China PLA officers urge economic punch against U.S.

PLEASE DO IT! We really don’t need our future tied together with the Chinese Communists, who undermine us at every turn. You are doing us a favor by doing so! We need to get our own house in order! Let’s up the ante and sell nukes to Taiwan!

And so it begins…

Go Obama!!! Keep up the weak stance, I’m sure the they’ll take pity on you eventually! Haha running the U.S. isn’t quite as easy as your grandiose campaign speeches made it out to be eh?

New era of diplomacy,…. what happend Mr Obama? It appears the communists and dictators alike are in high gear while you lecture us on universal health care and plunge our nation further into debt.

I would welcome Bush back with open arms after the last 13 miserable, uninspiring, months.

That’s fair! I have stopped buying anything made in China! It’s on!

nope our president doesnt give a darn all he cares about is that he was the president that passed the HCare bill and b rought socialism to the usllll

This action would cause world markets to react and the ‘quid pro quo’ would be to start tariffs and banning of China’s products in the US which would cause their markets to crash along with the rest of the world. Shows just how dangerous their military actually can be if given the decision-making authority in China. It also shows the dangerous game Obama plays by running up a defict in our country.

I buy product from China by the container load. I will stop and buy from India if they pull this stunt….What goes around comes around…

I hope they do it… if we had any balls we would just announce that we are not going to make payments on any US bonds, like the South American countries did in the not so long ago past.

Then we would force the US government to live on a budget of what they have not what the politicians want.

No problem. Our response? We’ll stop buying “Made in China” crap and bring them to thier knees.

you people had no problem with all your previous presidents where the teaklan then…sit back and enjoy the ride.

US Military response – halt all imports of Chinese goods if they dump a single US bond in retaliation to us trading with Taiwan. They may own our debt but we supply the money for them to buy it.

Oh please do this and drive a stake through the heart of the republican corporate vampire.

Ahhh this could be so much fun. Maybe we should stop importing some Chinese products and see how they handle their newly unemployed Chinese citizens.

This could make us live within our means.

A US arms-race with China will stimulate employment.

It’s time to change our policy regarding Taiwan. I’d be pissed if the situation were reversed. Give them their island, and give us fair trade practices.

Obama will get a lot of “Economic Punch” from China over the next few years, Obama is a very hard learner. Need lots of quick laughs after this bad news… http://leevandenbrink.blogspot.com

I don’t think people really grasp the whole situation. If china dumped all their us bonds it would flood the market with so many dollars we would be unable to pay up; making the us dollar worthless.

Right! These communist bumps are suggesting to punish us by cutting their own throats first. Brilliant – that tells us their caliber. The arms sale to Taiwan are all defensive in nature. If they would stop or just freeze their arms build up there will be no justification for these arms sale. In fact, the huge defensive build up of the communist military is the root cause of all the arms race in the entire Asian region. So much for the peaceful emergence of a peace loving China. Watch out world, we are indeed living in a dangerous era. May be we are living in a the time just before World War II. Except this time it the not the Europeans that are causing the problem. Be prepared my dear friends in the free world.

It is time to change the American President.

Let’s see if this comment makes it. The other two didn’t.

I don’t think this ‘genius’ PLA officer understands how the bond markets works or how a move like that would undermine the Chinese economy.

Well Go Ahead O’—Bow! (now!!)

Fools. You sent us stuff and we sent you paper. Ha ha.

Why can’t Communist China convince Taiwan
to join all the fun on the mainland ?

Could it be that Taiwan has seen what happend to Hong Kong ?

Tried to post twice, Reuters seems to hate me personally. Screw ya

Like they need a reason. Our government is ruled by China. We are no longer sovereign. China with one decision can send the dollar plummeting and our economy with it.

Most of China still lives in the Stone age. So, a plummeting Chinese economy means nothing to them. They will just use the military to kill any dissent.

Entitlement-fueled debt and energy dependency are our greatest threats to national security.

Message to Obama and the Dems in Congress: “The borrower is slave to the lender.”

When will Americans realize that it’s never been more important to buy Made in the U.S.A. brands. Boycott China and watch them come running. Don’t cut the hand that feeds you China. We are your biggest customer.

Future American generations should just walk away from paying back any loans that China makes to our present crooked government. China needs to be warned about feeding our present gluttonous government, becasue our government is borrowing and spending against the people’s will here in the U.S.

I do remember a time when the Russians were setting up shop in Cuba and we responded with a naval blockade. All we have here is a some leaked PLA chatter in response to selling arms to Taiwan and we are freaking out.

Someone better get a hold of the Big-Spender-In-Chief and tell him the Chinese just canceled his credit cards..
How is it that not a soul in the White House understands that taking China’s money to spend on arming Taiwan would be seen as a slap in the face? and these are the foreign policy geniuses that we’re all supposed to revere? I bet Jimmy Carter never even thought of that. There are only 2 possibilities to describe the motive behind this recklessness: a. Obama and his cabinet don’t understand the consequences of their policies, which makes them incompetent or b. The destruction caused by their policies is intentional and serves a purpose, which makes them malicious. Both scenarios are equally bad for America.

My first two comments got canceled. I am waiting to see if my 3rd will make it. Maybe this one will not make it. Is not, then Eat my Shorts Reuters. Everyone knows Reuters is a liberal rag.

Great idea, Generals. I’m glad I’m not the only one who misses the cold war. Then the US could raise tariffs on Chinese goods, place excise taxes on raw materials and food being exported to China. We could arm Taiwan with whatever they wanted and import all our cheap goods from countries like your historical adversary Vietnam. There would be no better way to stop the Chinese economy than a trade war.

If China wants to flex it sphincter muscle then the US should take the cap off pressure for inflation. Let inflation run it course and the China government will be crying for us to stop. They have benefited from our economy they should live with our support of Taiwan.

This is all posturing for the next WW. Why make the playing fiels any more level. As soon as they think they have the advantage they will use one of thier front like Iran or NK to light the fuse.

There are two categories of posters on this board: The ignorant racists and the faked Americans who care more about the country of origine than the US.

The ignorant racists love wars and the arm industry of hundred of billions per year just love them.

The faked Americans try to sound like Americans, but all they want is for the Americans to subsidize imports of their countries’ sub-standard goods.

Any of these two groups will not blink an eye when they see America down…

Just print up more money and buy these bonds back from China. Then sell them to the American people by force.

All I can say is bring it on. There will be a showdown between China and the US at some point within my lifetime and it’s better to deal with it now than 40 years from now. The Chinese are on crack if they really believe they can pull off a trade war/economic war with the diversified US economy and not come out on the short end.

I informed the DrudgeReport how Reuter comment screeners do not include all comments that goes against Reuter’s liberal slant. I incouraged Drudge to not use the Reuters links so much.

AMERICA…STOP BUYING CHINA’S GOODS!

“And so it begins…” – LittleOldMe

How true, and how sad. Obama and the Democrats economic wrecklessness will come home to rooste.

When the 2nd dip comes, nobody will care to hear the well worn “It’s Bush’s fault” excuse.

Pterosaur, how about those of you who will stop at nothing to cover for Obama?

@Ivtalon– My first reaction when I heard the USA was going to sell the arms to Taiwan (right after Paulsen disclosed in his memoirs that the Chinese refused to go along with the Russians in dumping Fannie and Freddy Securities to screw us over) was disbelief. The Chinese had done us a favor and we slapped them in the face. I am hopeful the State Department analysts have this thought through. It seems to me that the Chinese acted in good faith and were punished.

kiss my ass i will not buy chinese food again did anyone else notice obama is black?

That’s what happens when you let your enemies own you. Check out this hilarious parody on Obama’s spending: http://www.narf.tv/?p=416

These are the same “counterpunches” that China refuses to support against Iran. China is not a friend of the US.

Trade war, trade war!!

Don’t any oh yall watch Glenn Beck?

U.S. is too dependent on China. It is in U.S. best interest to have China own less U.S. debt than China now owns. China selling U.S. debt would strengthen Chinese currency relative to U.S. currency and that would be a very good thing for the U.S. right now.

BHO: “No Problem, we will just borrow more money, maybe this time from Iran”
What fools run the USA.

BHO was not about Hope and Change, but really about Hoax and Chains. Fooled us with the Socialism head fake, but the economic constraints are real. Get used to it.

China can’t do a thing…They are screwed if they dump bonds and screwed if they don’t…
They eat Dog’s Cat’s anything that moves..they should be boycotted for that alone….I try not to buy anything China related. Modern technology meets 3rd world Mindset.
I don’t even eat Chinese Food anymore..! Thai Food for me…Adios Mousey Dung!

Test

Tell China to get over it after we tell them we will not honor the bonds … lets get this ball rolling and see how good the 10 Million Man Army really is. We either do it this way or slash our own throats thru any world forum … were on to many hit lists for to many good and bad reasons.

“Do you know how to catch wild pigs?”
You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.
When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again.
You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught.
Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.” This exactly what is happening in America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax cuts, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
One should always remember two truths:
1) There is no such thing as a free lunch
2) You can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government ‘help’ is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends.
If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably are on welfare of some sort.
But God help you when the gate slams shut!

America is “Mystery Babylon” mentioned in Bible prophecy. Sadly America will be burned from the East to the West which can only mean nuclear attacks and probably from Russia, China and the Arab nations. I pray the rapture happens before prophecy’s fulfilled.

