Hamas rockets land deep in Israel as it bombards Gaza Strip

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jls1948 wrote:

I do not know where you get your info but it is wrong, and I for one American will always stand with Israel as my bible has taught me

Jul 07, 2014 8:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wtguy123 wrote:

I can’t believe Israel would bomb Gaza. I know if the USA was fired upon by Mexico for ..say 5 years or so..we in America would just say stoooop. I’m sure no one in the USA would EVER attack a country that fired rockets at the USA daily..Yeah right..Israel should just make Gaza a BIG BIG sea port.

Jul 07, 2014 9:00pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wtguy123 wrote:

paul-B..you forgot about the aliens that built the pyramids and the loving way Muslims treat each other…you really need to travel or at least read something other than Fox news print outs. I live in Israel 2 months of the year. Funny thing..the Jews out number the other people. I doubt you really know anything about Jews..so your comment on “not being a Jewish state” sounds like a Sarah Palin comment.

Jul 07, 2014 9:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wtguy123 wrote:

paul-B..you forgot about the aliens that built the pyramids and the loving way Muslims treat each other…you really need to travel or at least read something other than Fox news print outs. I live in Israel 2 months of the year. Funny thing..the Jews out number the other people. I doubt you really know anything about Jews..so your comment on “not being a Jewish state” sounds like a Sarah Palin comment.

Jul 07, 2014 9:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paul-B wrote:

@wtguy. gaza is not a separate country, but a refugee camp where all the former inhabitants of southern israel have been rounded up.

Jul 07, 2014 9:08pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DJSanDiego wrote:

after one hundred fifty billion USD in Military aid Matching Grants Munitions they could never build themselves Aircraft that they say require fifty modifications to be worthy of the Jewish state…… they finally get the syntax right….It’s all true

Jul 07, 2014 9:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SoutherRican wrote:

A house in Khan Younis was flattened, probably was being used as launching pad for rockets. Unlike Hamas IDF doesn’t target civilians. When one fires UN-Guided rockets Israel with no target, they are targeting civilians period.

Jul 07, 2014 9:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

Gaza is beach front property on the Mediterranean Sea. If the fools who live there would build hotels, condos, restaurants, strip malls, and the like, people worldwide would flock there to spend money and the residents would be rich beyond their wildest dreams. But, no. Instead, they envy their inland neighbors and attack them, drawing wrath upon themselves.

Jul 07, 2014 9:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

Good….Hamas is getting forewarnings and Hamas is somewhat heeding but in the end they will be a splintergroup by the time this one is over. “A house divided cannot stand.”

Jul 07, 2014 9:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

wtguy123 wrote:……….

I love what you stated about making it a seaport…It would’nt surprize me in the least if that actually happens as all in all the world has much bigger rockets! Its all tragic what is hapening….this is a very dangerous escalation that will draw in numero uno (The US of A)

Jul 07, 2014 10:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paul-B wrote:

@wtguy123

thank you very much i am jewish, i spent 2 years in yeshiva i Jerusalem, and live in israel thoughout the whole of the second intifada, i had a friend who was killed in a sucide bombing and missed one myself by one bus stop.

i am very well aware of what is going on and i have spent a good deal of time reading the history of it, my concern if for the future and peace, as well as to state reality as it is.

Jul 07, 2014 10:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

Oh come on, don’t feed me that. First, it’s “there” (as in over there – a place or location), not “their” (possessive plural). Second, if the inhabitants of Gaza would just channel their (possessive plural) efforts constructively instead of destructively, everyone, including, no especially, the Gaza residents, would be way better off in every means known to man. Finally, I do not accept Wikipedia as an authoritative source; although I realize it is easy, quick, and convenient, but still not authoritative. They should develop the property and relegate all this ideological/religious fighting to the dustbin of history.

Jul 07, 2014 11:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
PcGuy12345 wrote:

@paul-B
Just because you’re a Jew doesn’t qualify you to be an expert on Jewishness or on Israel or on Torah. Where there’re 1000 Jews there’re 1000 different opinions. There’re a lot of smart Jews and there’re also a lot of dumb ones. There’re also a lot of anti-semitic Jews. Some of the worst Israel-haters and some of the most pro-Palestinian, suicide-bomber-Palestinian-terrorist-loving people are Jews. That’s a fact.

Jul 07, 2014 12:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paul-B wrote:

@dr stever
i rarely proof read until after i post and i forget that there is no edit function on Reuters comments.

