Ukraine threatens rebels with 'nasty surprise' in new push

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DellStator wrote:

If the billionaire wants the foreign fighters, and especially their Moscow born and bred leaders to leave, he should just out bid whatever Russia is paying them. I’m sure Russia is giving them chicken feed (and a free pass home, like they did their puppet Ukrainian pres who fled to Moscow when he realized the jig was up). Really, I bet he’d only have to pay a million a piece to 10, 50 guys most to break the back of the Russian mercenaries who have invaded his city. Chicken feed compared to his billions. BUT the mega rich NEVER part with their money – I’d bet he’d want the Ukrainian gov’t to tax the people to come up with the pay off.

Jul 07, 2014 9:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

Strelkov’s whereabouts were not immediately clear. Rebel sources said two other prominent local separatist leaders, Alexander Boroday and Denis Pushilin, were in Russia.

Not surprised that they are now sowing discourse from affair.

Jul 08, 2014 5:20am EDT  --  Report as abuse

sorry, “afar” not “affair”

Jul 08, 2014 5:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Alekhin wrote:

Poroshenko should stop bombing his own cities and people, its not so effective as he wishes.
But if he wants more killed people and destroyed helycopters.. Why not.

Jul 08, 2014 6:24am EDT  --  Report as abuse
itsmysayokay wrote:

Get those Russian Speaker terrorists and wipe them from every bastion in site!

Jul 08, 2014 6:41am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Athen wrote:

Putin now has trying to woo Raul Castro to allow him to install some nuke warhead missiles in Cuba soil to scare US so that it can not further support Ukraina to stand against Russia aggression.
But Putin would fail his plan as Raul Castro would never accept to be Russia’human shield because Cuban have severally suffered for the cause of hyper imaginary Socialism for over past five decades.

Jul 08, 2014 7:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
tatania wrote:

Poroshenko will go down in history of Ukraine as a person supporting the war. not the one who acted in the interests of his own country. It is not wise to look for enemies in your country, but to get people to support you, this is what should do the President Or he is a governor of state Ukraine. Democrate? Subordinated to Obama?

Jul 08, 2014 7:31am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CanRus wrote:

“We’re not preparing ourselves for a siege. We are preparing ourselves for action.”
Of that I have no doubt. Putin’s orders to Borodai and Girkin are clear – cause as much death and destruction in Ukraine as possible. They’ll make sure retaking Donetsk is as bloody as possible, with as many civilian casualties as possible. Ukrainians must be severely punished for defying Putin.

DellStator wrote:
“If the billionaire wants the foreign fighters, and especially their Moscow born and bred leaders to leave, he should just out bid whatever Russia is paying them.”
Might fix things short-term, but not long-term. What if Putin outbids him again? Then they’d just switch sides again. Escalating corruption isn’t the answer. That’s what got Ukraine into the mess it is today. Better to get rid of the troublemakers – permanently.

smokeymtnblues wrote:
“Not surprised that they are now sowing discourse from afar.”
Yeah, the local terrorists’ brave Russian masters… being defiant and giving orders from the safety of Moscow, under Putin’s skirt. :) If Girkin (Strelkov) hasn’t already fled back to Russia too, I’m sure he’s planning his escape. Why should he sacrifice himself for a bunch of lowly Ukrainians? ;)

Athen wrote:
“Putin now has trying to woo Raul Castro to allow him to install some nuke warhead missiles in Cuba soil…”
If it’s true, Putin is even more delusional than I thought. The Cuban government would never agree to such a suicidal deal… no matter how many billions Putin offers them. Look what happened to Yakunovitch. Cuban leaders read the news too. Not to mention the US would probably blockade Cuba. It’s nonsense…

Jul 08, 2014 7:42am EDT  --  Report as abuse
BraveNewWrld wrote:

@smokeymtnblues

Is that the new name for Carpathian hills :-)?

Jul 08, 2014 9:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
gentalman wrote:

No political problem has been solved by battle.The best course is to sit and communicate.Look at how India and Pakistan have avoided friction and bloodshed so far despite serious differences.
It seems Kieve with new president is going too far without estimating their overall capability in terms of military and finance.How much they can depend upon EU who themselves have differences.

Jul 08, 2014 9:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

Mr. Putin is a liar, terrorism supporter and invader. He should never be trusted again!

Jul 08, 2014 11:09am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

So, Mr. Poroshenko–how many more bridges do you plan on blowing up?

Jul 08, 2014 11:15am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

Athen–you must be from another planet. What you are saying doesn’t make sense. You must had read it in Mad magazine.

Jul 08, 2014 11:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
deadterrorist wrote:

Lets see what these surprises will be. Fuel air bombs, white phosphorous, cluster bombs with these guys who can tell!!

Jul 08, 2014 11:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
valvdr wrote:

Wow, I am reading all these comments, and finding it interesting that those who are pro-West-Ukrainian are calling to kill, kill all of them, kill more, etc. While, pro-Russian ones are calling to stop fighting, etc. Is it just me, or those pro-West-Ukrainian really fascists? Why are they so blood-thirsty otherwise?

Jul 08, 2014 1:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Soldat wrote:

Perhaps the best solution would be to expel the ethnic Russians from the Ukraine. Let them live in Russia under Putin.
For those who accuse the Ukrainian President of being a Western puppet, lets remember that Putin was saying that pro-Western presidents prior to this one needed to know their place” (under Moscow’s thumb,of course).
I do wonder when Putin will let Chechnya hold free elections to decide if it would like to be independent of Russia.

