S.C. protesters disrupt Michele Bachmann speech

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PessimistNJ wrote:

How many of these protesters will be the 1%er’s in twenty years. How many of todays 1%er’s were protesters of the 60′s. Its great they are bringing this to a point so perhaps its helping. I just look at how many of todays CEO’s and corporate executives were the protesting in the sixties wanting peace and love. The problem is after their college days they sold out amreica becoming far worse and uncaring compared to the MAN they were rallying against…. bottom line the sixties peace and love generations. Become the biggest sell out in the last 100 years.

Nov 10, 2011 3:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
hereiam2005 wrote:

@PessimistNJ Perhaps would you be so kind to entertain us by pointing out exactly who are the “todays 1%er’s [that] were protesters of the 60′s” instead of throwing out hanging questions?

Nov 10, 2011 5:43pm EST  --  Report as abuse
mjp1958 wrote:

Bachmann should hang it up. She has no chance to become president. Michelle, think about running as an Independent, why don’t you?

Nov 10, 2011 5:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
barrydevil wrote:

obama’s protestors.

Nov 10, 2011 6:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse

@PessimistNJ After you have regaled us with some names of former 60′s protesters who are now ‘The Man’ you can further enlighten us how becoming The Man instead of whining about The Man’s authority and influence is such a bad thing.
You are quite correct. Many of the folks who were stand out celebrities of the 60′s Peace and Love movement did eventually mature and became that which they had been protesting. You see darling, one can effect change from the inside much more easily than from shouting from the outside. Of course one cannot discount the influence of maturing and gathering wisdom having an observable affect on one’s demeanor.

Nov 10, 2011 6:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
saa001 wrote:

This wasn’t the first amendment at work, this was a group of people attempting to censor someone else.

So far the OWS group has been nothing but a bunch of bullies who throw temper tantrums when they don’t get their way.

Nov 10, 2011 7:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
whiteflash wrote:

So did Pat Hemberger run a resume check upon their departure? Not one of them pays taxes and parents paying for their educations… quite the blanket statement.

And I’m sorry since when did people get lambasted for their parents assisting in a post high-school education. I’m 25 and have spent my whole life being told I need a piece of paper… the marketplace told me I’m supposed to get a piece of paper. And you’re ridiculing them because a 19yo gets help from their parents for a 40-100k education? God these clowns look ignorant.

Signed,
A 60K/Yr earner, tax payer, college dropout (because the system is stupid and too expensive), and member of the 99%.

Nov 10, 2011 7:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
jamesburnett wrote:

Pay attention everyone: Michelle Bachman says she is going to look for cuts in the defense budget but what does she go after, not military contracts to private corporations or reducing our forces around the world but she goes after our veterans, by cutting their health benefits that they rightly deserve. This is a non-partisan issue. Don’t cut our veterans healthcare as a scape goat because you don’t want to cut corporate welfare to lockheed martin and XE and Boeing and Halliburton or cut our military presence oversees. Conservatives, if you want to have a strong military than raise taxes to pay for it. stop deficit financing and blowing a hole in our budget.

Nov 10, 2011 7:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
walfourth wrote:

It seems that the brownshirts came out to play.

Nov 10, 2011 7:06pm EST  --  Report as abuse
nelsonD wrote:

she does not need to be President we have a bad one now we do not need FUTURE one……

Nov 10, 2011 7:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
MDT wrote:

I guess these people want the “1%” to pay ALL the taxes, and they should get everything for free.

Nov 10, 2011 7:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
skitz wrote:

What bothers me about these “protesters” is their unfathomable stupidity. They blather on about Wall Street, but their real enemy is the government and they have not got the slightest clue about it.

It is the result of decades of idiotic regulations and manipulations of the tax code that have enabled Wall Street. Then the protesters attack Republicans and conservatives, but who do they think Wall Street is largely supporting with their political donations? It is the Democrats.

Hey, OWS nitwits, hear this: It is the GOVERNMENT that created the housing bubble. Don’t take my word for it, do a little homework for yourselves.

Nov 10, 2011 7:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse

I wonder if they’ll be doing the same at Dem speeches. After all, Obama bailed out WS and got the largest donations from WS of any president, ever.
I doubt their Dem handlers will allow them to be fair, however.

Nov 10, 2011 7:26pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DJJ1 wrote:

GOP will run into this everywhere they go with their endless help the rich policies. Let them eat cake will finally backlash.

Nov 10, 2011 7:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Daisy21 wrote:

More liberal intolerance.
Freedom of speech for them, but not for conservatives.

Maybe they should go interrupt an Obama campaign speech.

Nov 10, 2011 7:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Loudoun37 wrote:

It is time for patriots of this nation to rise up in opposition to these anarchists with counter protests. They are violating the rights and liberties of citizens by using such thuggery tactics.

Nov 10, 2011 7:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
4NoParty wrote:

We should be kind to “occupy” types. They are trying to topple this Country, while being unemployed, homeless, and being the love slaves of the Unions and Acorn….and the DNC. Given their baggage, we should cut them some slack.

Nov 10, 2011 7:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
neilc23 wrote:

Obama is the most divisive and incompetent President in my lifetime. Perhaps they should ‘occupy’ the most privileged family in America.

Although I agree that the our tax system should be more progressive, the fact is that over 26% of American families make over $100,000 Adjusted Gross Income. That’s a substantial number of families that ‘do’ have a descent standard of living. So it’s not only the 1%.