“PcGuy12345 wrote:
Just because you’re a Jew doesn’t qualify you to be an expert on Jewishness or on Israel or on Torah.”

of coarse not!
the fact that i have 20 years of full time study of torah mishnah and gemara does.

Jul 08, 2014 1:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paul-B wrote:

@dr steve.
don’t give me that,
you can not have economic growth with out investment, and who is going to invest in a business, that might get all its exports imports cut of at any time at the wimps of israel, or have there actual business destroyed because a hamas police officer happened to be standing guard on that street.

google”we want to keep them on a diet but not starving”

Jul 08, 2014 1:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reuters1945 wrote:

It is quite true that foreign investors will hesitate to invest capital in a “war zone” like Gaza that shows no sign of the ongoing violence abating any time soon. Especially when there are so many safer places in the world to invest capital.

However capital has no religious and/or tribal affiliation.
People simply weigh the risk factors versus the reward factors.

If those members of Hamas in Gaza who fire endless barrages of rockets into Southern Israel would cease and desist with these pointless and useless activities once and for all, gradually, though it might take a year or two, foreign investors of every stripe and color just might start to see investment opportunities in Gaza which would prove a boon to both the foreign investors and help the people of Gaza achieve a far higher standard of living.

Cuba is a perfect example of how foreign capital, chiefly from Europe, has flowed into that island nation due to the fact that the business opportunities appear to far outweigh the risks.

The United States’ financial embargo of Cuba has long been recognized as a dead and useless relic of the “Cold War”.

Indeed Americans are the only citizens in the world whose government makes it a crime to try to visit Cuba even for a one week vacation thus forcing Americans to fly out of the US and then visit Cuba from a third party nation such as Canada or from an airport in Europe.

Thankfully this outmoded thinking is all changing and even the American business community desires and has been pushing to have normal relations with Cuba.

The one million plus citizens of Gaza are being held back economically, almost as if virtual hostages, by those Hamas leaders who control Gaza. It is difficult to believe that of the more than one million citizens of Gaza, there are not many hundreds of thousands who see the total futility of the endless, senseless firing of rocket attacks into Israel that only perpetuate an endless cycle of death and destruction.

We witness the exact same insanity in Iraq and in Syria where the Sunnis and the Shiites, et al have been murdering one another without respite for decades if not for centuries.

War begets war and hatred gives rise to further hatred. And adding to and compounding all this tragedy is that war is a money making business.

One need only take note of who profits from endless wars and everything instantly becomes clear as day- more is the pity.

More highly advanced and evolved civilizations in distant Galaxies must gaze down on our fragile planet, really a speck of dust in the scheme of the larger Cosmos, and shake their collective heads, wondering how we on Earth cannot seem to exist except in a state of universal and constant wars.

Jul 08, 2014 4:01am EDT  --  Report as abuse
TBellchambers wrote:

Let’s first change the headline to reflect reality:

‘ISRAEL LAUNCHES MILITARY OFFENSIVE AGAINST AN OCCUPIED PEOPLE’

Jul 08, 2014 4:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
paul-B wrote:

that alot written to follow up on an incorrect premise.
2005
palestine hold election.
hamas win,
israel is unhappy with that so it proceed to arrest all the winning parliament member of hamas in the west bank.
israel then works with fatah the pa, and egypt to send a huge shipment of weapons to fatah members in the gaza strip to wage a coup against them.
hamas finds out seizes the weapons and takes control of the gaza strip.

as for iraq the united states spent the past 25 years destroying their society.
israel imposes complete blockade on gaza strip
rockets then start getting fired.

Jul 08, 2014 4:36am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

The residents of the Gaza Ghetto (not all that disimilar to the Warsaw Ghetto) are possessed by understandable resentments, frustrations – and the associated adrenalin. They have been a powder keg for a long time – only needing a small spark.

This is a matter of pure and senseless tribalism; there isn’t a trace of civilized ‘values’ on either side.

From the Israeli perspective, they need to find & destroy the Hamas supply of missiles. Israel has an increasingly endangered border problem; separate from Gaza & the West Bank. Israel doesn’t need Hamas jumping their back, should a threat spring up from Syria and/or Lebanon – add whatever military threat which might come from Iran/Iraq.

However, given the magnitude of the Israeli attacks so far, it’s amazing that Hamas hasn’t lost radically more lives.

So, what is yet to come? If Hamas keeps launching a major number of rockets into Israel; they might get a lot of hostile ‘visitors’ in their midst.

Major military operations are highly expensive for Israel. Israel isn’t likely to waste any time in “… making their point.”

