New Medicaid enrollments top 7 million under Obamacare

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gcf1965 wrote:

So 1 in 5 people are mooching from the rest of us. And that doesnt count all those getting subsidies. Hopefully that ruling will be upheld and people will be forced to become responsible for themselves.

Aug 08, 2014 11:06am EDT  --  Report as abuse
njglea wrote:

Good Job, President Obama. Will the five male catholic corporate justices on the Supreme Court of the United States of America decide those from states that didn’t expand Medicaid will lose their benefits? Will the ALEC/Koch brothers republican/libertarian/tea party alienate even more Americans while they attempt to make them even poorer? Stupid is as stupid does as Forrest Gump says.

Aug 08, 2014 11:16am EDT  --  Report as abuse
MDean3 wrote:

The cost on the front end is far cheaper for taxpayers than caring for these people on the back end when they become chronically ill. If treatable conditions are managed then people can stay in the workforce longer and be productive rather than going on disability in their forties and fifties. Once that happens we are paying not only for their medical expenses but for their housing and food, as well.

Aug 08, 2014 11:18am EDT  --  Report as abuse
uc8tcme wrote:

@ gcf1965 – America is based on subsidies. This is no different than insurance companies charging higher rates to help cover the poor drivers on the roads or banks charging higher rates to cover for defaulted loans or mortgages. Except in healthcare, some early prevention health care screenings may decrease the uninsured people’s pain and suffering and lower the cost of more extensive treatments in the long-run. In the long-run, think of it more of an investment than a subsidy.

Aug 08, 2014 11:26am EDT  --  Report as abuse
UauS wrote:

Great! Hopefully, this will eventually evolve into a National One Payer system.

Aug 08, 2014 11:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
SaveRMiddle wrote:

[Open enrollment for private insurance ended in the spring. Medicaid enrollment remains open year round.]

? Why shut out private insurance seekers? Seems both groups should be handled the same.

Wow! The percentage of POOR Americans is really depressing and it’s far more than 66 million since many states aren’t participating.

Pathetic.

Aug 08, 2014 12:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jrj906202 wrote:

Must be tough to get people to accept something for free?Wonder if they know someone else is getting ripped off,so they can get theres.I think they don’t care.Walter Williams was right,We have become a nation of thieves.At least the majority.

Aug 08, 2014 12:21pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
jrj906202 wrote:

Is there any govt program that spends more than 50% of what it takes in?I doubt it.

Aug 08, 2014 12:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
paulk97 wrote:

It’s so sad the that the Dead Read and Purple leaning states who needed the Medicaid expansion the worse, had governors and legislatures who decided to opt out of the expansion. Not only does the opt out hurt the patients, it’s killing many small hospitals in my state of South Carolina, and I’m sure it’s hurting other states equally hard.

Aug 08, 2014 12:33pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SJmithB wrote:

The brain initiative and Obama Care are the great deceptions and two of the worst deceptions perpetrated on the citizens of the United States of America. State and Local law enforcement are implanting innocent citizens with a biochip. According to “A Note on Uberveillance” by MG & Katina Michael, it’s “like big brother on the inside looking out.” “Safeguards in a World of Ambient Intelligence” by Springer page 9 states, “law enforcement would have us believe that we can only be safe as long as they know where we are at all times, what we’re doing and what we are ‘thinking’”. It is such an invasion of privacy. They use the active denial system to make you think you are hearing voices – it has technology like the audio spotlight. Next they use Psyops like stalking, drugs, kidnapping, whatever they can to either 1) put you in a “crisis stabilization ward” or 2) a prison and steal your guns. They are targeting female Christians and military veterans. Go to Rutherford Institute and check out Brandon Raub. The plot to disarm and target veterans was revealed in his case. They take you to crisis stabilization wards even if you’re not a danger to yourself or others and show no sign of mental illness. Why? Because there is a Supreme Court Case by Justice Cardoza – Schloendorff v. Society of New York Hospital,105 N.E. 92 (1914 ) that says anyone of sound mind and not a criminal has a right to say what goes in their body or on their body. They want to ensure there is no way you can get this off. No one in America wants this level of privacy invasion. In addition, it allows law enforcement the opportunity to torture you at will with sleep deprivation, heart attacks and other pains. The active denial system can murder without leaving a mark! The Bio Initiative Report with 2014 additions details all the cancers, diseases and disabilities it causes. Hence, the need for Obama Care and to open all American’s medical records.

Aug 08, 2014 12:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
srsman wrote:

So 66 million are currently on Medicaid and another 5.7 million (a low # I think) would be on it with expansion in other states, totals about 72 million people in the US living in poverty. That roughly equates to 1 in 4 of our population. Welcome to the land of opportunity.