Nov 10, 2011 7:55pm EST  --  Report as abuse
pythagoras99 wrote:

@PessimistNJ, I don’t know if any major CEO ever protested, but I would wager that no OWS protester will ever be very successful. The gap between the mentality of taking it upon yourself to make something happen (like, say, getting a job or creating a business) and complaining because something isn’t handed to you is too large.

Nov 10, 2011 8:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
maroonvee wrote:

• Interesting – when Gabrielle Giffords was shot, the Democrats tried to blame it on right wing incitement of violence – even though there had never been an arrest, much less violence at a single Tea Party rally.

Now along comes Biden, warning of protests right before OWS began – a movement that started and has been taking place from a private park owned by a company that had just received a huge loan for “wind power.” OWS is a movement initiated by the successor to ACORN, many of the protestors are paid off homeless people, and the movement is certainly guided if not orchestrated by the White House.

But back to violence. After the Giffords shooting, conservatives were roundly criticized by the Democratic press, including the LA Times for inciting violence. The shoe is now on the other foot, and do we hear a word about how Democratic media is inciting violence? Of course not – despite Biden and others who talked about people taking to the street and all the rest, when it is left wing violence, somehow Democrats get a pass from the hypocrites in the Democratic media.

Don’t you people ever get sick of being manipulated? Or do you not mind it?

Nov 10, 2011 8:12pm EST  --  Report as abuse
maroonvee wrote:

why aren’t they interrupting Dem speakers and engagements? hmm hmm hmm… Oh yeah, the DNC is paying them.. can we say the zombies are on the loose?
It is amazing that they protest against capitalism, the alternative is not what they think it is. If they ever get it they will hate it, then they won’t have the right to protest anything. They need the space between their ears to be occupied.

Nov 10, 2011 8:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
maroonvee wrote:

This is what a socialist utopia looks like. Demanding support for a useless cause while assuming no responsibility; bless those Neo-Hippies…right Nancy Pelosi?

Nov 10, 2011 8:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
maroonvee wrote:

I’ve always wondered since the first days of the occupy movement why these protesters aren’t making their voices heard in front of the offices of their representatives who can actually make a difference….. because they have a problem. They voted for and like their representative. Even though the representative is screwing them. So they blame the companies who make money the government regulates, because they don’t want to hassle their friends in the government who make the rules they hate….

Nov 10, 2011 8:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GaveUpOnTV wrote:

To ‘hearIamnow2005′ regarding the ‘sellouts’ who were protesting in the 1960-I can think of 3 right off the bat. Tom Haydon (SDS)Bill Ayers (Weatherman I believe) and Jane Fonda (no need for introduction there). All these people became 1%’er’s. BTW, IMHO money isn’t bad by itself (not the root of all evil)but those who pursue it to the exclusion of other (more important) things could be considered ‘stunted’.

Nov 10, 2011 8:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ChuckShire wrote:

Thing is they love michael moore and he is part of the 1 percent.

Nov 10, 2011 8:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ChuckShire wrote:

Thing is they love michael moore and he is part of the 1 percent.

Nov 10, 2011 8:21pm EST  --  Report as abuse
realistic_01 wrote:

I wish they would quit calling themselves the 99%. They don’t represent me or anyone I know, and I find their behavior offensive and often criminal. By my estimation, they are so few in number that they really represent the 0.001%.

Nov 10, 2011 8:38pm EST  --  Report as abuse
judithod wrote:

Another example of “free speech for me but not for thee.” These protesters are akin to storm troopers.

Nov 10, 2011 8:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse

The left and their version of free speech. They ban you from their web pages, shout you down from speaking whenever they have a numerical advantage, then DEMAND they be allowed to break the law and have their time on any and every venue regardless of who pays.

Nov 10, 2011 8:46pm EST  --  Report as abuse
AnnieP1 wrote:

Look, I wouldn’t vote for Michelle Bachman. She is an idealogue and I don’t think this country can handle another after the one we have. Nevertheless, anyone putting themselves out there to run for president deserves our respect and deserves to be listened to, or at the very least deserves not to have her speech interrupted. You can disagree and not be a rude twit.

Nov 10, 2011 8:54pm EST  --  Report as abuse
lhughes wrote:

Brilliant! The imbecile “99%” woman claims “We’re Americans criticizing her. We’re just getting our voices heard,” but evidently, not to the extent where she will reveal her name. If she’s so principled why does she choose to remain anonymous? Because she’s a coward. Clearly, not representative of the 99%. My guess, She’s 10% at best. Progressive, non-tax payer, a coward, living off of her parents, unemployed, pro-looting, hopeless and ill-informed. A product of our liberal institutions. Regrettably, she’s facing a decade of despair (and more) with that mantra –

Nov 10, 2011 8:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
swampmother wrote:

A Charleston, SC attorney by the name of William Hamiliton was the one behind this disruption and harassment. He is a liberal democrat.

Nov 10, 2011 9:10pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Funny… I’m not in the rich “1%,” but I can’t stand these 99 pecenters. They have no clue, are anarchists, disrespectful, abusive, doped up, over sexed, jobless morons. There is no comparison to the Tea Party what so ever. Get a haircut and get a real job!

Nov 10, 2011 9:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
perseus317 wrote:

This is very typical behavior for the left. They believe in free speech, but only if the speech expresses the same thing that they believe in. If it does not, then they try to stifle it at every opportunity. They simply do not believe that conservatives have the same rights that they do. Any time a conservative tries to have an open debate with a liberal, the liberal quickly forgets about arguing about FACTS and degenerates into character assasination and personal attacks. Liberals believe what they believe, and they refuse listen to any factual evidence which contradicts their beliefs.

