your job; if Boehner wins, you were abusing your office – wait and see. Don’t be so thin-skined; you complained incessantly about President Bush and he did’t whine about it.

Jun 27, 2014 2:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chuck2 wrote:

Rather easy to see what the R/Tea Potty talking points were for this week, as their minions and talking heads/parrots boringly on same theme. But this is they way the droids act, so nothing new there, let someone send them the message and off they go, again. Kind of like the idiots on Iraq, now attacking O for not bombing, pulling troops and related. Same old same ole, “R wanna cracker, just say this”

Jun 27, 2014 2:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
chuck2 wrote:

Rather easy to see what the R/Tea Potty talking points were for this week, as their minions and talking heads/parrots boringly on same theme. But this is they way the droids act, so nothing new there, let someone send them the message and off they go, again. Kind of like the idiots on Iraq, now attacking O for not bombing, pulling troops and related. Same old same ole, “R wanna cracker, just say this”

Jun 27, 2014 2:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JKS926 wrote:

“but they’ve decided there going to sue me for doing my job.” This is probably one of the worst grammatical errors I’ve ever seen in a Reuters report. “There”! That’s ridiculous.

Jun 27, 2014 2:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lag46 wrote:

With Obama it has been “my way or the highway” from day one. Surprising a constitutional scholar would flaunt the United States Constitution. I hope the 53 percent have learned a lesson from his Presidency.

Jun 27, 2014 2:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BillChuck wrote:

If Obama were a leader he would figure out how to work with the other side to compromise and get something done. The fact that he’s never been a leader is showing day by day.
Think Reagan and Clinton; both had to work across the isle to get things done and that’s why they are considered two of our most popular Presidents.

Jun 27, 2014 2:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tmc wrote:

Wow, and I thought Reuters had reasonable, thoughtful commenters. But alas it seems the majority are just political lemmings following party spewed hatreds and FUD. Are there no intelligent, self thinking people left in this country?

Jun 27, 2014 2:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mrnukem wrote:

This is why we have the Supreme Court, to decide what is constitutional and what isn’t, if the law suit goes before the court it will have a huge effect on the executive power of both democrat and republican presidents in the future, either expanding executive powers or curtailing them.

Jun 27, 2014 2:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
stambo2001 wrote:

@chuck2 it was the dems that invented the process when bush was president. Whiner.

Jun 27, 2014 2:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bbazz wrote:

Thank God somebody in Washington is doing something! Go Prez! Do nothing Republicans will be the end of this nation.

Jun 27, 2014 2:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

“where is the GOP House Immigration Bill?” Where is enforcment of the more than adequate laws that already exist? Oh, yeah, obama is wiping his a** with those.

Really Sunny, how can you be so blind and protective of absolute failure? BTW, the House is doing plenty, just trying to minimize the overt destruction that obama and the left has in mind, you know, checks and balances, their job. Unlike the criminal in the White House who derides congress and the American population thinking he is above the law and outside of the checks and balances concept. YOUR mentality IS the problem in the nation; partisan blindness and a staunch refusal and avoidance of knowing or accepting truth

Jun 27, 2014 2:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
edgallagher wrote:

The whole concept of separation of powers and the sovereignty of the electorate over the government is lost on would be despots like Obama.

Jun 27, 2014 2:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
brotherkenny4 wrote:

The extent to which gerrymandering can limit the rate of decline for the GOP is increasingly less effective. The demographic trends are clear. It’s not that the DFL offers a good alternative, but that they offer a alternative. Silly little media tricks and the constant bombardment of false logic are also increasing less fruitful. So, here we go. This action show that there is a new level of desparation in the GOP. Heck, even the tea party trick of rebranding hasn’t really worked. I guess they never thought that americans don’t want representative to be so cruel and greedy. Ya know, I am not a big fan of the dems, but when you punch a dem in the face with facts, they usually capitulate. The GOP is a never ending parade of mystical magical belief based stupidy wrapped in denial, and all so the masters can be even more cruel to their chattle.

Jun 27, 2014 2:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

astroz wrote:
‘Hey there SunnyDay….how about the flat refusal to execute clearly written deportation laws…’

uh, wrong again. Here’s the facts:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/19/high-rate-of-deportations-continue-under-obama-despite-latino-disapproval/

that information probably wasn’t on Fox/GOP or Limbaugh, so you didn’t hear about it.

Jun 27, 2014 2:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

lag46 wrote:
‘With Obama it has been “my way or the highway” from day one.’

Really? remember this?:
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” Mitch McConnell 2010

Jun 27, 2014 2:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CashCash wrote:

Big money controls the legislative and executive branches. The rest is a dark comedy show intended to keep the public occupied and outraged in all the wrong directions, regardless of political inclination. Just browse all the comments here to see if it’s working.

Jun 27, 2014 2:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jack49 wrote:

The Republicans do nothing?… but block him and call him names? Gee, that sounds a little bit like blame shifting and projecting to me. Doesn’t Mr. Obama think that Congress, and “We The People” that it represents, deserves its day in court just like the liberal socialists?

Jun 27, 2014 2:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

almost every time a conservative speaks, he says the american people. and, just as often, they mean some of the people they know. the american people speak through elections. so, michael steel is talking through his hat when he says “The American people, their elected representatives, and the Supreme Court have all expressed serious concerns…”. steel is a smart guy. he knows when he’s lying. or, as many politicians call it, telling the truth. some of the people, some of the representatives, and, i hope, not the supreme court, have expressed concerns. the rest of us, the ones who won the election, not so much.

Jun 27, 2014 2:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
IBINUBU wrote:

Your Congressman is accessable to you. He is a member of your community. COngress is elected as the voice of the people in government. If they are blocking an action of Obama, it is because they are doing what they were elected to do. They are representing the people of their congressional district. When Obama does and end run around Congress, he does an end run around we the people. He thinks he knows better than everybody and that he has the right to impose his superior vision on all of us.

Jun 27, 2014 2:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JedJo wrote:

Yes, the president’s job is to implement laws that Congress passes. And the Congress’ job is to pass laws. This congress is the least productive in history. So every president since George Washington has used the authority given by the Constitution, to give executive orders. And the Supreme Court didn’t say Obama didn’t have this authority, they only ruled on the one instance of a recess appointments. They didn’t even say he couldn’t make recess appointments, just not ones when the recess is less than 10 days.

Jun 27, 2014 2:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TildenTime wrote:

Big crybaby. He has broken the law on several occasions and is now crying foul. The Supreme Court made the right call on this out of control president.

Jun 27, 2014 2:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Maunalani wrote:

#ImpeachObamaAdministration

Spread the word.

Jun 27, 2014 2:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

Yep, as expected, Gedge, when the mindless left and obama fans cannot argue based on the issues, then whiiiiip out the wornout race card.

Jun 27, 2014 2:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
feudi wrote:

Well Mr. President, the Supreme Court agrees with Boehner, at least on your illegal use of “recess appointments”…and they agree unanimously!

Jun 27, 2014 2:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
moonhill wrote:

Mommy-They’re calling me names!

Jun 27, 2014 3:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GSH10 wrote:

Bush Jr. opened the door to bypassing Congress with executive orders and President Obama followed in his steps, which he promised not to do. Both presidents were wrong. Usurping the Constitution is wrong. All Presidents, regardless of part affiliation must uphold the Constitution, which was written to prevent monarchs and dictatorship to provide a government by the people and for the people. Limitations of Executive Orders must be defined the Supreme Court’s interpretation. This is why the founders of the USA created three branches.

Jun 27, 2014 3:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dd606 wrote:

Even if Bush did the same thing, at least he was smart enough not to taunt the whole country with it. How smart is it to laugh stuff like this off, when you know that a big junk of the population doesn’t like it? Whether it’s right or wrong, doesn’t really matter. It’s not very bright to basically flip off half of the American public, and basically say… ‘You don’t like it?… So what… What are you going to do about it?’

Jun 27, 2014 3:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GaHack1 wrote:

Since when is it the job of the President to write laws ?

Jun 27, 2014 3:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Current20 wrote:

Executive orders do no more than direct the federal government in its actions – Obama’s decisions do not go against the laws passed by Congress, but clarify their ambiguities and direct resources which fall under his power as the leader of the executive branch of government. There is precedent for this set by every President before him.

Jun 27, 2014 3:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

IBINUBU wrote: ‘…They are representing the people of their congressional district….’

Really? Remember when 74% of us Americans opposed the GOP government shutdown (that cost our economy 24 billion dollars, btw) but they did it anyway because Grover Norquist told them to? I sure do. And that is NOT how anybody ‘represents’ their constituents. The GOP is nothing but blind ideologues anymore.

Jun 27, 2014 3:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Sounds like the Supremes will side with the house republicans.

9-0. What a score!

Jun 27, 2014 3:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mollywoods wrote:

What can we expect from a community organizer who has violated our constitution

Jun 27, 2014 3:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lucky12345 wrote:

President Obama should be called the Joker in Chief…

Jun 27, 2014 3:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Obama is right. They should be working to impeach and remove instead.

Jun 27, 2014 3:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

What else can you expect from our child-president when the supremes (ALL of them) give him the middle finger?

A temper tantrum? What a surprise!

Jun 27, 2014 3:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

About 75% of the comments would indicate that Obama has really touched a raw nerve with his continued thrashing of our Constitution and laws (even when Reuters tried to put their pro-Obama spin on it). The anger factor in this nation is about to boil over at this guy and his criminal team in the White House. Even Reuters can’t keep a lid on it anymore. About time!

Jun 27, 2014 3:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

The biggest bully on the play ground is being called out!

Jun 27, 2014 3:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Telstar wrote:

You are wrong. That was a laser narrow decision on the games being played at recess. Most of the drivel of conservatives is typical hot air. They have done NOT ONE THING on any of the areas, including jobs. They change their agenda hourly with one goal: Demonstrate utmost disrespect for POTUS.

Jun 27, 2014 3:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jerryball wrote:

Little do these dumb monkeys consider that they are tying the hands of future Republican Presidents. Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. I don’t think that diminishing one of the three checkmates of government relegates greater power to the diminishers. Some day it will be turned around with a Democratic Congress and a Republican President. Then will when these apes “turn nice.” In these kinds of partisan wars, nobody wins. Only fools think they do.

Jun 27, 2014 3:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jerryball wrote:

Little do these dumb monkeys consider that they are tying the hands of future Republican Presidents. Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. I don’t think that diminishing one of the three checkmates of government relegates greater power to the diminishers. Some day it will be turned around with a Democratic Congress and a Republican President. Then will when these apes “turn nice.” In these kinds of partisan wars, nobody wins. Only fools think they do.

Jun 27, 2014 3:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Knowingwon wrote:

It would be nice Roberta if you would also mention that it is not the number of executive actions, but the number of such controversial signings. Your readers are not as stupid as you think.

Jun 27, 2014 3:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“You commenters are all part of a conspiracy group – bent on demeaning our president. What a bunch of racist – this is all about race.” -xit007

I guess that the SCOTUS is unanimously racist too then, as they recently found his recess appointments an executive overreach. Your comment is a pitiful example of this administration’s true-believers resorting nearly instantly to accusations of racism whenever anyone disagrees with this President. It’s tiresome, it’s childish, and it’s flat out wrong-headed.