The one disadvantage which Israel has is the lack of combat experience in the IDF ranks – and a lack of the traditional zealotry. Going toe-to-toe with the Hamas militants on their own turf might be costly.

In the background, Israel also has to worry about a major flare-up in Jerusalem. Add that Benny has a “support” problem in the Knesset. If Benny can’t get adequate support, the IDF will have a major problem.

Back to waiting with the utmost expedience.

Jul 08, 2014 5:17am EDT  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

Hamas will pay for their terrorist tactics big time :)

Jul 08, 2014 6:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lucky12345 wrote:

Listen, even if Obama draws another red line in the sand, people will just laugh!

Jul 08, 2014 8:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

Since both sides have played right into Irans. hands…both sides will play with death…just as Iran wants…Israel, no matter what will be blamed by the jew haters, all over the world…so nothing will change there…Israel needs to be smart and if you are going to be blamed anyway, get rid of as much of Hamas, is possible….they are a scourge to all humanity and a satellite, of the terror state, IRAN….

Jul 08, 2014 8:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
kickabxr wrote:

When the Nazis occupied Europe the occupiers were the bad guys. The people living in the occupied territories now are the bad guys and the occupiers are the good guys. God Bless America.

Jul 08, 2014 8:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

Don’t worry. After a few thousand people are killed, things will calm back down and then the cycle will repeat. That is the story of the Middle East and its people. “Pray and Fight; Pray and Fight; Pray and Fight”.

Jul 08, 2014 9:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
sithan wrote:

Poor victims of a new Holocaust committed by an old Holocaust victims?
Not necessarily. The Jews were exterminated in World War II, most of the survivors survived precisely because they collaborated with the extermination. Few Jews were rescued alive from the concentration camps.

Jul 08, 2014 9:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

“Hamas said Israel had to “stop all forms of aggression”, recommit to a 2012 Egyptian-brokered ceasefire and release prisoners it detained in the occupied West Bank last month”
What’s this one way deal? Arafat brokered the only peace, ever. Hamas leadership is pathetic. Mashal/Haniyeh can’t control anything, as their group is very fragmented. Pathetic Abbas has better control of the West Bank. Every time Haniyeh says no more rockets, rockets fly into Sderot or Ashdod.
All the 2012 ceasefire did was help ferret a thousand missiles under Rafah. Time for Gen. Sisi to shut them down.
Israel does not want to occupy Gaza, but what are their options? I guarantee the US would have a fit if Mexican cartels fired 2 or 200 rockets at Texas.

Jul 08, 2014 10:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Doc62 wrote:

sithan, do some more reading and not from the Hitler youth.
Many Jews hid, some with help of decent people(read Ann Frank). The nazis couldn’t kill them fast enough. They had a severe lack of manpower. Guards at most camps were too old or weak for battle. Many prisoners were used as slave labor for Hitler’s “war machine” Who do you think emptied the gas chambers and buried the dead 6 million?

The USA and Israel will not commit genocide, like all these stupid muslim terrorists.

Jul 08, 2014 10:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
samrational wrote:

It’s a one sided affair, when Israel, a nation has access to its military, media machinary, and has ‘right’ to bombard palestenians based on conjectured accusations, that the other side vehemently denies.
.. and the Palestenians are denied statehood, or attention in media, when they deny their involvement in event, but are ignored, and deemed fit to be annilated to the point bordering genocide. They have no army, no border, and no protection from the ‘wrath’ of the zions, and the world will rather watch and try to find guilt in Hamas and Palestinians. – that is the world we live in.

Jul 08, 2014 10:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
samrational wrote:

It’s a one sided affair, when Israel, a nation has access to its military, media machinary, and has ‘right’ to bombard palestenians based on conjectured accusations, that the other side vehemently denies.
.. and the Palestenians are denied statehood, or attention in media, when they deny their involvement in event, but are ignored, and deemed fit to be annilated to the point bordering genocide. They have no army, no border, and no protection from the ‘wrath’ of the zions, and the world will rather watch and try to find guilt in Hamas and Palestinians. – that is the world we live in.

Jul 08, 2014 10:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
samrational wrote:

It’s a one sided affair, when Israel, a nation has access to its military, media machinary, and has ‘right’ to bombard palestenians based on conjectured accusations, that the other side vehemently denies.
.. and the Palestenians are denied statehood, or attention in media, when they deny their involvement in event, but are ignored, and deemed fit to be annilated to the point bordering genocide. They have no army, no border, and no protection from the ‘wrath’ of the zions, and the world will rather watch and try to find guilt in Hamas and Palestinians. – that is the world we live in.

