West agrees wider Russia sanctions as Kiev says forces near crash site

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malkavian wrote:

Why wouldn’t the Ukrainian government conduct a ceasefire to let the investigators proceed? Why do they attack the towns and kill civilians and no one cares?

Jul 28, 2014 9:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
lub wrote:

This is rather new. There have been schools, hospitals, kindergartens where Ukrainian bombs have fallen but no church so far. Well until today. For those who are interested in sources here is a video documenting an aftermath of this event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y7I82tGzvuw

Meanwhile the US again presents faked satellite images created by US counselors with close links to Ukraine’s Security Council to build a case of shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory.

Jul 28, 2014 10:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

“Pro-Russians” should move to Russia. It’s 15 minutes away. Is Putin keeping them out or something?

Jul 28, 2014 11:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

malkavian: the Ukrainian government did conduct a ceasefire, but the Russian-paid terrorists, aka the rebels, kept firing at and killing the Ukrainian forces during ceasefire.

AlkalineState: Nope, Putin is keeping them in… :)

Jul 28, 2014 12:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
malkavian wrote:

UauS
Is that the reason behind the offensive of the Ukrainian forces? They ‘close in’ on the crash site, despite the fact that ceasefire was announced in 40km radius.

Jul 28, 2014 12:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DekiDeki wrote:

The author says about Donetsk: “The city, with a pre-war population of nearly 1 million, has largely become a ghost town…”.

Where these residents went? One million people is too much to hide from the press! Or we get only selected informations about what is going on there?

Jul 28, 2014 1:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crod526 wrote:

Why is the leadership Russian and not Ukrainian? There lies your answer. This senseless loss of life could be easily over if Putin stopped sending arms and men to keep Ukraine unstable

Jul 28, 2014 1:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
willich6 wrote:

@malkavian; a cease fire would only allow the pro-russian rebels time to re-group and re-arm.. There would be no benefit to Ukraine and would end up costing them more cauualties.
Better to push hard at the moment while Russia is attempting to deal with the fall-out from the destruction of Malasia 17.

Putin will ultimately get what he wants out of this – Crimea..

Jul 28, 2014 1:05pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Yashmak wrote:

“Meanwhile the US again presents faked satellite images created by US counselors with close links to Ukraine’s Security Council to build a case of shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory.”

Nice to see the propaganda arm of the Russian Federation represented in the Reuters comments.

Jul 28, 2014 3:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

The Ukraine government and rebels are brainless wonders. This investigation will never, never be started or completed. I guess they both have something they want kept under wraps. Don’t send the rebels any help and slap some sanctions on Ukraine until they will allow the investigative teams to do their work without interference. This is a tremendous amount of disrespect for the victims and loved ones. As a US taxpayer, I don’t want one more red cent given to the Ukraine or rebels. They are surely the scum of the earth and this will come back to bite them–real hard!

Jul 28, 2014 3:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
MonitorLizard wrote:

AlkalineState–I’m with you. The Pro-Russians should be forced to move to Russia proper. They are not making things in Ukraine any better. They should be with the people they both love and admire the most.

Jul 28, 2014 3:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
branchltd wrote:

Russian shelling forces the Ukrainians to close with the Russian mercenaries. This forces a more intense and faster moving battle, as we are seeing. I don’t know who in Russia decided to use rocket artillery, probably some politician. However, the result is worse for the Russian mercenaries, not better.

Jul 28, 2014 3:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
branchltd wrote:

Russian shelling forces the Ukrainians to close with the Russian mercenaries. This forces a more intense and faster moving battle, as we are seeing. I don’t know who in Russia decided to use rocket artillery, probably some politician. However, the result is worse for the Russian mercenaries, not better.

Jul 28, 2014 3:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Reality2Day wrote:

The separatists/rebels/Russian mercenaries prevent investigation of MH17. The Ukrainian military should keep pressing their offensive and drive them back to where they came from (RUSSIA).