Jun 27, 2014 3:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jerryball wrote:

Little do these dumb monkeys consider that they are tying the hands of future Republican Presidents. Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. I don’t think that diminishing one of the three checkmates of government relegates greater power to the diminishers. Some day it will be turned around with a Democratic Congress and a Republican President. Then will when these apes “turn nice.” In these kinds of partisan wars, nobody wins. Only fools think they do. Sure a lot of seditionists on this blog today. I suppose they have to smooth their little egos and vanities that anybody cares what they plot from their cushy chair/sofa.

Jun 27, 2014 3:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

” For six years this Congress has done nothing but obstruct and table needed legislation and as a resulted has be rated as the lowest producing Congress in the history of the nation. ” -harry7738

This ignores the countless bills the House has sent to the Senate, only to have Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid deny them the opportunity to even be debated on the floor.

Jun 27, 2014 3:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

The only stunt is Harry Reid sitting on legislation to deliberately choke Congress giving Junior High Obama and his Pinhead Flotilla the excuse to act the injured party and to act a hero trying to do something for the country. It is all so transparent. The People of the United States are being played for fools by the deliberate malfeasance of Reid and our lower case president. Some of us know better.

Junior High Obama is once again lying to the country. He is the the root cause of many of our problems that he created in the first place and now thinks he will look like a saint trying to solve them. What a jerk. Let’s relocate the White House to the New Jersey Dismal Swamp where it rightfully belongs. It has become so toxic, all the Jersey Mosquitoes will die.

Jun 27, 2014 3:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Obsilutely wrote:

The same Supreme court that says money is free speech and decided to legalize bribery?

The same Supreme court that ruled a 35 foot barrier around abortion clinics is a violation of free speech while the 100 foot barrier around the supreme court is not?

This will blow over just like Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, birth certificates, Kenyan born, taking our guns, and all the rest of the ignorant, backwoods rumors and gossip the GOP has desperately spread to try and discredit a man who won the election twice.

Go ahead and impeach him so he can whoop you crybaby losers a third time :)

Jun 27, 2014 3:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
notthistime wrote:

Delusional to the very end. Well, history has shown that despots rarely leave of their own accord. Even when faced with the loss of his former supporters, he’s still screaming at everyone else. Blame blame blame. It’s unfortunate that they weren’t able to block his “signature achievement” (unbelievable to call it that), we might not be staring at another multi-trillion dollar Ponzi scheme. But, it’s probably Bush’s fault, after all. See you in November!

Jun 27, 2014 3:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BGoldberg wrote:

Indeed there is a time when executive order is needed. But Obama has an problem with the balance of power and checks and balance thing and so decides that if legislative approval is too much of a burden for him, he’s just going to go ahead do it anyway. I do not think Obama has attained skilled judgment, instead he relies solely on the implementation of slam through rules and laws. There are over 50 million people in this country who did NOT vote for him and there are Senators who must represent those people and ensure that the President does not thing he is just going to slam thing through without being accountable for those acts.

Jun 27, 2014 3:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JustProduce wrote:

Whatever the outcome, this will certainly be the most important event in Obama’s term as long as it makes it all the way through to the end. Win or lose, it will shadow Obamacare, the IRS, etc.
Unfortunate for him, the process may take long enough as to come to a conclusion once he has lost all Chicago-gangsta power.
Unfortunate for us, we will probably have to put up with him for the rest of his term.

Jun 27, 2014 3:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Redford wrote:

And the Supreme Court in rebuking Obama’s abuse of executive authority in making recess appointments, was that a stunt?

Jun 27, 2014 3:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlOliver wrote:

SunnyDaySam wrote: ”You have any examples or proof of any kind [of Obama creating or completely violating laws]?”

Then CSParty wrote: “Changing the rules to Obamacare. Do you know what is needed to modify a “LAW”?

Is that the best ya got for “breaking the constitution” CS Party? Pretty lame. Let me explain:

So righties hate Obamacare and waste everyone’s time taking more than 50 silly votes in the Congress to repeal it. Then Pres Obama comes along and tries to placate the righties and makes adjustments that would take care of some of their criticisms. So, for example, he delays enforcement of the employer mandate till 2015 and, allows Congress to continue paying for insurance for them and their staffs. Appreciation by the right? Of course not. They just switch their target to whatever seems good at the moment so long as demeans Obama and so they accuse him of “breaking the constitution” by “changing the law.”

It’s like if a doctor was suppose to follow a certain procedure but notices that if he makes a deviation from what was originally planned, the patient will get better faster, and then having that patient sue the doctor for malpractice for not following procedure. Insanity!!!

Those deviations are allowed because no congress can know about every detail of implementing a law. There are always gonna be situations pop up that were unexpected, and all sane people realize that and thus the Pres is allowed some flexibility in enforcing the law.

What is amazing is that this even needs to be explained. There’s no Constitutional law that has been intentionally broken. That’s just right wing fodder spread by the Fox/Rush gods to their incredibly gullible minions. I just feel sorry for these shallow end righties who are being taken advantage so badly by those who, in the end, will swallow them down whole and vomit out their remains without pity.

Jun 27, 2014 3:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I love how the Obama haters are using a VERY narrow SCOTUS decision as a confirmation of their hate for the black guy. I swear not one of them understands that decision and just how narrow it was. But when you are driven by hate, intellectual discourse is NEVER going to happen.

Jun 27, 2014 3:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“GOP’s Bohner Rises to Occasion But Comes up Dry.”

Keep the squeeze on, boys. Faster! :)

Jun 27, 2014 3:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Art16 wrote:

@Obsilutely

It will blow over all right, right into the pungi pits of his own making. Is Junior High Obama a con artist? It looks that way to me. He does not have the skill set to be a rest room janitor, much less a president of this country. A real President works both sides of the aisle in the interest of the country, not like a squirrel hiding all the nuts for himself. What am I saying, he has all the nuts he needs, in his head.

Jun 27, 2014 3:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

SR37212 wrote: ‘his job is to implement laws passed by congress not make up his own.’

So, what laws has the GOP congress passed lately? and btw; where is the GOP immigration bill?

Jun 27, 2014 3:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Yashmak wrote: ‘This ignores the countless bills the House has sent to the Senate’

yeah? you have an example of those ‘countless bills’? I’d like to see ‘em. I might be able to tell you why Reid is ‘sitting’ on them. thanks.

Jun 27, 2014 3:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CDN_Rebel wrote:

By the looks of this comment board, Americans are so unbelievable simple. Might as well be Team Edward and Team Jacob fighting it out – the ignorance is astounding. Shame on all of you for being so gullible

Jun 27, 2014 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

YashMak – read comments fully… misdirection is always a good way to get the readers attention. Unless you did not understand the re-direction.

Jun 27, 2014 4:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BottleBob wrote:

ahhhh … the whiner in chief is at it again… those dam racist republicans… everything I do is blocked by them… its my ball and i will play my way and make up my own rules… wahhh wahhh wahhh

what a putz….. problems is that so many liberals still drunk on the koolaide see his reasoning….
I guess like Jim Jones said… have another sip .. it tastes great and its goood for you too… trust me….

Jun 27, 2014 4:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

How dare they defy mien Fuhrer….

Jun 27, 2014 4:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

I gotta give it to the Prez – the only place you find ‘stunts’ is in the circus – and that’s what we have in Washington. But who is the ringleader….

Jun 27, 2014 4:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

it’s all about November…

Jun 27, 2014 4:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

I asked and am still waiting Sunny. You asked where is the GOP immigration bill?, but the real questions should be why is obama not enforcing the more than adequate laws already in existance. You want everyone to “show” you proof, but it quite readily available using this thing called google, or, you could just go to the house website and see what has been passed to ole dirty harry, but then again, you aren’t really looking for truth or facts, you just want to play in your little fantasy land and ignore any and every bit of evidence that you don’t like and that doesnt fit your sad little agenda.

Jun 27, 2014 4:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xit007 wrote:

Ok I called it way up in the thread – I called everyone on the thread racists – so you can’t play the race card again….but they never miss an opportunity – race bait. The irony of it all – calling everyone a racist while he decries the loss of intellectual discourse. The self flagellation of a hypocrite..

USAPragmatist2 wrote:
I love how the Obama haters are using a VERY narrow SCOTUS decision as a confirmation of their hate for the black guy. I swear not one of them understands that decision and just how narrow it was. But when you are driven by hate, intellectual discourse is NEVER going to happen.

Jun 27, 2014 4:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dcpost wrote:

Obama is a tyrant dictator that must be stopped. He does not follow the rule of law and the constitution. After the mid-terms Obama will be impeached for his lies to the American people for Obamacare, IRS, Benghazi, and his immigration policies. Dems will let him go alone.

Jun 27, 2014 4:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

SunnyDaySam wrote: ‘So, what laws has the GOP congress passed lately? and btw; where is the GOP immigration bill?’

*crickets*

Jun 27, 2014 4:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
leopardlady wrote:

The King of the World has spoken and sounds like a cry baby “They don’t do anything except block me and call me names,” Obama said

Jun 27, 2014 4:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sandtraveler wrote:

President Obama hit the TBGRs right where it hurts – letting the Truth be Told!! Bravo, and give the Republicans the boot!!

Jun 27, 2014 4:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
dixiedog44 wrote:

It is very embarrassing to have a president that is so infantile and petulant. I think the guy is so narcissistic that he really does not realize that he has brought all his troubles upon himself, not to mention all the troubles he has brought upon our nation. As our first black president, all he had to be was mediocre to be a huge success with so many people pulling for him, but he does not have a clue.

Jun 27, 2014 4:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SR37212 wrote:

@Sunny Day: your question has been answered… There are already laws on the books the president refuses to implement.

If the general public actually wanted a liberal/progressive agenda the Democrats would still be in control of the House.

Where is it written the Congress has to pass a certain amount of laws?
Please educate me as to what the exact number of laws they need to pass.

@USAPragmatist2: I totally agree with you. Your hatred for anything Republican makes intellectual discourse impossible. How narrow of you.

Jun 27, 2014 4:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

Right wing posters here arguing about Obama breaking laws simply have researched these issues at all. CLEARLY executive orders are allowed by the constitution, virtually all presidents use them, most use them more than Obama.

When the GOP continuously refuses to allow issues to even come up for vote, because they don’t want their votes recorded, or they know they will lose when the democratically elected body votes, then it is within the bounds of the constitution for they president to make reasonable adjustments within the law to keep the government fumctioning.

Jun 27, 2014 4:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

Elections have consequences. If the GOP can’t win elections and won’t bring policies and laws up for votes, then get out of the way and let person elected by a majority of voters govern.

It like someone losing a ball game and walking off in the fourth quarter with the ball. Don’t blame the winners for using a substitute ball to finish the game.

GOP losing like a loser.

Jun 27, 2014 5:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
leopardlady wrote:

USA Prag, We are not narrow. Obama brings all of this upon himself. You can’t just change the law because you don’t like it. It’s rather narrow of you to think the President can. In the USA the President doesn’t make the laws.