Aug 08, 2014 1:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rlm328 wrote:

The Federal Gov’t makes money only one way and that is through taxes. And when they want to spend more they raise the taxes, which leaves those of us who actually pay them being, not able to spend on what we want to. With the amount of money this administration has printed it is goiing to severly dilute our buying power in the coming years, which will further erode our purchasing power.

If you desire to live in a country with socialized medicine, there is all of europe to pick from just try to pick one that is not struggling trying to pay for their welfare state.

I for one liked the system we had. It was far from perfect but it was not so bad that it could not have been improved by tweaking it around the edges, yoou have people on this board wanting a single payer system but balk at insurance companies being able to sell across state lines.

The majority of the country is still against even if it is just a percent or two. We are tired of the gov’t telling us what is good or bad for us.

Aug 08, 2014 1:35pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

Looks like the rightie commentators have zero compassion for those that are less fortunate, yet still deserve some form of healthcare.

Not a surprise though.

Aug 08, 2014 1:44pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Speakerbliss wrote:

@unionwv, hmmmm those sites seem to be right-wing misinformation websites. There are plenty of doctors to treat the poor under Medicaid and schools will begin shifting doctors back to primary care. Personally I think we should fund doctors education cost and then require 6-10 years of public health service.

Aug 08, 2014 2:22pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Speakerbliss wrote:

@GRC1965 ah, the thoughts of a caring right winger, let the poor die and the problem is solved is basically what you are saying. What about all those children, people in poor health who cannot work? Just how do they suppose to be responsible for themselves?

Aug 08, 2014 2:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
boozecans wrote:

Because Medicaid is free.

Aug 08, 2014 2:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rlm328 wrote:

@speakerbliss
versus your left wing disinformation sources?

Aug 08, 2014 3:57pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
gcf1965 wrote:

Speakerbliss, the problem with you and others like you, is that you use the relatively few and definite minority of people who actually are truly needy to defend the people who have learned to game the system, who are career takers and who have no problem taking all they can instead of working. I am absolutely compassionate toward the needy, the elderly and the truly unfortunate, but I have ZERO compassion or concern for those thieves who have become chronic and career takers. One only need to be in any social services office for a short time to see that most are young, healthy (aside from the usual obesity epidemic), capable people who are far more content to take their handout and supplement with criminal activities or the occassional under the table job. I am saying that society should not have to pay for the poor choices and dishonesty of those who have no conscience.

Aug 08, 2014 4:01pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Speakerbliss wrote:

@rim328, why is it people automatically label someone who is not in agreement with the far right members of the Republican Party and Tea Party a liberal? Somehow you guys like gcF1965 and unionwv think your are main street Americans and guess what – you are considered a small right wing fringe group.

Aug 08, 2014 5:11pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Robocop5626 wrote:

well if we’re going to provide their healthcare in order to minimize our future expenses, the least they can do is agree to government monitoring of their exercise habits, dietary intake and assure there is no smoking or drinking or drug usage since it’s on our dime now. If you want free choice, pay your own way.

Aug 08, 2014 5:49pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
ruggerfool wrote:

Wow 12-15 million were eligible for Medicaid before Bumblecare was passed, they managed to get approximately half enrolled for 2 trillion dollars. Success!

Aug 08, 2014 6:26pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
auger wrote:

Don’t overlook the obvious. Not signing up, while remaining uninsured is an offense that will demand a prescribed fine (dis-information from the right has some believing it’s already in the thousands of dollars, although it’s under $100). Many signed up simply to avoid getting a bill for the penalty.

Aug 08, 2014 6:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: Don’t make generalizations based on your “impressions”. Base your statements on verifiable facts. Furthermore, people like you who attack the Affordable Care Act never offer a better alternative, which has been the problem in this country for decades. Finally, we have a President who cares enough to do something about it, and because of his efforts 7.2 million more Americans have healthcare coverage through Medicaid and 8 million more have healthcare coverage through private insurance plans via the online marketplaces.

Aug 08, 2014 6:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: That makes a total of 15.2 million more Americans having healthcare coverage thanks to our President’s efforts, and the Democrats in Congress. The Republicans contributed nothing. Worse than that, they tried to stop it without offering a better solution. State governments run by Republicans have taken steps to block poor citizens of their states from benefiting from the Medicaid expansion. Americans will die because of their actions. Republicans just don’t care about the people of this country.

Aug 08, 2014 6:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rawbitz wrote:

gcf1965, fair enough.

I’m curious though. How would you bring health care to “the relatively few and definite minority of people who actually are truly needy”? Along the way, can you help me out with what you mean by “truly needy”?