Nov 10, 2011 9:56pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Piquerist wrote:

Well, isn’t it ducky that members of the “Fleaparty” showed and exercised their rights to shout down another citizen’s right to speak … to say nothing of denying the rights of those who came to hear. The Left is utterly loathsome.

Nov 10, 2011 10:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse

hereiam2005, his point is that in America, more than anywhere else in the world, the status or class of people is fluid. Or that a 1% can become a 99% and visa versa more often in this society. (eg. class is far more foxed in Europe) Why this is has to do with the free market, yes, but more that we prioritize individual liberty first, idea. The trouble is that prioritizing freedom is mutually exclusive to our decent instinct for egalitarianism: as these OWS mostly want. It always ends in bringing the entire populace down to the lowest common denominator.

Nov 10, 2011 11:03pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GozieBoy wrote:

The following is taken from the actual AP copy about the Perry “gaffe” during last night’s debate. Note that this was written in private, not in front of a nationwide audience, and with plenty of time to proof and edit. So, which is TRULY the bigger gaffe??

“He is a has proven a charismatic campaigner…”

AP, which used to be a credible journalistic entity, shouldn’t be throwing ANY rocks…

Nov 10, 2011 11:24pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SteveFromSf wrote:

swampmother: how do you know William Hamilton is behind this?

Nov 10, 2011 11:32pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GAM wrote:

I like Bachmann, I would like to see a Ron Paul/Michele Bachmann ticket.

Nov 10, 2011 11:57pm EST  --  Report as abuse
GAM wrote:

The USA is 15 trillion dollars in debt, and there are 307 million citizens. With some simple math you can see that each man, woman, and child owes over $47,000. Since only half of the population actually pay taxes it comes to $94,000 per taxpayer. If we expect just the top 2% of the wage earners to pay for it, they will owe over $2,000,000 each. We have a big problem caused by overspending, not so much because we tax too little. We need to shrink the government and elect people that are willing to make hard choices, not just lip service. Too often we elect people that say one thing and do another. Please vote for the only person that has been talking straight to the American people for 30 years warning us about this problem, make a difference and support Ron Paul.

Nov 11, 2011 12:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
circadia wrote:

We will silence all those we disagree with! Yeah, great message. The intolerance and lack of civility on the left is getting worse every day.

Nov 11, 2011 12:41am EST  --  Report as abuse
thehindmost wrote:

….God this is pathetic. (I mean all you I guess right wingers is the closest applicable term, not the protestors) One, they didn’t stay there and drown her out until she left. They said what they came to say and were gone. Two…liberals and democrats are by no means the only people who ignores conflicting viewpoints, and in fact, I think any major news station with a slant to the right will back me up there. Three, all of you who don’t ‘agree’ with the protests need to do some research and educate yourself, because I for one have not heard a single demand or suggestion anywhere I’ve garnered information to completely remove taxes except for the 1%. Thats just insane. That is simply painting a position onto someone else yourself that you know you can disagree with, because you don’t want to actually learn what they’re talking about. This kind of dissent, blind ignorance to each others concerns and views, and disregard for the context of it all is what starts riots. It what drives unstable people to do foolish things. Its what starts civil wars. And I guarantee you, if this movement keeps growing, and counter movements follow suite, that is exactly the path this situation will most likely roll down. Bachmann disagrees with Cain’s 9-9-9 tax, which I think is an intelligent position and I respect her for that. On the other hand, she speaks of enforcing English ‘as the official language of America’. That is not only somewhat confusing in the logistical area, but also scarily bigoted on a baser level. She also pushes for expanding military presence in the middle east, something we can not only not afford but which we have no right to do, which is incredibly and blindly ideological and irrational. Obama has some brilliant ideas, like his infrastructure bank which hasn’t made a peep since being pitched, which would remove financing for infrastructure projects from Congress’s power and place it in the hands of an independent organization who would make decisions based solely on a return for taxpayers and logistical analysis of where projects were needed instead of passing favors back and forth amongst senators and house reps. What happened to that brilliant, brilliant damned idea? Buried. On the other hand he’s kept the same economic advisers and regulators in pocket, and not been pushy enough with the republicans in a desire to reach a consensus instead of getting things done.
EVERY candidate or politician has some good ideas, and some bad ideas. They get into office based on their good ideas, and act on most of the bad ones. Well guess what boys and girls, its the ISSUES that need to be centerfold. Not the politicians, not who’s alligned with who, who supports who, or who thinks the most good I agree with and the least amount of bad I disagree with. its the issues, its the policies, its the laws. If we don’t educate ourselves there, learn to understand those things there, and just follow our favorite mascot….well. Civil Wars are started every decade on this planet over less, riots even less, and those things in this country will get very messy.

Nov 11, 2011 12:55am EST  --  Report as abuse
thebruce wrote:

GAM your policy perspective needs some serious reconsideration. Ron Paul would probably rather commit seppuku than have bachmann as his partner…i would if he chose bachmann as his running mate…

bachmann is not a conservative voice or a sincere voice…she is the definition of a pocket politician.

Nov 11, 2011 12:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
thebruce wrote:

GAM your policy perspective needs some serious reconsideration. Ron Paul would probably rather commit seppuku than have bachmann as his partner…i would if he chose bachmann as his running mate…

bachmann is not a conservative voice or a sincere voice…she is the definition of a pocket politician.