Jun 27, 2014 5:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JamesChirico wrote:

Speaker Boehner was asked if this was a political stunt, he said no, it is the president not following the constitution. Then he was asked what constitutional law breaking will you charge the executive with in your lawsuit, he said when I decide that I’ll let you know. Like the little boy with hand in cookie jar trying to be innocent, this political stunt will cost the GOP in Nov. when independents see a do nothing House grasping at straws.

Jun 27, 2014 5:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

SR37212 wrote:
‘@Sunny Day: your question has been answered… ‘

Hilarious! and just exactly what I expected. The party of Nothing has nothing. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Jun 27, 2014 5:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Timbuk3@ Nice posts – intelligent and insightful. Refreshing on this thread I must say.

Jun 27, 2014 5:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Haze6875 wrote:

Unfortunately your article is clearly biased with a liberal agenda – under the ruse of fair and honest reporting. It is true that Obama is employing his executive powers now more than ever before during his presidency. Maybe no more total – than previous presidents – but the recent supreme court ruling clearly ruled that he overstepped his presidential powers. Obama has been sidestepping Congress (and the people’s voice) through many executive orders. There was the “We Can’t Wait” initiative, which he claimed benefited the middle class through infrastructure projects and economic policy changes. He skirted Senate approval this last January, when he appointed nominees to the National Labor Relations Board and to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The appointments were unprecedented because the Senate was technically not in recess, when he claimed they were! In June, despite the failure to pass legislation of the “DREAM” Act — the president still halted deportations of illegal immigrants who entered the United States. If legislation doesn’t pass congress – the president does not have the right to go ahead and move forward with his own agenda and sidestep congress! And in July, Obama changed welfare policy to allow states to modify work requirements if they test new approaches to increasing employment. Obama did not submit the policy change to Congress for review, which the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded he should have done.

Jun 27, 2014 5:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

I am going to use a rightie/Obama hater argument here…

The timing of this announcement is suspect, Boehner is simply distracting from the news that his good buddy Cantor lost to a ‘tea-party’ guy and he is simply trying to ‘buy votes’ from the Obama haters.

Jun 27, 2014 5:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Jaay wrote:

Republicans in the House need to create jobs. Until they even try to do that Americans need to see them as UN-Christian.

Jun 27, 2014 5:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

“tmc”–Too bad you are having such a hissy fit because there are individual “thinkers.” You’re upset that anyone could have opinions that don’t fall right in line with yours. SO SAD!

Jun 27, 2014 5:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GabeX wrote:

I am still waiting for the GOP to unveil their “market-based alternatives” to “obamacare”.
The only thing they had done in the last few years has been complaining and calling names. GROW UP!!!

Jun 27, 2014 5:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Jaay wrote:
‘Republicans in the House need to create jobs’

yeah, whatever happened to John Boehner’s famous ‘laser-like focus on JOBS’ thing? Not one real Jobs bill from the GOP – only attacks on the EPA and NLRB, which they try to call jobs bills. fools.

Jun 27, 2014 5:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
tplat wrote:

If they go ahead with this lawsuit then they could be opening up the door to any elected official being sued as well. The sad thing is that every president dating back to Reagan has invoked more executive actions then Obama.

Jun 27, 2014 5:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
yubamary wrote:

The President is always blasting the Republicans. What’s new. I cant believe the division this President has caused in our country. Or perhaps I should say his country because I really don’t know how much longer we will be able to recognize the USA. And @USAPragmatist2, it’s not hatred for the black guy, he is half white, it’s just against many of his policies that most of the people don’t like. It’s like he just goes off half cocked. He delays to long or acts to fast he can’t seem to get it right. Let’s face it he lacks management skills plus many other skills.

Jun 27, 2014 5:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YWontU wrote:

BaiJiuUSA – are you a muslim? There are a lot of people who have made very truthful factual statements. For a liberal, I would say you are very totalitarian in your approach. It would be wiser for you to challenge the slander, because slander is defined as false accusations, rather than childishly report people for saying what they think and know. POS and POS sound the same don’t they. You make a good serf.

Jun 27, 2014 6:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YWontU wrote:

BaiJiuUSA – are you a muslim? There are a lot of people who have made very truthful factual statements. For a liberal, I would say you are very totalitarian in your approach. It would be wiser for you to challenge the slander, because slander is defined as false accusations, rather than childishly report people for saying what they think and know. POS and POS sound the same don’t they. You make a good serf.

Jun 27, 2014 6:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
stambo2001 wrote:

@usapragmatist2 Haven’t seen you around much, thought they might have banned your nuttery again.

Anyway, way up at the beginning of this thread I made a list of the crimes that Obama has indeed committed and none of you usual supporters disputed a single one. Here it is again:

Obama HAS indeed broken many, many laws both internationally and domestically.
For examples:
- executive order to circumvent immigration deportation laws
- providing aid to countries overrun by military coup
- funding nuclear armed countries not signatories to the NPT
- executive privilege used to hide criminality of Attorney General
- alterations to Obamacare law
- warrant-less surveillance of all citizens
- extrajudicial assassination of citizens
- removing prisoners from Gitmo without 30 day notice to congress
- violating Sovereign and International Laws (kidnapping/assassination)
- cash settlements for banks laundering drug money
- industrial/technological sabotage

As I stated before, most Presidents have broken laws here and there it is just fantastically rare for one to actually be brought to account before the courts. Some of the actions I listed above are clear, without argument or dispute, violations of the law that simply were not acted upon.

Boehner is technically using a lawsuit to more or less force a command or Writ of Mandamus. Get out your legal text. It’s really a neat stunt, it really is.

Jun 27, 2014 6:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Redford wrote:

If it upsets Obama, then it’s on the right track.

Jun 27, 2014 6:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
truth911 wrote:

Mr. 0bama seems to be out of touch with the constitution. The supreme court ruled against his illegal actions twice recently 9-0. I doubt if his legal appraisal is anymore accurate here.

Jun 27, 2014 6:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
GSH10 wrote:

@dd606, laughing it off adds insult to injury, but either way, enacting Executive Orders to bypass the Constitution must be stopped. Bush getting away with it set a terrible, dangerous precedent and we the people must speak out against and demand our Constitution be upheld, otherwise, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Jun 27, 2014 6:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“yeah? you have an example of those ‘countless bills’? I’d like to see ‘em. I might be able to tell you why Reid is ‘sitting’ on them. thanks. ” – SunnyDaySam

Try the Wall Street Journal, in their article “Harry Reid’s Senate Blockade”. The latest example is an energy bill, for which Reid has blocked all GOP house amendments from coming to the floor for debate since last July.

How about H.R. 872, a jobs bill from 2011? He blocked that one, while concurrently Obama blasted the House for inaction on jobs (“Reid blocks vote on jobs bill while Obama blasts House for not voting on it” Yahoo News).
H.R. 910, an energy tax prevention act?
H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act
H.R. 1231, Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act

That’s just from the first few of dozens of articles about Reid preventing House bills and resolutions from coming to vote in the Senate. It’s a powerful weapon, to be sure, to demonize your enemies for inaction. Especially when you can prevent any meaningful bill they pass from ever reaching a vote. Of course, it’s also incredibly cynical and hypocritical, but it has obviously fooled you (and countless others, who shout “obstructionism” every time the House comes up in conversation).

Jun 27, 2014 6:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@stambo, what is fantastical is the obstruction this president has faced. The GOP won’t even allow votes on his cabinet appointments of judicial nominees. Again, blocking the government because they can’t win elections. You can gerrymander districts but you can’t gerrymander the entire country.

As far as your list of crazy high crimes, i am not going to argue about the duly elected US President who was a US Constitutional lawyer some Canadian pizza guy.

Elections have consequences, won and we are governing.

Jun 27, 2014 6:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“YashMak – read comments fully… misdirection is always a good way to get the readers attention. Unless you did not understand the re-direction.” – xit007

Ah, I see now. . .I would indeed have noted the sarcasm if I’d read your whole comment. My apologies. I see that accusation of racism directed at folks who disagree with Obama so often, and it’s so maddening, that it got the better of me :)

Jun 27, 2014 6:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

GabeX wrote:
‘I am still waiting for the GOP to unveil their “market-based alternatives” to “obamacare”.’

don’t hold your breath – the GOP has nothing constructive at all. sorry.

Jun 27, 2014 6:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“yeah, whatever happened to John Boehner’s famous ‘laser-like focus on JOBS’ thing? ”

Whatever happened to the GOP’s job bill from 2011? Oh yeah, Reid wouldn’t allow it to come to vote. . .as has been the case with numerous House generate jobs bills.

Jun 27, 2014 6:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

Hard to imagine why some people think the tea party and GOP are racists after comments like Armigerous. Oh wait, that’s sarcasm.

It is easy to see your motives and bias. You’re surely not helping the conservative cause and for that i thank you.

Jun 27, 2014 6:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

The lawsuit will is valid. It may not have any short effects on Obama and he will be gone by the time this over, but it can help stop future Presidents from acting outside the confines of the Constitution. What Obama doesn’t realize is all of his executive orders can easily be undone by the next President with guess what, an executive order. Really, he should hope they are successful as it may keep more of his laws on the books and harder for future Presidents to undo with the power of the executive pen.

Jun 27, 2014 7:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bluto1960 wrote:

Obama lies he recently says “I learned about The VA probs. and the ,IRS phony scandals on TV news .”

Yesterday he says “I never watch TV news ”

He is a desperate stupid man getting caught up in his lies as liars often do because they can’t always remember the last lie they told ………………..unfortunately he is POTUS !

Jun 27, 2014 7:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Yashmak wrote: ‘Oh yeah, Reid wouldn’t allow it to come to vote. . .as has been the case with numerous House generate jobs bills.’

see… this is what gets me about you cons – nothing specific EVER. Just general unsubstantiated accusations from Limbaugh. It would be helpful and it would make people take you seriously, if you provided a list or anything of the ‘numerous House generate jobs bills.’ [sic]
so that we might see for ourselves that you are correct or not. thanks. Just trying to help.

Jun 27, 2014 7:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CK71 wrote:

“they’re going to sue me for doing my job”

Your job is to follow Article II, not run roughshod over the separation of powers doctrine of the U.S. Constitution. Remember what you said three years ago?

In 2011 at a town hall meeting
broadcast by Univision, Obama stated, “With respect to the notion
that I can just suspend deportations through executive order —
that’s just not the case…Congress passes the laws. The Executive
branch’s job is to enforce and implement the laws, and then the
Judiciary has to interpret the laws. There are enough laws on the
books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to
enforce our immigration system, that for me to simply through
executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform
with my appropriate role as president.”

“Well, the truth of the matter
is that we have exercised as much administrative discretion as we
can.” – interview given to Latina Magazine at the White House
early August 2011

What in the Constitution has changed since 2011? I don’t hear Obama talking about limits to a president’s power anymore. Is this because he has ignored/made up his own law so many times? Because he has done the very things he said that would not be allowed by the Constitution?   Remember when he campaigned about *restoring* the Constitution? Those days are LONG gone.

Jun 27, 2014 8:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
thinker72 wrote:

wow, enlightening comments, also very very scary. Goodbye America!

