Immigration could set stage for big U.S. budget showdown

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TAZTlh wrote:

Didn’t they learn their lesson last year? It is called shooting yourself in the foot.

Aug 27, 2014 3:53pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
DBMan wrote:

Go ahead and shut the government down, you bozos. I dare you.

Aug 27, 2014 3:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

TAZTlh wrote:
‘Didn’t they learn their lesson last year?’

Nope. The Koch/TP con ideologues never learn anything. it’s their trademark. They went ahead with their shutdown of OUR government even though the vast majority of us Americans opposed that. they didn’t care, and went on with what the Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist told them to do. Vote anti-R, for your own good.

Aug 27, 2014 4:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
BeRealistic wrote:

Will we see another DNC sponsored shutdown due to their “my way or the highway” approach to governing? Since they have the media bought and paid for, the left is pretty much able to carry out any destructive action they want and then blame it on the right without anyone so much as asking a question.

Aug 27, 2014 4:39pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

The GOP/TP extremists are so predictable; before, they linked defunding the ACA with everything. Now it’s immigration. What a bunch of fools. Nothing constructive from them at all and they only try to sabotage our economy.

Aug 27, 2014 4:41pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

last thing party [GOP/TP] leaders and many rank-and-file members want is to raise the possibility of a government shutdown – something voters do not tolerate.’

oh, please, … make it so. The DNC will be able to phone in the next campaigns.

Aug 27, 2014 4:50pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Calpin wrote:

Immigration is described by the reporter as antiquated and unworkable; to me that sounds like more of an opinion than a fact. I hope Republicans do use the power of the purse to check Obama’s plan to do a mass amnesty or anything similar. The power of the purse is a constitutional right and responsibility Congress has at its disposal, and is so much more meaningful and powerful than a lawsuit that will go nowhere. As far as the American people not tolerating a government shutdown, that may or may not be true. Republicans were stung in 1998 by a shutdown that had to do with very unpopular cuts to Medicare that they wanted to push through. They misjudged Clinton at the time. This is something very different. Here Obama wants to cater to some liberal special interest groups by pushing through some dubious orders that look and act like a mass amnesty.

Aug 27, 2014 4:54pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
rlm328 wrote:

They don’t have to do anything this year, just pass a short term bill to get them through the middle of January. Then it will be obama’s veto that shuts down the gov’t not the Republican controlled congress. Just remember it was Reid who instituted the 50% + 1 majority rule in the senate.

So when all these laws start coming down the pike remember it was the dems who initiated it.

Aug 27, 2014 4:55pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
wata3001 wrote:

Shut it down and keep it shut down. It would be one of the best things to happen to this country in a long time.
As far as the illegals: Toss them every one right back out into the Mexican desert and let Mexico and the Mexicans deal with them. They’ll know how.

Aug 27, 2014 5:02pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Republican Representative Steve King saying at a meeting of conservative Republicans. ‘If the president wields his pen and commits that unconstitutional act…’

And, What, exactly is ‘unconstitutional’ about what President Obama will do? The GOP/TP cons sure like to throw that ‘un’ word around a lot but I want to know WHAT is Unconstitutional about it. I’ve read the Constitution many times and I’m thinking Steve King never has.

Aug 27, 2014 5:38pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Randy549 wrote:

I think shutting down the government prior to the 2014 elections would be a huge mistake for the Republicans. Much better to fund the government with a stopgap measure this fall, THEN use the power of the purse after Republicans take over the Senate starting in January 2015.

Aug 27, 2014 5:56pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Last time 74% of us were against the GOP/TP shutdown and those extreme ideologues did it anyway.
btw; I’ll bet people at the DNC are saying, ‘Oh please! make it so!’

Aug 27, 2014 6:06pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

The last Republican shutdown cost OUR economy over 24 BILLION Dollars. I wonder how much this one is going to cost US?

Aug 27, 2014 6:07pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

‘Randy549 wrote:
I think shutting down the government prior to the 2014 elections would be a huge mistake’

Me too. But they’ll do it anyway like they did last time. It cost us Over 24 billion dollars then. People remember that.

Aug 27, 2014 6:10pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Just more ‘Our way or we burn down the country’ thing from the GOP/TP

Aug 27, 2014 7:25pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
cheeze wrote:

It’s wonderful to give in to immigration, but the million dollar question is? “Who does the president expect is going to pay for all these people”? The social rolls are already exploding. We don’t need more people taking from them. Shame on you Mr. President.

Aug 27, 2014 7:29pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Randy549 wrote:
I think shutting down the government prior to the 2014 elections would be a huge mistake’

You are correct. that was the case last time the GOP/TP shut down our government and cost us 24 billion+. but, if history is any guide at all, they’ll do it again. True extreme ideologues just don’t care.

Aug 27, 2014 7:36pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
SunnyDaySam wrote:

Looks like some people on this thread never studied American History, so I’ll give you this for free. It’s the inscription on the base of the Statue of Liberty:

‘Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.’

Aug 27, 2014 7:40pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
AZreb wrote:

SunnyDaySam – it is now “yearning for the freebies”.

