Russia says doubts legitimacy of current Ukrainian authorities

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skoorbekim wrote:

Olympics are over…

Feb 24, 2014 7:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
skoorbekim wrote:

Olympics are over…

Feb 24, 2014 7:51am EST  --  Report as abuse
RichInSTL wrote:

Of course he would express grave doubts. It’s not controlled by Russia, Putin and the unrepentant communists who rule there.

Feb 24, 2014 7:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
daedilus wrote:

The USA ‘warning’ Russia on troops in Ukraine is laughable.

Any time a regions threatens to move to an Eastern alliance in the US sphere of influence, the USA immediately responds with troops.

(Cuba, Grenada, Nicaragua)… Not to mention outside our sphere of influence (Israel,Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc, etc, etc…)

Russia should rightly ignore this ‘warning’ and do what it finds to be in its interests.

Feb 24, 2014 8:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
Boats wrote:

“We are concerned they may try to think for themselves without Russian..guidance”

Feb 24, 2014 8:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
stringed wrote:

Ukraine is not a Russian subject, Daedilus! Have you checked into events in the past 20 years? What might it take to convince you this is Ukraine’s decision — not Russia’s.

Feb 24, 2014 8:26am EST  --  Report as abuse

US & EU ARE PAYING UKRAINIAN RIOTERS & PROTESTERS
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/17/us-eu-paying-ukrainian-rioters-protesters-paul-craig-roberts/

THE TRUTH BEHIND THE KIEV UPRISING. U.S. FUNDED REGIME CHANGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2eC7Yv7ENY

THE UKRAINIAN OPPOSITION IS LED BY CIA AND SOROS, A US-EU-NATO ALLIANCE
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=300268

AMERICA’S OVERT ACTIONS DESTABILIZING UKRAINE AS NEVER BEFORE
http://xrepublic.tv/node/7542

Feb 24, 2014 8:33am EST  --  Report as abuse

ISRAELI EX-OFFICER LEADING UKRAINE PROTESTS
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/02/16/350986/israel-exofficer-leads-ukraine-unrest/

CIA AGENT CAPTURED IN UKRAINE “HELPING” UKRANIAN PROTESTERS – Video
http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/02/cia-agent-captured-in-ukraine-helping-ukranian-protesters-video-here-2450486.html

Feb 24, 2014 8:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
Timbus wrote:

European Union stated that Yanukovich was democratically elected and the elections were verified by the European Union and the USA as being valid. If European Union agrees that Yanukovich was democracy elected why does the EU support a violent overthrow of a legitimately elected government in the Ukraine.

Cameron in Unites Kingdom opposes UK joining the European Union, but supports those in Ukrainian who want to join the EU. Why does UK, USA, Canada and EU support those who used violence to overthrow a democratically elected government that did not want to Join the European Union.

Anti-protest laws were actually a lot milder under Yanukovich than the equivalent laws in the United Kingdom, the Patriot Act in USA and anti terrorism legislation in Canada and EU. The action (killing police officers, firebombing buildings, using guns and Molotov cocktails, destroying monuments and property wearing balaclavas) by the Anti government elements in the Ukraine would have been broken up by the police in EU, Canada, UK and USA long time ago. Under anti terrorism legislation in UK, USA and Canada the violent acts such as those committed by the Anti Yanukovich forces would have resulted in much harsher penalties in some cases life in prison or even a death sentence.

Feb 24, 2014 8:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
krusatyr wrote:

The Cartoon Caligula in the WH will have no bearing on whatever Putin selects as the most advantageous or practical response to Ukraine.

Putin may send the derelict to give Assad another lap dance while he prepares to foment a pro Russian anti-coup coup in Crimea, perhaps using them as surrogates for an East vs Weat Ukrainian civil war, then step into the fracas s a humanitarian mission.

Feb 24, 2014 8:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
RichInSTL wrote:

Of course it does. It the Ukraine government isn’t in compliance with the Putin and the Russian government, then by definition in their mind it isn’t legitimate.

Feb 24, 2014 9:07am EST  --  Report as abuse

So right about now, Putin has asked Medvedev to jump in and say some thing because he knows his name, by association, will deplete his strategy to ‘take over’ before it can begin. So Vladimir is thinking “gradient segue” and let his mouth-piece lay some groundwork.

The Russian strategy will basically be “build a case about how Russian people are absolutely, positively, undeniably going to be severely affected by a continuation of Ukraine troubles… so Russia MUST step in to resolve it now matter what anyone else thinks.”