Nov 11, 2011 12:57am EST  --  Report as abuse
keister7 wrote:

These people are the obama “FLEA” Party folks. 99%?? Not exactly… more like 1%

Nov 11, 2011 1:28am EST  --  Report as abuse
perseus317 wrote:

It occurs to me that, if a conservative protester went to one of Obama’s or Biden’s, or Pelosi’s speeches, and behaved the way that these clowns did, they would have been beaten to a pulp by union thugs. That type of thing has already happened at various Democrat rallies and conventions. The hypocrisy and double standard shown by the left is disgusting, and the way that it is perpetuated by the so-called main stream media is even more pathetic. I just hope that enough voters think clearly about who is doing what, and see through the propaganda spewed out by the media, and they do the right thing in 2012.

Nov 11, 2011 2:21am EST  --  Report as abuse
Vicarious51 wrote:

As the old says goes, “If you aren’t over the target, you aren’t catching flak” Keep up the good work, Michele!

Nov 11, 2011 6:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
BLURB wrote:

With the exception of any Koch sock-puppet social media astroturfers (assuming there are any), I ask the following questions.

Why do you want to be governed by Corporations?

If corporations can buy the government, then why do we have a government?

Nov 11, 2011 7:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
stk4prez wrote:

I think they’d be better off to support someone they believe in rather than disrupting someone they don’t like, but the comment at the bottom of the article stood out the most for me and demonstrates how lost this country really is.

“Not one of them pays taxes, and their parents are paying for their education,” said Hemberger, who attended the speech. “I don’t understand where they’re coming from. They don’t even have a job yet.”

Bachmann and the other candidates have no clue, nor does this supporter, what taxes really are, what a job really is, and that education could be FREE withOUT a government program through a bit of innovative thought. People who have never been without a job don’t and perhaps can’t understand those who have been and likely will never stop to think about how really to get people to work but will only point fingers as this person is doing.

Nov 11, 2011 7:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
1776 wrote:

All little lemmings brainwashed against their own country, the best and most free country ever on this planet. Sure, everybody’s angry but angry about how our country is being demolished by one wrecking crew after another in our magnificent white house. Please, shake awake. Do something real. Go to Penn State and protest the pedophile ring sustained by that so called university. A university that has wrecked the lives of students making them greedy little creeps who are zombie tassel twirlers and butt patters on sports fields and have been trained to ignore and not to care about children. People who don’t FIGHT to protect innocent children are devils. DO SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE EFFECT. Protest Penn State… and ALLLL NFL. School scholarships do not belong in the sports arenas. The schools use those dumb students for their bodies just like the coach and the rich donors used and still use, children. 1. Stop NFL, 2. Stop Sports Scholarships. 3. Make Universities lower tuition, they are the ones who can do it.

Nov 11, 2011 7:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
alflanagan wrote:

Bachmann is lying through her teeth. Also, she’s insane. Other than that, a great candidate! Go Republicans!

Nov 11, 2011 8:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
MnMark wrote:

This was not an assertion of 1st Amendment rights.

First, the 1st Amendment limits the GOVERNMENT’S power to hinder speech. You have no 1st Amendment right to force your speech into someone else’s event.

Second, the purpose was not “speech”. The purpose was not to have an exchange of ideas. The screamers had no illusion that anyone in that room would change their mind about anything just because they screamers were shouting at them. And the screamers had no interest at all in the ideas Bachmann was expressing.

No, the point of their act was INTIMIDATION. It was an act of aggression, intended to put conservatives like Bachmann on notice that the screamers are very, very angry with conservatives and are willing to step outside the bounds of politeness, of civil discourse, of social norms of behavior in such events, to intimidate conservatives.

This was an act of bullying. And when conservatives are not silenced, the next step will be more aggressive bullying – perhaps intended not to just interrupt an event, but to end it entirely. And when that doesn’t work, the next step will be more violent tactics. The Left has already taken steps in that direction with their pie-throwing, becoming physically aggressive. They have gone to the private homes of leading conservative figures to pound on the windows and bully the person into silence (like the incident at Karl Rove’s house).

So don’t call this an exercise of speech. It’s bullying, it’s intimidation. It has nothing to do with speech.

Nov 11, 2011 8:01am EST  --  Report as abuse
daedilus wrote:

@hereiam2005:

You must be joking? The list of former 60′s radicals who are the 1% of today is a book that would dwarf a dictionary.

Lets start with the names you know, rather than alphabetically.

1. Barack Hussein Obama.
2. Bill Ayers.
3. John Kerry
4. Nancy Pelosi
5. George Soros.

On and on and on and on and on and on and on and on all the way through the democratic roster, through most of the entirety of hollywood, the media and the technology corporations.

Millions, hundreds of millions.

On and on ad-nauseum.

Nov 11, 2011 8:21am EST  --  Report as abuse

Hey hereiam, 1960′s hippie louts that live well: John Kerry, Martin Sheen, Jane Fonda, Ben & Jerry, neeed I continue? The problem with the “can’t seem to occupy themselves” crowd is that they have no inner resources, are unskilled bums who would starve to death on Gilligan’s Island. Atlas Shrugged baby, it’s coming.

Nov 11, 2011 8:29am EST  --  Report as abuse
Gork_Boneman wrote:

She criticized the administration’s military cuts and then talked about cutting military healthcare spending. Wow.

And, her “supporter” asking who the demonstrators were, saying they haven’t even had jobs? Wow. Hopefully they’ll find more meaningful employment than supporting a rightwing religious crackpot who, with her peculiar husband and the rest of her family accepts government money for anything they can – while holding their hands out to the Koch brothers and other criminals to continue pushing mean-spirited, ill-advised, wrong policies that she doesn’t even understand.

