GM recalls thousands of new pickups, SUVs, in U.S. and Canada

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Rhino1 wrote:

Funny how everyone points out that the airbags were made by another company and name that company. GM chose that company to provide them with airbags because they are either the best, or the cheapest(?). Point is, it is GM’s responsibility to test the quality and reliability of components they purchase outside.

When Toyota had problems with break pedals, they didn’t say: “Oh, but the floor mats were made by ….”.

It is GM’s QA department that failed in the first place. Don’t try to blame someone else.

Jun 27, 2014 9:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
111Dave111 wrote:

Rhino1: Toyota blamed the floor mats to make it sound trivial. Cars that speed out of control are not a trivial mistake. And it involves the floor mat interaction with the gas pedal stem, which is a complex engineering issue.
And Toyota has the second most recalls in five years (US), and the third most sales (US) [-2].
GM is First in Recalls and First in Sales [0],
Ford is Fourth in Recalls and Second in Sales [+2],
Chrysler is Fifth in Recalls and Forth in Sales [+1], and
Honda is Third in Recalls and Fifth in Sales [-2].

Jun 27, 2014 10:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
synoptic12 wrote:

This does not look good for Chevrolet. Computers (OBD) systems should have never been placed in autos. This was for the benefit of the technician, and more so for the customer (vehicle owner) to bring in the vehicle for service repairs. The return lies with service as the automakers are aware of. Some auto makers have even moved further to hide, or not provide any trouble codes to independent technicians. This again, keeps the service at the corporation service locations: I.E. > Chevy, Chrysler, etc.

Jun 27, 2014 10:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rhino1 wrote:

Well, now we know what you drive.

I’d go for T.

Jun 27, 2014 11:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
synoptic12 wrote:

Wrong, it’s O.

Jun 27, 2014 11:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
1996MEdition wrote:

111Dave111 said, “Toyota blamed the floor mats to make it sound trivial. Cars that speed out of control are not a trivial mistake. And it involves the floor mat interaction with the gas pedal stem, which is a complex engineering issue.”

What you failed to state was that the floor mats in question were aftermarket floor mats manufactured by a company other than Toyota. In all the cases, the aftermarket mats were laid on top of the factory mats. Toyota factory mats either snap in place or have a hook/eyelet system. Toyota has no control over what a consumer does to their car once it is purchased. Expensive/extensive investigation for a ghost-in-the-machine resulted in nothing else as a plausible cause for what occurred, yet Toyota was fined $2,000,000,000.00 for something they had no control over.

As an aside, my 1998 Chevy S-10 had cheap, rubber, factory (made and installed by GM) floor mats. They also had a tendency to push up under the gas pedal and lock the pedal in place. I was smart enough to shove the tranny in neutral, turn off the engine (without locking the steering) and coast to the shoulder. I threw the p.o.s. mats away and bought ones that I could fasten to the floor.

Jun 28, 2014 9:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sjfella wrote:

Made in the USA doesn’t mean what it used to.

Jun 28, 2014 10:56am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

It’s about time the news started reporting who the manufacturers/providers of these defective parts are. Were these parts “outsourced” to other countries for cheap labor? Why are they faulty and why weren’t the defects detected BEFORE they were used in the vehicles we purchase? This is getting very frightening. Next it will be Boeing outsourced-parts airplanes falling from the skies because of defections. No recalls on the lives lost there.

Jun 28, 2014 11:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Loucleve wrote:

so GM has recalled more cars in 2014 than they sold in 2012 and 2013 COMBINED.

why is the stock holding tight at $36?

inquiring minds want to know. the market isnt rigged, is it?

a coordinated plan by the big institutions to NOT sell any GM stock?

because that just isnt Normal.

Jun 28, 2014 3:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
111Dave111 wrote:

G.M.’s Rival Could Teach It a Lesson, Ford’s Turnaround Carries Lessons for G.M. NYTimes.
The idea that a “new, improved” General Motors emerged from the company’s 2009 brush with bankruptcy has been exposed as bogus.
The “G.M. nod” (that’s when managers nod in agreement about a course of action, but then do nothing) and
the “G.M. salute” (arms folded and pointed outward to others, as if to say that the problem is someone else’s responsibility.)
Bureaucratic malaise still rules.
Silos still reign.
So does a certain unjustified arrogance.

Jun 28, 2014 4:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
111Dave111 wrote:

1996MEdition wrote: 111Dave111 said, “Toyota blamed the floor mats to make it sound trivial. Cars that speed out of control are not a trivial mistake. And it involves the floor mat interaction with the gas pedal stem, which is a complex engineering issue.”

You are still ignoring the gas pedal stem issue.

Jun 28, 2014 4:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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