Just wait. It’s coming. Vladimir is not going to give up on this.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama is like a little girl waving a baton on the sideline. Not really participating in what’s happening on the field but wanting to hang out at the party afterwards.

Barack will draw more lines in the sand and paint some of them with a nice red water color. That will be that that.

Feb 24, 2014 9:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
daedilus wrote:

@ Stringed:

And Cuba, Grenada, Nicaragua, Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc, etc, etc… are not American subjects.

What’s your point?

The strong always interfere with the weak, my point is pointing out the hypocrisy of president 0meddle having the audacity to warn Russia about meddling.

Feb 24, 2014 9:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
salb444 wrote:

Remember, that little country, Georgia? same thing gonna happen here.
i hope this time we get our military items back. when russia invaded georgia they kept American military items they confiscated.

Feb 24, 2014 9:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
salb444 wrote:

USApatriotsWIN ; you hit the nail directly and center on the head….good shot

Feb 24, 2014 9:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
Oma wrote:

The comments here remind me of people discussing a sports event — how it is being played, how it ought to be played. But this is no game; every part of people’s lives are affected, not just their egos triumphing or suffering because of who played well and who won or lost.

How about imagining the situation in terms of two people dancing? Then the discussion would be about how they could move better together, or at least avoid tripping over each others feet. The advantage of thinking that way would be that we would be talking about building things that people need rather than ways of harming each other.

We all saw pictures of the villa Yanukovich built himself over the past few years, that no one could even see while he was in the country. Those resources belonged to the Ukrainian people; whatever was built with them should have been something all the people needed. When politicians steal so much there will always be scarcity and it will always be impossible to get anything done in an honest, efficient transparent manner. That is true for EVERY country. Whoever cares about Ukraine (or any place else, for that matter) must pay close attention to exactly HOW things are being done, we must call attention to all fraud and corruption. In doing that we will be doing some good. Rooting for the east or west to prevail, projecting strategies they might use only encourages more of the same. I, for one, have had enough.

Feb 24, 2014 9:45am EST  --  Report as abuse
sarkozyrocks wrote:

@stringed: It’s much more complex than your comment, and I’ll give you the benefit of knowing that…these are just short comments. The Western Ukrainians who just took over DO NOT represent the vast majority of Eastern Ukrainians, who control the businesses, etc…that drive the Ukraine economy. The power is in the East, and the West just took over. It’s very hard to see how this will work out positively unless Ukraine is divided into two states…one poor Western one / failed state that receives massive assistance from the EU??, and one economically sound? one in the East, strongly tied to Russia. The US may go through this one day. Let the people decide, then adjust political boundaries and protect minorities as best you can. It’s a very difficult situation made even more difficult by history: Kiev is the heart of ethnic Russia.

Feb 24, 2014 10:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
nyse777 wrote:

There is NOT a Clear and Present Danger to Russia today, freedom is the only threat. That and the EU Alliance that will follow.
Go back to Hibernation.

Feb 24, 2014 10:12am EST  --  Report as abuse
Timbus wrote:

I poste a very legitimate comment here about the double standard of our side and you did not post it. USA, Canada and UK as well EU have some tough anti terrorism laws, much more draconian than under Yanukovich. Killing police officers, destroying property, using gasoline bombs would lead to a death penalty in US and life in prison in Canada, UK and many EU countries.

EU supervised elections where Yanukovich won proclaiming them democratic and fair so why do we support a anti democratic insurrection.

UK does not want to join the EU while they are pushing for EU status in Ukraine. A dermocratically elected president has the right to decide this decision not us.

Feb 24, 2014 10:22am EST  --  Report as abuse
AlfNeuman wrote:

The Ukrainian Parliament violated it’s own Constitution by impeaching a President without first appointing a Special Prosecutor to bring charges and have them approved reviewed by the Ukrainian Supreme Court. What happened last week was mob rule.

Feb 24, 2014 10:23am EST  --  Report as abuse
SKYDRIFTER wrote:

Sounds as though Ukraine may soon have a critical energy shortage. Putin has his methods to get peoples’ undivided attention. Closing fuel valves is on that list.

Ukraine is essentially dead broke. The EU can’t decide and act fast enough to help. That pretty well gives Putin more power than a huge military force. What is it that Obama wants? Putin already regards Obama (and the USA) as a distasteful joke. The EU doesn’t even think much of Obama; especially after that intercepted diplomatic phone call.