Anyone who was an IRS lawyer is not a nice person.

Nov 11, 2011 8:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
Hacknit wrote:

@hereiam2005 Jane Fonda and John Kerry both come to mind.

Nov 11, 2011 8:47am EST  --  Report as abuse

The “occupy” crowds are those among us that are simply the too lazy to work, too stupid to innovate, and too dim to create. Just as middle easter jihadist do, they see themselves being left behind in the dust of real human progress. They either protest or accept their own irrelevance. Look to the day that the 1% have carried humanity to the stars while the “occupiers” are still making mudpies. Interfering with progress, isn’t that why Obama dismanteld NASA? What the left can’t understand or control it must destroy.

Nov 11, 2011 8:59am EST  --  Report as abuse
RailBended wrote:

wow. Protesters accuse her of catering to the extremely rich (cough, lobbyists, cough) and she hides behind our military veterans instead of attempting to address their concerns?

sigh. She’s an idiot.

If she wants to call them ignorant and disrespectful, don’t use the military as the reason. Some of our veterans DIED for the the freedoms our country has that allowed these people to interrupt her speech.

What’s it take for a politician to actually LISTEN to the ’99%’ instead of simply writing them off as people without lobbyists and campaign funds?

Engage them. Debate them. Agree with them or Discredit them.. Do SOMETHING besides read a pre-scripted speech someone else wrote FOR you.

Nov 11, 2011 9:07am EST  --  Report as abuse
sector6 wrote:

That’s right, shut her up. Bachmann is nothing but a liar and a hater. She is the voice of the dumbest, most ignorant and intolerant people. For years she openly lied on national TV. Loves to say crazy stauff. Enough with politics, Michelle, go spend some time with your girlfriend Marcus.

Nov 11, 2011 9:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
cutter77 wrote:

It to bad we American’s has been DUMBED DOWN by a failed education system and a biased media. The establishment media’s bills are paid by their advertisers, who happen to be the same Wall Street banks and corps who are ripping America off. Avoid getting info from CNN, MSNBC and Fox… it’s all a lie and they will tell you who to vote for and to NOT CONSIDER RON PAUL. Doesn’t that tell you that Ron Paul is our best choice.

Wake Up! Obama, Romney, Perry and Cain are funded by the banking cartels. Ron Paul is by far our best choice. Below I state my case.

Ron Paul serves on the House Committees on Foreign Affairs and Financial Services, and on the Joint Economic Committee. He is the chairman of the Financial Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology, where he has been an outspoken critic of American foreign and monetary policy.
Dr. Paul is clearly the most qualified candidate to tackle our Nations critical economic and foreign affair issues. The rest of the top tier candidates like Romney, Perry, Cain and Obama are a bunch of clowns who receive their funds from major donors from Wall Street.
Ron Paul receives more financial contributions from active duty vets than all the other candidates combined. Why is this? They know that Ron Paul is the best solution for our National Defense, though the establishment media is trying to make him look like a kook who would hurt national security. We need to defend our borders and give all these National Guard troops who are on their 3rd and 4th tours of duty a break. What if there was a real war in the near future? Our military is already at the breaking point from wars started to help banks and oil companies. We need an agenda to help America. Vote for Ron Paul 2012!!!!

Nov 11, 2011 9:24am EST  --  Report as abuse
chipgiii wrote:

People fear Bachmann. She’s an advocate of hardwork and self-reliance in an age of a growing entitlement mindset. Protesters are quick to align politicians of this vent as catering to the rich. Which is pretty stupid since the top one persent as the protester claim, tend to contribute to both parties and candidates of both entitlement and non entitlement mentalities.

I suspect there are some serious protesters, but I suspect there are some that see this as a “happening” as well. One thing I know, when you are young you tend to think very idealistically, and as you get older a bit more practically, assuming age brings maturity. I know. I was young and idealistic, and now I am older and have to pay for some very foolish idealistic stuff that never seems to bear fruit.

Nov 11, 2011 9:26am EST  --  Report as abuse
chipgiii wrote:

RailBended.

Totally disagree. Freedom of speech should not be a license for bad behavior anytime or anyplace. The “church” group protesting military funerals are within their freedom of speech rights, but to many of us they are morally bankrupt.

Nov 11, 2011 9:31am EST  --  Report as abuse
chipgiii wrote:

daedilus,

Are you serious? Liberals don’t count. They are the annointed ones and know better than all others. It is okay for them to be very rich and criticize other rich people. It is okay for rich dems and rich hollywood libs to be rich from capitalism. They just want to suppress the rest of us and keep slavery alive and well.

Nov 11, 2011 9:37am EST  --  Report as abuse
KittyWitty wrote:

Bachmann is great. Unfortunatly, the ignorant grasping rabble adore the political sugar daddies who promise them other peoples’ property. It’s a well-used and powerful formula for success in the age of entitlement.

Nov 11, 2011 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
nicksaint wrote:

Why would you bother protesting a candidate who has already lost the GOP nomination?

Nov 11, 2011 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
lantanalenox wrote:

“They don’t even have a job yet,” and if the glib-tongued Bachmann gets elected, they never will. She’ll pray for them though, you can be sure of that.