I just want to ask a question to above in this time!Are you scums?I think the relations between China and the United States became more and more strain,the victims not only ourself,even but also entire world ,entire world economy and security!Why are you fond of war so much!You want to see people death or just want to see someone more tragic than you!Obama!A big scum!Just for his own political ambition,not hesitate to harden the relationship between China and the United States!I think obama is not qualified to serve as president!And some follish Americans still were misled by their own media and government!Now I recall the theme of the Beijing Olympic Games”one world!”Since we are the world!we are the Humans!we all have father,mother and people we loves!so why should we fighting!why can”t we cooperarte!So just cooperate!Just hope peace and try for it!Sincerely hope that the Sino-US Friendship and Peace!Blessings of peace and friendship around the world!

I just want to ask a question to above in this time!Are you scums?I think the relations between China

and the United States became more and more strain,the victims not only ourself,even but also entire

world ,entire world economy and security!Why are you fond of war so much!You want to see people death

or just want to see someone more tragic than you!Obama!A big scum!Just for his own political

ambition,not hesitate to harden the relationship between China and the United States!I think obama is

not qualified to serve as president!And some follish Americans still were misled by their own media

and government!Now I recall the theme of the Beijing Olympic Games”one world!”Since we are the

world!we are the Humans!we all have father,mother and people we loves!so why should we fighting!why

can”t we cooperarte!So just cooperate!Just hope peace and try for it!Sincerely hope that the Sino-US

Friendship and Peace!Blessings of peace and friendship around the world!

I don’t understand. Can one of the many Obama worshipers (particularly in the media) explain why everything is not now sweetness and light since Obama has taken over.

Could it just be that America’s enemies and pseudo friends perceive him as weak. Surely not. He is too great for that.

Comments such as this from any countries military leaders is not wise. It only stresses the need for political leaders of all countries to monitor its millitary leaders, or one day risk their possible intent to over throw current systems. Of course, it only divides world communities further apart.

you nuts screaming at Obama can’t blame him for A. allowing arms sales to Taiwan to line american companies pockets and B. Bust him out because China was buying up U.S debt before he came in office.

Obama now answers to the Chinese. Make no mistake, the Chinese are NOT our friends. The Red Army’s stated policy is to bring down the US through economic means wherever possible as outlined in THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS! They have murdered millions of their own people. We must move away from doing business with this regime and do it soon.

The Chinese Government is and has been conducting a war with the UNITED STATES for years, continually allowing and encouraging companies (STATE OWNED) to poison and toxify products going to the US consumer goods markets, under wrighting attempts to steal access to computer servers and conducting a state sponsored industrial espionage program. They are still an active recruiter of ethinic chinese citizens of the US to engage in espionage against our military and our research establishment pressuring these citizens of the US to betray this country on the grounds that as chinese americans they should support the chinese peoples republic over the interests of the US due to their common ethinnic heritage. They also still continually seek to provide finaincial support to the RETHUGLICAN PARTY even going so far as to demand the release from prison of US RETHUGLICANS who were convicted for arranging finacing for the RETHUGLICANS from various chinese banks including one directly owned by the red army. They also continue to threaten other governments for their involvement with the US, i.e. the illegal occupation of a northern Phillipine island where they tried to build an advanced military base suitable for conducting operations through out the southern Pacific region, they continue to poison the Pacific fisheries with toxic discharges directly into the Pacific version of the Gulf Stream in an attempt to spread toxins and other destructive pollutants into US waters and to destroy the fisheries that many American pacific coastal states depend on economically, they still promote polices of copyright infringement soley to destroy US economic interests as well as being the most egresious producer of illegal knockoffs targeting the consumer US markets, they engage in false flag labling to disguise the source of toxic products to evade US border controls, they have encouraged and secured concessions from Mexico to be the proxy conduit for access to US markets using the flawed provisions of NAFTA that the Bush administration allowed to continue with full knowledge of their actual evasion of IMPORT control laws and to bypass US import restrictions, etc.etc.etc. It is time to get tough with China and to recognize their intent to achieve (first) parity with our military capabilities soley for undertaking military action against the US and our interests in the Pacific and elsewhere and they do not make any distictions between attacks on our health,economy,government and the civilian populations of the United States. Nor has China agreeded to commit to no first use option of nuclear,biological or chemical weapons

I was about to order a container from China. Think I’ll wait.

Some of you certainly have very selective memories! The chinese have been the primary purchasers of US treasuries for years, especially when the Bush regime was ongoing. Now the chickens are starting to come home to roost, and Obams just happens to be unlucky getting stuck with problems caused by your man Bush!

I CAN CREATE 15 MILLION JOBS ALMOST OVER NIGHT right here in America !!!

Here is my Job creation Computations:

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Total USA Imports in 2006:
——————-
$ 2,211.7 billion —– Total Imports.
$ 309.4 billion less — (minus spent on Imported Crude Oil)
————————
$ 1,902.3 billion / 30 billion=63.41 million jobs lost from Imports.
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Total USA Exports in 2006:
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$ 1,451.7 Billion / 30 billion=48.39 million jobs America gained from Exports

If USA Pulls out of NAFTA and WTO right now:
USA would absolutely gain a total of 63.41 million Jobs by Manufacturing all IMPORTS right here in the USA.

So, 63.41 minus 48.39 = 15.02 million NET JOBS GAIN. But, a lot of Exports must be purchased in the USA. That would mean an even more jobs.

My calculation means an ABSOLUTE 15.02 million Jobs gained if the rest of the world did not buy even one penny of USA EXPORTS.

SO MOTE IT BE.

Folks — I said this a few months ago — each one of you need to research WHY WW II started. WHY did the Japs attack us? Go a LITTLE FURTHER than “we wouldn’t meet their demands.” Ask yourself– “Gee, self, how could the Japs possibly DEMAND anything from us? What gave them the nerve?”

You’ll see that what happened with the Japs is happening with China right before our very F’ing eyes.

We should have elected a HISTORIAN, not a lousey arse, worthless POS lawyer for President.

American propaganda is so powerful it censors the actual truth from its SHEEP citizens, who blindly believe anything.

China has been bailing out this country for over 10 years, buying up our junk treasury bonds, and was the one country that SAVED the US from complete collapse in Sept2008. They have acted in good faith, which was a mistake. They shouldn’t trust our corrupt, propagandist, corporation-controlled government.

China was already the first country out of the financial crisis; its banks are sound, and less than 1/5 of its GDP and exports are to the United States.

All this tough talk about ‘bringing China to its knees’ are the exact kind of garbage Faux News and Drudge listeners are wrong about. The US is like Britain in the early 20th century, with the same arrogance and blindness!!

American propaganda is so powerful it apparently twists the truth from its SHEEP citizens, who blindly believe anything. China has been bailing out this country for over 10 years, buying up our junk treasury bonds, and was the one country that SAVED the US from complete collapse in Sept2008. They have acted in good faith, which was a mistake. They shouldn’t trust our corrupt, propagandist, corporation-controlled government. China was already the first country out of the global financial crisis; its banks are sound, and less than 1/5 of its GDP and exports are to the United States.
All this tough talk about ‘bringing China to its knees’ are the exact kind of propaganda Faux News and Drudge’s listeners are wrong about. The US is like Britain in the early 20th century, with the same arrogance and blindness!!

Go ahead China, and we will shut Wal-Mart down. Go ahead.

If I was President of America, I would Punish CHINA by Pulling out of NAFTA and WTO.

++++++++++++++++++++

I CAN CREATE 15 MILLION JOBS ALMOST OVER NIGHT right here in America !!!

Here is my Job creation Computations:

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Total USA Imports in 2006:
——————-
$ 2,211.7 billion —– Total Imports.
$ 309.4 billion less — (minus spent on Imported Crude Oil)
————————
$ 1,902.3 billion / 30 billion=63.41 million jobs lost from Imports.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Total USA Exports in 2006:
————————
$ 1,451.7 Billion / 30 billion=48.39 million jobs America gained from Exports

If USA Pulls out of NAFTA and WTO right now:
USA would absolutely gain a total of 63.41 million Jobs by Manufacturing all IMPORTS right here in the USA.

So, 63.41 minus 48.39 = 15.02 million NET JOBS GAIN. But, a lot of Exports must be purchased in the USA. That would mean an even more jobs.

My calculation means an ABSOLUTE 15.02 million Jobs gained if the rest of the world did not buy even one penny of USA EXPORTS.

SO MOTE IT BE.

Even in today’s day and age, one is known by the company s/he keeps. If we befriend China, and we have befriended China, and China uses child labor all day, all night, every day, every night, until the children drop. What does that say for the USA?

Think about it!!

Tom Coyne
www.coyne-assoc.com

What a smart ploy; buy falling US bonds, to keep your mfg base propped up and then pull the rug out from yourself by selling short. It’s a masterful play by the USA; allow the Chicoms to build things we like but can easily do without. When tough times come; US consumers stop buying Chinese junk. Gotta love it, almost as if planned; can you say “strategery?” The USA will always be the “sleeping GIANT.” Giddy up USA, time to re-load. Cha-ching.

Let them do it, we can buy our own bonds back cheap, or better yet let our allies buy them Cheap!

Do it like this….