The Ukraine victory party is far from over; now they have some major bills to pay – to Russia. Russia may own (regain) some sea ports, before this deal is done. Putin loves to take trophys.

And, what is now left for the victorious Ukraine opposition? Protesting the imminent cold and the dark? Hey, they won; but it’s not particularly clear what their prize is going to be. Form a new “government;” consisting of whom? Does the blond chick have enough friends – who are likely to be trusted? New elections? That might get interesting.

If the Ukraine military can’t be paid, Russia may look like a pretty good outfit to work for. Putin could pay them to stay home – to great effect.

Just think. If Viktor Yanukovich is to be charged with mass murder, where does that leave the associated military leaders? In the weeks ahead, are they fool enough to keep a “different” peace – unsure of who is going to get charged with what, by whom; and when?

Wattamess!

Feb 24, 2014 10:39am EST  --  Report as abuse
QuidProQuo wrote:

Well, Russia is under no obligation to recognize the newly formed loosely organized opposition government of Ukraine. Nor is Russia under any obligation to provide aid under any previously negotiated arrangements with the then sitting President.
The whole way the opposition went about making their case against not wanting to be tied to Russia is good enough reason for Russia to just avoid getting into any new deals with Kiev until well after the new elections. I personally would not hold much validity in Kiev’s governing system until they have proven their merit. They can run to the IMF for aid and all the slam down rules that goes with receiving bailout money. Sure hope their pension systems are fully funded so there won’t be any need for drastic cuts in payments down the road.

Feb 24, 2014 10:48am EST  --  Report as abuse
jimtwans wrote:

And the Russians know something about graves.

Feb 24, 2014 10:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
DutchRig wrote:

I may not like it, but my money is on Putin for this one.

Feb 24, 2014 10:58am EST  --  Report as abuse
mitchie124 wrote:

The fix is in. This was just another Rothschild funded uprising to force another country to join their EU, and conscript their people to perpetual debt slavery!

Feb 24, 2014 11:00am EST  --  Report as abuse
bigfootdown wrote:

troll central

Feb 24, 2014 11:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

We should be more worried about the legitimacy of the Ovomit administrative organ. Judging from the massive stockpiling of ammunition by the Feds they plan on murdering the American taxpayers en masse if they every stage a peaceful revolt.

Feb 24, 2014 11:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
KenMan67 wrote:

@stringed: Stalin made Ukraine a Russian subject when he injected Soviet loyalists into the eastern portion of the country and forced the citizens to accept their control, or die. Russia is still the same as it ever was. They still want control and influence over the region.

Russian troops are already on alert and probably prepped to invade Ukraine in the name of “Regional Stability” to show they still have/want to hold onto the region.

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ovomit is weak and is at the helm of a rudderless ship of fools. He’s in no position politically to even allow,the mouth of Sauron to warn other nations..

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ovomit is weak and is at the helm of a rudderless ship of fools. He’s in no position politically to even allow,the mouth of Sauron to warn other nations..

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ovomit is weak and is at the helm of a rudderless ship of fools. He’s in no position politically to even allow,the mouth of Sauron to warn other nations..

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ovomit is weak and is at the helm of a rudderless ship of fools. He’s in no position politically to even allow,the mouth of Sauron to warn other nations..

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ovomit is weak and is at the helm of a rudderless ship of fools. He’s in no position politically to even allow,the mouth of Sauron to warn other nations..

Feb 24, 2014 11:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
steve12321 wrote:

I’ll agree that the new Ukraine government is not in Russia’s “best interests”. LOL The Russian empire exists only by treating its people like dirt, looting those it’s conquered and maintaining a peasant-level lifestyle outside the cities. You’d think Putin would have enough to worry about without trying to get Ukraine back in the Russian “Federation”.

Feb 24, 2014 11:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
4ever49 wrote:

Does anyone think Putin is concerned that the ability of citizens to change their government may spread eastward into Russia?

Feb 24, 2014 11:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
Pod wrote:

Who thinks Barry Hussein Soetero will stand up to Vladamir Putin?

Feb 24, 2014 12:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Pod wrote:

Who thinks Barry Hussein Soetero will stand up to Vladamir Putin?

Feb 24, 2014 12:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Oma wrote:

Citizens and foreign concerned parties should be concerned about honesty and transparency in the current Ukrainian government. We can keep them honest better than the IMF.