Jul 08, 2014 10:29am EDT  --  Report as abuse
leopardlady wrote:

I am so sick of reading about Hamas and the Jews. This fighting is NEVER going to end with these people because they crave conflict.

Jul 08, 2014 10:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
leopardlady wrote:

I am so sick of reading about Hamas and the Jews. This fighting is NEVER going to end with these people because they crave conflict.

Jul 08, 2014 10:32am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Dr_Steve wrote:

@Doc62: I can add another name to your list of incompetent and feckless leaders – Obama. Hillary was right, “There’s no hand on the fu**ing tiller.” And I agree with your assessment of President al Sissi. He’d put a quick halt to all this mayhem.

Jul 08, 2014 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
leopardlady wrote:

kickabxr – you are exactly correct.

Jul 08, 2014 10:34am EDT  --  Report as abuse
samrational wrote:

It’s a one sided affair, when Israel, a nation has access to its military, media machinary, and has ‘right’ to bombard palestenians based on conjectured accusations, that the other side vehemently denies.
.. and the Palestenians are denied statehood, or attention in media, when they deny their involvement in event, but are ignored, and deemed fit to be annilated to the point bordering genocide. They have no army, no border, and no protection from the ‘wrath’ of the zions, and the world will rather watch and try to find guilt in Hamas and Palestinians. – that is the world we live in.

Jul 08, 2014 10:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gentalman wrote:

Does this means Israel wants to put an end to the problem once for all? This time it seems fully prepared for bigger war if it happens.
They also know if there is no support from US,they(US)will not interfere also.
Many more people will die!
This time war will be a bigger flare because Iran will not be silent,seeing both Palestine and Hisbullah are losing. Syria is getting stronger and will involve.
What a tragedy?!

Jul 08, 2014 11:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

To me, the question is not whether Israel should be fighting back against rockets fired from Gaza; I don’t think any country would sit by and do nothing while being shelled.

But, since these cycles have happened over and over again, it DOES make sense to ask how we got here. Not even going back to the founding of the modern state of Israel and its displacement of 700,000 Palestinians, there are two things Israel has done repeatedly that bother me and make me leery of supporting them rhetorically: the settlement building and the refusal to negotiate with “terrorists.”

The latter is particularly idiotic: if your next-door neighbor does things you don’t like, do you refuse to talk to them because they do things you don’t like, even though these things are EXACTLY what you need to be talking about? To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you don’t negotiate with the partner you want, you negotiate with the partner you have.

When the USA pushed for an election and Hamas was legitimately elected, my prediction was that Israel and the USA would isolate them economically and would refuse to negotiate with them. This was exactly what happened and it was a lost opportunity for which Israel is responsible.

A third idiocy is the insistence that Jerusalem be Israeli — in fact, it should be an independent district run by a council drawn from representatives of the major political factions, but obviously and at a minimum, Jews, Christians, Muslims. Israel’s refusal to consider this is another lost opportunity.

Jul 08, 2014 11:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
dwreck2you wrote:

Gaza strip is the planets largest open air prison in the world—i pray for the innocent-

Jul 08, 2014 11:20am EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

bakhtin – I do not answer questions that tell me how I am “allowed” to answer them. If you want to have a discussion, fine.

Jul 08, 2014 12:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

To Bahktin –

PS Did you read beyond the first paragraph of my post?

Jul 08, 2014 12:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

Udidit – Don’t you think that 65 years of that policy is beginning to show its inefficacy, never mind its inhumanity?

Jul 08, 2014 12:51pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Obsilutely wrote:

People who believe in imaginary people should be in mental health facilities, not shooting rockets at each other because they think their imaginary friend gave them some land. That…is stupid…

Jul 08, 2014 12:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

To the people throwing around factoids about how Jewish Israel is or isn’t and related stuff, here are some facts from WIkipedia:

* There are nearly 14 million Jews in the world, of which over 6M live in Israeli. Thus, while it is technically incorrect to say “most Jews live in Israel,” Israel does have the plurality. The next largest population is in the USA. The two count for over 11M Jews.

* 75% of the Israeli population is Jewish. About 21% are Arabs. Thus the statement that “most Israelis are not Jews” is incorrect.

* This link to an article on the website of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, discusses the degree of Jewish religiousness among the Israeli population. My take from reading it is that more than 50% are religious, but certainly not ultra-orthodox. Here’s the link:

http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles2/howrelisr.htm

Jul 08, 2014 1:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
docroc wrote:

Obsilutely – I agree that religion has done an amazing amount of damage throughout the world, but there has been good as well. I don’t think a blanket denunciation of religion is really helpful.