1. Taiwan, Japan, Germany, and South Korea buy bonds cheap from the PRC.

2. They redeem the bonds at face value fromthe US in exchange for buying US construction equipment, F-22s, F-35s, computers etc.

3. The value goes directly to stimulating US jobs and industry, the allies get US goods (and US spare parts contracts for the future) and the Chinese get under face value. Everyone wins. (Except the Chicom government who sold cheap.)

798 billion? Thats all they hold? That just one tarp program. Let them sell it and we’ll see what happens.

1)Boycott Made in China will not work, as all affordable alternative products from SE Asia uses Chinese components as well. Also, most factories in SE Asia are owned by ethnic Chinese.

2)To default on bonds sold to China will not work in this global market. China can unload all the US bonds at hugh discount in the global market… and the US financial system will collapse. Just like you default on credit card payment and the bank sold your note to a third party in the global market — could be any country… if US default on China, the US defaults the whole world, and our financial system oollapse instantly…China will get hurt, buy they can still produce “real things” to sell to the non-Western world while we produce only paper money and “services” which is basically useless when comes to that point.

America is more and more corning itself from which she will never ever able to come out of it!

It seems to me that foreign policy being dictated by anger and eye for an eye behavior will lead nowhere good all too fast.

Hey…no Sanctions for Russia…with China and North Korea’s assistance for building the Nuclear Facilities in Iran…Russia Built’m!…nobody says anything!
Don’t buy anything from China…especially pet related…full of Lead and Poison!

yes – bring it on.. let us buy stuff from India and dump these sh*** made dumpster safe crap.. remember we built this freaking red commie ctry and we should pull the plug

I hope I am wrong, but I think the era of the USA dominating the worlds stage is rapidly coming to an end. The smiling panda has turned into a fire breathing dragon. The bullying thuggish behaviour from Peking has started.
I hope all those who were against the USA years ago, think and look closely at China. It alarms me the way they behave.

Do not buy from China? Buy from where? Can we afford European shoes? Chinese sell our bonds, well our home mortgage rates will go up..might lose home. Sell nukes to Taiwan..what if they join China sooner..stupid gamble. We should learn more history, geography and humanity before we make more mistakes like the last decade.

What’s this? I thought this was the guy that was going to have the world loving us! Bring back GWBush!!!!! I’m sick of CHANGE!!!!!

So the China officials believe that they can take action that will slap some common sense into the feeble financial minds of the US government…GRRRREAT!!!
DO IT YESTERDAY!!! Bring a wee bit of fiscal responsibility to the world of capitalism.

What the Chinese fail to mention is that the weapons we sold to Taiwan are defenisve in nature and are needed due to the massive build up of short and medium range missiles on the Chinese mainland pointed across the Taiwan straight. It’s not like we sold them some weapons that Taiwan could use offensively. Allow us to put crippling sanctions on Iran in the U.N. and we will withdraw our arms sale to Taiwan. :)

I have had it with these commy bas#%#ds. First they sell us poison drywall, then poison our cats and dogs, then use lead paint on childrens toys, then poison metals used in jewelry. What’s next? Sell them all, I promise never to buy “Made in China” again. And to all you Obama haters, get over, move on, sorry bunch of loosers. Just what the heck did Bush do for us. He was in charge when the economy went south.

This is really silly and ignorant scaremongering. So, the Chinese are going to sell their US treasury bonds? To whom exactly? The Europeans? Yeah right. The Japanese? You must be a comedian. Maybe Liberia will buy them. But the problem is they have no money. This is just childish. They can’t get the Americans to pay in Yuan so they are screwed and all their whining means nothing.

Get the hell out of my way! – John Galt

Let them sale the U.S. bonds & that will eliminate them from any future hold on America.

Our politicians got us into this China web of us being controlled by foreign countries & we need to get out. Let them sell.

I say, screw the Chinese on the $800 Billion we owe them. Just exchange that for all the technology and products they have stolen from us.

Great idea!! Boycott China made products & let’s see who wins this battle of nerves. Buy American!!

Yes Yes!!!! Do it China!!! Do it now!!! Put our government out of its misery and help its citizens default on our debt…what a relief that would be.

Just don’t come over here and buy up what’s left of our manufacturing with your dollar reserves….I know you can’t sell them to anyone else but I don’t think I can learn how to speak Chinese.

If China dumps, that would give him a real crisis to deal with. Couldn’t talk your way out of that.

There are some on this board who suggest boycotting China because China does not obey the US on sanctioning Iran.

Since when the ultimate national interests of the US is all about sanctioning Iran who at most can make a few nukes and would never dare or be able to use it on the US. The only country Iran could threaten is Israel.

And why Americans and their children and grand-children have to pay dearly for others’ interests? Maybe someone on this board could answer this question in an intelligent way?

The state of the US economy today makes me more fearful of the Chinese selling off a lot of bonds than the ChiComs ramping up military spending.

When it comes down to it, we will drop Taiwan like a hot brikck when the going gets tough. It’s simply not worth our financial well being, increased debt, or war to protect the Taiwanese.

This President has bumbled us into a real mess,and there’s no diginified way out.

what they do not know,,,

chinese factories are worthless without customers,,,

It is about time the USA put a huge tariff on all goods MADE IN CHINA – see who cries UNCLE then.

china exspands trade war via third world countries Vietnam, South Korea, Malaysia, Canada and Mexico,,,

China evading US duties via third nations
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/167907/china-evading-us-duties-via-third-nations-group

LouisianaGuy,

If China dumped the Treasury, the US wouldn’t need to put any tariff because Americans wouldn’t have any money to buy anything, even the cheapest Chinese goods. LOL…

CoLeo sarcastically calls for President Obama to keep up “the weak stance”. Yet, it is the decision to sell weapons to Taiwan that is the contect of this article that reports on the Chinese military’s anger at that action. The Chinese are also upset that that the Obama administration is planning to meert with the Dalai Lama. Neither of these actions can reasonably be defined as “weak”.

Just say NO to crap made in Communist Red China.

Love the comment by lesechange, he gets my vote. A nuclear war with China is unlikely so let them waste their money on nuclear submarines. They’ve been stealing our technology secrets with their spies and hackers. I think we should fine those commie Chinese about $2 trillion dollars, the amount we owe them. mensunion.org For a good laugh, go to youtube and search Obamanator 240, a cartoon satire.

Why didn’t Gen. Macarthur finish the job?

I present my deepest sympathy to the Americans who still think they are stting on top of the world.

They are drowing yet they think they can drink up the oceans to stop it.

Goods to the US represents less than a fifth of China’s total economy and GDP.

They would take a hit temporarily by dumping dollars, yes, but then the United States would take the brunt of the damage by descending like Argentina into 2nd or 3rd world status. The dollar would be worth less than toilet paper.

Recon, you’re an idiot. China was an ally during WWII and helped fight off Japan. The complaints here about China, sound a lot like early 20th century Brits WHINING about crappy American manufacturing and Americans stealing British technology.

It makes no sense for American multi-national corporations, who basically control the United States, to pay an American $30/hour when an Indian or Chinese worker can do just as good a job for $1/hour. The world needs to re-balance and it’s not going to be pretty for the United States.

All the emphasis on “communist” is pretty funny.
China is MORE CAPITALIST than the United States right now.
The United States has just passed multiple bailout bills worth over $4Trillion, which are socialism for the rich and Wall St.
Regular Americans are left with the bill, to the tune of $100K per American citizen.

@ Recon1001
Why didnt u become superman?

Real fun to see all these good for nothing clowns jumping in front of machine guns and yell: ’shoot me, oh plz shoot me! ‘ Keep up with your whining, yankees.

us import from china : 337,772 millions $
us export from china: 69,732 millions $
deficit: 268,039.8 millions $

- Stop imports from China, create works in the US …
- or just Switch to India

If China sold treasuries our exporters would love it because the dollar would fall compared to renminbi due to lack of demand for dollars from China. On the other hand, all this deficit spending we’ve been doing to boost the economy would be reversed or under pressure to get funds elsewhere.

China has been getting a free ride for a long time now. It’s time to reduce our deficit and send their money back to them so that our dollar falls and they can’t sell to us at cut-rate prices. OK, so it would entail a bit more unemployment for a while …

Feb 09, 2010 10:44pm ESTWhy didn’t Gen. Macarthur finish the job? Recon1001

simple,,, president TRUMAN,,, put the blame wher it belongs,,,

also,,, president FDR,,, had he negotiated peace with japan and kept the usa out of ww2,,, there would be no china nor north korea,,, or even maybe the ussr,,,

@ wrongatlarge
Wow! Superman is here. Now maybe, just maybe if over 1 miliion years ago, some rat-alike mimal had not met some other rat-alike mimal, there would be no YOU posting jibberish here on reuters.

US should just DEFAULT on all the loans the US has with China…wonder what the Idiots in the PLA will come up with as a “punch” then…..lol

As if China’s leaders would take this advice from the military. Gimme a break!

It’s China’s money, they can do what they please with it. This issue will escalate.

how is your japanese CNP??? hahaha

さようなら

ummmm last time i checked,,,

china still pegs its currency to the usa dollar,,,

that makes them just like another american state,,,

them selling bonds,,,

is like them shooting themselves in the foot,,, hahaha,,,

Taxes4,

Goods to the US represents less than a fifth of China’s total economy and GDP.