Jun 27, 2014 9:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Karin6 wrote:

He speaks of min wage increases and the fraudulent ‘climate change’… (This is the Elite’s agenda not America’s.) Meanwhile, more pressing issues like the border and Iraq go ignored… Then he blames everyone else! Lamest president ever!

Jun 27, 2014 10:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
richinnc wrote:

Does Obama really think we elected him King? He acts like it.

Jun 27, 2014 10:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Carny, your comments are ridiculous and racist…surely you don’t think you are the only one who “works and talks” with someone of different race. you accuse others of hatred yet they only disagree with you. I have discussed politics with Americans, Mexicans, Whites, Blacks, Japanese, Taiwanese, Cubans, etc. does that make me an expert. No. But I can tell you one common thread. Of the immigrants I have talked to they are disappoint in what this administration is doing to this country. If you want to bring race into this issue, what percentage of whites, Latinos, blacks voted for each of Obama? This president isn’t disrespected because of his race…that is a ridiculous statement (but there are many simpleminded people that want to use that as an excuse)…just look at his comments…oh how he is mistreated. Yes it is difficult, but he obviously is not the man to take it.
you like Obama divide this country…using the race card, calling others haters…etc.

Jun 27, 2014 10:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@CarnivalChaos

The Patriot Act that George W Bush passed expired in 2009. It was extended by the Democrats House/Senate and signed by Barrack Obama in 2009, and extended again by the Republican House, Democrat Senate and Barrack Obama again in 2011. You are raving lunatic if you criticize the Republicans for the Patriot Act but give the Democrats a complete pass on it for extending it 2 times and counting.

Jun 27, 2014 10:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

SunnyDaySam wrote:
“So, what laws has the GOP congress passed lately? and btw; where is the GOP immigration bill?”

There are massive amounts of information available, as part of the public record, that would satisfactorily answer your questions here.

I’m quite surprised at you, and your posted positions here.

Usually you are not so weak, and asking for it, like you are in your above, numerous, posts.

Certainly you ARE NOT unaware of the frequent posts by others concerning the lawlessness that pervades, like a river, from this current administration.

Posts that expose the frequent usurping of congress’s role in lawmaking, that the Democratically controlled senate HAS LET SLIDE, because they’re lap dogs of this administration, thus relinquishing, and establishing a never before extremely dangerous precedent that should not go unchallenged, are frequent, and you’ve read them.

And the U.S. house has, finally, after too long of a delay, proceeded forward against these unrestrained tenuous developments.

Certainly, Sunny Day, you’re not one that would advocate that the different segments of government should allow themselves to continually be reduced from having equal legal power and position in regards to the checks and balances ingrained in our constitution, would you?

What if it were a Republican president, and a Republican controlled Senate doing all these things? And only the Democratic controlled House of Representatives was finally coming forward to hold everyone to account.

I’m quite certain YOU WOULD CHEER FOR THAT.

Non-consistency in integrity IN YOUR POSITIONS, shows that there is, in fact, NO INTEGRITY in your positions.

Jun 27, 2014 10:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
indymind wrote:

How dare the Nasty Republicans try and sue this elitist. Don’t they understand that he is the smartest guy in the room.

Jun 27, 2014 11:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
indymind wrote:

How dare the Nasty Republicans try and sue this elitist. Don’t they understand that he is the smartest guy in the room.

Jun 27, 2014 11:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
indymind wrote:

How dare the Nasty Republicans try and sue this elitist. Don’t they understand that he is the smartest guy in the room.

Jun 27, 2014 11:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

Jaay wrote:
“Republicans in the House need to create jobs. Until they even try to do that Americans need to see them as UN-Christian.”

Where have you been Jaay, dwelling under a rock?

The U.S. House Of Representatives has REPEATEDLY put forth, passed, and forwarded to the senate, numerous jobs bills. The Senate sits on them, not allowing them to come up for a vote. Non-courtesy of Harry Reid.

Please try to clue in. Otherwise you look ignorant.

Jun 27, 2014 11:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

GabeX wrote:
“I am still waiting for the GOP to unveil their “market-based alternatives” to “obamacare”.
The only thing they had done in the last few years has been complaining and calling names. GROW UP!!!”

Well then, perhaps you should participate in electing conservative Republicans to all branches of everything.

Then they will, when elected, squash Obamacare, put forward something else and pressure everyone in Congress to pass it so that we can “find out and know what’s in it.”

Would you find that satisfactory?

Jun 27, 2014 11:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

If the Republicans want the Executive to act differently, they should elect a President. They lost the last two elections fair and square. Perhaps next time.

Jun 27, 2014 11:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

It’s sad reading many of the comments here. I highly doubt that Presidential Executive orders rates higher than a flea on a dog’s behind compared to the real problems we face today. It’s a common practice in election years to get the population up in arms and fighting over nonsensical issues like this. Rather than talk about the real problems in this country like the debt, jobs, Medicare and Social Security. Both sides are simply playing politics here. You would have to be an idiot not to see this. No one is willing to stand up, take the mic and propose their detailed solution for any of the real problems. Vote them all out of office.

Jun 27, 2014 11:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
xyz2055 wrote:

TheNewWorld…perhaps it isn’t racism. But what chance do you think any Republican has for re-election if he compromises and meets the President half way to get a deal done? ZERO! Call it what ever you like..but the Republicans have painted themselves into a corner they can’t get out of. The relationship between Clinton and the Republicans was bad (they impeached him)…but with Obama it’s on steroids. And the far right is fueling it. Democrats and moderates have been mostly silent.

Jun 27, 2014 11:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

Timbuk3 wrote:
“Elections have consequences. If the GOP can’t win elections and won’t bring policies and laws up for votes, then get out of the way and let person elected by a majority of voters govern.”

Yes Timbuk elections do have consequences.

And the people of the U.S. have been EXPONENTIALLY suffering under those consequences for the last five-plus years under the imposed policiy costs of the Democrats in Congress and the administration.

Were you vigorously rubbing your eyes when you wrote that “the GOP can’t win elections”? They control the House of Representatives don’t they?

“Bring policies and laws up for votes”?

Does not the House AND the Senate BOTH play games as to what comes up for a vote?

And then you QUITE HILARIOUSLY state “then get out of the way and let person elected by a majority of voters govern.”

Hey Ass-Clown, EVERYONE elected got there by means of the MAJORITY OF VOTERS. Each of them, individually.

Jun 27, 2014 11:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@ovulator
“people of the U.S. have been EXPONENTIALLY suffering under those consequences for the last five-plus years ” is your opinion, not a fact. Most Americans approve of the specific features of Obamacare, his domestic agenda, and his foreign policy decisions until they are informed that they are part of Obamacare or his policies. That is a fact you can google.

Also, google the definition of exponential, and also the approval rating of the House of epresetatives.

Jun 27, 2014 12:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

Stupid iPad incompatible comment editor…

Jun 27, 2014 12:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
DbPolk wrote:

Obama continues to do good work for the majority of Americans.

Jun 27, 2014 12:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
nvgg wrote:

Obama, pathological liar

Jun 28, 2014 1:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse

I think theovulator has shown his racism with last comment, thank you for being a perfect example of which I speak.

As I read through this thread again, I noticed a lot of the same theme, which is this; Obama is getting angry at this, the whole ‘angry black man’ thing. Some may remember that that theme was part of Eric Holder’s insightful remarks about race relations a few months back.

Jun 28, 2014 1:38am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JamesChirico wrote:

There the conservatives with the Obama derangement syndrome go posting their unsubstantiated nonsense.

Stambo wrote: Obama HAS indeed broken many, many laws both internationally and domestically.
For examples:
- executive order to circumvent immigration deportation laws
- providing aid to countries overrun by military coup
- funding nuclear armed countries not signatories to the NPT
- executive privilege used to hide criminality of Attorney General
- alterations to Obamacare law
- warrant-less surveillance of all citizens
- extrajudicial assassination of citizens
- removing prisoners from Gitmo without 30 day notice to congress
- violating Sovereign and International Laws (kidnapping/assassination)
- cash settlements for banks laundering drug money
- industrial/technological sabotage

1. A president can give amnesty to anyone for any crime. He has that authority, so much for illegal amnesty breaking the law.

2.Military coup countries aid? Congress authorizes aid, and no country under a coup has been “aided”.

3. Like funding Israel a non-T signer. P.S. no law against it.

4. Criminality by Holder is in conservative fantasyland. Meese and Gonzales did break the law and resigned.

5. All president’s modify enforcement of laws. Ike did it with 501 C4 orgs changing exclusively to mainly one example getting political support.

6. Warantless surveillance was a power given by the Patriot Act. Dubya did it before the act, no big deal according to the GOP.

7. Killing our enemies like Al Awlaki is the job of the CIC, extrajudicial indeed!

8. The Gitmo 5 were going to get released when US Afghan patrols ended next year. This GOP congress works against this president even if it is getting someone back from our enemies or doing their job in Libya authorizing or not. They leaked sensitive info before, can’t say I blame the president for not keeping them informed.

9. Too sad to see an American decry the death of Bin Laden or the capture of a terrorist (kidnapping/assassination).

10. Banks paid fines in their settling cash laundering, not the opposite that was posted by you.

11. Industrial/tech. sabotage, LOL. This exec. has won more cases protecting them in WTO court than any other in your lifetime.

Jun 28, 2014 1:45am EDT  --  Report as abuse
brian186 wrote:

The power of Executive Order is clearly defined in the United States Constitution. So, what is their issue? Is it that their issue is with the particular orders are outside the scope of the executive office (which would give grounds to sue), or is their issue that he issued orders with which they disagree (which would not give grounds to sue)?

Jun 28, 2014 1:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.- George Bernard Shaw

Jun 28, 2014 8:05am EDT  --  Report as abuse
weather3014 wrote:

It is interesting that the article ends with misleading issue of the number of these executive orders per president. The number is not the issue. If you actually look at the orders in the past they are for things like establishing a board to investigate something or freezing new investment in a newly overthrown government. The orders that are questionable now are deciding who to deport in an immigration law, delaying a tax connected with healthcare and deciding who is exempt from the new healthcare law. These are changes to an existing law which is very different.

Jun 28, 2014 10:02am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

As this commentary has progressed through nearly 200 posts so far, several contributors have asserted or implied that conservatives and/or Republicans are racists.

I have reported these posts as abusive.

If Reuters’ rules re civil discourse mean anything at all, Reuters will act to control extraneous racial commentary.

Jun 28, 2014 10:04am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JamesChirico wrote:

There the conservatives go again posting nonsense in rebuttal.
JamesChirico wrote:
“Military coup countries aid? Congress authorizes aid, and no country under a coup has been “aided””.

IT’S A BIT DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW YOUR CONVOLUTED POST, but here is a response.

Military coup in Egypt? Any recollection of that? It did happen.

“Criminality by Holder is in conservative fantasyland. Meese and Gonzales did break the law and resigned.”

I didn’t bother researching whether Meese and Gonzales did actually break the law. But I would ask you this:

In comparison to Meese and Gonzales, has Holder broken the law?

And I think that’s a YES.

But Holder has not resigned? Why not?

“Warantless surveillance was a power given by the Patriot Act. Dubya did it before the act.”

Dubya DID NOT do it BEFORE the act. Only after. And Obama expanded on it.

