Obama dominates the room at healthcare summit

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cjjn wrote:

That was the whole point of Obama’s healthcare summit. To manipulate people again silly. With little to no real work and no sweat or blood for this country to show during his presidency it’s time for an all talk forum.

Remember during the economic collapse in 2008, John McCain wanted to postpone an upcoming presidential debate so he and Obama, two sitting U.S. senators, could go back to Washington to do their jobs as senators and “bring” people together and stop ruling democrats Pelosi, Franks and Reid from putting whatever they wanted into the rescue bill they were creating?

Obama refused to go back to Washington to do his job and instead held up a forum where he could present all talk to manipulate people into giving him what he wanted.

Obama wouldn’t go back and do his job as a U.S. senator, holding one crucial vote of only 99 votes when the economy collapsed during that time because he knew his little to no work and lack of accomplishments as a senator wouldn’t get him what he wanted (elected).

So here we go again. Same behavior. Same Pattern. He can’t get your support based on the little to no work that he has actually performed as president and the absolutely NO real sweat or blood that he has shed for this country, so now it’s time for an all talk manipulation forum.

At the forum, McCain confronted Obama about Obama’s lies to the American people when he said he would originally make the healthcare debate bi-partisan and open the process to C-span. Which never happened as it was vvery partisan, all democrat, no republican or idenependent, fully corrupt and fraught with bribes and kickbacks using taxpayer money. Obama implied those were talking points. McCain should have told Obama, “NO, Those are the words of the American people.” But at least John McCain had the courage to bring the concerns and disgust of the American people into that meeting so people who are disgusted with Obamna’s lies can have a voice and be heard.

Obama went on to say the election is over. Who doesn’t know that? What does that mean? It means it’s time for Obama to start twisting people’s attention spans away from his lies and failures. He wants you to leave those at the door. Don’t dare bring those to him. The promises of C-span cameras, transparency, bi-partisan negotations promises that he made and then never followed through with was a campaign tactic. Ha! The campaign is over so you shouldn’t expect what he said on the campaign trail. No kidding, I can’t even count the lies from Obama on my two hands.

Feb 25, 2010 7:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AlexMiddle wrote:

Sadly the American people lose out. Nothing gets done. Republicans want President Obama to fail. Republicans get back into power. Democrats block everything causing the republican president to fail, and the cycle continues. There was a solution to the Health Care overall. Republicans are to be blamed for casting a public option as takeover of the health care industry. Democrats to blame for being dismissive of sensible Republican input. People are without heath care. At the end of the day it was all about politics and power, and not about the American people. The media says the bill is rejected by the people, but they themselves (the media) have not read it (Hannity for e.g.)

Feb 25, 2010 9:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Aurora322 wrote:

Wow, cjjn could not be more wrong.

They had the economic summit. Both McCain and Obama attended. The difference? After his stunt, McCain had nothing to say. My source? Republican appointee Ben Bernanke.

I guess if you don’t like the facts, you can just make up new ones.

Feb 25, 2010 9:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
simpleguy_usa wrote:

Really, does no one in USA see that the economy did not collapse when McCain wanted to rush back to the Senate during elections. It collapsed due to EIGHT consecutive years of incorrect policies pursued by an incapable government.

Forget Democrat and Republican parties. Wouldn’t US citizens root for USA as a country?

Feb 25, 2010 10:22pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dave1 wrote:

USA in the only major Western country WITHOUT universal health care. USA pays almost DOUBLE what Canadians do for health care. A Medicare-for-All approach, makes universal health care affordable because it SAVES about $400 billion in administrative costs every year. Also, a Medicare-for-All approach COLLECTS premiums from young healthy people to offset the health costs that occur later in their life. (Currently, the insurance companies collect premiums and the taxpayers pay the the costs)

Feb 25, 2010 11:28pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Okie wrote:

simpleguy-usa — they economy crashed, not because of the Bush Administration – but because of the lending policies enacted by the Clinton administration to make sure everyone could buy a home regardles of their ability to repay the bank loan.

Feb 25, 2010 11:30pm EST  --  Report as abuse
cjjn wrote:

Aurora322, you need to do some more reasearch. And your attention span is pathetic. Obama never went back to Washington to do his job as a sitting U.S. senator at the time I mentioned when the economy first collapsed and the market tanked. He went to be on tv at the presidential debate so he could lie to everyone and tell them all he will deliver them to the promise land even though he KNOWS he has no accomplishments, qualifications or experience with the grand statements that he promoted.

John McCain went back in 2008 and did a lot of good by putting a huge spotlight on all the wasteful pet project money that was being shoved into the first rescue bill by people like Barney Franks, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Franks was upset McCain came back and made the statement they “don’t need John McCain” there to pass a rescue bill or address the economic collapse. But when it came close to a vote they didn’t have enough Republican support to pass Democrat’s Christmas list full of goodies that addressed all their wants and desires with taxpayer money everything except how to really fix the economy. Democrats didn’t have a huge majority at that time so they couldn’t ram the first draft of their “rescue” bill down America’s throats like the did the later stimulus bills so they needed Republican votes. But guess what? They didn’t have enough. Huh! I thought Barney Franks said the corrupt legislation was already going to pass and they didn’t need McCain.

The American people definitely needed their senators, who chose to go and do their job somewhat like McCain, there to put a spotlight on the ridiculous expenditures being planned with tax payer money had that first draft of the rescue bill been passed.

Then turns out weasel Bush was allowing economist agendas to perpetrate the rescue plans, propping up Goldman Sach’s with rescue money, as well as AIG who owed a lot of money to Goldman Sachs, while watching as firms like Lehman’s brothers, a competitor of Goldman Sach’s collapsed. Is it any wonder that now Bush and now Obama even more so is surrounded current and former by Goldman Sach’s operatives like Tim Geithner, Hank Paulson, Mark Patterson and many others?