They would take a hit temporarily by dumping dollars, yes, but then the United States would take the brunt of the damage by descending like Argentina into 2nd or 3rd world status. The dollar would be worth less than toilet paper.

Your ideas are rather simplistic. First of all, China cannot dump 2 trillion dollars in a second. It takes time, and before the transactions are done, everyone will know about it. The dollar would crash before they dumped all their money, and the might get a few billion out of it. That means they would lose over a trillion dollars in a flash.

Also, you meantioned that trade with the US is about 1/5 of their economy. 20 percent is a huge number. But not only would they lose this 1/5 of their economy, but they would also lose the export markets of nations who would be affected by the dollar crash, EU, Japan, Korea, ASEAN, Australia, Canada, some middle eastern nations, many south American nations, and even Russia. China would lose a lot more than just 1/5 of their economy.

Therefore, China will not dump the dollar or US T-bills; they might only slow down their purchase. But other will buy them, for example, Japan and Germany who both need the export markets for their growth.

If the US put high tariffs on ALL chinese goods, which i support since china has been practicing a harsh form of economic protectionism for the past 15 years, China would lose a big chunk of thei GDP. 1/5 is a huge number. They wouldn’t lose that much, but even a few percent would reverse China’s momentum.

Personally, I think the Chinese were given too many handouts by the EU and the US. We let them export to our markets so that they can grow, and now they are getting arrogant. Just look at the comments of chinese on here. China is a rising, arrogant nation, and we need to stop treating them like a developing nation and hit them hard.

Pterosaur

It is simple, if Iran can attack Israel with nuclear weapons, you don’t care. Others do not want a nuclear war waged on this planet. If Iran has nuclear weapons, it is my personal guess that there is a 99 percent chance of a nuclear war between Iran and Israel if the current Iranian leader is still in play. I don’t want to see that happen, but the Chinese seem to not care.

Good. Maybe the People’s Republic of China can teach America how to be capitalist again so we can actually compete with China instead of borrow its money (and sell weapons to your creditors enemy).

Blah again.

China has nuke, it doesnt nuke the Japs or fake Japs like wrongatlarge.
America has nuke, it doesnt nuke NK
NK has nuke, it doesnt nuke US
Your personal guess of 99% is plainly white as paper.
Let me ask u sth, India has nuke though its not allowed to do so, but no one cares. Why? coz its kissing some serious white ass. Now at lease (just for discussion’s sake) Iran has not declared to produce nuke with its tech. Which one is worse?
People always see it like this, if you have nuke, then I can. If I cant, everyone else cant. However, this is a big topic so I wont go into it anymore.
Just one more thing, b4 NK tested their nuke, GW Bush said it will use force to destroy NK’s equipment if NK continues its plan. Why cant I see any FORCE done to NK?
This whole ’show”(every recent event) is not about anything, its all about the US finding out it can not boss everyone around as smooth as b4, you may not like it but just get use to it. More pain is coming.

PLEASE CHINESE MILITARY LEADERS…STOP BUYING OUR BONDS! It is the only way to save the US! The Pelosi Congress is completely MAD with deficit spending. So please Chinese Military Leaders press your government to stop buying our bonds to retaliate.

DO IT NOW…PLEASE

CNP,

A redneck? I guess you are one of these racist chinese people who like to get on western webpages and insult whites. I have a masters degree in international relations and economics. I would suggest you to study up on economics. Also study up on English, because you didn’t understand what I said. I was saying that it would hurt both sides, so it doesn’t make sense for the PLA, not an organization full of experts on economics, to want to attack the US by “cutting their own throats,” as another poster put it.

I’m not sure you can make fun of rednecks; they are hard working, smart people. They don’t bother you, but everyone esle bothers them. However, I think you should pay more attention to your own country. I have visited the chinese countryside many times and talked to the people. Do you really think they are happy and content? If so, China has more problems than you realize.

And one day in the future(very soon) Americans will see the light. The “Made in China” label will be the kiss of death. Walmart, Nike, IKEA, will be very bad stocks to own. Support Taiwan, buy Taiwan, buy American, buy smart. . .

china exspands trade war via third world countries Vietnam, South Korea, Malaysia, Canada and Mexico,,,

China evading US duties via third nations
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/167907/china-evading-us-duties-via-third-nations-group

Another word for evey American here who do not understand what T-bill is.
Its your country’s face, its your dignity, its your credit. doing stupid things towards it means….

CNP,

Again, study up on Iran. The current leader has already stated that he wants to “wipe Israel of the map.” Considering he is willing to ruin his country’s economy to build up its nuclear capabilities tells me that he isn’t the normal leader.

Blah
Sure you’ve got a degree in economics at Chuckles Uni. As your words are as insightful as the Oracle.
I just feel real fun when seeing criminals calling out for police. If ur ‘degree’ is true as you suggest it is. Plz

oh plz understand the consequence of high tarif on Chinese products. LMAO.

I’m not sure you can make fun of Chinese…but everyone esle bothers them.

Plzzzz name exactly how many and which Chinese country sides you visted, what response you got from my fellow man

and who accompanied you when u did that, I spent 7 yrs in UK, 5 in B’ham, yet I dont judge them in anyway as I know

I havnt seen it all. About who is arogant and who can hits whom harder, we’ll see about that.

All hail to ur degree!

N look at this fake Jap： wrongatlarge
卧槽泥马勒戈壁

Feb 10, 2010 2:35am ESTAnother word for evey American here who do not understand what T-bill is.
Its your country’s face, its your dignity, its your credit. doing stupid things towards it means…. CNP

hahaha it is the chinese face,,, they are stupid enough to buy them,,, lol

japatlarge: hahaha
当年没把你丫射墙上真可惜了，sigh

Blah, dont only focus on Iran.
For your stated same reasons, NK swears to wipe of US.
Many Chinese also wish to wipe of Japs.
Many US wish to wipe of NK IRAN CHINA
I only study on US, I see fall of a once great power and reluctance to change.

Blah, dont only focus on Iran.
For your stated same reasons, NK swears to wipe of US.
Many Chinese also wish to wipe of Japs.
Many US wish to wipe of NK IRAN CHINA
I only study on US, I see fall of a once great power and reluctance to change.

Again its sad. So many drowning people thinking they are still the world dominant power, cursing this and that, bragging that they’ll revenge this or that. While their faces get slapped again and again. Have fun with that.

CNP

People know what T-bills are. It is you who does not understand the situation. China’s “face” or reputation is only in GDP. If trade were cut off, there is no more GDP rise in China, there will be less investment, and no more money to buy US T-bills.

Without exports, China is nothing. And, without the US, exports will decline at a fast rate. The EU is also tired of Chinese protectionist mentality, such as currency manipulation, traditional and non-traditional trade protectionism, and discimination against foreign companies in China. When the ASEAN-china free trade agreement takes hold, more foreign companies will set up shop in ASEAN nations and export to China. They will do this because foreign companies are getting tired of being attacked (google) and arrested (Rio tinto) or just discriminated against (most companies that do development work are told that the local governments can only hire local companies to do roads and energy work).

Chinese are so worried that other nations are going to try and hurt their growth, but they don’t realize that Chinese arrogance, racism, and xenophobia is what will end their rise before it even starts.

您的中國人是好，但是您的日本人是什麼我談論，房子男孩

hahaha

@wrongatlarge
Feb 10, 2010 2:35am ESTAnother word for evey American here who do not understand what T-bill is.
Its your country’s face, its your dignity, its your credit. doing stupid things towards it means…. CNP

hahaha it is the chinese face,,, they are stupid enough to buy them,,, lol

Well, you sound like you are pro-US or just simply anti-China, follow your logic, every country in the world is stupid as nearly all of them buy US T-bills. Then you are making US emeny of the world, but I dont think the US would like to be enemy of the world so you are bad mouthing the US which will make you anti-US, so which side are you on? So pathetic,智力不好的脑残孩子请吃脑白金

china needs another cultural revolution,,, lol

not every country that buys usa t-bills are stupid enough to peg their currency to the american dollar,,,

that makes china america’s door mat,,, lol

在您開始復仇之前旅途，開掘二個墳墓。

wrongatlarge, your translater sux. Get a good one.
Blah, think you are American so you should understand English,read my exact word.
‘Another word for evey American here WHO do not understand what T-bill is.’
If you think you understands it, ok then, quoting on that sentence of mine automatically categorize urself into thoese who dont understand. Read your Americans’ comments from no 1-no 100 at least and tell me they understand what the heck T-bills mean.
Btw, dont always go another direction on a topic. Compare to you, I’d rather say sth with mindlessatlarge, at least he’s really funnny.
Since you are like a oracle on this and that, well, i’ll let you have that with your honorable master degree from Chuckles Uni.

CNP

你真的不太了解这个世界。你的想法很单纯；你认为来这里骂西方人好玩吗？我们都知道你是死中国人，而你这样说会有坏的影响。

其实，很多西方人了解的比你多。中美经济关系不是那么简单的。中国不能不买美债。因为中国依靠出口来提高GDP.当然，以后中国可以鼓励国内经济发展，但是不会那么快。

你可以继续认为美国的力量在下降了。但是，你忘了美国在历史上遇到了很多困难。金融危机不是例外的。

而且，我觉得中国人不知道不只是美国人反对中国的经济帝国主义。有的非洲国家开始反对，有的南美洲国家也开始反对。欧洲和美国仍然能接受中国的贸易政策，但是我们也开始反对了。如果，我们不买中国产品，我们可以买难亚洲的，非洲的，印度的，等等。我们不要中国的。我真的觉得中国人的傲慢行为威胁中国发展。我们开始买谁的产品，谁就买美债。

blahhhhhh

well said,,,

CNP，我觉得你和wrongatlarge没有什么区别。

In the end, we are going to find that the Chinese will not dump their US T-bills, the US will slowly reduce their debt, and the trade will not be cut off.