Do you endorse Obamas decision to expand and strengthened it?

IT’S OK. YOU CAN ADMIT IT. WE ALL KNOW.

JamesChirico continues.
“Killing our enemies like Al Awlaki is the job of the CIC, extrajudicial indeed!”

Killing of “our enemies” by whatever means, most recently under Obama by way of drone attacks, if THEY are U.S. citizens, ABSOLUTELY VIOLATES THE LAW.

JamesChirico, EVER HEARD OF DUE PROCESS?

Any American citizen, no matter how depraved, degenerate, or removed from the self-norms of reasonable behavior should never lose the afforded rights guaranteed to them, as citizens, of the United States of America. Regardless of whether they fight against us from some foreign land.

Death by a drone, if you are a U.S. citizen, is not defensible. A U.S. citizen, succumbing to such, has had taken from them, the right of due process. A write guaranteed them under the U.S. constitution.

It does not matter how egregious the activities of a U.S. citizen might be, constitutional rights afforded us citizens cannot be legally usurped by arbitrary acts and decisions made by ANY U.S. President.

It’s not just some special little side benefit of being a U.S. citizen, IT’S A RIGHT. PROTECTED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

Quite a downward accelerating slippery slope it is for those who do not embrace the above sentences.

For those who don’t concur, ask yourselves, would you be so quickly salient in relinquishing the above rights AFFORDED TO YOU?

I think not. However, I do think that . . . . .

Non-Americans do not attain to these rights.

Alien Bummer Dude.
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Egypt will have an election, gets aid from congress in the Camp David Accords.

Meese had Wedtech resigned, Gonzales politicized the Atty gen. office resigned. Holder has not been charged with anything. Congress would if they could. The House vote had no power legally against Holder or he would have had to resign.

Dubya did collect phone records, Nazario asked for a warrant then got convicted of insider trading for asking for it.

The CIC swears an oath to protect it’s citizens. Al Awlaki brainwashed Hasan into killing Americans, was hiding in Yemen. The CIC has a duty to not let more people get brainwashed by this terrorist. Invading Yemen is not an option.
Due process would be given to any that gives up and wants it. Al Awlaki did not use that right.

Due process, rights in court, are open to those that are caught or give up. IMO the Benedict Arnold’s should not have any rights destroying their home country.

Jun 28, 2014 10:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tmc wrote:

I think this is so foolish. This political discussion and comments are exactly what the politicians and there masters want.
You are divided. You can do nothing but bicker about partisan politics. What a shame you all can’t see what has been done to you.

Jun 28, 2014 10:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

As this commentary has progressed through nearly 200 posts so far, several contributors have asserted or implied that conservatives and/or Republicans are racists.

I have reported these posts as abusive.

If Reuters’ rules re civil commentary mean anything at all, Reuters will control extraneous racial commentary.

Jun 28, 2014 11:07am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Constantcy wrote:

I am not arguing with President Obama. I notice that it is not the number of executive orders, but the content of the order which stirs the reactions. Lincoln’s Executive Order No.1, for example, suspended habeas corpus and had consequences unto this day.

Jun 28, 2014 11:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

Regarding the main import of this Reuters article, Obama’s complaints about the use of the courts to reign in his administrative extra-legal actions; A Federal Judge is now contemplating a special prosecutor in an earlier case filed against the IRS by Judicial Watch:

http://observer.com/2014/06/breaking-meet-emmet-sullivan-irs-judge-who-once-sicced-a-special-prosecutor-on-doj/

Jun 28, 2014 12:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jmad34 wrote:

This hollow threat is only another iteration of the vitriol heaped on Obama that started before he was inaugurated

Jun 28, 2014 12:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jmad34 wrote:

This hollow threat is only another iteration of the vitriol heaped on Obama that started before he was inaugurated

Jun 28, 2014 12:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

ready2013: I love how conservatives always cherry pick their quotes and use them in blind ignorance. I guess you didn’t realize that George Bernard Shaw was a ardent socialist. He was hardcore and his plays always represented the defense of the working class, the kind of people Mitt Romney dismissed as moochers. Nice try. You should stick with quotes from people you’re really familiar with, like Glen Beck or Michele Bachmann. LOL

Jun 28, 2014 12:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

Good Job, President Obama. The majority of Americans have wakened up to the fact that republicans/libertarians/tea party members and some independents and democrats were hired by the Koch brothers/ALEC and other “conservatives” to hold the status quo and keep the money flowing to the top at the expense of the rest of us. There is a sea change coming to politics in America and fox so-called news is going to have more resumes than it can handle from all the out-of-work conservatives.

Jun 28, 2014 12:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

I agree, I do not think we should sue Obama…. I think it is time for the Impeachment of Obama and Holder..the evil duo, that has turned us into a dictatorship…congress do your jobs, we need new people in these positions..

Jun 28, 2014 12:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mstan4408 wrote:

The mockery has been the Congressional republicans, more like RINO’S in as much as they are Tea Party (can’t get elected having their own party on election ballots) and Libertarians (ditto tea party) and Ayn Rand adherents (same as tea party). They are parties all right, parties that want to do away with an elected President and if they can’t do it legally, they’ll obstruct the business of the US anyway they can.

Jun 28, 2014 1:12pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Carny,
yes, I understand his position. that is why I used his comments… which contradicts those of you that push for socialist policies and yet say you are not a socialist, who say you are not against capitalism, and claim to support the US and its constitution as it is written. the laugh is on you, and those who are critical thinkers. the problem with the those on the left is they can’t understand others opinions and points if they are contradictory to their own.

Jun 28, 2014 1:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Lyn4U wrote:

One wonders IF the President is what he claims… a Constitutional scholar. Respect for the process of deliberation and hopefully only the best of what emerges from both Houses of Congress with the President having the right to accept or reject in the end gives the American people what is best.

I can’t respect a President who doesn’t respect the Constitutional process… especially one who claims he’s a Constitutional scholar. Doing things unilaterally Constitution doesn’t allow him to do makes him little short of a dictator.

An article in one newspaper said America is a lot weaker since he came into office. Most would agree… it is and truly a lot weaker. What a precedent to leave to history… the President ALONE MAKING THE DECISIONS is terrible precedent Mr. President.

I don’t see where you decisions have been so wonderful, even you have apologized for a lot of them, that you should make the decisions alone.

Jun 28, 2014 1:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

ready2013: LOL your post makes absolutely no sense. You use the comments of a famous socialist because they contradict people who push for socialist policies. LOL Okay. Whatever. The laugh is on me and critical thinkers? What? LOL Yes, I suppose so. Darn those critical thinkers. By trying to explain yourself after you’ve made a gaff you only manage to look even more foolish. Stop while you’re behind. LOL…

Jun 28, 2014 2:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Speakerbliss wrote:

Talk is cheap, the lawsuit will never see the light of day. Just more posturing from a Congress that has done so little and amazingly proud they have done so little.

Jun 28, 2014 2:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

Lyn4U: Every President uses executive privilege. Obama has used it less than most, even though the obstruction of his Presidency is worse than any other President. In other words, Obama has greater reason to turn to executive privilege, but has shown remarkable restraint. But he has to be able to get things done. That’s what he was elected for.

What conservatives seem incapable of grasping is that a majority of Americans elected Obama as our President and we have the right to see him serve in its fullest capacity, just like conservatives got when Bush was made President (even though he obtained the office by illegitimate means, not to mention that he failed to win a majority of the vote.) Republicans try to stop Obama from doing anything, and that’s wrong. Democrats supported Bush on about 40% of his initiatives. Obama has a job to do and the majority of Americans want him to do that job. It’s why we elected him. Furthermore, even though Republicans control the House of Representatives, they were not elected by a majority of the vote. Democrats received more votes. Understand this: Democrats received more votes in the Senate, in the House of Representatives, and for the Presidency. Yet racist US conservatives want to block the will of the majority of Americans.

I say racist because there is a lot of racism involved, though it’s not just about racism. I’m sure you’ve seen the posters at Tea Party rallies of Obama painted in white face; Republican governors and state legislators have passed photo ID requirements that studies show will adversely affect African American voters by a larger percentage than any other demographic; conservatives brought before the conservative Supreme Court the voting rights act where it was gutted, a law adopted to protect the rights of African Americans; Republican governors and legislators in many states have ended the practice of allowing voting on Sundays, ending a tradition in the African American community of voting after church (Why?); and, of course, look at the way conservatives disrespect our first black President, for which there is no excuse. None.

Mississippi recently had an interesting primary election where a Tea Party candidate was challenging an establishment Republican. The Tea Party candidate lost, probably because African Americans came out and voted for the other Republican, Thad Cochran. The Tea Partiers in Mississippi were beside themselves and claimed voter fraud, that blacks are only supposed to vote in Democratic primaries. Black liberals threw the election! Poor racist Tea Baggers. But that kind of crossover voting has been going on since the beginning of our Republic. It happened to Ned Lamont when he won the Democratic primary from Joe Liebermann, who then ran as an Independent. Republicans voted for Joe Liebermann to keep the more liberal Ned Lamont from winning. Lamont conceded graciously. Not so Chris McDaniel, Tea Bagger from Mississippi. So it’s okay except when it happens to a conservatives, especially if the outcome is determined by (gulp) BLACKS! Yes, there’s a lot of racism in the radical rightwing conservative movement in the US. Every heard of the Southern Strategy? Look it up.

Jun 28, 2014 2:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@union
I am glad to read that you are so concerned about racism against the GOP posts when they are accused of racism. What you clearly have not seen, but I have as I’ve monitored this thread, are some of the crazy racist expletive filled anti-Obama rants that pop up and are then reported and almost immediately removed. You, sir, would be shocked and appalled if you read these. While you would understand better the accusations of racism against the right if you had witnessed some of these, i am glad that they were promptly removed before other people were subjected to them.

Jun 28, 2014 2:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Timbuk3

“I am glad to read that you are so concerned about racism against the GOP posts when they are accused of racism. What you clearly have not seen, but I have as I’ve monitored this thread, are some of the crazy racist expletive filled anti-Obama rants that pop up and are then reported and almost immediately removed. You, sir, would be shocked and appalled if you read these. While you would understand better the accusations of racism against the right if you had witnessed some of these, i am glad that they were promptly removed before other people were subjected to them.”

To be fair many of those comments are blatant trolls. If you go to CNN and read their posts which have a lot less moderation to them, you can find the obvious trolls. It is very easy for someone to say something that is blatantly racist and get a lot of people worked up. I don’t think that any of the normal posters here are racists, and I shouldn’t have used that term for carnivalchaos. What he said is stereotyping and not racist.

Jun 28, 2014 3:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Carny, you are making it racism…thus, yours is the racist comments.

carny, what you don’t understand, Obama is president of all Americans…not just those who voted for him.

you state “we have the right to see him serve in its fullest capacity”…do you mean to say you want him enact everything you want regardless of those who voted against him. maybe you don’t understand the constitution…he is only a part of the Government, not the ruler or dictator – but that is what you want him to be a dictator, admit it. you don’t support the US constitution, and you are a socialist.

voter id affecting African Americans…it’s amazing folks claim they can’t get IDs, but they can find a way to vote, to go to Wal Mart. EXCUSES EXCUSES

you seem to want to “emphasize the importance of majority”…well I guess you are saying the native americans, immigrants and blacks should not be protected and all laws should favor the largest segment of the population.

