Four servicemen, five miners killed in eastern Ukraine

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gentalman wrote:

What could be nastier than what is going on. It seems wider will affect the whole of Eucraine and even region.
I wonder how a weak army became stronger overnight.May be volunteers and advisers are there from other countries just like as with rebels.
It seems it is the ground of proxies of mightier countries.

Jul 10, 2014 10:09pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
kommy wrote:

Ukraine army is virtually non-existent, all those who pressing forward are mercenaries or brownshirts.

Jul 10, 2014 10:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Tolan wrote:

Chocolate Butcher in ethnic cleansing in Eastern Ukraine action.

Jul 11, 2014 1:58am EDT  --  Report as abuse

At least the Kremlin Chorus is chiming in with the comments.

Jul 11, 2014 4:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
hto_eto wrote:

“Ukrainian separatists”

Very strange name for mercenaries hired mostly in Russia.

I would prefer “Russian annexationists”

Jul 11, 2014 4:49am EDT  --  Report as abuse
CanRus wrote:

Yep, they were up early this morning. :)

I second that!

Jul 11, 2014 8:10am EDT  --  Report as abuse
FRPSR wrote:

The deadly trouble is certainly formed from the great distance of those principal authors being proxies funding in practical terms the tensions between issues removed from Ukraine , once remote , now as deadly extensions of idle chat in restaurants to secretaries official chambers . The consequence of the Ukrainian “pursuit of happiness” being reduced into staying alive . Provoking discord in ordinary homes for purposes locals would in the main fail to assume . The power funding these notional hostilities being remote centers whose principals would struggle to name the towns where people are now slated to die for them . This being based , one assumes , on as trivial a motive as an ill conceived boast . The failure of maintaining transparency between governmental operations and the individuals responsible for doctrinaire posturing being the fulcrum where good people are not aware that they are ‘not’ doing nothing , and shockingly are ‘not’ doing good .
The balance of contending matters , which would be considered trivial , or as familiar as a distant galaxy , measured against the wants of ordinary locals , are fixed from an office where the natives language is not , and never will be spoken . The living bury their dead while outsiders maintain the heat of distracting , hotly contending issues well removed from the daily , routine matters of a suddenly grieving targeted locals . Closing a circle that employs the growing vicious heat into a sharp focus of the ‘How’ in remaining alive one more day , not from the lists of boilerplate , but reducing ethnic tensions by the clinically tested removal of ethnic groups . Lincoln remarked that any town that hardly keeps one lawyer employed , can easily afford two .
The otherwise live and let live issues of daily life are dragged into a once alien partisan heat forcing alliances from people whose decision making would naturally be uncommitted to political theatre , now cleansed from the sanctuary of sanity .
Being as most of us are busy coping in our own lives , the faith of our security to remain so without the unhappy force of an alien , or proxies application of existential focus making an ‘Us and Them’ from the sanguine “We the people’ so diverting the living , isolating remaining matters into airless examinations of life and death for what was friends and neighbors . What would ordinarily be visits of sophmoric tedium , become perversely involved exercises determined by actors whose lives and motives could hardly be more remote to those providing an answer to the question that no longer exists in schools and childrens exercises , but the soft arms extending military operations into anonymous rural locales , determining who is protected , and who is slated for hot operations .

Jul 11, 2014 9:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
You_No wrote:

Intricate and nuanced way of expressing that those in the US and Russia, and perhaps China, Germany and Poland, should mind their own business.

Unfortunately, it cannot be ignored that:
1. It was Ukrainians who took to the streets en-mass. Why or how they got there really is second to your concerns for individuals who may or may not be involved.

2. It is largely Russian media, giving the ouster of their favorites a thumb’s down in the form of hysterical media, doubled and tripled, so as to apologize for Russia’s invasion and subsequent false representation of Crimea’s population’s wishes, which has actually brought some individuals in Russia, and perhaps in eastern Ukraine, to the idea that they must sacrifice themselves to secure themselves from that which was not threatening anything except a millennium of corrupt feudal lords.

I think that it is possible for Ukraine to build and grow as a civil and citizen ruled nation, and that the EuroMajdan has been one heavy lurch toward this goal.

It behooves everyone to encourage Ukrainians to dream and talk.

None of our nations know how to navigate this future fully, and Ukraine has an opportune time to reform under conditions which our grandparents could only see in science-fiction books.

Jul 12, 2014 1:00am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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