Thanks.

Aug 08, 2014 7:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: Reuters’ censorship won’t let me challenge your assertions. Let me just try saying that 15.2 million more Americans having healthcare coverage is fantastic, and unless you or the Republicans have a better idea, you should be happy. (Hope that’s simple enough for Reuters.)

Aug 08, 2014 7:47pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: Don’t make generalizations based on your “impressions”. Base your statements on verifiable facts. Furthermore, people like you who attack the Affordable Care Act never offer a better alternative, which has been the problem in this country for decades.

Aug 08, 2014 11:15pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1955: Finally, we have a President who cares enough to do something about it, and because of his efforts 7.2 million more Americans have healthcare coverage through Medicaid and 8 million more have healthcare coverage through private insurance plans via the online marketplaces.

Aug 08, 2014 11:16pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: gcf1965: That makes a total of 15.2 million more Americans having healthcare coverage thanks to our President’s efforts, and the Democrats in Congress. The Republicans contributed nothing. Worse than that, they tried to stop it without offering a better solution.

Aug 08, 2014 11:17pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

gcf1965: State governments run by Republicans have taken steps to block poor citizens of their states from benefiting from the Medicaid expansion. Americans will die because of their actions. Republicans just don’t care about the people of this country.

Aug 08, 2014 11:18pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

“…Unfortunately, There are going to be fewer and fewer doctors treating Medicaid and Obamacare patients, at the “front end” or anytime”

RESPONSE:
Would you care to explain what you think an “Obamacare patient” is?
Individuals and businesses who use the Federal and State exchanges to shop for and purchase their healthcare insurance are enrolled in policies provided by the same insurance industry companies which provide policies to those who elect not to use the exchanges.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is not government healthcare. It’s a set of insurance industry Federal mandates, which apply to ALL policies, to prohibit the healthcare industry from continuing abusive practices, and its a set of mandates in ALL policies for preventive care (i.e., patient wellness care) to help people avoid getting sick.

Aug 08, 2014 11:30pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
crod526 wrote:

Yes all of those complaining about having to subsidize the poor on Medicaid don’t realize that you have already been subsidizing them at a HIGHER cost when they would show up uninsured state your local hospital.
Plus with all the fear of Ebola and other transferable diseases why would you want to have a large number of your population not having health coverage and not getting treated until it’s too late.

Aug 09, 2014 9:14am EDT  --  Report as abuse
unionwv wrote:

REnnings: The post you refer to has been removed.

Somebody has been pushing the “abuse” buttons on my posts and a Reuters staffer has obligingly removed them. Sorry.

Aug 09, 2014 9:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
mstan4408 wrote:

America takes care of their poor, needy and elderly. Unlike some other cultures that go by a religion that proclaims they are suppose too.

Aug 09, 2014 9:51am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Trichiurus wrote:

Wait until we get the bill…

Aug 09, 2014 10:07am EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

mstan4408: Most cultures DO take care of their poor, needy and elderly. The US is the only developed country that has a significant portion of its population (conservatives who are opposed to it. The usual line is that they’re for helping the needy but opposed to abuse. But everyone agrees with that. But their positions of just wanting to cut, cut, cut any programs that help the needy betokens their real agenda.

Aug 09, 2014 11:19am EDT  --  Report as abuse
carnivalchaos wrote:

Trichiurus: What people like you just can’t seem to grasp is that we’ve BEEN getting the bill. People go to emergency rooms and we pay the bill. It’s just much less efficient, and more expensive. The ACA is more efficient and humane. The US is the ONLY developed country that doesn’t accept the premise that all people need access to affordable healthcare, thanks to our conservatives. (mstan4408: note Trichiurus’s position.)

Aug 09, 2014 11:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
billland wrote:

I get a kick out of those screaming about subsidies who receive health benefits that are not considered income while the employers expense the premium, at least say thanks to the taxpayers for your federal subsidies folks.

Aug 09, 2014 11:47am EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

“…at least say thanks to the taxpayers for your federal subsidies folks.”

RESPONSE:
Americans who receive tax subsidies are “taxpayers” too. The subsidies, to assist these taxpayers to purchase private healthcare insurance are effectively receiving a tax credit which is advanced to the private insurance companies to offset a portion of those American’s expense of their healthcare insurance premiums.

Why is this necessary? It is necessary because lower income and middle-class American’s wages have not kept pace with inflation since 1980, as annual healthcare premium costs have exceeded the rate of inflation. And as a result, Healthcare insurance has been priced out of the household budgets of more than 50 million Americans.