Nov 11, 2011 9:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
benaiah wrote:

I think one of the definitions of “liberal” should be defined as “also a group of people who define their own rights.” The rights to free speech were not for mobs of poeple to violate others rights of free speech. Do you think you have the right to walk into an organization and disrupt a meeting? Do you think you have the right to a high school graduation and yell like crazy to prevent speeches? Do you think you have the right to walk into a church and disrupt services? No wonder our rights are being trampled, the politicians probably agree with your elementary constitutionology! You don’t have the right to deny other free people’s rights! Stop manipulating our constitution to your own idiotic world view. You are young and brainwashed and think veterans like me fought in foreign lands so you can do whatever you “feel” is right.

Nov 11, 2011 9:47am EST  --  Report as abuse
sethkoch wrote:

Imagine if 30 people had tried something like this on a Clinton or Obama? The police would have beaten them. Occupy protesters need to do their home work. They should be occupying the Federal Reserve, not Wall Street. Back in 1910 this same thing was going on. Back then the rich elite used the Democrat party to push through more regulation, that actually helped the bankers get even more power, that’s what we call the Federal Reserve. Today’s protesters are just as ignorant as they were back in 1910. And again, the elite are using the democrats to push through more regulations that will give even more power to the banking cartel.

Nov 11, 2011 9:54am EST  --  Report as abuse
Coyote1 wrote:

“”Not one of them pays taxes, and their parents are paying for their education,” said Hemberger, who attended the speech. “I don’t understand where they’re coming from. They don’t even have a job yet.”

Yeah, but they still have the right to protest, and they have a right to be concerned with their future job prospects, and in what kind of country they inherent. Hamberger’s comment is just plain stupid, as is Bachmann’s reaction to the protesters. Go back to your Tea party, Bachmann, because you’ll never be President.

Nov 11, 2011 10:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
elche wrote:

These idiots should have been arrested, they are being manipulated by Obama and his thugs. The rest of all Americans should get ready for this kind of parasites and blast them when they appear.

Nov 11, 2011 10:50am EST  --  Report as abuse
omiomeo wrote:

The “1%” is anyone who makes >$300,000/year. Most SMB’s (that supply most of the jobs in the U.S.) fall into this category. THEREFORE, all OWS members & supporters MUST cease associating with the “1%” in ANY way, shape or form. This means NOT working for the “1%”. To do otherwise is hypocritical and dishonest.

Nov 11, 2011 11:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
paperpushermj wrote:

“We’re Americans criticizing her. We’re just getting our voices heard,” said a young woman who wouldn’t give her name. “She’s getting her voice heard. Why can’t I have my voice heard?”
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Answer: To the obviously Spoiled,Self Involved,Entitled Twit who asked the question ” Why can’t I get my voice Heard” is because Mrs Bachmann is Running for the office of the President of the United States and you are not. Those in the audience chose to travel to hear what Mrs Bachmann had to say concerning her thoughts on Foreign Policy.
Because you did not value nor respect Mrs Bachmanns Right to speak you pulled a Kanye West thinking that You and Your message would be more important to those listening.
YOU WHERE WRONG

Nov 11, 2011 11:33am EST  --  Report as abuse
cutbow wrote:

“Not one of them pays taxes, and their parents are paying for their education,” said Hemberger, who attended the speech. “I don’t understand where they’re coming from. They don’t even have a job yet.”

They are protesting because their middle class families are struggling to stay afloat; they are protesting because the Congress consistently favors the 1% and the lobbyists of the 1%; they are protesting because Congress is broken thus their government and their country is broken; they are protesting because while the real income of the middle and lower classes have steadily declined under Republican rule since Reagan; THEY ARE PROTESTING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO FUTURE!!! That, Mr Hemberger, is why they are protesting. Their country doesn’t work anymore; the American Dream has evaporated; lobbyists and evil financial necromancers run the country for 1% of the people, and that has got people stirred up. Finally!

Nov 11, 2011 11:43am EST  --  Report as abuse
gfruzze wrote:

“And Bachmann suggested cuts in health care benefits for military retirees.”

That’s some real “support the troops” for your ass from an (R). They need to stop this “we support the troops” charade.

Nov 11, 2011 11:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
CerferJoe wrote:

Michelle’s ma belle!

You get ‘em gurrrrrrrl.

You got my my vote!

Nov 11, 2011 11:49am EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

Once again this comment thread demonstrates the hypocrisy of the right….

Many are complaining that this is not free speech, but a ‘hijacking’ of a campaign stop. Did I see you all complaining when the tea-party people where ‘hijacking’ town halls and shouting down Reps. and Senators trying to answer their questions? NO, you called this patriotic. Even more ugly was the recent outburst at an Elizabeth Warren meet where the terms ‘Socialist Whore’ and ‘Your Kenyan Born boss’ where screamed at her. Two insults that are not true, while the people mentioned in this article where actually on fact and not insulting. (even more telling was Ms. Warren’s reaction to this outburst, she is one smart, realistic, down to earth cookie, wish I lived in MA to vote for her) There is no comparison between the level of vitriol directed at public figures from the right and the left. The right has this won, hands down. Personally I think the shouting down in town halls and GOP campaign events is immature, although in this case at least they had their facts straight, you can make your voice heard without interrupting others events, but the hypocrisy on the right between how they view these events I mentioned is telling.