Bush – ” illegitimate means”, come on now…was there a coup or something I missed…

Carny, UNDERSTAND THIS…the republicans in office WON their elections and they have a responsibility also.

you say “our republic” but you are actually a socialist and a racist socialist on top of that.

Southern Strategy…now your Conspiracy Theorist. Tell me about it…I lived in the south a few years…teach me something and how it is currently being implemented.

Jun 28, 2014 3:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

TheNewWorld
you are probably correct…Carnivalchaos is probably not racist, but is very guilty of Stereotyping. His comments are just as divisive as a racist comment. and I too have mistakenly called him a racist…

Jun 28, 2014 4:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Agence21 wrote:

You have our support Mr. President; the Republicans contribute nothing and in the most hypocritical of ways now criticize you for their own faults, mistakes and lies, from the destruction of our economy to the lies that led to Iraq to the destruction of campaign finance reform and the empowering of special interests and the elite. Mr. President, it’s time to hold them legally liable for their crimes.

Jun 28, 2014 4:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@ready2013

As far as Obama goes, he might as well be white. He was raised by a white family in a high rise apartment in Hawaii. He went to a private prep school from 5th grade to graduation. He then went to Occidnental College, and then Columbia University. He then went to Harvard University. Yes some people hate the man because his father was not white, and that is pretty stupid racist. When it comes to Obama’s background he has lived a priveleged life just like most of the other Presidents we have had. I think the left has major problems with their own stereotyping and racial bias. They feel that since their policies “help” minorities that they can never be considered racists. I find the whole mentality that a specific race needs help to be completely racist myself, because it is reinfocing a view that one race is lower than another.

As far as the article goes, Obama still doesn’t get that he is President of the United States, all of us, and not just the Democrats. He is a constitutional lawyer, and just like most lawyers he knows how to bend the laws as far as possible, and knows that nothing truly bad will happen when he breaks them because of the media bias in our country. Just like the supreme court decision, I am sure after this is said and done and he is found guilty, people will be saying so what.

I hope all of these Democrats remember how they supported Barrack Obama’s actions when a GOP or Tea Party President gets in office and starts writing legislation from the executive office and bypassing Congress altogether. I hope they all realize that their great leader made it possible for the President to ignore Congress whenever they don’t go along with them.

Jun 28, 2014 4:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Agence21…go for it.

Jun 28, 2014 4:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@newworld
I am confused by your comment “…to be fair, many of those [racist] comments are [written by ] blatant trolls”

This does not excuse the vile sentiments and behavior at all.

Recall when Colin Powell was in the news on a daily basis, repeating the message of the Bush regime. There is simply no comparison between the behavior or the current GOP and Tea Party and any other major political demographic in the US.

Jun 28, 2014 5:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Timbuk3 wrote:

@newworld
If the president’s appointees and nominees cannot even get a vote, with out repealing Obamacare, shuuting down the government, or having show trial about Benghazi/irs/marine who smuggles guns into Mexico and gets arrested/fake scandal of the week, then i really have no problem at all with his using the constitutional powers at his disposal to keep government operating.

Jun 28, 2014 5:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
LizR wrote:

I’ve been willing to cut Boehner some slack here and there because it’s obvious he’s having a hard time controlling (or perhaps I should say herding) his flock. But with this lawsuit thing he has pretty much lost me. What a waste of time and energy. It falls into the “another day, another distraction” and does no one any good. Well maybe it sold a few papers in the evening rush hour somewhere.

That aside, I think the House needs to take stock of itself during recess and let ordinary people back home hold a mirror up to it , so it sees itself as the people actually see it, not in the self-flattering light of DC power plays and pranks. It’s not pretty. It’s not useful. Its not democratic. And it’s not sustainable. Stay tuned.

Notice I didn’t say “the GOP side” or “the Democratic side” of the House needs to look at itself. They all need to get a grip and remember that they are supposed to act in the interests of these United States of America, not in the interests of this or that fiefdom or campaign contributor or group with the loudest megaphone.

I sometimes feel like they should all go on a spiritual retreat. Not a religious retreat or a new age navel-gaze or anything like that. Just a quiet time of considering whether what each of them has been doing, individually and as committee members, party members and colleagues (yes, cross-aisle collegiality counts!) is actually the best he or she can do for the actual United States of America of 2014.

We can all once in awhile do better than we usually do; that’s how the law of averages works. But it seems to me that in the House of Representatives lately, they’re pretty much all way overdue for a do-better effort. Let’s face it: if they were corporate hires, they’d be looking for another job. Maybe we just have to cut them all loose to have a go at exactly that…

Jun 28, 2014 5:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

ready2013: I’m not sure what you think you’re accomplishing by reinterpreting my posts and responding to your own reinterpretations. I mean exactly what I post, nothing more, nothing less. I don’t know if you think you’re being clever by doing that, but only in your mind is that clever. For everyone else it’s a waste of a minute. If you want to try to refute something I post, do so, but don’t first try to reinterpret it in a way that makes it easier for you. That’s childish nonsense.

My point is that US conservatives consistently line up against African Americans on issue after issue. I mean, don’t you think they’ve put up with enough sh_t from the likes of you? Geez. After all the discrimination they’ve been put through, they finally get to see an African American President, only to see him treated more disrespectfully than any other President in history. Don’t bother to challenge that assertion because it’s easy to back up. I’ll be happy to challenge you to a list of lies spread about Presidents by opposition parties. You would lose that challenge, so don’t waste your time. No other President has been lied about more than Obama. No other President has been called a liar during the State of the Union. No other President has suffered the kind of obstructing opposition that Obama’s put up with. It’s so beyond the pale, and this is obvious to everyone except those who support it, our US conservatives. Your ideology isn’t just rejected by the majority of Americans. It’s also rejected by the rest of the world. You people are just too extreme.

You’re incapable of explaining the boorish behavior on the part of US conservatives directed toward our President. But I understand why you skirt this issue. There is no excuse. Nor can you refute the charge that no other President in history has been treated so disrespectfully. It’s shameful and disgusting. It demeans our nation. No class. Whether or not you like his policies, Obama is a good, decent man deserving of our respect.

My point about majorities shouldn’t need explaining. If I mean that the majority should get everything they want, I’d have said that. I didn’t. That was one of your fatuous interpretations. My point is that the majority should be able to get some of what they want without the conservatives trying every trick in the book to prevent this President from accomplishing ANYTHING. This is why he’s had to resort to executive privilege. And STILL he uses is sparingly compared to other Presidents. But that’s not good enough for US conservatives. Nothing is, except getting everything they want. They’ll even shut down the government or threaten to default on our debt obligations. They promise their constituents that they won’t compromise. But democracy requires compromise. This is why I say conservatives have now started rejecting democracy, the very principles this nation was founded on. They want some sort of conservative-controlled authoritarianism. It’s reasonable to expect the President and the Democrats to get a majority of what they want because they were elected by the majority. Isn’t that reasonable?

And so now they’re suing the President. Another one of their stupid pet tricks, another attempt to stop the majority from getting their way. As with most of their wasteful tricks, it’ll go nowhere. Why don’t they grow up and work with this President? One reason is because they’re afraid if they do they’ll be primaried out of office. And thus the problem: our hateful, anti-democracy, bigoted US conservatives. They do nothing constructive.

Jun 28, 2014 5:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

TheNewWorld: “As far as Obama goes, he might as well be white…”

Man, you people are so clueless. So because Obama lived in a highrise apartment and managed to get into good schools he might as well be white. Boy, and you wonder why I accuse people like you of bigotry. It may be subtle, but it’s there. This is why you are incapable of seeing the bigotry in the way conservatives treat this President. But the rest of us can see it. The only black American President and the only President that has had this level of disrespect thrown at him day in and day out. You also fail to factor in the history of African Americans. They aren’t asking for anything extra. Just to be treated as equals. They can see from the way this President is treated by US conservatives that we’re not there yet.

Obama has tried to work across the aisle. He DOES represent all of us. The problem isn’t with him. The problem is with US conservatives. You people don’t want him to represent you. You’ve rejected him outright from day one. There’s nothing he can do that you people would back him on. So what do you expect him to do? He has to carry on. Mitch McConnell made it his top priority to make Obama a one term President when he should have made it his top priority to help this President to have a successful Presidency and to serve the nation well. Conservatives just don’t get it. Our Republic was founded on democratic principles and that includes working with the opposition. Republicans have no interest in doing that.

Jun 28, 2014 5:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@carnivalchaos

No, Obama might as well be caused a white President because he is just as much white as he is black genetically. To further expound upon this, he was raided in a white household. His socioeconomic back ground is that of a priveleged child. Private school from 5th grade up to college. Hence, for someone to hate him because he is black is an oxymoron to me. It is the height of ignorant racism.

Please read my whole post, help yourself to a dictionary, and find out what the word bigot means. I don’t know how you can sit there and pretend that the left respected GW Bush. I guess you had your head buried in the sand from 2003-present.

I have backed the President many times on Reuters when it comes to gay marriage and other social issues that I back him on. Just because you ignore that does not change the reality. I disagree with him on many issues, just like I disagreed with GW Bush on many issues. You are the one who keeps the race card at the ready and likes to pull it on every single article Reuters reports on. Not me.

Obama can not try to work across the aisle and then go campaign against the Republicans 5 days a week. He can’t work across the aisle while making fun of people bitterly clinging to their bibles and guns. He can’t work across the aisle while making fun of those who oppose him. He is a failure as a leader of America. He doesn’t represent all of us, and he is quick to point out how stupid he feels people are that don’t agree with him on many issues. That is what I reject from day one. He hasn’t changed a bit from day one.

Jun 28, 2014 6:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Timbuk3

“This does not excuse the vile sentiments and behavior at all.

Recall when Colin Powell was in the news on a daily basis, repeating the message of the Bush regime. There is simply no comparison between the behavior or the current GOP and Tea Party and any other major political demographic in the US.”

The point of a troll is to say something that is going to offend as many people as possible to get them worked up. Those posts are not what someone believes, it is what they believe will get you worked up the most. Ignore them and don’t feed the trolls. This is a favorite past time of many people on the internet.

Jun 28, 2014 6:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Carnivalchaos

“Interview with Senator Harry Reid, NBC’s Meet the Press, December 5, 2004

MR. RUSSERT: When the president talked about Yucca Mountain and moving the nation’s nuclear waste there, you were very, very, very strong in your words. You said, “President Bush is a liar. He betrayed Nevada and he betrayed the country.”"

This stuff is too easy to lookup, and you are too easy to prove wrong with your wild assertations.

Jun 28, 2014 6:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

TheNewWorld: I thought you were smarter than to argue that Bush was just as much disrespected as Obama has been. But I welcome the challenge.