Jul 08, 2014 1:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
branchltd wrote:

When Stalin was in power he increased the quota for Ukrainian farmers so that they would starve to death. 10 million Ukrainians did. Then he sent these Russians there. They’ve been a plague ever since. Odessa and the other provinces needed anywhere from 0.7 to 2.0 billion in aid from the Ukraine each. After this, the Ukraine should refuse to send aid to them.

Jul 08, 2014 2:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

It’s really interesting to know that 2 sides are have a discourse here, however anti Russian it is. Why can’t they do the same in their own homelands. My take was that, Russians were the aggressive ones, but from the news we see on Reuters, seems like Ukraine has developed new “balls” or is it the EU/USA whispering words of encouragement in Poroshenko’s ears.

Jul 08, 2014 2:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
deadterrorist wrote:

@valvdr
I must agree with your points some of these comments are disgusting. Stuff like let them leave Ukraine or they were a plague etc. People here also seem to blame Russia for everything whereas most calls for an end to violence come from them. A political solution is the only decent end to this conflict.

Jul 08, 2014 3:34pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“A security official said the government’s plan to clear rebels from the two big towns of Donetsk and Luhansk would come as an “nasty surprise” for the insurgents.”

Wonder what that could be. . .like a series of singing telegrams that blow up at the end, or maybe an army of sentient robots? Maybe they issued the troops Putin masks, to put the separatists off-guard.

Jul 08, 2014 3:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Azulinhas wrote:

Ukraine will bankrupt itself in pursuit of victory in this unnecessary war

Jul 08, 2014 5:42pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kommy wrote:

The only surprise is that rebels army withdrew without any opposition from what became a pile of rubble, to build new fortified positions in capital cities of Lugansk and Donetsk.

4 months of fighting ended with nothing, now Ukrainian army must move further, and the clock is ticking.

Collapse of Ukrainian economy is imminent.

Jul 08, 2014 9:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

I’m just going to go ahead and declare my neighborhood the People’s Republic of Me. I am going to blockade my streets and take up arms to defend my new republic.

Afterward, I fully expect the President of the United States to come down and have a discussion with me about this.

Yeah, sounds pretty psychotic doesn’t it?

Jul 08, 2014 10:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kommy wrote:

People of Donetsk and Lugansk have spoken- they don’t want to have anything in common with western Ukraine.

Western Ukraine has it own problems- with entering EU they will face the wave of restitution from Poland and Jews they slaughtered en mass in WWII.

Jul 08, 2014 11:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pyradius wrote:

Hey kommy,

You realize that Germany is a major player in the EU right?

Oh and you are right, a minority of the people of Donetsk and Lugansk have spoken, and guess what? The minority doesn’t get to decide what the majority want.

“But according to a new poll by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, a vast majority of those living in Ukraine — both in the restive east and more nationalist west — want the country’s borders to remain the same, despite the many political and social tensions that have come to the surface in recent months.

Only 18 percent of those surveyed in eastern Ukraine think the country’s regions should be allowed to secede — a statistic that serves as something of a rebuke to Pushilin and his fellow separatists. The entire Pew study is worth exploring. (You can read about its methodology here.)”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/08/new-poll-shows-eastern-ukraines-separatists-are-wrong/

Jul 08, 2014 12:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Svaboda wrote:

The end is near in Luhansk and Donetsk. The Russian Separatist leaders have fled to Russia and only a few disillusioned separatist soldiers remain to defend the two cities. The respectable people within the city limits of Luhansk and Donetsk will finish off these separatist soldiers, knowing that Poroshenko is coming to rescue them.

Jul 09, 2014 1:21am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CanRus wrote:

MonitorLizard wrote:
“So, Mr. Poroshenko–how many more bridges do you plan on blowing up?”
I hope that was sarcasm. You don’t really expect to convince anyone the Ukrainian government destroyed their own bridges – one while a train was crossing it? This was obviously the work of one of the terrorist groups. That’s one of the things terrorists do – destroy a country’s infrastructure. Why would Ukraine destroy one of the main ways they can bring troops, artillery and tanks to Donestk? To quote your own words – what you’re saying doesn’t make sense, you must have read it in Mad magazine. The terrorists are the only ones who could gain by doing this.

deadterrorist wrote:
“Lets see what these surprises will be. Fuel air bombs, white phosphorous, cluster bombs with these guys who can tell!!”
Too late! The evil Nazi fascist junta has already been doing this for weeks. You can read all about it on RT and VoR. The nasty surprise is – they’re going to nuke Donetsk. The US has loaned Kiev some B-2s.

Azulinhas wrote:
“Ukraine will bankrupt itself in pursuit of victory in this unnecessary war”
That’s certainly what Putin is hoping and trying to do. It’s his Plan B.

pyradius wrote:
“I’m just going to go ahead and declare my neighborhood the People’s Republic of Me. I am going to blockade my streets and take up arms to defend my new republic.
Afterward, I fully expect the President of the United States to come down and have a discussion with me about this. Yeah, sounds pretty psychotic doesn’t it?”
Lol! Yeah, pretty psychotic. :) And exactly what Putin’s terrorist squad did.

Jul 09, 2014 8:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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