Lastly, one thing you righties are good at is the whole ‘name game’. I guess your newest one is ‘flea party’, to go along with your ‘Obummer’, ‘Nobama’, ‘Obamacare’, ‘Mediscare’, etc…. I have to admit you all are 10 times better at this then the lefties. It is grade school tactics, but you all sure got it mastered. Impressive!, and it sure contributes positively to helping solve the countries problems. /end sarcasm

Nov 11, 2011 12:15pm EST  --  Report as abuse
idavycrockett wrote:

You teach in our schools from day one that you are deserving of everything your heart desires, and you reinforce that over and over. And what do you get. Exactly what we see and hear from these ignorant children. They need to grow up and get a real education. You know the easy way would be to truly cover American History. That would cure alot of this. Not the sanitized, rewrite they get. The real deal. The rich are not the problem. These FOOLS out there protesting are!! We are becoming a socialist state very quickly. UNLESS….people wake up and take their place as the governing body of this great nation. God help us if these idiots get into decision making seats of power.

Nov 11, 2011 12:25pm EST  --  Report as abuse
333maxwell wrote:

daedilus wrote:
You must be joking? The list of former 60′s radicals who are the 1% of today is a book that would dwarf a dictionary.

Lets start with the names you know, rather than alphabetically.

1. Barack Hussein Obama.

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What a silly, misinformed and uneducated bit of nonsensical fabrication.

Hard to imagine a 8 yr old Obama (in 1969) was much of a radical..

But hey, if it makes you ‘feel better’ re-writing reality .. I mean unless you really did find yourself hiding under the bed in 69 from the 8 yr old Obama.. (where is the rolling eyes emoticon when you need one)

Nov 11, 2011 1:08pm EST  --  Report as abuse
paperpushermj wrote:

USAPragmatist
You do know the difference between a “Open House” staged by the Politician as a way to explaining their thoughts on issues and seeking questions and feedback from the participants from a Static policy speech.
It seems you have taken the low road by defending those that interrupted Mrs Bachmann Speech by excusing bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior.

Nov 11, 2011 1:16pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Michael1167 wrote:

@thehindmost – you write:
“On the other hand, she speaks of enforcing English ‘as the official language of America’. That is not only somewhat confusing in the logistical area, but also scarily bigoted on a baser level.”
about Bachmann. May I ask what is wrong with enforcing English the official language of America? I dont know about you but ever since Clinton took office and signed NAFTA and started requiring everything be written in two languages on all of our products and now evertime I dial the phone to talk to a company here in the US, I have to be driven insane by hearing spanish options everywhere.
If you want to be an American, learn English. Don’t expect us to share your culture, assimilate into ours. This is the American way. Always has been and always will be (hopefully). America – the many into one. Multiculturalism is a total failure and that is what Bachmann is hinting at. Even the morons over in western europe are finally admiting that the great multiculturalism social experiment is an abject failure.
The question is why are you so against thsi comment from Bachmann? Why do you have a problem with enforcing English as the official language here where it always has been up until very very recently?

Nov 11, 2011 1:17pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Pat Hemberger misses the point. Of course many of the protesters “don’t even have a job yet.” High unemployment is one of the chief reasons these young people are protesting. Many of them have 4-year degrees which are now useless because the jobs they were promised have been outsourced to foreign countries.

Nov 11, 2011 1:59pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ErinsFire wrote:

Bachmann wants to “cut health care benefits for military retirees,” and has the cheek to criticize the protestors, calling them, “disrespectful and ignorant.” She then has the hypocrisy to say,
“I just hope that someday they come to understand what’s been done for them, how their liberties were paid for with a very heavy price by the people in that room,” she said, referring to the veterans who attended the speech.

Why should they–YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T, MS BACHMANN!

THE Hypocrisy is nauseating and disgraceful. How can anyone listen to it without interrupting her–even if it’s only to vomit.

Nov 11, 2011 2:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Randy549 wrote:

USAPragmatist
The episode with Elizabeth Warren of which you speak was a lone, random, non-affiliated person briefly interrupting Warren, not a 30-person organized group that openly acknowledged their affiliation with OWS, shouting on for a number of minutes straight. While the behavior in each case is equally reprehensible, the two cases are not comparable. I suspect that this is why the Warren incident was nowhere as nearly widely-reported as this one (I had to search a bit to even find references to it).

Nov 11, 2011 3:41pm EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@PaperPushermj, you obviously did not read my post completely, as I plainly stated that I did not approve of the behavior. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy in the vast majority of the comments from those crying about the interruption.

Nov 11, 2011 3:42pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DrJJJJ wrote:

The protesters were yelling: ask what your country can do for you!

Nov 11, 2011 4:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
fromthecenter wrote:

These crazy people, dont they know that corporations and politicians only want what is best for America? That every decision they make is from their love of our country and citizenry?

Nov 11, 2011 5:05pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ConstFundie wrote:

The right has a degraded into one consistent message, if you do not agree with us there is something wrong with you, you are not Americans and are discountable. The bottom 50% do not pay enough income tax so they do not matter, young Americans, old enough to die for your safety and economic ease, are not yet into their careers so they do not matter. A message of belittling, a now majority of Americans, is doomed to political failure.

America is not working. We are living in our current life-style by credit. There have to be huge cuts in spending and significant tax increases for the good of the Nation. There is No other way to cut our deficit. How is it not wrong, and even expected, that Americans should fight for our Nation and pay with life, limb and soul, and yet it is wrong, to righteous indignation, to increase taxes on the rich for the good of the Nation? When does having a vacation home more important than arms and legs? When it’s the arms and legs of the bottom 50%, or those young kids without jobs yet, right?

Nov 11, 2011 5:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
wolfboi1970 wrote:

Shes such a horrible hate filled, ignorant woman… and it shows when she goes before military on vets weekend, and tells them how CUTS TO THEIR BENIFITS AND HEALTHCARE MUST BE MADE… whats she smoking?? She has got to be the stupidest woman in politics…making Sarah palin look like a scholar… And most of her supporters…NOT ALL, but alot, feed off her hateful positions, remarks and will to cut deep divides among Americans, not just by party, but race, religion, as well as degrading wide swaths of people based on lies and propaganda…
RON PAUL 2012… OUR ONLY REAL CHOICE FOR AMERICA AND AMERICANS!!!