1. Let’s start with Mitch McConnell’s statement that, as the minority Senate leader his top priority is to make Obama a one term President. When did a high ranking Democrat make a similar statement?
2. When did a Democrat shout out something insulting during any of Bush’s SOTU speeches or any other high profile speech during which the eyes of the world would be on him? (And I won’t even go into the fact that Bush really did lie in the most egregious way, to cozen the nation into going to war. What Obama said wasn’t a lie.)
3. Democrats supported Bush on about 40% of his initiatives; Republicans supported Obama on about 5% of his. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/09/michael-tomasky-data-show-the-gop-s-one-sided-war-on-democrats.html
4. Now, name 8 major pervasive lies told about Bush and spread by the left.
1.) Obama is a Muslim
2.) Obama is a socialist
3.) Obama faked his birth certificate
4.) Obama was born in Kenya
5.) Obama had “In God We Trust” removed from Presidential One Dollar coins
6.) Obama went to India and spent $200 million a day
7.) Obama went to Afghanistan and snubbed the US troops
8.) Obama traveled around the world apologizing for America
9.) Obama put death panels in the Affordable Care Act
10.)Obamacare gives free healthcare to illegal immigrants
11.)Obama is the reason for the government’s poor response to Katrina
12.)Obama might be the anti-Christ

Okay, there’s 12. But you only have to come up with 8, but they have to have been spread enough for at least 10% of the left to believe.

Good luck with that.

Let me make something clear. I never said Democrats never say anything disrespectful about Republicans. That’s part of the political game. And, yes, sometimes they step over the line. But the point I made, and I think I was quite clear, is that no other President was treated as disrespectfully as Obama has by US conservatives. That was the statement I made. And why? The only thing different about Obama is the color of his skin.

Jun 28, 2014 8:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
CultureShock wrote:

George W. Bush invented the use of the executive order to get around congress, first considered by Rove. I am so sick and flippin’ tired of what is good for the goose not being good for the gander…ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. Each one of these parties can do what THEY like, but GOD FORBID the other side behave in the same fashion or everyone will throw back their heads and howl. Do we really expect this system to be effective? And can people really not see how it is polarizing us as people-keeping us away from good ol’ fashioned compromise. Where we use to realize that not everyone wins, but we have to concede b/c we all have to live here and love this place?

Jun 28, 2014 9:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Carny,
you state: “If you want to try to refute something I post, do so, ”
Well,
You state
* “don’t you think they’ve put up with enough sh_t from the likes of you? ” tell me what they have put up with from the “likes of” me…i.e., tell me, show me your evidence…not from others but from me and don’t re-interpret what you said. Just give the evidence of people from the likes of me…you don’t even have a clue what I am like other than I disagree with your racist stereotyping.
* you mention my ideology…again, tell me what it is…you don’t have chance in hail to state it….you have to make up stuff to attack it…that makes it simple for you. that is childish.
* Have I said Obama is not a good deserving man? or is that something else you have to make up to attack me
However, when I don’t know a someone personally, I come to my conclusions by the company he keeps (his mentors, his pastors, his appointees). These don’t speak well of him. Nor have I liked the policies he “PUSHED” through. The color of his skin is not important to me…it’s his decisions. I am sure he means well, he just stands for something I am against. Since you feel the conservatives are against him because he is black, why does Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Allen West disagree with Obama? Is because he is black or do they have legitimate reasons for their opinions. If they have legitimate reasons, why is it that other conservatives can’t have legitimate reasons (other than racism) also.
Well if the suit is not legitimate it will get thrown out and you and Obama has nothing to worry about. Quit crying…personally I don’t know enough about the lawsuit but from my opinion I don’t like the statements and decisions Obama makes.
Actually I was “on the left at one time”, but have moved to the middle. It’s just you are so biased, and so far to the left I appear to be on the right…well I am on your right but not on the right. you can’t distinguish between the two.
* you say I am incapable of explaining the boorish behavior…you have no clue of what I am capable of…the one thing I can’t explain is your racist stereotyping. Sometimes I don’t believe you are really that crazy, but just trying to stir crap up.
* you state that the republicans have kept Obama from accomplishing anything but brag about what he has accomplished…a little contradictory. has he been able to pass an health care act?
* concerning executive orders, its not the number (that’s what the demos want to hang their hat on), but its the content. That’s what I hear the conservatives complaining about…well at least the conservatives I know.
* You state “It’s reasonable to expect the President and the Democrats to get a majority of what they want because they were elected by the majority. Isn’t that reasonable?”…its not a numbers game, its content. We have to ensure we do not become like the middle east, where the elected official believes that all decisions should support or be what those who voted him into office wants. That is why they have so many rebellions and that is the type of government representation I Hear you condoning along with many of your socialist comments.
* I do believe Obama means well, and I believe he has a dream for America to be the best, to be the leader in the world. But I don’t believe he knows best on how to accomplish this. I think he has been naïve on world politics, and I don’t think he understands economics well. I definitely don’t agree with Eric Holder (and it has nothing to do with him being black).

Jun 28, 2014 9:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whipsplash wrote:

I see the right-wing talking points regarding content of EO’s has been pounded in to the sheep since they’ve lost the quantity argument, it’s just sad how brain-washed right-wing supporters are.

Jun 28, 2014 9:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Whipsplash, ridiculous comment…of course many may have thought it was the numbers. but all reasonable folks know its the content.

both the far left and the far right are ignorant of what is going on and are following like sheep…where are you?

Jun 28, 2014 10:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
EmilioG wrote:

Waa…Waa.. Mommy they won’t let me have my way! Big brat. He’s a man who clearly has not attained skilled judgment. Nope he’s all about slam through rules no matter how ill conceived or ill timed they are. He’s all about the tear down of things and people he’s out to get. He’s taken the office of President and made it about vendettas and F%c* yous. He’s too immature and destructive and could care less if America collapses and goes bankrupt so long as his agenda is crammed down our throats. Legislative processes mean nothing to him. Past resolutions signed so rogue Presidents would not abuse their power mean nothing to him. It’s all a big game to him. Well it’s not a game and our country is not some lab for him to attempt to practice his twisted experiments. Between him and Holder the amount of anti American attacks on State’s and corporations that we’ve seen are too much. I hope the lawsuit goes forward and he’s found guilty of willfull and wonton abuse of power. His ego maniacal ways have done more harm than good for our well being and peace of mind. I will be glad when he’s gone. I’ve had it with the uber liberal rabid agenda that is so contemptuous and disdainful of prudence and balance.

Jun 28, 2014 10:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

ready2013: Of course I was being sarcastic. Everyone knows that black Americans have had it made throughout the history of this nation culminating in the election of a black President. After all, they are often referred to as “the elite of America’s elite.” I guess the only thing that bothers me about the “black” experience is that Americans who tend to be conservative in their political views give this President a pass on everything. He can do no wrong. Now, I understand that America’s conservatives can be a bit over-the-top when it comes to good manners and courtesy; I get that. I also understand that they’re trying to make a point by overdoing that courteous and respectful treatment toward our first black President, showing their fellow Americans, who happen to be black, that they happily embrace this nation’s diversity and they want this President to succeed like none other. But enough is enough. They just take it too far. As if Obama can do no wrong. He IS human, you know.

Jun 28, 2014 10:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

carny, you stereotype so much its ridiculous, beyond comprehension, and its not reality. you generate hostility against those who deserve none and then they have to defend just to keep from being trampled. your statements are divisive.
Blacks have had it rough, no doubt. And racism still exist on both sides. you can’t tell me its not so. but not all actions by whites or blacks or conservatives are race motivated.
Remember where the consciousness of slavery was first observed, in the countries that practiced it and within a few hundreds years accomplished what had not happened in all of history preceding (i.e., they extinguished it within their territories)…and yet slavery still exist elsewhere – but it has not always been blacks in slavery – and whites nor conservatives have not been the most predominant that perpetuated it.
racism needs to be put in our past…you can’t let that happen, it is obvious that you will not put racism in the past. you live for racism. many of this country’s leaders live and are supported by having a racist agenda (on both sides).

lets begin to talk and not argue…can you do that?

Jun 28, 2014 11:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whipsplash wrote:

@ready2013, It becomes obvious on most major subjects when you read the same posts from multiple posters that they’ve been fed their marching orders from the right-wing media.
Knowing it all, I’m surprised you’ve never noticed this happens constantly.
No, most people are arguing that it’s the content because they have no other leg to stand on, period.

Jun 28, 2014 12:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
desertares wrote:

I really don’t think I’ve ever heard a President whine so much and blame the opposition. This administration is a ever increasing failure on just about all economic, political and foreign affairs issues. And yet, they persist in the same course.

Jun 29, 2014 4:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ajsfca wrote:

I hope he is sued. Expose the creep!

Jun 29, 2014 4:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ready2013 wrote:

Whipsplash
these aren’t the only “conservatives” or “liberals” I talk to. And just because folks disagree with you doesn’t mean they “tune in” to only the right wing media like “FOXES and FRIENDS”. But I concur, most argue strong right or strong left.

“knowing it all”…really, what an opening statement for argument…

“Content”…maybe it is the only leg to stand on…but do you need another leg? in a trial, is it the content that jury should base their decision on or just because an attorney presents a lot of irrelevant information.

“knowing it all” – thanks for the complement but I humbly disagree.

Jun 29, 2014 6:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
KDupre wrote:

What really needs to be done is for this president to: Enforce the immigration laws like he promised when he swore his oath!

He needs to remember he is not congress and he needs to make an effort to cooperate with them!

And lastly, I have to be glad that the Republicans at last are doing something about the president trying to give his office more powers.

Jun 29, 2014 8:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

If it is the content, then why – in 280 posts – is no rightie saying specifically which content is wrong?

It looks to me as though they are all saying “it is the content” because that is the party line, but don’t have a clue what tey are actually saying. Even Boehner can’t give a specific example of which content is wrong. It is just posturing, the same old appeal to the party base that is all noise and signifies nothing.

A couple of months ago all the noise was opposing Obamacare, but all that noise faded away to nothing so they need new noise which why they are putting on a ‘sue Obama’ performance. This will fade away to nothing too. The GOP always fade away to nothing.

Jun 29, 2014 9:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Whipsplash wrote:

@ready2013,
“these aren’t the only “conservatives” or “liberals” I talk to.”
This isn’t about you.

“And just because folks disagree with you doesn’t mean they “tune in” to only the right wing media like “FOXES and FRIENDS”.”
My original post wasn’t responding to “folks” disagreeing with me, I was simply making an observation.

“But I concur, most argue strong right or strong left.”
You concur? I never said “most argue strong right or strong left”.
Again, I was simply saying that the posters from the right more often than not come in parroting the talking points from the right-wing media.

“knowing it all”…really, what an opening statement for argument…”
It was an appropriate statement in response to;
“both the far left and the far right are ignorant of what is going on and are following like sheep…”

““Content”…maybe it is the only leg to stand on…but do you need another leg?”
In case your late to this debate, the original complaint from the right was the AMOUNT of EO’s Obama was using, until many from the left pointed out the amount was less than previous Presidents. That’s when the right-wing media and their sheep started arguing content.

I’m out, enjoy your day.

Jun 29, 2014 10:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@CarnivalChaos

Lets start off with the Democrats stating that GW Bush never won the election at all when he obviously did according to all of the recounts. They didn’t try to make him a one term President, they tried to make him a no term President.