All the arguments here are hypothetical.

I think Yirmin’s statement is outlandish to say the least. If you have a sovereign default case then you should not forget that a lot of US companies have significant investments in China. All of them will be expropriated!
I reckon the US will lose more than China and then who will fund the US deficit!
We don’t live in a fools paradise so please get your jingles out of here. It ain’t Christmas time!

verboseguy

Business confidence. If China were to do something that drastic, the world would lose confidence in them and stop investing. Then who would be supporting China GDP growth?

Blah haha

So sad, so sad, so sad.
你丫还蹲着外面呢？
Since you understand Chinese, whatever you are, fake Chinese/American or fake American/Chinese, I think you understand this following sentence of mine:
卧槽泥马勒戈壁！！！孙子！！！

So much so about national pride on both side of the Pacific. I do not think it is of national interest for China to be enemy of USA and vice versa. The sale of obsolete weapons to Taiwan is just a taxation on the Taiwan people. China will never use force on Taiwan, period. Just ask each and every province of China to establish close tie with Taiwan on one aspect of Taiwan life, the bond will be so strong that the two cannot be separated. The reverse is also true. ie Let each province compete with one aspect of life with Taiwan and Taiwan will be exhausted. Who would be so stupid to fire a single shot? It is not appropriate for PLA Officials to talk about monetary policies. The army should be subordinated to the leadership of politicans, not the other way round. It is true in all civilised countries. Foreign currency reserves are other people’s money. Just like when one enters the casino to change money for the chip. The reserve belongs to the patron and not the casino. If anyone have any illusion, it is just naive.

Is 房子男孩 meant to be 宅男 or 宅さん ?

Luo Yuan need to remember,,,

Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.

Blah, dont try to act all wise again after seeing you radical comments at the very begining.
孔子曰：莫装逼，装逼遭雷劈

wrongatlarge, sry ur ally didnt stand up for you.

China is already dumping the US dollar and quietly buying gold. Nothing new here.

下班了，回家了，民运毒也都回家歇着吧，都不能回中国了，你们丫还真是悲哀~~~~

下班了，回家了，民运毒也都回家歇着吧，都不能回中国了，你们丫还真是悲哀~~~~

About China’s GPD, local Chinese prefer to call it “speculation in real eastate”, which is exactly how Chinese feel about the double digit economic increase these years. They also call it “ass of chicken”, to show their anger towards the faked economic increase which brings them nothing but inflation.

Feb 10, 2010 4:20am ESTChina is already dumping the US dollar and quietly buying gold. Nothing new here. Montpessat

ummmmm maybe china should unpeg their currency from the american dollar before they do that,,,

i am just saying,,, hahaha

It would not surprise me at all if someday, when the US is even more in chaos, the Chinese launch their version of Red Dawn…unfortunately, unlike the outcome of the movie, I’m truly afraid we won’t make it.

seeItoldyouso

it would end the same,,, communists only like to fight unarmed people like tibet,,, they are afraid to attack taiwan,,, they are armed,,, it is funny,,, the chinese are afraid of taiwan’s defensive weapons,,, the american people are well armed and very offensive,,, do you hear that,,, “here kitty kitty”,,, that is the american people daring china to attack,,, year of the tiger,,, hahaha china is a pussy cat,,,

and then there will be no china,,,

what china needs is another cultural revolution,,, remember how pretty that was,,, lol

Scary isn’t it…that China is able to threaten us this way. Maybe NOW we’ll wake up and get control of government spending, the deficit and the entire population that government has created….the ones who wait for the government to give them stuff and who don’t recognize personal responsibility.www.thefedupamerican.com

china really stepped in it this time,,,

put a fork in china,,, it is done,,,

Rio Tinto employees to stand trial in China
Chinese news agency says 4 employees to stand trial on charge of stealing secrets
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Rio-Tinto-employees-to-stand-apf-592275243.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

nobody will want to do business with them now,,,

@wrong

What supports your statement that “nobody will want to do business with them now” ?

These 4 are charged with taking bribes and commercial espionage. The Chinese are trying to clean up corruption. That is a good thing.

I read that Novartis commited 1Billion for an R&D center in Shanghai.

OMG! Our military begs for funding to complete the missions assigned by the politicians and China’s army has investments in our treasury?

Does that mean their military is more democratic than ours?

Subasio

can you say trumprd up charges,,, sure you can,,, lol

can you say kangaroo court,,, sure you can,,, hahaha

china’s legal system is a sham,,,

Kangaroo courts are sham legal proceedings which are set-up in order to give the impression of a fair legal process. In fact, they offer no impartial justice as the verdict, invariably to the detriment of the accused, is decided in advance.

Please China please. Start a trade war. I’m begging you. Good for China, good for USA. Our Porkgressives will be unemployed for a generation, and your gangster commie class will be overthrown in the forthcoming depression. Great stuff! Go for it China. Please.

Reuters, Congress shall make no law respecting []… abridging the freedom of speech …

Note amendment 2: []… the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, … This government no longer represents its people. Reference The Federal Papers. We’re not cattle.

@wrong

What evidence do you have that what you say is true?

CNP,

My radical comments? I am not sure you really understood any of my “radical” comments. I have been saying that both sides would be hurt by any trade war or dumping of US Tbills. I am just saying that China would suffer as well.

But, i can see now that you are just a child who doesn’t really know much about the world. BTW, i’m not chinese american or american chinese. I am american. This proves you know nothing about the world since you don’t seem to know that non-chinese can actually learn chinese. In fact, I know many languages.

Anyway, I now think you are boring. The only thing you are accomplishing is showing western people how ignorant some chinese people are. In fact, keep up the good work.

‘Miss me yet?’
-GW Bush

Why are we doing business with these people? About a month ago i starged diligently trying to not buy anything made in China.

The ChiComs have no backbone behind this threat. I say “go for it”, and let’s see who has the bigger stones… oh, nevermind, our CIC has already proven that he has none

that wont slow the USA, bonds alone, that’ll have reverse effects on chian anyhow (read above)
began boycotting any and all (crap quality) products made in china.
I have a 2nd home in SE asia and notice their thirst for power and dying urge to have control over others. dont wanna support that, nor give into commies. they’re trying to buy up everything (in laos cambodia, malaysia, and especially property and casinos.) its the gag for power and display of it

johnatl123

It isn’t that hard; in fact most of our clothes and stuff are made in south America. A lot of electronics are now made in Thailand. There are also webpages on the internet where you can find lists of almost anything you want made in the USA. Just look up on google, made in USA. You will find these lists.

When will the USA finally cut back its alliance with Taiwan and allow China to assimilate them, as they did so successfully with Hong Kong? This, plus pulling US troops out of South Korea and forcing China to deal with North Korea firmly, should be our top Asian priorities.

We have created a Frankestein and this Chinese Frankenstein monster will come back and bite us on the arse.

Not too late to turn things around while China is currently overestimating her strength and we are underestimating the power that we still retain.

2001 China’s entry into the World Trade Organization.
2001 Our Nation began its irresponsible tax and spending policies that will lead to our future bankruptcy.

#1. Purchase Made in Canada, Made in Mexico, Made in USA product before you purchase a Made in China product.
Canada and Mexico are in no danger of becoming a frankenstein monster to our nation.

After that feel free to purchase a Made in Mongolia, Made in Vietnam, Made in India and Made in Japan product before you purchase a Made in China product. Till that time where the above nations do not form a future union with China

Don’t believe in boycotts?
After Obama meets the Dali Lama later this month, venture out onto Chinese websites and you will read many calls of “boycotting” USA products. Whenever tensions rise between China and foreign nation you will see this pattern. Japan in 2005…France in 2008…even with the USA as far back in spring 2001.

Purchase a Made in Canada, Made in Mexico and Made in USA product before you purchase a Frankenstein monster Made in China product. Then look for Made in Vietnam, Made in Japan, products before you purchase a Frankenstein Made in China product.

I believe that we need China to dump our bonds.

Our nation is asleep to the danger of the Frankestein Chinese monster that we have created since 2001(acceleration since 2001, process under way earlier).

China’s dumping our bonds will perhaps wake us up to the unsustainable relationship that we have developed that is sapping our nations strength and creating a Frankenstein Chinese monster.

Our nation appears to respond better to such sudden threats rather than the slow cooking process of a frog in water that is gradually turned up in temperature.

Our trade/finance polices with China are unsustainable and we cannot count on our Political and Corporate elites to pull us out of this danger.

that’s it! no more chineese food for me!

I hope I’m wrong. But it seems to me that all of our problems will ultimately culminate in war.

The Chinese military seems eager to engage and show their strength. They see us as an adversary. I suspect that things will get much uglier before they get better.

We have helped to create a future Nazi like Chinese Frankenstein monster. Fascism is China’s future and is underdevelopment right before our eyes if we care to look. Our Corporate and Political leaders are wishing this problem away.