Aug 28, 2014 7:48am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ineeditbad wrote:

GOD…What is Wrong With this Country???I have Never Experienced things so badly over the past 6 years…Deport Them All, Get the Money back to the People, Not The Corporations, because they are Killing this Economy. Corporations get away with crimes all the time. WE are Stuck with having to look for Jobs from them, they know it. “Too Big to Fail” to big for a simple person to fight them, unless of course you have the Money for Attorney’s and Court Costs…over Years…

Aug 28, 2014 9:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
GetToTheTruth wrote:

The right wing Tea Party ideologues and their Republican allies in congress have basically kept the legislative process in Washington in gridlock for the last four years simply because they refuse to cooperate or compromise on legislation.

While at the same time they threaten to shut down the government by withholding authorization for funding of government operations because their ideological mindset dictates they will not cooperate or compromise on legislation, but will instead keep the U.S. Congress in gridlock.

Aug 28, 2014 9:39am EDT  --  Report as abuse
astroz wrote:

If his Majesty thinks that one man can create the laws for over 300 million citizens by over riding our democratic process (as outlined in our Constitution), he needs the continual reminding by outraged citizens that it won’t be easy. It is crucial for citizens to continue to express their outrage at the dictators self serving immigration plans that destroy our employment, wages, environment, schools, hospitals, laws and democracy. Don’t let up America….get loud weekly. One call reaches them all…202 224-3121 reaches all members of the Senate and House. Keep it in your cell and call often. A hundred gripes don’t equal one phone call. Only action matters. Get cracking my friends!!

Aug 28, 2014 9:46am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PCCorruption wrote:

SunnyDaySam —- Of the 21 comments so far, you have 10 of them. We have immigration laws so we are not overcome by the amount of people wanting to come here. We should be following those laws and returning and/or deporting all who enter illegally until immigration laws are changed. It’s not hard to understand that if you want to come to the USA, do it legally. Giving illegals sanctuary cities, drivers licenses and government handouts is harboring illegal aliens. It’s illegal and this administration is doing nothing about it. Please don’t start with Obama has deported more….blah blah. While Obama deports, Pelosi opens up her sanctuary city and gives away billions to illegals.

Aug 28, 2014 9:53am EDT  --  Report as abuse
ineeditbad wrote:

GetToTheTruth:

Well Said and sad but true…This Country is so far gone, I’m feeling it everyday…

Aug 28, 2014 10:03am EDT  --  Report as abuse
JamesChirico wrote:

A congress that works well for we the people is one with give and take compromise. The GOP is hell bent by governance under threat. Sen. McConnell at a GOP meeting told the audience if we win the Senate we will not pass funding bills unless EPA and Obamacare are not funded. The president has the veto pen ready, we the people should send the GOP a message this Nov. The party of no and threats get a no from we the people.

Aug 28, 2014 10:23am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Adam_S wrote:

LOL. I mean really. It went over so well last time. Everyone can complain about illegal immigrants until their voices are gone, it makes no difference. If the GOP does this again, they will lose, and they will look bad. Again.

Albert Einstein had a great definition of insanity.

Aug 28, 2014 10:27am EDT  --  Report as abuse
The_Traveler wrote:

Seem to me that the Republican party has simply adopted a “politicized” version of the ISIS “convert or die” methodology. The radical right GOP will have it “our way or the highway” effectively decapitating America in the process.

Aug 28, 2014 10:43am EDT  --  Report as abuse
Adam_S wrote:

One time, Albert Einstein gave a great definition of insanity.

Aug 28, 2014 11:25am EDT  --  Report as abuse
PopUp wrote:

Giving green cards to immigrants so they can work and have identity information on file is a good thing. How do we know who that are without that information?

Aug 28, 2014 11:54am EDT  --  Report as abuse
hometown wrote:

To all the illegal loving liberals (ill people): I might be able to live with my state of Texas having to fund the national guard to protect a U.S. borders, since Obama and Holder refuse to, but what I can’t live with is their ICE organization allowing these illegals to board our commercial planes without photo I.D.s, just a photocopied “notice to appear” form, which any terrorist or cartel gang member can easily steal and copy….while you and I have to present photo I.D. These two “leaders” in charge of our security have more interest in protecting the illegals than you and me. It’s an upside down security system.

Aug 28, 2014 3:19pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
Galactus999 wrote:

President Obama is a bad man who cares only about special interest groups and not about the American people. We want all our immigration laws enforced and ALL illegal aliens deported. DACA and any expansion of it will just encourage more illegal immigration. Call the White House and complain. We need to jam the switchboards.

Aug 28, 2014 8:45pm EDT  --  Report as abuse
davidfarrar wrote:

Again, the House Republicans did not shut down the government last time. I know you guys need to believe this, but the Senate had at lest ten funding bills waiting for Sen Reid to bring to the floor to take a vote on them…he refused, and Obama shut down the government of sorts.

ex animo
davidfarrar

Sep 03, 2014 10:33am EDT  --  Report as abuse
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