Bush didn’t say any lies about Iraq. The intelligence that was presented was the exact same intelligence Bill Clinton presented before bombing Iraq. Look up Clinton’s transcript. It is about the exact same as GW Bush’s. Beyond that, we invaded Iraq to remove Hussein from power for yet again ignoring another UN resolution.

Bush reached across the aisle in his first term quite successfully because like Clinton he could work with the opposition and didn’t make fun of them, or campaign against them during his whole Presidency. This resulted in the Democrats working with him on many issues that the fiscal conservatives did not approve of. He worked directly with Ted Kennedy on expanding education spending for example.

President George W. Bush was a “deserter” from the U.S. military, claims filmmaker Michael Moore. Worse, says Democrat Party chief Terry McAuliffe: “George Bush never served in our military in our country.” And not only that, adds McAuliffe, he went AWOL. Such smears of the president, transparently filled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies, are being floated everywhere by his political opponents at the start of what promises to be a vicious campaign.

Kanye West said GW Bush hated black people.

“I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a “deserter.” What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar and a functional illiterate.”
Michael Moore

“Bush’s actions remind me of Herman Goering’s quote during the Nuremberg Trials, where he stated: ‘…it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.’” Barbra Streisand

“While President Bush likes to project an image of strength and courage, the real truth is that in the presence of his large financial contributors, he is a moral coward,”
Al Gore

“George W. Bush is evil. He is a terrorist. He is evil. He is arrogant. And he is out of control.”
Julianne Malveaux – USA Today columnist

“We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States.”
Susan Sarandon

“Bush wasn’t elected, he was selected— selected by five judges up in Washington who voted along party lines,”
Alec Baldwin

“To start with, anti-Castro groups were vital in implementing the dirty business of the butterfly ballots ensuring Bush’s victory at the 2000 elections,”
Oliver Stone

“We all need to take a deep breath and think about being a Bush daughter and having that cross to bear. I’d go out and have a couple of drinks too,”
Julia Roberts

“He is supposed to be America’s president, but he’s not my president, I didn’t vote for him,”
Carlos Santana

“What did Bush do on 9/11? He ran away and hid.
George Clooney

If you need more look them up yourself. Like I said it is easy to find. Or just read some of the stuff that Obama said about Bush.

Obama: “The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”

You can also search the comments here. There are plenty of people with dispicable things to say about GW Bush. I guess they must all hate white people based on your logic.

Jun 29, 2014 10:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

TheNewWorld’s post, powered by boycotliberalism.com -> http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Whacked.htm

Great. You found a radical right-wing blog with a few dozen anti-Bush quotes. So what? The issue here is Republicans *in congress* doing everything they can to destroy Obama’s economic recovery. The problem is your party’s extreme obstructionism – not a few comments.

You admit yourself that Democrats didn’t try to undermine Bush – “this resulted in Democrats working with him on many issues”. How many issues have Republicans worked with Obama on? None, is it? That is because they a unbelievably divisive, and stated an intent to make him a one term president by obstructing everything (‘the party of no’). See the difference?

You should check your facts. Bush didn’t win ‘according to all the recounts’. He won in the courts because he wanted to bypass the recounts.

The intelligence you claim supported Bush was also presented to the UN, who rejected it as unreliable. They were right; you Republicans were wrong. Either Republicans lied or Republicans were stupid to believe intelligence that the rest of the world rejected.

Jun 29, 2014 11:35am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@Bakhtin

I was using the quotes which are quotes to show CarnivalChaos that Obama is not the only President to be heavily criticized and lied about. GW Bush wasn’t the first either. People say nasty things about the guy they didn’t vote for. I am sure it happens across the pond as well.

The Democrats worked ok with Bush in his first couple of years as President. GW Bush had a GOP House and DNC Senate in his first 2 years and he did get things passed. But he worked with key Democrats. He didn’t go out and say how stupid they were, or complaing that they were blocking his agenda, or wouldn’t work with him. He didn’t campaign against them.

As far as the intelligence goes:

“Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike
CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq’s capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.

The inspectors undertook this mission first 7.5 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.”

It wasn’t Republican intelligence, or Democrat intelligence. The Pentagon and DoD stays relatively the same no matter who is in office. Hence, our foreign policy doesn’t change much from President to President. Shoot Obama is GW Bush 2.0 when it comes to the war on terror. But I digress. Next time you want to join a conversation mid stream, please read the post of the person I am replying to first.

Jun 29, 2014 11:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

Obama blasts everyone, except the right people…he should fire almost his entire cabinet, as they are horrible..then , he should spare the country any further embarrassment… as his presidency and experiments, are failures…he is unqualified for the job, too egotistical, to get the right people around him and for that alone, plus, disobeying our laws, he should be impeached, if he doesn’t do the right thing and resign……

Jun 29, 2014 1:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

Wow, TheNewWorld, you mean to say you’re actually trying to equate single statements made by a few famous people with actual slanderous attacks being promoted as truth by an entire political party? I think you just conceded this debate.

I mean really: “He is supposed to be America’s president, but he’s not my president, I didn’t vote for him,” Carlos Santana”

What’s your point in posting this? Statements like this are made about every President. It doesn’t mean anything in the context of our discussion, that Obama has been treated more disrespectfully than any other President. If there was an entire movement with armies of liberal talk show hosts insisting on some lie about Bush, then that would compare with the right’s claim that Obama isn’t really an American, that he faked his birth certificate, that he’s a Muslim, that he’s a socialist, etc., etc., etc., etc. Notice I didn’t post any of the nasty comments made by Jon Voight about Obama, or any comments by Stephen Baldwin. Why would I? It’s immaterial. Meaningless. Which is why I gape at your post. It’s so illogical, a non sequitur. I even made in clear in my original challenge. The lies have to be significant enough where at least 10% of folks on the left believe. I said that to filter out the silly inevitable statements that are made about every President, the kind you’ve turned to. For example, at one point Donald Trump led the polls among Republican Presidential contenders and the only thing he was saying was that Obama faked his birth certificate. Now that’s a serious, slanderous lie, the kind I’m talking about. The whole point is that this President was treated differently, shamefully different. I don’t care about statements made by individuals, but with one exception, the statement Joe Wilson made during the State of the Union because that was made while the entire world was watching. It was an insult to America and never done before. Such boorish behavior should not be tolerated, and yet Joe Wilson is still in Congress. THAT’S what I’m talking about. Not some stupid statement made by a movie star. Please. Give me a break.

Jun 29, 2014 1:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bakhtin wrote:

@TheNewWorld, I did read CarnivalChaos’ post, with its two questions that you evaded and its challenge to find 8 major lies about Obama that you haven’t met.

Of course Bush didn’t complain that Democrats were blocking his agenda. That is because they weren’t. Obama says Republicans are blocking his because they are. You can’t see the difference because you are too partisan. So partisan that you blame Obama for Republican actions.

I know you keep posting Clintons speech as though it has some significance, because the truth or Fiction blog tells you so -> http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm#.U7BQUdoaySM but it is nonsense – Clinton didn’t invade a country. Bush did. An air strike and an occupation are two very different things, regardless of what the blog tells you to think

Please quote where I said the intelligence was Republican or Democrat. if you read more carefully you will find that what I said was that Republicans believed it and the UN didn’t. The UN was right, and your guys were wrong.

Jun 29, 2014 1:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
12751ShimsRd wrote:

Each day that passes as Obama fails to uphold the law, he essentially makes a public declaration that his purpose is not to “faithfully execute” but to exploit his position of power for the furtherance of his own interests.. Rather than serving the public that elected him, he reveals a total contempt for them.

Jun 29, 2014 4:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mavolio wrote:

“During his first four years in office, Obama signed 147 such orders. In comparison, George W. Bush signed 173, Bill Clinton enacted 200 and Ronald Reagan ordered 213 in their first terms.”

Don’t care about the first year anymore how about talking about the present.

Jun 29, 2014 8:13pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Sensibility wrote:

Ah yes, it’s all starting to unravel now, isn’t it?

Mr. Obama gets angry, and the people shrug.

Jun 29, 2014 9:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

Ah yes, it’s all starting to unravel for our President thug, the socialist Muslim who traveled around the world apologizing for America while insidiously working at his master plan to destroy America and turn us all into socialist zombies. He is exploiting his position in an unprecedented power grab like nothing Americans have ever seen before. He is weak and feckless, where people just shrug when he gets angry, but at the same time he’s a power hungry tyrant bent on becoming the most powerful American President in history, ruling with an iron fist.

You people are just plain nuts.

Jun 29, 2014 11:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

Bakhtin wrote:
“If it is the content, then why – in 280 posts – is no rightie saying specifically which content is wrong?”

They have. Why don’t you try ACTUALLY READING those 280 posts?

Jun 29, 2014 12:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
theovulator wrote:

carnivalchaos wrote:
‘Ah yes, it’s all starting to unravel for our President thug, the socialist Muslim who traveled around the world apologizing for America while insidiously working at his master plan to destroy America and turn us all into socialist zombies. He is exploiting his position in an unprecedented power grab like nothing Americans have ever seen before. He is weak and feckless, where people just shrug when he gets angry, but at the same time he’s a power hungry tyrant bent on becoming the most powerful American President in history, ruling with an iron fist.”

carnivalchaos, I think that your above statements are, perhaps, A BIT too strong.

But I’m sure that MANY of the above posters will find joy in the fact that you are . . . . . finally coming around?

It’s rather quite unusual for anyone posting here to be persuaded to the other side.

Your conversion might be the first.

Jun 29, 2014 12:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

theovulator: Who wouldn’t be persuaded by such convincing arguments backed by endless facts:
- Mr. Obama gets angry, and the people shrug.
- Rather than serving the public that elected him, he reveals a total contempt for them.
- he is unqualified for the job, too egotistical, to get the right people around him and for that alone, plus, disobeying our laws, he should be impeached, if he doesn’t do the right thing and resign……
- Kanye West said GW Bush hated black people.
- No, Obama might as well be caused a white President because he is just as much white as he is black genetically. To further expound upon this, he was raided in a white household.
- I cant believe the division this President has caused in our country. Or perhaps I should say his country because I really don’t know how much longer we will be able to recognize the USA.

Like I say, who wouldn’t be swayed by such intelligent, fact-based arguments?

Jun 30, 2014 1:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

@theovulator

“Saying all that stuff though is likely to bring out the intolerant wrath of the lefties.

Watch out. USAPragmatist2, AlkalineState, TheNewWorld, Et Al, will probably be coming after you.”

Thank you. Normally I am considered an intolerant righting or Republican as Bakhtin likes to say. I roam from the left to the right on many issues.

Jun 30, 2014 10:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
harry7738 wrote:

Do you Obama bashers know what the Constitution says about Executive Order??? How about not one word. Do you know what the Constitution has to say about a President who doesn’t “tinker” with existing laws when that law needs tinkering????—-How about that President who fails to tinker can be impeached. Print out the list of Obama EO an select those that you think are deserving of impeachment. This whole thing is nothing more that a Boehner grab at keeping his job. If his law does get passed by the House—what will be its fate in the Senate. for that matter who besides the Tea Party will vote for an impeachment even in the House?

Jun 30, 2014 4:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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