“The discourse of race in modern China”, by Frank Dikotter
http://web.mac.com/dikotter/iWeb/Dikotter/Publications_files/Discourse%20of%20Race-3.pdf

Black Shirts in Red China?
by Michael Ledeen
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=105001682

Read a book from November 2009
“When China Rules the World”
by Martin Jacques.

Mussolini Redux
by Jasper Becker
http://www.jasperbecker.com/jb_articles.htm#mussolini

Hmm…..it seems as if we are slowly becoming the little guy who gets pushed around. its apearantthat china treathens us with our own economy…. I totally agree on uping the ante!!!

The Chinese Communist Government has already usurped U.S. global economic power, by allowing Congress to borrow trillions from China. China need only raise its interest rate on U.S. Loans or call in its loans to cripple U.S. military defense budgets. A default by U.S. Government on China loans would destroy U.S. credit ratings and the dollar globally, particularly with oil producing nations that accept U.S. Dollars. U.S. Government would have to impose higher taxes on U.S. Citizens and corporations to pay escalating interests on Chinese loans, shrinking U.S. Citizens’ discretionary income needed to buy American goods and services, resulting in greater U.S. unemployment. U.S. skyrocketing borrowing and deficit spending has run the debt ceiling past 14 Trillion, at some point that will strangle the U.S. economy. Meanwhile China is restraining its economy from expanding. The just recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission appears to put corporations at par with “natural persons”, i.e. humans eliminating limits on corporate political contributions. China can now use both its financial interests in corporations located in the U.S. and in corporations it shares interests with U.S. corporations, to both exert its influence and provide contributions to influence U.S. legislation that may affect the U.S. economy and American democracy.

Im sure China didnt buy those bonds to do us a favor. They bought them because they figured to make money. Thats interest. So if they sell them they lose the interest plus they also may take a loss on the bonds from selling early. So at the end of the day you have to ask whether it would hurt US or China?

lol… and yes….. we miss you G.W.B.

http://blog.atimes.net/?p=1352

China Dumps US Asset Backeds and Corporates
February 9th, 2010
By David Goldman

Dollar-denominated risk assets, including asset-backed securities and corporates, are no longer wanted at the State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE), nor at China’s large commercial banks. The Chinese government has ordered its reserve managers to divest itself of riskier securities and hold only Treasuries and US agency debt with an implicit or explicit government guarantee. This already has been communicated to American securities dealers, according to market participants with direct knowledge of the events.

It is not clear whether China’s motive is simple risk aversion in the wake of a sharp widening of corporate and mortgage spreads during the past two weeks, or whether there also is a political dimension. With the expected termination of the Federal Reserve’s special facility to purchase mortgage-backed securities next month, some asset-backed spreads already have blown out, and the Chinese institutions may simply be trying to get out of the way of a widening. There is some speculation that China’s action has to do with the recent deterioration of US-Chinese relations over arm sales to Taiwan and other issues. That would be an unusual action for the Chinese to take–Beijing does not mix investment and strategic policy–and would be hard to substantiate in any event.

Another country to put fear in the hearts of the scary republicans.

Saber rattling and trigger happy morons on both sides. You must have shares of Lockheed Martin to want US to wage the third war now against an organized Chinese Army. This isn’t picking off insurgents in Afgan in the comfort of your Apache.

Whenever we mention that American volunteer fighter pilots helped Chinese people fight off Japanese bombers over Shanghai & Beijing during the 1920-40, nearly all Chinese people and military personnel show gratitude and high respect towards US.
China just doesn’t like us meddling around their reunification effort with Taiwan. By selling arms to Taiwan, we are seen as breaching that trust, thus, their reaction is understandable.

How would you like to see China supplying arms to El Qaida or Taliban ?? If you feel that’s outrageous, then you begin to feel why Chinese military wants to strike back. But I am not worrying too much as the Chinese military is under the full control of their political system, and not the other way around, as we have in the US where our Defense Industry calls all the shots, pays the piper and names the tune all presidents would sing.

Hillary, the old battleaxe has threatened to cutoff China’s oil supplies…..Ha! Ha! Ha! America has run out of oil and now fights oil wars to survive.

How would you like to see China supplying arms to El Qaida or Taliban ?? samuel2

ummmmm they are doing just that,,,

Taleban ‘getting Chinese arms’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6975934.stm

鬼子暗中放冷炮，
藏独疆独凑热闹，
语不惊人死不休，
中美一战天皇笑。

“Recon, you’re an idiot. China was an ally during WWII and helped fight off Japan. The complaints here about China, sound a lot like early 20th century Brits WHINING about crappy American manufacturing and Americans stealing British technology.”

Hey buddy…. Those same “allies” in WWII were called the KMT party when they ruled China. Guess where those allies are today? TAIWAN. The KMT fled to Taiwan after Mao and his red cronies defeated them in a civil war. Look at the Chinese flag during WWII. Then take a look at the current Taiwan flag. Look similar to you?

samuel2

在您開始復仇之前旅途，開掘二個墳墓。

Wrongatlarge, the story you posed seems to me that Taliban could only buy the cheaper weapons from Pakistani military which Taliban may deal with closely. Why buy if there are already plenty of US made weaponry from Mujahadeen days?
On the same token, we should remind ourselves that most of our soldiers killed in Afganistan by roadside IEDs made from US bombs that we “supplied” to Mujahadeens to kill Russians decades ago. To me, the point of this article at hand is that we may be “pushed” to fight wars again by Defense Industry in USA, or Japan etc those who will definitely profit from our hostility towards China.

wrongatlarge: R U a Taiwanese independence supporter ?? LOL… Good luck !

There is no need to revenge historic wrongs, Japanese offsprings will repent when they know the truth, as most of them have already done so.

I will be willing to bet the Red Chinese never dreamed tha we the most powerful nation on this planet would snooker ourselves with huge debt and have the communist chuckling about how they are going to kick our fat butts…when we screw up it’s usually big time.

samuel2

you keep dreaming,,,

Interesting… If the Chinese sell the debt they hold they shoot themselves in the foot by lowering the price of the security. If they suspend purchasing US debt while continuing to net export to the US they shoot themselves in the foot by increasing the value of their currency. This mutual relationship is too interconnected to be unwound without pain on either side. It is interesting how all you Drudgers touted deficits don’t matter when your guy spent the money and now its an absolute sin. Talk about a flip-flop.

blahhhhhh,

Thanks for anwsering my question, but in a not so intelligent way. Weren’t we told every day that Iraq was going to destroy Israel before the war?

And now it’s Iran’s turn…

Read some of these books to get yourself informed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbGefi4_f-Q

Pterosaur

ummmmm the article is about war with china,,, not iraq,,, not iran,,,

iran is on another link,,,

wrongatlarge,

you are just like your name… in reading news, we should read between the lines. in guessing the world affairs, we should know the root cause.

in this China issue, the background is about boycotting Iran, like other guys on this board have also observed. but I would suggest a deeper root cause, that’s all about controlling this world oil and therefore the world.

In the first explanation, it seems like it’s Israel who is using the US for protection. but in the second explanation, it would be more like the US(neo-con) is using Israel for its world domination through oil control. In any case, the face explanation that we see on the media is only for fools.

fuck you reuters assholes from deleting my earlier posts before i even finish

Chinese military are weaklings. I pray they find the stones and do so. If they don’t we should selectively default of Chinese held treasuries for all the intellectual property theft they have done. while we are at it, let’s sell nucs to Taiwan. We need to wake up. The war has begun !

All those comments are childish one sided and lack of objectivity. How would you react if China was selling arms to Porto Rico?
Besides, when you stop buying China products, who’s going to profit? Africa and South America of course, and don’t forget that all the americans companies that are already there. What do you plan to do with them, sent them to India as well? And the European will be swift to replace them.
It is no wonder that that you people are not even aware that you are already living under a totalitarian regime.
Wake up bunch of fool and haarped brain.

Most of you are completely clueless. All this tough talk reveals a complete lack of understanding of how screwed the US is right now.

If the US were to default on any of its debt, or impose strict tariffs, it would completely destroy the domestic economy, probably for good. No foreign nation would trust our currency or our government, the cost for everything would dramatically rise, and even American multi-national companies would flee US workers and just set up shop elsewhere.

Many of you are also ignorant about Taiwan. China was an American ally during WWII against Japan, the KMT party then went to Taiwan, and the KMT party in Taiwan now is extremely pro-China and pro-reunification.

Most of you are completely clueless. All this tough talk reveals a complete lack of understanding of how screwed the US is right now.

If the US were to default on any of its debt, or impose strict tariffs, it would completely destroy the domestic economy, probably for good. No foreign nation would trust our currency or our government, the cost for everything would dramatically rise, and even American multi-national companies would flee US workers and just set up shop elsewhere.

Many of you are also ignorant about Taiwan. China was an American ally during WWII against Japan, the KMT party then went to Taiwan, and the KMT party in Taiwan now is extremely pro-China and pro-reunification.

Not to mention what would happen if China dumped the Treasury it already owns, America’s collapse is imminent if China stops buying MORE of these junks.

America should just be an isolationist again. Then we’d stop all the importing and outsourcing…which by the way is actually an impediment to our energy revolution.