Jul 08, 2014 1:14pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
drmorocco wrote:

The surge in rocket fire started when israel arrested 200 Palestini’s for the murder of the three students. The question from many is why has Palestine not arrested the murderers. The answer is that israel probably has them within the 200 people already in prison. (the murder was quite sick) israel’s reaction of searching 2000 homes, blowing one up and killing 20 people was way over the top. The world knows that israel is occupying the land of another nation of people. I saw an argument earlier that said what if Mexico was shooting missils in to the US, would we stand by? What if Mexico invaded Texas 60 years ago and enslaved the Texans. Would the Texans be considered terrorists if they were fighting back to get their land and rights. They would be freedom fighters. the israeli government is not much better than the Nazi’s of WW2. How heroic to use F16s on a population without an airforce or the means to stop anything that israel throws at it. This attack on the people of Palestine is so depraved.

Jul 08, 2014 1:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Mr.JohnDoe wrote:

yeah, war over who’s the right god. Oh religion, you and your antics of manipulation and creating war.

Jul 08, 2014 1:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

Netanyahu is getting exactly what he asked for. If he had stopped murdering and suppressing the Palestinians maybe this wouldn’t be happening. So many are fooled into thinking the Israelis are respectful of anything arab. Netanyahu may as well be Hitler.

Jul 08, 2014 1:48pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

Dream on “Purplehaze.” Israel will destroy itself.

Jul 08, 2014 1:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MassResident wrote:

Israel needs to deal with its own monsters.

Jul 08, 2014 2:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Brazilian1 wrote:

I have never heard of any other army that will warn people to leave before they attack. They could have saved their lives if they had taken warning.

Jul 08, 2014 2:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Brazilian1 wrote:

BTW, Dear Nidal, my autumn crocus, congratulations for the correct usage of the word “after”.

Jul 08, 2014 2:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
raptor501 wrote:

Time to clean out Gaza. Nothing like a low emission nuclear weapon to clear out the disease known as Islam before it spreads any further.

Jul 08, 2014 3:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Poor innocent people, getting dragged into heinous acts of aggression, my heart goes out to the mothers of these innocent children, who had nothing to with this at all. Some times you wonder if there is a God?

Jul 08, 2014 3:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
nzhong168 wrote:

Let them kill. Both Israel and Hamas are able to accept each other. To less degree, in comparison, that is what is happening between Democrat and Republican. The result is do nothing congress.

One can argue and justify actions by history, religion, but I don’t know how many people in other country other than USA agree that the action of killing three Israel teens (let us assume Hamas) justified Israel rounding up 400+ people and kill a dozen during searching) and escalating the conflict to all out war.

Israel really need to deal with its own monsters too if it ever need supports other than USA.

It does not mean I side with Hamas. Blood for blood, eye for eye. Let them kill.

Jul 08, 2014 3:23pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

The last time that the territory now known as Israel was occupied by Europeans, and the current Israelis are European jews who began migrating in the late 1880′s, the muslims fought for 195 years, from 1096 to 1291 to drive them out. This war has 129 years to go if the US and Israel last that long.

Jul 08, 2014 3:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carlmartel wrote:

The US and Israel deserve the punishment that they inflict on themselves. They blow up their computers, digital cameras, and cell phones in smart munitions. They waste billions of gallons of their gasoline, diesel fuel, and aviation fuel. They waste billions of their man hours in unproductive work to keep land where their neighbors don’t want them and will fight for as long as it takes to remove them. The US and Israel do this to themselves.

Jul 08, 2014 4:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

only winners of this horror and endless circle of death is IRAN..who engineered this event and rockets, thru their puppet Hamas…Just like the north Koreans did with the Vietcong…then the north viets set the cong up to be destroyed, during tet..Notice who inherited all of Vietnam..sure wasent the viet cong..Guess who will inherit a nuclear wasteland, in the middle east , when Iran announces to the world we have nukes… sure wont be hamas, or the Palestinians..it will be IRAN…

Jul 08, 2014 4:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
justcause wrote:

Was it really worth for Hamas to kidnap these children? What a waste of life!!!

Jul 08, 2014 4:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Calfri wrote:

@leopardlady: Hamas having all this power now in Gaza is really Israel’s fault. After Arafat died, Abbas came to power then and everyone knew Abbas was an accomodationist. Israel could have helped Abbas win credibility with his own people by helping him, knowing Abbas was someone who wanted to do business with them. Instead they humiliated him and turned him into an extremely unpopular figure with his own people. Out of desperation, people turned to Hamas, which was at least willing to “do something” about the occupation.