For example, according to interfax.com the parliament has voted to spend $200,000,000 on a presidential poll. (interfax.com at 20:11 today, February 24) How can anyone spend $200,000,000 on a poll?
Does nobody have telephones and poll workers will have to travel on foot and horseback to reach the people?

Interfax.com should publish more like this, and the Ukranian parliament should account for itself.

Feb 24, 2014 12:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Ive been completely censored, so much for freedom of speech in rothschilds butt boy nation ie. England

Feb 24, 2014 12:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
glutamine.sr wrote:

Reuters is a racist and bigoted dare I say fascist pile of jew excrement

Feb 24, 2014 12:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse
drktampa wrote:

Oh well…I have “grave concerns” about the present Russian leadership.

Feb 24, 2014 12:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
westernshame wrote:

mitchie124 wrote:

“The fix is in. This was just another Rothschild funded uprising to force another country to join their EU, and conscript their people to perpetual debt slavery!”

sadly this is closer to the truth.

Russia is right to question the legitimacy, everyone should be.

Feb 24, 2014 12:44pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SaveTheFleas wrote:

Don’t worry… Obama is going to keep options on the table.

Feb 24, 2014 1:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wonderinghow wrote:

What’s the matter Putty? Not communist enough for you?

Feb 24, 2014 1:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Reuterszzz wrote:

Good Lord, doesn’t anyone see what is about to happen? A Russian invasion of Ukraine. Who’s going to stop them, us? With this lox as President? Dream on. I hope the Ukrainians are as tough as the Afghans were in the 80s!

Feb 24, 2014 1:36pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Right... wrote:

The will of the Ukrainian people has been heard. Good riddance to Russia.

Feb 24, 2014 1:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
montananext wrote:

The Russians would march troops into the Ukraine if they thought they could get away with it. They still might try to occupy the eastern half of the country and blockade the Ukraine’s Black Sea ports with it own Russian Black Sea navy.Putin’s dream of a new Russian empire will fall if he doesn’t bring the Ukraine into the Russian “fold.” The Russians are like the Serbs – GIVE ME MY EMPIRE!

Feb 24, 2014 2:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Meanwhile, back at the ranch . . .

Barack: “Biden, get in that Situation Room and take these extra red dry-erase markers and start drawing some red lines. We’re going to need a lot of ‘em. Take Pelosi with you. Tell her I said help you.”

Biden: “ohhhhhwhinnnnnnneeee…”

Barack: “Get going. Chop Chop. We’re gonna need a LOT of red lines.”

Feb 24, 2014 3:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pointlomacali wrote:

KGB Hegemony

Feb 24, 2014 3:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JohnCa wrote:

“There are big doubts about the legitimacy of a whole series of organs of power that are now functioning there.”
And for good reason; any time there is a political “struggle”, “protest” or “revolt”, socialist/communist groups always gravitate to leadership positions and try to take over the movement for their own style of corruption and tyranny.

Feb 24, 2014 3:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
JohnCa wrote:

“There are big doubts about the legitimacy of a whole series of organs of power that are now functioning there.”
And for good reason; any time there is a political “struggle”, “protest” or “revolt”, socialist/communist groups always gravitate to leadership positions and try to take over the movement for their own style of corruption and tyranny.

Feb 24, 2014 3:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
sabrefencer wrote:

this is simple RUSSIAN SPEAK… if we sense the world will do nothing, if we will pay no real price for doing so…THE RUSSIANS WILL INVADE THE UKRAINE…the Putin, his stooges, must be warned in no uncertain terms, that that would be a huge mistake and do everything the world can, to make the Russian GOVT pay for this , if the Russians take this road..if the world fails here, the invasion of the Ukraine, will start shortly…that is what Medvedev is telling you…wakey up Eu, Obama, Kerry..it is coming

Feb 24, 2014 4:39pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Macysday wrote:

If anyone wants to know, the whole reason Ukraine is a strategic
country to occupy isn’t because of the oil fields, but because of the entrance into Russia. Just know that the geographic layout is perfect for Western invasion. Right now, the economic power of Ukraine could only be improved by joining Russia. If they joined the EU (Europeans Under Britain), they would join the rest of “new” Eastern European countries that barely get enough to eat if they aren’t in the 2% that comprise the middle and upper class.

Feb 24, 2014 4:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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