Grieving Dutch minister made Europe re-think Russia sanctions

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up4it52 wrote:

Close all the embassies…kick all Russians out, diplomats and athletes…end all ties and no sporting ties either….don’t allow them into our countries at all…no Aeroflot flights into any of our countries…bet that would hit home instantly !!!

Jul 25, 2014 9:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MaryMag wrote:

Good for them. History has proven that appeasement can lead to disaster.

Jul 26, 2014 1:22am EDT  --  Report as abuse
WestFlorida wrote:

The sanctions will not be enough. Russia will persist in its military expansionism. More will come.

Jul 26, 2014 5:52am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

In all fairness, let’s slap some sanctions on the Ukraine. The Ukraine and Russia are telling conflicting stores all the time. It is hard to tell who is on the level.

Jul 27, 2014 8:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
logicus wrote:

The US and EU are applying more sanctions on Russia before determining who was responsible.

Jul 31, 2014 1:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MihalisBenko wrote:


The Ukrainians removed Yanukovich via a constitutional and legal process. Russia annexed Crimea with virtually no military resistance from Ukraine which was seeking appeasement even after the annexation. Only after Russia clawed into other regions did the Ukrainians started fighting. Unlike the Russians the Ukrainians have always been open to a negotiated settlement, going as far as offering regional autonomy to separatists as long as they uphold the territorial integrity of the country! Beyond that the Ukrainians always allowed for and protected foreign observers, journalists and UN investigators, they never hid anything from the world. Unlike Russian separatists that have repeatedly detained or kidnapped foreign observers, journalists, negotiators and UN staff. We should be supporting Ukraine even more directly, with cross training with NATO and equipment.

Jul 31, 2014 2:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JPHR wrote:

From a Dutch semi-goverment think tank:
That PDF goes a long way in explaining why US and EU are trying to rack up tension every step of the way. Nations in fear are much easier to manipulate.
The EU and its future development are already under scrutiny. No way TTIP can be sold within a normal functioning democracy. So crate a crises and as the PDF states:
“TTIP….a new coalition…with EU and US at its core”
“Hillary Clinton labels TTIP as “an economic NATO’”
“Five reasons this Realist First Approach To TTIP is wise: First, TTIP can renew NATO”

Naomi Klein’s ‘The Shock Doctrine’ explains how to use a crises even if you have to create one yourselves.

Remember this same Dutch minister referring to ‘political gaming’ during his speech at the UN?
Every step of the way he has in fact been exploiting MH17 while not ignoring the US intelligence acknowledgment that there is no evidence of direct Russian involvement.

Jul 31, 2014 3:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bfstk wrote:

Emotional decisions that are poorly thought out rarely lead to something worthwhile in international affairs. If Kiev hadn’t started a war against its own people the airliner would never have been shot down. Over a thousand men, women and children have been killed and many thousands more injured in eastern Ukraine with connivance of the Dutch and the rest of the EU. It is their policies that are the root cause of the tragedy. Much easier to blame the Russians or “separatists” even though Ukraine itself could have shot it down. These clowns in Ukraine claim they aren’t hitting civilian targets. C’mon.

Jul 31, 2014 7:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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