Maybe if Obama would have done more of his Job to gain experience and become accomplished with real world things instead of just being interested in being on tv and, as he stated in his writings, something like “loving the feeling of hearing his voice bounce off the crowd and back to him.”

I guess when your attention span sucks Aurora322, you can either investigate to get the facts or do what you did and make things up and call people wrong because they don’t cater to your manipulations and your need to be right in your head and wrong with the facts.

It’s 8 years of economic failures led with by people who had the most clout like Clinton, Bush, Obama and pathetic voters that keep electing un-qualified people as president because of superficial mentalities that scream “they lie so much and I like it”, “they’re so popular”, “he’s cute”, “he’s younger”, “he’s whiter”, “he’s blacker.”

simpleguy_usa, I’ll agree with your last statement, “root for USA as a country.”

But what does that mean? To me it means stop the liars, manipulators and all other people who deny people reasonable lives by attempting to implement logical fallacies to promote their own personal agenda by confusing people who don’t know how or are too lazy to use brain power and learn how to gather facts, and use reason when making decisions.

Feb 26, 2010 12:02am EST  --  Report as abuse
mrobert42 wrote:

it was abundantly clear that in terms
of substance and knowledge of the issues
forming the basis for the health care
debate that whether you agree or disagree
with the president and notwithstanding
some of the valid points made by republicans, the President knows the
material better than all the republicans
put together…and Mitch McConnell is
an empty suit

Feb 26, 2010 2:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
cashman57 wrote:

I have watched a lot of government meetings and this one was by far the most boring and least productive in memory.Is “0″ really trying to look like a fool?

Feb 26, 2010 5:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
chowza wrote:

Woe is Us — even in the comments here, all I read are democrat vs. republican finger-pointing and zero compromise, which is precisely why nothing is getting done in Washington. Wake up folks — it is you that is what’s killing the system, just as your state and federal representatives are. Where did common sense and a desire to help fellow citizens disappear to in this country?

Feb 26, 2010 6:36am EST  --  Report as abuse
Keith1227 wrote:

it is ridiculously disappointing that our voted representatives, both republicans AND democrats, cannot get together on anything in general and health care specifically.

My family cannot afford the nearly $500/mo healthcare we want to get, so we settle for a $250/mo discount plan. 2 years ago that plan was $130/mo. I have considered going without, because the cost for what we get is ridiculous.

Something needs to be done.

Feb 26, 2010 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
Dave1 wrote:

Americans are generally disgusted with both parties at this point. It is clear there is a problem. USA in the only major Western country WITHOUT universal health care. Both parties are trying to position themselves for re-election. Neither party is representing the best interests of the American people who elected them.

The underlying problem is that both Republicans and Democrat parties are beholden to special interests that have funded and WILL fund their re-election campaigns. As a result, both parties represent insurance companies interests. Neither party can afford to do what is best for the American people.

Americans want cheaper health care. USA pays almost DOUBLE what Canadians do for health care. The ONLY way to dramatically reduce costs is to remove the insurance companies from health care system. Doctors treat patients and the only thing insurance companies do is collect money for providing no service at all! The result would be a Medicare-for-All approach to health care!

A Medicare-for-All approach to health care would SAVE about $400 billion in administrative costs every year. Although that is significant, it is not the major cost savings. A Medicare-for-All approach would COLLECT premiums from young healthy people to offset the health costs that occur later in their life! (Currently, the insurance companies collect those premiums and the TAXPAYERS pay those the costs)!

Feb 26, 2010 2:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Dave1 wrote:

Americans are generally disgusted with both parties at this point. It is clear there is a problem. USA in the only major Western country WITHOUT universal health care. Both parties are trying to position themselves for re-election. Neither party is representing the best interests of the American people who elected them.

The underlying problem is that both Republicans and Democrat parties are beholden to special interests that have funded and WILL fund their re-election campaigns. As a result, both parties represent insurance companies interests. Neither party can afford to do what is best for the American people.

Americans want cheaper health care. USA pays almost DOUBLE what Canadians do for health care. The ONLY way to dramatically reduce costs is to remove the insurance companies from health care system. Doctors treat patients and the only thing insurance companies do is collect money for providing no service at all! The result would be a Medicare-for-All approach to health care!

A Medicare-for-All approach to health care would SAVE about $400 billion in administrative costs every year. Although that is significant, it is not the major cost savings. A Medicare-for-All approach would COLLECT premiums from young healthy people to offset the health costs that occur later in their life! (Currently, the insurance companies collect those premiums and the TAXPAYERS pay those the costs)!

Feb 26, 2010 3:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fred5407 wrote:

I think Mr. Obama was the real problem in this meeting. I think he should have offered to rewite the bill with input from both parties, plus input from the people and the medical community. It is pretty amazing what can be done when you get all the parties working together. I don’t think Mr. Obama knows how to work together with people.

Feb 26, 2010 3:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
allenw wrote:

Alex’s claim that Clinton was to blame for the meltdown is contradicted by an AP review of documents that you can find by Googling “Bush officials delayed crackdown”. The article states that the Bushies relaxed mortgage lending rules and in the process they “ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown.”

And if you look at Politifact’s rating of Obama’s top 25 campaign promises, you’ll find that they only rate one as broken and almost all of them as being on track or accomplished, contrary to Okie’s false claim about Obama’s many “lies”.

Alex and Okie are Republican propagandists, simply repeating false Limbaugh dittohead talking points.

Feb 26, 2010 4:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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