If you’ve ever studied entropy and energy degradation in physics, you’d know we need solar technology to convert the crap we produce back into something with potential to not be crap. This includes garbage recycling–which is the actual issue when it comes to sustainability. If our production is sent elsewhere, we can’t develop solar to improve efficiency for plants that aren’t in our borders can we?

There’s nothing wrong with being a quiet nation is there? Except maybe we’d have to give up our pride…

FYI:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35332965

CNP
Not sure if you are really a crazy Chinese national or just some Tea-Bagger trying to stir up anti-Chinese feelings. Thanks for your opinions … i dont agree with them but i read them anyway. Now, I am sure that each time you posted you realize that you willingly participated in what makes American better then China. Free speech.

tacowrap,

Isolationisme is an extreme view and you know as much as everybody else that most Americans don’t want it.

The solution to all the problems America is facing is actually quite simple: “Stop the ambition to dominate the world.” And live peacefully in this global village.

But this wouldn’t be an easy solution either. As you know as much as everybody else, the US has full of people who do not care about the interests of the US, but their own personal interests and those of their country of origine: The Indians will outsource all american high-end jobs, the Israelis will pressure on the US to spend billions to bomb the hell out of Iran, etc…

So the outlook is not so optimistic!

Pterosaur,,, you are a conspiracy nut,,,

and how does that prevent china world domination???

and how does that prevent terrorislam world domination???

americans do not want war,,, but they will not run from it either,,,

so if you want to dance,,, dance,,,

if you are feeling froggy,,, leap,,,

It is a settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute. The United States, while they wish for war with no nation, will buy peace with none. PRESIDEN JAMES MADISON

US military budget is over 700 billion. Truly China’s raising of their military budget to 70 billion is no threat to us. It is most likely that they were going to raise their budget to that anyway and are using this as political muscle to try and intimidate the United States.

If they start selling our bonds, then they will lose because the rest of their bond holdings will plummet. This is in the design though. We sell expensive bonds, have the markets crash and buy our debt back on the cheap. Simply brilliant.

One thing we cannot do is to make good on US bonds. That is called defaulting on your debt and we would lose our AAA international credit rating, which would hurt our country much more in the long run.

@Blah and all that kind

You can say whatever you want really.
In the end, you dont make the decisions, I dont make the decisions. Obama and Hujintao make the decisions.
I REASON with those who are reasonable. I’m against extreme and stubborn Americans just like you. So I always say 卧槽泥马勒戈壁 to you kind. Like many Chinese will tell extreme Japs to go f**k themselves back and forth.
You can feel all sitting on top of the world as you wish, I mentioned that from the very beginning, your asses are freezing to death yet you are still smoking weed. Seriously, have fun with that,
You are all frustrated coz someone you can bully b4 dont take up the bully anymore.
Fact is fact, get ready to be kicked in the nuts for a long time.
Finally, 卧槽泥马勒戈壁，煞笔霉国佬。For y’all who can read.
中国同胞们奋斗吧，只有我们的奋斗才能让这些250们认识到现实！

wrongatlarge就是一只反华的疯狗，好像在哪儿见过这个傻逼玩意儿，估计他妈被共产党强奸过，留下阴影了。别说，这种煞笔玩意儿还挺他妈可爱

CNP

chinese have small man syndrome,,, it will cost them dearly,,,

what china really needs is another cultural revolution,,, to make all the chinese equal again,,, right comrade,,,

btw,,, you sound frustrated,,, i can understand your frustration,,, since there are so few women in china now,,,

wrongatlarge,

“how does that prevent china world domination???” The US is still spending more than the next 10 military budgets combined. Even if it cuts this colosal budget by half, no country in this world would even dare to challenge the US on its soil.

That, I would call, PARANOIA. You can spend a trillion dollar or more, that wouldn’t fix your concern. Worse, it would push your imagination become a reality, just as the US domination policy has pushed China much closer to Russia and Iran.

So, instead, you should spend only $200 to a shrink to fix your problem.

wrongatlarge被中国人菊暴过？菊花缝针了吧？真可怜，现在天天跟老黑在一起

pushed China much closer to Russia and Iran Pterosaur

hahaha so china is admitting that the usa can push it around,,, lol,,, too funny,,,

china has no friends,,, only mutual enemies,,,

ummmmm did you happen to notice that nobody wants to move to china,,, and look at all the chinese that want to leave china,,, hahaha

CNP

you have lost all face,,,

shame on you,,, talking about a persons mother,,, obviously your mother did not raise you right,,,

wrongatlarge,

so you face your very unpleasant and unexpected(actually more or less expected) situation with a laughter?

then you will have some more laughters if the US keeps pushing or more exactly bullying others around.

傻逼atlarge
每天领轮子的工资不容易吧？
中国人看见你这号的早就踩死了，老外也不把你当个玩意儿，为啥？你就不是个东西
不是东西的东西，哎，你活着有鸟毛意思啊？
当年真该把你射到墙上

Pterosaur

ummmmmm it is china that is the bully,,,

Q+A: What does China’s indictment of the Rio four mean?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6192SC20100210

China indicts Rio staff for bribery, commercial secrets
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6191QZ20100210

china really stepped in it this time,,,

put a fork in china,,, it is done,,,

nobody will want to do business with them now,,,

can you say trumprd up charges,,, sure you can,,, lol

can you say kangaroo court,,, sure you can,,, hahaha

china’s legal system is a sham,,,

Kangaroo courts are sham legal proceedings which are set-up in order to give the impression of a fair legal process. In fact, they offer no impartial justice as the verdict, invariably to the detriment of the accused, is decided in advance.

CNP

美國將遞漢語他們的臀部

傻逼atlarge,脑子确实有点脑溢屎，你丫连个TRANSLATER都不会找个好点的？去找个好点的，乖孙儿

wrongatlarge,

sorry for you… poor…

CNP

Sorry, but it is you who really doesn’t know much about the world. You also don’t know much about economics. You only say that the USA is going down and China is rising, but you don’t say how.
China has problems:
1. Rising inflation
2. A huge housing bubble that started in the cities like Beijing and Shanghai but is now stretching to the smaller cities.
3. A growing backlash against Chinese protectionism; this is a backlash that is global.
4 Crashing business confidence due to illegal actions such as arresting the Rio tinto guy and attacking google.
5. China needs an 8 percentage rise in GDP every year to keep the masses happy. This was said by your own leaders. 8 percent can’t continue forever, and when inflation kicks in more, people will be even more discontent. People are already unhappy about the housing prices.
6. economic inequality. I don’t think I met one person who isn’t concerned about this.
7. the years of pollution will catch up with China’s GDP. Pollution in the rivers and land will take off points from future GDP, since china will have to spend to clean it up.

In the meantime, there is no alternative to the US dollar as a reserve currency. We can use gold, but didn’t we try that before. The EU is in worse shape than the US, and the Euro is not such a sure thing anymore. The RMB is valued to the dollar and nobody wants that until China raises its value. The Yen has never been a possibility.

It really is the most radical, racist chinese people who post on western webpages. I hope more western people see CNP’s post. This is the kind of people you deal with when you are dealing with China. I would rather invest in a more civilized nation.

OK, let’s have a mutual trade embargo and see who cries “uncle” first. We lose cheap WalMart type crap from China, they lose a huge percentage of their GNP.

CNP

美國狗在中國腿將小便，但是中國人不會吃美國狗，美國狗將吃中國人

Pterosaur, CNP

Two chinese guys that only know how to spew nationalist rhetoric and stereotypes. Good luck in life. But thanks for showing us chinese mentality. I hope more western people stop thinking that chinese people are modest and kind and start realizing how racist and uncultured some of you are.

By the way, Reuters should know that 傻逼 is a swear word. The comments that use this word should be erased according to your rules.

blahhhhhh

as if anybody would feel safe holding large amounts of RMB if it was unpegged from the usa dollar,,,

they run the country like a crime family,,,

BenFranklin,

Exactly, I don’t think the Chinese realize that the only reason they have money now is because we opened our markets to Chinese goods. In fact, they owe everything to us, but they are now trying to bite that hand that fed it for over 15 years. That is why I don’t like china anymore. They are ungrateful and greedy.

Their media is full of lies and manipuulations. They constantly talk about US rising trade protectionism, but what they don’t realize is that the US was open to them for 15 years while china was closed. It is, in fact, China who has been the economic imperialist, protectionist. Now, I hope Obama fights back at China’s backwards policies.

Another thing is that their media always says that the US and other western nations are forcing China to raise their currency value and it is bad for china. What they don’t say is that if they raise the value of the RMB, china’s market will be bigger, the economy will be bigger, and chinese can buy more. If chinese knew the truth, they would be pushing for the RMB rise as well. But inflation will kick in eventually, and china will have no choice in the end.

I buy from China by the container load, too. Like you, I’d just shift to India, and China would suffer a Great Depression. People who think China has the upper hand are not engaged in international trade, and don’t know squat. I wish the Chinese people well, and hope they get democracy soon. Free Tibet!

BenFranklin,

You don’t even have to switch to India. In fact, most high quality, cheap products come from South America. Thailand is also competing with China. The fact that the Chinese think they are the only ones shows how ignorant some of them are. If they become too arrogant, there are other nations the US and the EU can open up to. In fact, I hope this is Obama’s plan.