Jul 08, 2014 4:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Our hearts and best wishes go out to all innocent people on both sides of this insane conflict!

The time has come for us to set up a New Jewish state in a more peaceful part of the world!

Until we manage that, however, we send out our full support to the Israeli people and IDF for providing all of us Jews around the world with the second best possible option!

Jul 08, 2014 5:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

another prophecy laid out in Zechariah is coming to fruition as it was foretold when the last of the last days was upon us. its utterly amazing seeing biblical prophecy unfold before our very eyes. israel is a tiny sliver of a place compared to the vast arab lands around them yet they are the epicenter of global events. many prophecies have come true already you can read it below.

“The Lord, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares: “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness,” declares the Lord. “I will keep a watchful eye over Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. Then the clans of Judah will say in their hearts, ‘The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God.’ – Zechariah 12:1-5

http://www.raptureready.com/soap2/franklin1.html

Jul 08, 2014 5:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
JakobStagg wrote:

Perhaps we are over thinking this. One attacks another. The other reacts or responds. Escalation almost always follows. It has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. It only has to do with who is still alive at the end.

Where does it end? It hasn’t in that region for thousands of years.

Jul 08, 2014 5:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
hmp49 wrote:

Dr_Steve wrote:
Gaza is beach front property on the Mediterranean Sea. If the fools who live there would build hotels, condos, restaurants, strip malls, and the like, people worldwide would flock there to spend money

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The first part is right, the Palestinians do have all these things in Gaza.

But people won’t flock to the terrorist haven.

http://chersonandmolschky.com/tag/5-star-hotels-in-gaza/

Jul 08, 2014 5:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bbsnews wrote:

The supreme irony here is that US Christians loathe Jews. They believe that supporting Israel will usher in their imaginary Second Coming(tm) of a man, not a god.

Meanwhile, according to so many American Christians, the Jews must convert to Christianity of face an eternity in hellfire. American Christians hate Jews more than any other religion, even Muslims do not want to kill all Jews and they have their own extremists who believe in a myth that there are 72 virgins and “paradise” awaiting them if they martyr themselves.

But American Christians believe in similar insanity. A complete and utter destruction of Judaism and for those that do not convert, eternity in the fiery pit.

Leaving the myths aside, Israel is once again proving it hates the rule of law so it will continue to suffer increasing resistance until Israel stops the theft and killing of innocent Palestinians.

Jul 08, 2014 6:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
TheEuropean56 wrote:

The more accurate headline should read: “Gaza rocket fire surges after Israel continues with bombardments” To make it neutral, just say “as” instead of “after”. By using “after”, you are promoting the Israeli line.

Jul 08, 2014 6:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

This could get interesting! Just how far will this go? For that matter, how did this mess evolve? Lets see …..

In 1948, “Israel” formed their sovereignty in their ‘UN-alloted territory;’ whereas the “Palestinians” have never been able to ‘organize’ their UN-alloted territory to a sufficient degree to either assert or ‘form’ anything approaching a “sovereignty.” Thus, the Palestinians have long suffered as the Israeli “untermenchen.” Against the history of the “world” routinely creating sovereign states to the benefit of ‘oppressed people;’ the Pallies have never quite made it onto the political radar of history. Ironically, what is now “The Jewish State of Israel” (formal name) was previously known as “Palestine!”

Almost amazingly, Netanyahu recently spoke in favor of the deserving independence/sovereignty of the Kurds in northern Iraq – but clearly wants no part of an independent/sovereign Palestinian “state.” The implied issue being that the Kurds can supply Israel with oil.

For all the UN Resolutions against Israel, since the “1967 War,” addressing Israel’s ‘conquest’ of territory – including their steady ‘settlement’ incursions into the “Palestinian Territory” – , the world somehow manages to always turn a politically and convenient blind eye to the matter. So, here we are – again.

Sure, Israel has a ‘case’ against the Pallies. You hit someone, they cry in pain; so you hit them harder – to shut them up. That’s been the ‘norm’ of the Palestinian existence, since 1948.

So, it’s “alleged” that some Hamas figures kidnapped & killed three teenagers in the West Bank. So, Israel once again ‘bopped’ Hamas – to thier extreme resentment and consequent action. Once again, Israel cries out: “Mommy! Mommy! Billy hit me back; it’s not fair.”