Jul 28, 2014 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
michael2014 wrote:

Will the leaders of U.S., Germany, Britain, France and Italy stop discussing, delaying…place those wider Russia sanctions in right now…if Putin keeps playing deaf & dumb….place ever wider sanctions every week…..

Jul 28, 2014 4:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
smirkingman wrote:

Is anyone so naïve to think that 300 dead is more than a trifle to Putin? To the West, possibly, to him nothing more than insignificant collateral damage. In the big picture, unfortunately, he’s right.

Jul 28, 2014 4:28pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlkalineState wrote:

Russia is slipping. They blow their credibility and their levarage in the world…. on this little dirty corner of nothing?

Jul 28, 2014 4:58pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Akira13 wrote:

What about the truce 40 Km around the crash site?? Any wonder why the site was safe for OSCE and Journalist on the same day and the followings of the accident under rebels control while unsafe today “thanks” to “peacefull” hand form Kiev?? What about UN resolution 2166???

Jul 28, 2014 5:32pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
pbgd wrote:

Putin’s original plan having failed, I suspect that he is trying to set up a “People’s Republic of Donezk” now. The local people can then be forced to have a plebiscitie like the Crimea, to “express their ardent desire” to become part of Putin’s empire.

Jul 28, 2014 6:03pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
majkmushrm wrote:

I keep waiting for Russia to bite back and respond to these sanctions. Block shipment of titanium or oust us from their Asian base that we’re using for shipments to Afghanistan or something….

Jul 28, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
YesNoMaybeSo wrote:

From article –>>> “Antyufeyev, who like most of the senior rebel leadership is an outsider from Russia”

Jul 28, 2014 6:20pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
riposte wrote:

Putin could care less about these pin prick sanctions.

Jul 28, 2014 6:31pm EDT  --  Report as abuse

The first North American settlers migrated from Siberia by way of the Bering land bridge approximately 15,000 or more years ago. (Wikipedia)

Conclusion : Original American Indians are actually Russians!

Jul 28, 2014 6:37pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AlexZ83 wrote:

@AlkalineState

That’s exactly what Milosevic told the Kosovo Albanians. You remember how that one ended right? Kosovo had less than 1 million population. These two regions of Ukraine have more than 8 million. Btw, I really “enjoy” your racists remarks on the Slavic peoples. You must be one of those “non-bigoted” liberals who support gay marriage.

Jul 28, 2014 6:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

pot, meet kettle.

Jul 28, 2014 6:52pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

why are the recordings from ukranian air traffic control which could shed some light on why the plane was diverted over a war zone and who knows what else? To date, Kiev has refused to acknowledge or explain why the plane was moved into position in this way. Moreover, Interfax news agency reported that Ukraine’s SBU security service confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew immediately after the incident.

I’m sure there’s nothing to learn here

Jul 28, 2014 6:59pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Rich_F wrote:

here’s a thoughtful article. the author poses some good questions i’d love to see answered.

http://www.theautomaticearth.com/debt-rattle-jul-28-2014-washington-thinks-americans-are-fools/

Jul 28, 2014 7:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
mrnukem wrote:

European countries in general won’t support tougher sanctions because of the way Russia is tightly bound into the economy in Europe as a whole, if they do they could end up hurting their own economies in the process along with that factor in the huge amount of natural gas Russia exports to countries like Germany who won’t risk having that supply shut off or prices raised to much higher levels, so they do these weak sanctions targeting high ranking individuals in the Russian government.

The best course of action the west can take is to fund supplies and arms to the Ukrainians like we did to countries fighting against communism during the cold war. Attrition drove Russia out of Afghanistan in 1989 and the same kind of covert tactics can do the same thing with this conflict.

Jul 28, 2014 7:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gantry wrote:

Idiots

Jul 28, 2014 9:04pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
leasir wrote:

@Nikolay_Korolev

There were no Russians 15,000 years ago in Siberia. Russians land-grabbed Siberia from the local north central asian peoples around 17th century.

Conclusion: Nikolay_Korolev does not know his Russian history.

Jul 28, 2014 9:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
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