The saber rattling economic illiterates in the PLA don’t realize that their paycheck and ammo comes from money made by making stuff for America. India is only slightly more expensive. China would go broke without American trade, but America would just pay a little more to buy from India. I know because I buy from China and it wouldn’t take much to make me shift to India.

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Should America default on its loans, China will have more to lose.

Capitalism owned by communism…what a disgrace we have become!

LaidBackFarmer

China is a capitalist country with a fascist government. Communism was never fully implimented in any nation.

for some reason I read through all of these comments, and with the exception of blahhhhh and couple others, I was disgusted by the comments from pretty much, everyone pro and anti china alike

If NATO, which includes N. America and the EU, decided to boycott Chinese goods they would go back to being a self sustained economy which is pre 1970’s.
They aren’t thinking.
We have to safe guard our new technology better so it doesn’t get ripped off and pirated under the guise of legit international corps.

Blahhhh

No offense, but all Chinese are not like someone here.
You can read Chinese, so I think you can understand the real words
posted by common Chinese at well-known Chinese portals such as www.qq.com,
www.163.com, www.sina.com.cn. Especially at www.163.com, where “Westerns must be
been looking on us as we are looking on North Korea”, “US is
the hope of human kind” (or “Google is the hope of Internet” today
about Google’s 1G network) being most supported is very common. Although
basically for fun and blowing off, it does show what’s inside a common Chinese
mind. Not that racial.

BTW, it’s a little uncomfortable to be classified as pro-CCP radicals.I don’t
believe in the so called Chinese style socialist, nor do most Chinese
born after 1980.

Yes, capitalism has ever been fully implimented. Ask if any gov has never interfered with MARKET. Chuckles Uni Master Degree rules.

alpaca

I never said all chinese are like the uneducated, racist called CNP.

I have lived most of my adult life in China. There are, however, many, many people like CNP. Of course, there are also many who have more knowledge about the world and understand the intricacies of it. I wish more of those people would comment here instead of disgusting people like CNP.

Funny to see drowning dogz barking helplessly.

alpaca

And if you are chinese, you shouldn’t be attacking me; you should be attacking CNP since he is the one giving chinese a bad name on a western webpage.

Reuters should be aware that whenever CNP is writing anything in Chinese, it usually has a lot of dirty words. In fact, most of his comments are just insults, because he has no facts to back up his opinions.

CNP

美國狗在中國腿將小便，但是中國人不會吃美國狗，美國狗將吃中國人

alpaca
我本来都不想跟你说什么了
你自己仔细看看这么高的楼吧，我的留言从100多楼开始，我也记不清哪一楼了，你看看我的第一个留言之前的留言，你觉得那些美国人对咱们的敌意能消除么？他们就是看着你起来了，他们落下来了他们不爽，这么简单的道理你不明白？你以前的穷邻居突然开宝马，有钱了，你现在却要把你自己的法拉利卖了来还房贷，勉强过日，你能高兴么？
qq163sina我天天上，谷歌的新闻在这些网上从来没有说网友一边倒向谷歌的，因为大多人都还是在用百度，我也喜欢谷歌，但是这次他的行动确实很愚蠢。你看看谷歌自己现在的反应你就知道了。
我骂那些该骂的，和可以讲道理的人讲道理，你觉得和这群天天恨不得中国明天就从世界上消失的人讲道理可能吗？狗能改了吃屎么？
如果你是民运独或者轮子的话，那就算了，但如果你是大陆人民或者留学生之类的，不管今天还是明天，你总要明白西方社会对我们的敌意，是很难解决的，这些人不看见你的国家（共产主义）彻底消亡他们是不会消停的。
中国人再不团结的话我们该怎么办？你可以觉得我在骂这些人傻逼的行为不太好，但是你去妄图改变这些个别的傻x对中国的看法那是枉然的。这篇帖子已经是老帖了，这些仍然在里面讨论的老外，10个有9个都得归类到这个傻x的行列

Actually, I clicked on Report As Abusive when I was going on duty this morning, but they are still there. Maybe because they’re off duty now in the western hemisphere?

CNP

youe sure chastised your fellow countryman,,, you must be so proud,,,

have you found your face yet??

I reason with human.
For dogz, I just kick them in the nuts really fast and really hard so they start barking really loud.

‘Reuters should be aware that whenever CNP is writing anything in Chinese, it usually has a lot of dirty words. In fact, most of his comments are just insults, because he has no facts to back up his opinions. ‘

Blah是人类

It’s your freedom to think of me as anyone, CNP. But the truth is always there. Don’t like to talk with the rude. Won’t respond any more whaterver you say.

Feb 11, 2010 12:43am ESTI reason with human.
For dogz, I just kick them in the nuts really fast and really hard so they start barking really loud. CNP

good luck with that,,, your friends will call you gimpy,,,

when the american dog takes your leg off,,, hahaha

道不同不相为谋，如果你愿意盲目的去亲美，那么随你的便咯，只是作为一个中国人，你真的没什么民族的大义

CNP

“Blah, 你个洋鬼子挺他妈的可怜的，你在中国过，你觉得中国人对西方仇视，你长了个白脸皮儿，你敢对那些中国人说什么吗？你只要敢说，他们能活拆了你。所以你觉得你说的东西有意思么？你活着有意思么？当然，如果你现在活在美国还无所谓，你活在中国的话你不是很凄惨，想说的都不敢说。有什么意思啊？为什么不去自杀呢？我骂你，那是活该，不骂你，那叫悲哀！你懂中文~来懂吧~”

You have just proven all my points about you. You have no argument. You are just a baby trying to insult someone you don’t even know.

I have met many foreigners in China who go home with the knowledge that Chinese people are racist, xenophobic, and rude. Many africans, south Americans and south Asians among them. In fact, I will also spread the world about chinese racism. It doesn’t matter what you think of us. What matters is what we think of you.

You think you are being funny and smart, but you are actually losing face for all chinese people whether they agree with you or not.

Blah, you called me a racist. Can you do me a favor quoting what I posted that qualifies me as such?

Maybe a racist calls an anti-racist a racist also? ;-)

Blah
Yeah you can spread anything, you can even spread terrorism if you want. Well, thats in USA. So I dont really give a *** about that you know. You are spreading and we are working, yeah, thats good. Yeah right I’m racist, kinda curious what you are. For hints, look up my previous comments.

You care about what I do but I dont even remotely care what you do, like that old dying Dalai can have all the show jumping up and down but he can not give those BS to Chinese and Tibetan, but you all believe in that BS. Hope you know why. Its just sad, almost feel sry for you if you are not…you know.

Guess less than 50 people (maybe even less) are viewing these comments now. That gives me the groud to tear of some posers’ ugly face.

For Blah only.
Whenever I see poser like you, I duck my head lower, not because that I’m shy, just because I’m looking for a brick.

CNP: You’re serving up a lot of bigotry, but offering no proposed solutions. I see you have typed over 50 messages on here over two days.
Thanks for demonstrating you have no life or purpose. Congratulations..I guess…

Dear Americans with a conscience, please wake up ,ask the homeless and evicted in your country if your ego is not big enough to dictate peace while you sell war? Its not too late to hate being stupid instead of believing your superior? good luck with that??

blahhhhhh seems to be representative of many Westerners in China now: they may speak the language, but at their core are closet racist xenophobes who still harbor deep-seated Anglo White supremacist beliefs.

If a war ever happens in the future, it will be because of bigots like blahhhh who would rather start war than take a peaceful fall to #2 for the US.

racist xenophobes? who? the usa??? obama is….what mixed races again?
we’re talking the most racially diverse country in the world.
stick to the topic there ChiCom

to blackpagoda,

I am a supporter of Obama as well. I believe at the core, he is not anti-China. however, judged on his actions, he is not in control of his own fate, not to mention his actions. In this country, the lobby and some interest groups, esp. the arm industry, the neo-cons, and some other “minority” group are just too power that they actually dictate the policy of the US.

Poor Americans, there is no future for them as every interest group is trying the rip off this country.

War is one clear example. Another is the health care reform, an obvious choice for a common American. Third is finance industry reform. The decision of all these good initiatives are dictated by the interest groups.

America will go down …

blackpagoda,

It is funny, isn’t it? Chinese in China will yell really loud in Chinese talking about how ugly black people are or how Indians supposedly smell. They will say bad things about chinese who hangout with other foreigners. My roommate was even attacked by a chinese guy because his wife is Asian (not even chinese but Thai). The list goes on of racist incidents in china, and the only ones who don’t think china is a racist, xenophobic country are the chinese who have been brainwashed into thinking the chinese are the nicest people in the world.

As for Texas4. what is he talking about? White sepremacy? I think he grew up in the 60 or something. obama is the president now. Blacks are scientists, writers, politicians, lawyers, etc. etc etc. The US has problems, but nothing compared to China’s racism against tibetans or xinjiang people. China also has a discrimination problem where beijingers hate hebei people or shanghai people look down on everyone else. This texas4 guy doesn’t have a clue, but i am assuming he is either a chinese in disguise, or a simpathetic American who has never actually been to china or lived in China.

He is right about one thing, though. Foreigners in China get fed up with chinese racism and xenophobia. china is one of the least friendly nations to foreigners. Then they wonder why we don’t like them; they call us and our friends names, attack foreigners, etc etc. and then they expect us to like them still. Why should foreigners respect chinese when chinese have no respect for anyone? This is why I think China has not future. Foreign investments will move to a more foreign-friendly nation.