Naturally, the White House instantly sides with Israel – as though Israel ever did anything of significance for the USA (Save for gladly accepting billions & billions in U.S. taxpayer cash, grants, forgiven loans and unlimited armaments.)

Unfortunately, Israel hasn’t yet “proven” their case against the ‘alleged” Hamas kidnappers. It should strike anyone that it’s ‘odd’ that Hamas (faction) figures would be ‘operating’ in the West Bank. Admittedly, there is nothing to rule out that possibility. Regardless, the fight is obviously ‘on.’ The walled-in Palestinians – Hamas in particular – seem to have a nasty attitude problem. But ….

Warsaw Ghetto or Gaza Ghetto; what’s the difference? – Hitler didn’t use vastly superior U.S. weapons against the Jewish Ghettos.

How did Ronald Reagan say it – “Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!” But, no one wants to speak to the Israeli walls which keep the Palestinians penned in. Well, whether right or wrong, that’s just the way things are – sorry about that!

Realistically, there is no significant “morality” in any of the 21st Century battles and wars; “might makes right.” The 21st Century is witnessing highly sophisticated “tribalism;” as brutal as any in history – whether in GAZA or on the U.S. southern border. Not all that much different from backing one’s home town sports team.

In any case, Israel has taken on a dire military operation. Israel is destined to first “soften” Hamas with “stand-off warfare.” That is to say that they will first use sophisticated intelligence and (American) long-range weaponry – sparing IDF lives. (No doubt, Hamas – and the rest of the Arab world – will see that as “cowardice.” )

But, the ‘test’ of this current Israeli operation will come when/if the IDF forces walk into the Hamas/Gaza towns. The Hamas fighters are prepared to essentially commit suicide, against the IDF. That’s called “Asymmetric Warfare” – nasty stuff, if one prefers survival. Save for pure “zealotry,” the Hamas fighters are not particularly known for their bravery. BUT, in the coming events, can they compensate with ‘cleverness?’ They will certainly have the home-court advantage.

For all the “Arab Springs,” how much new and/or sophisticated weaponry has Hamas gained? A major stockpile of RPGs, alone, would give Hamas a significant advantage – at least in theory. Their fighters would have to get close enough to use them. Does Hammas have enough missiles – and the capacity to fire them – to exceed the capacity of the Israeli “Iron Dome?” Fortunately for Israel, the Hammas missiles are rarely effective. Paradoxically, the Hamas missile launches do a far better job of marking targets for the Israeli bombs & missiles.

By now, it’s reasonable to assume that the Hamas fighters will have learned ‘warfighting’ from other regional examples, such as ISIS (the value of snipers, for example). The Pallies have long been “tunneling.” If they have any magnitude of ‘underground’ assets, they may give the IDF a really nasty fight.

From Israel’s last ‘adventure’ into Lebanon, it’s apparent that the IDF suffers two major disadvantages; the current generation of IDF soldiers lack combat experience – and the traditional Israeli zealotry. Observing fairly recent history, how much of a ‘beating’ will the IDF soldiers have to take, until the Israeli public/government makes the mistake of calling off the fight?

Especially for the Israeli IDF, “time is of the essence.” Israel’s best chance for a well-defined “victory” is to strike very hard and very quickly. But, in this instance, is that possible? Israel is probably looking at the inconvenience of drawn-out urban warfare. That’s deadly, time consuming and expensive.

Historically, Hamas has essentially “won” by out waiting the IDF. What will the reality be, this time? The one major advantage which Israel has is truly great intelligence gathering. Thus, it’s
necessary to ponder the possibility that Israel has the ability
to destroy/penetrate the hiding places which Hamas depends upon – and quickly so. Israel has also been working overtime to produce “drones’ which rival the U.S. Predator. Are those operational, yet? We’ll see.

However, it shouldn’t be lost that Israel is also facing far greater ‘regional’ threats. Their biggest nightmare is a threat from Syria & Lebanon – potentially long-range missiles from Iran. Unfortunately for Israel, the Hezbollah fighters have been gaining valuable combat experience in Syria; also acquiring major weaponry. Fortunately for Israel, neither Jordan nor Egypt want a fight with anyone, including Israel.

In the broader perspective, is it possible that Israel has decided that they don’t have the latitude to risk the Pallies jumping their flank; should a major regional engagement arise – and that this is as good a time as any to finally “Arafatize” Hamas into the history books?

In the periphery of this “Gaza” operation, Mahmoud Abbas, President of the (West Bank) Palestinian Authority (Fatah faction) has been careful to NOT agitate Israel to a dangerous degree. On the surface, that keeps the ‘heat’ away from the West Bank.

