U.N. climate talks on knife edge as Bolivia slams rich

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tangogo68 wrote:

Does anyone seriously think that these diplomats and politicians have any other collective goal than deferring-delaying-deleting-destroying any move towards actual progress in averting the catastrophe that will envelop the coming generations ?

Dec 08, 2010 7:20pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ROWnine wrote:

Envoirnmental controls in these “poor” countries is a win win proposition. The resources being harvested SHOULD help keep the toxins out of their air and water and the replacement of renewable resources and abatement residual of mine damage will create jobs in thier economies that support other bussiness growth. The increased product cost keeps the preditory nature of consumers from jumping from one poor country to the next and if these laws are international maybe permits can be withheld to enforce the clean up and complience process to benefit all of us. The cost to clean up of the air, water and earth should not be the burden of governments but instead the consumer and since the international entities hide behind whatever nation states laws make enforcement the least likely it may be fairer to go after the countries that make nonresponsability more likely then the countries who have good laws but enforcement may be impossible due to trade agreements!

Dec 08, 2010 9:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Panther695823 wrote:

Does anyone think the reason the earth is heating up is because the sun is getting hotter? I think all this climate talk is just a way for the rich to get richer and the poor, well who cares about the poor right?

Dec 08, 2010 10:19pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Joe200011 wrote:

People are certainly a part of the reason for climate change BUT, only a very small part.

The main cause (85%) of climate change is a weaskening of the magnetosphere concurrent with an approximately 25-year cycle of increased solar radiation emanating from the sun. The increased solar radiation presses the magnetosphere closer to the surface of our planet – the net effect – the warming of the upper atmosphere and a change in the direction that the winds blow.

We lose about 50 cubic miles of Antarctic ice cap – annually – and we have done so for the past six years. Would that the damage stopped there. But alas, it isn’t. The Andean, Himalayan glaciers, the Greenland ice cap, the Alpine ice fields, etc……

Everything will be gone by 2030.

The antarctic landmass will reappear – probably next summer. Water wars will begin in South America and Central Asia – probably next summer.

A new type of refugee will be created – environmental refugees – billions of them – most will perish.

Climate change will considerably increase the ocean depths and inundate all coastal areas on the planet within a decade. Republicans will deny that global warming exists until Washington is under 20 feet of water. Then, it will mysteriously become Obama’s fault.

Dec 08, 2010 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Joe200011 wrote:

People are certainly a part of the reason for climate change BUT, only a very small part.

The main cause (85%) of climate change is a weaskening of the magnetosphere concurrent with an approximately 25-year cycle of increased solar radiation emanating from the sun. The increased solar radiation presses the magnetosphere closer to the surface of our planet – the net effect – the warming of the upper atmosphere and a change in the direction that the winds blow.

We lose about 50 cubic miles of Antarctic ice cap – annually – and we have done so for the past six years. Would that the damage stopped there. But alas, it isn’t. The Andean, Himalayan glaciers, the Greenland ice cap, the Alpine ice fields, etc……

Everything will be gone by 2030.

The antarctic landmass will reappear – probably next summer. Water wars will begin in South America and Central Asia – probably next summer.

A new type of refugee will be created – environmental refugees – billions of them – most will perish.

Climate change will considerably increase the ocean depths and inundate all coastal areas on the planet within a decade. Republicans will deny that global warming exists until Washington is under 20 feet of water. Then, it will mysteriously become Obama’s fault.

Dec 08, 2010 11:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jobon1 wrote:

How do scientists know what the temperature of the earth was in various locations in pre-industrial times? I’ve always wondered this. Of course they can speculate, but we’re talking about a mean temperature increase of only a few degrees, right? Is this the reason why the data-sets are all over the map, that this is pure speculation?

Dec 09, 2010 12:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BHOlied wrote:

@jobon1,
its speculation for sure. the global environment is extremely complex and speculation is the name of the game…

Dec 09, 2010 1:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DanToronto wrote:

It is the height of hypocrisy for Bolivia’s leader to attack other countries for their climate change policies. Bolivia is a major producer of natural gas, a fossil fuel,and it wants to increase aggressively its exports of this greenhouse gas source. Bolivia proves that Third World countries can be just as cynical and irresponsible as industrialized countries such as the USA and Canada, or emerging industrial countries such as China.

Dec 09, 2010 2:31pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Gotthardbahn wrote:

Hooray for Bolivia! As if any further evidence was required of the madness of these climate change ‘talks’, along comes the Bolivian leader foaming at the mouth about capitalism and ‘climate crimes’. Keep at it, Evo! Make it clear to everyone that these fraudulent climate talks are just a cover for looting the West and then maybe, just maybe, this whole climate change scam will go away, hopefully forever.

Dec 09, 2010 2:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
hedagi wrote:

Hope that Bolivia’s is just grandstanding (as expected)

Dec 09, 2010 4:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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