If you are going to criticize, and negatively portray fellow citizens who receive tax subsidies, credits and deductions, why not begin by directing your disapproval at those American citizens who are receiving by far the largest proportion of tax subsidies, credits and deductions, and who are consequently having the greatest deficit impact on the US tax base; … the wealthy.

Aug 09, 2014 11:27pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
REnninga wrote:

“….. http://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2014/07/28/oregon-shows-whats-wrong-with-medicaid-expansion-says-healthcare-analyst#.U-T7-bl0zcs …..”

RESPONSE:
The “news” source you cite / posted above is “OneNewsNow.” OneNewsNow is part of the American Family News Network (AFN), an offshoot of the American Family Association (AFA) founded by fundamentalist Christian-right conservative Donald Wildmon, and now headed by his son. AFN is dedicated to purveying “Your Latest News From A Christian Perspective.” AFA has been listed as a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the “propagation of known falsehoods” and the use of “demonizing propaganda” against LGBT people. The AFA has boycotted companies for various reasons, most often relating to Christmas controversies, support of pro-choice activism, and support of LGBT rights, including same-sex partner employee benefits. The organizations boycotted by AFA include: 7-Eleven, Abercrombie & Fitch, American Airlines, American Girl, Blockbuster Video, Burger King, Calvin Klein, Carl’s Jr., Clorox, Comcast, Crest, Ford, Hallmark Cards, Hardee’s, Kmart, Kraft Foods, S. C. Johnson & Son, Movie Gallery, Microsoft, MTV, Paramount Pictures, Time Warner, Universal Studios, DreamWorks, Mary Kay, NutriSystem, Old Navy, IKEA, Sears, Pampers, Procter & Gamble, Target, Tide, Walt Disney Company, and PepsiCo.

You might want to try to be a little more discriminating in your sources for what you maintain are “facts”, if you wish to be persuasive in your arguments and wish to be taken seriously.

Aug 09, 2014 11:46pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Bdy2010 wrote:

@USApragmatist

You seem to have forgotten the role of government that was established in this country. Government’s role is not to care for its citizens every need; it is to ensure life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Aug 10, 2014 8:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
4825 wrote:

@Renninga- Perhaps it would serve you well to read the article

“The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes”.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101264757

It indicates your statement that “Americans that receive tax subsidies are “taxpayers” too” is wrong. But why let facts get in the way of pushing your liberal agenda. It has not stopped you in the past.

Aug 10, 2014 8:30am EDT  --  Report as abuse
4825 wrote:

Reuters, why don’t you take time to fix your comments section so your loyal readers can comment on your articles and other comments? I will not say that you are biased or that you are picking on one group verses another because I have seen posts from all sides complaining about the lack of ability to get their post through. You offer a good news service but your inability to fix this problem will cost you some readers in the longterm if you do not fix this problem. If leads to your customers feeling like you are censoring them, even when that is not your intention.

Aug 10, 2014 5:24pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
lottopol wrote:

For 75 years, it was said that Roosevelt’s New Deal saved capitalism. By softening the rough edges of the free market capitalism with reforms such as social security and unemployment insurance, FDR may have prevented adoption of much more radical changes.

75 years from today it is unlikely that anyone will think Obama saved market-priced medical care. Rather, he only prolonged it, and that will not be thought of as a good thing. In the developed world, market-priced medical care still exists only in the USA. It is only a matter of time until market-priced medical care joins communism, slavery, racial segregation and fascism as systems that no longer exist in developed nations.

The USA is the last holdout with market-priced medical care not because of any inherent conservative or free market ideology. Rather, as the wealthiest nation that ever existed we are the last ones who can afford it. Switzerland was one of the last advanced economies to abandon market-priced medical care. It is arguably a greater bastion of conservatism than the USA. Switzerland’s women were not granted the right to vote until 1971.

During the debate as to whether Switzerland would abandon market-priced medical care there was considerable concern about how it would affect the major Swiss pharmaceutical giants such as Hoffmann-La Roche (RHHBY) and Novartis (NVS) which was Sandoz prior to the merger with Ciba in 1996. However, it was then realized that the Swiss pharmaceutical giants made much of their profits in the American market.

The reason that no nation, including the wealthiest can allow markets to set the prices of medical care indefinitely is that demand for medical care is inelastic. Demand for a good or service is inelastic if a percentage increase in price results in a smaller percentage decrease in the quantity demanded. Basic economics tells us that sellers facing inelastic demand will continuously raise prices until prices reach the elastic portion of the demand curve. Consequently in every developed country in the world, all goods or services with inelastic demand have their prices regulated by government. Medical care in the USA being the only exception…”
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1647632

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