However, the ‘Palestinians’ are currently ready to lynch Abbas; just over his accommodation of the Israeli search for the missing Israeli teenagers. Hence, it’s also necessary to speculate on whether or not the West Bank will also become drawn into this latest fight. Meanwhile ….

On this side of the pond, the DC “voices against Syria” are starting to be heard, again. Is Assad finally gaining against “the rebels” – to the particular dissatisfaction of Israel? As a consequence, is the “Israeli Lobby” gaining new traction within the Beltway? Is this “Gaza” operation part of a bigger picture? Who can say, with any certainty?

We must endeavor to persevere; by waiting with great expedience. This could get interesting. But, what a mess!

Jul 08, 2014 6:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bbsnews wrote:

@euro56 Actually the more factual headline would be “Israel Escalates War On Palestinian Unity Government”.

Jul 08, 2014 6:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Crash866 wrote:

How’s that Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy working for you now…

Jul 08, 2014 7:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
a_comment wrote:

for all this ongoing conflict and death, the “2 state solution” still seems to be the objective. What no one has yet explained to me is how you are going to have a sovereign state of Palestine, when you have two non-contiguous land masses…Gaza and the West Bank. How does either side propose to resolve this problem?

Jul 08, 2014 8:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bbsnews wrote:

“a-comment”, the long known solution to the land corridor in question was intended to be solved by agreed to land swaps. Unfortunately, Israel has decided that it wants the One State Solution(tm) that used to be dreaded but they have now admitted.

See: http://bbsnews.net/israel-deputy-defense-minister-danon-admits-ethnic-cleansing-plans/

Jul 08, 2014 8:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
a_comment wrote:

bbsnews ~ having read your link, it seems, given the tenor of that link, that “intended to be solved by agreed land swaps” isn’t even remotely likely. That map citation was from 2007 and is not even viable 7 years later… so I reiterate: how do you form a sovereign state of 2 non-contiguous land masses? If they are truly unable to answer that question with a modicum of certainty, then war in inevitable.

Jul 08, 2014 9:43pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Butch_from_PA wrote:

I keep saying, there is an easy viable non destructive solution here that will be much less expensive in the long run for Israel.

They want the land as per the tales in their Bible and want a pure state with only their kind. Palestinians are known to be a wandering nation. Israel has billions of dollars in aide from the USA and have developed technologies and a thriving economy with all the USA funds.

Palestinians are fast loosing any viability for survival and with all the security and blockades of import/export – financial genocide is inevitable.

If Israel and Palestine (Jews and Palestinians) really wanted peace and could put away all their hatred and vengeance for awhile – a deal can be struck to buy out Palestine. Very simple – one million dollars for every non Jew man woman and child. Give 6 months to work out legitimate proof and 100 million to deal with lesser buyouts for cases not easily proved.

Many nations would eagerly take millionaires as immigrants. You could even work out a special United Nations conventions to work out the arrangements.

Israel would have their land as per the founding Zionists dreams and Palestinians – who are a nation of wanderers could start families and business in their new home – away from all the Apartheid practices.

Will this or something similar happen? No – both political parties have too much to loose. Power is a funny thing. You can justify crushing suffering and fear for your fellow citizens – as long as it propagates your importance and power.

It would be great to see a grassroots movement of both nations to work out a plan and force or throw out their equally oppressive governments. Cain and Abel spring so to speak.

Jul 08, 2014 11:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
bbsnews wrote:

“a-comment”, I do not get your uncomfortableness with the fact that the Two State Solution(tm) has long included a requirment that Israel must leave the Occupied Palestinian Territories and a land corridor to make Palestine contiguous.

This has been the internationally accepted formula for decades based up UNSCR 242 in _1967_. “…Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;, and from the Clinton Parameters in January 2001:

“The establishment of a “sovereign, viable Palestinian State that would accommodate Israel’s security requirements and the demographic realities”. It would include the Gaza Strip and “the vast majority of the West Bank”, while settlement blocks would be incorporated into Israel “with the goal of maximizing the number of settlers in Israel while minimizing the land annex, for Palestine to be viable must be a geographically contiguous State”; some territorial swaps and other arrangements would be needed to make the agreement “durable”.

See: http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/D57AFCDD6EB1445585256E37006655E4#sthash.JpM1qrCO.dpuf” – The war Israel has long waged on the Palestinians has already lasted decades to the everlasting shame of the United States. You and I pay for it.

Jul 08, 2014 11:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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