Nov 12, 2011 1:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
TheNewWorld wrote:

While I don’t care for bachmann it is pretty ironic for a group calling themselves the 99% that is actively protesting against 1% of the population to say that bachman is dividing the people.

Nov 12, 2011 3:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
Buelligan wrote:

“Not one of them pays taxes, and their parents are paying for their education,” said Hemberger, who attended the speech. “I don’t understand where they’re coming from. They don’t even have a job yet.”

Republican supporters continuing to show they aren’t any smarter or more well informed than when they would call Obama a terrorist at the McCain/Palin rallies.

First of all, anyone who purchases anything pays taxes…income isn’t the only tax the government collects, ever heard of sales tax?

I’m suprised that as a Bachman supporter you would know all the protesters personally. Surely you wouldn’t make statements regarding their job status and who is funding their education without knowing the facts.

Pat Hemberger, your assumptions are the reason people have such a low opinion of the way Republicans view their fellow Americans. You spew hateful rhetoric about anyone that does not have the same agenda as you.

Nov 12, 2011 10:40am EST  --  Report as abuse
Buelligan wrote:

miguel526 – “It’s time that these OWS bums learn that civilized, respectful Americans will make them pay with their own blood for their offenses against civility.”

Really? You think its civil and respectful to use violence against peaceful protesters? They got their message out and left, no need to act like an internet toughguy.

Nov 12, 2011 11:05am EST  --  Report as abuse
Buelligan wrote:

@daedilus – “Lets start with the names you know, rather than alphabetically.

1. Barack Hussein Obama.
2. Bill Ayers.
3. John Kerry
4. Nancy Pelosi
5. George Soros.”

6. John McCain

Nov 12, 2011 11:16am EST  --  Report as abuse
USAPragmatist wrote:

@Randy549, I do not think being screamed at and called a ‘socialist whore’ and saying ‘your boss needs to go back to Kenya’ is, to quote you, ‘equally reprehensible’ as these peaceful protesters interrupting Bachmann. In fact it is 10 times worse, yet you do not see the media reporting about that, it that blasted conservative-biased main stream media. (If the right can blame it on the ‘liberal’ media, I can blame it on the corporate dominated conservative media)

Nov 13, 2011 11:25am EST  --  Report as abuse
4ngry4merican wrote:

omiomeo – “The “1%” is anyone who makes >$300,000/year. Most SMB’s (that supply most of the jobs in the U.S.) fall into this category.”

I thought we had moved past this BS lie. The 1% are INDIVIDUALS that make over $300k, not businesses. If your business is profitable enough that your INDIVIDUAL income from it is over $300k, you are not a “small” business.

Nov 14, 2011 1:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Doublejay wrote:

Wow. This is so hilarious in it’s dumbness it deserves a reprint: “idavycrockett wrote:
You teach in our schools from day one that you are deserving of everything your heart desires, and you reinforce that over and over. And what do you get. Exactly what we see and hear from these ignorant children. They need to grow up and get a real education. You know the easy way would be to truly cover American History. That would cure alot of this. Not the sanitized, rewrite they get. The real deal. The rich are not the problem. These FOOLS out there protesting are!! We are becoming a socialist state very quickly. UNLESS….people wake up and take their place as the governing body of this great nation. God help us if these idiots get into decision making seats of power.”
Truly foolish. Not a word on how Bachmann says that Veteran’s benefits should be cut and then in the same breath complains about protestors making thir voices heard one day before veteran’s day… so let me get this straight. According to you the US is becoming a socialist state. You say the rich are not the problem. Rubbish. If you think that using the First Amendment to complain about the fact that the richest people in the US are paying less tax than the everyday Joe’s makes them “socialists” (bearing in mind that the taxing of these freeloaders would not raise unemployment one iota and would actually create enough revenue to help pull this country of of debt) Then you are ignorant. In the good old 50′s, men would generally make enough to support their families without the need for a second income. Back then there was a bit more equality and belief in the US because there was a real American Dream and a real chance of making it. Now much of the US subsists on a total income – with both partners working – of around $30k. What they do if they, their family or kids get sick, god only knows. So don’t you dare to call someone socialist when kids are force fed creationism and intelligent design instead of real science, when they are told that if they want to further their education they will be left with a bill that they will not pay off until they reach 35 years old if they are lucky, when the rich get richer by not paying tax while their parents suffer thanks to a Republican created double dip recession. And if I am wrong about any of this because of factual errors do let me know. Before you do though please check your dictionary and check the meaning of the word socialism and let me know if it includes actually worrying about your future because it has already been sold to the highest bidder. Oh and I sure hope you are not a veteran… wouldn’t want those republican cutting your meds if they get in power eh?

Nov 14, 2011 2:02pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Doublejay wrote:

omiomeo wrote:
The “1%” is anyone who makes >$300,000/year. Most SMB’s (that supply most of the jobs in the U.S.) fall into this category. THEREFORE, all OWS members & supporters MUST cease associating with the “1%” in ANY way, shape or form. This means NOT working for the “1%”. To do otherwise is hypocritical and dishonest.

What meds are you on??? Most of the 1% are making a PERSONAL amount there… and how does a wall street broker, or the CEO of a company outsourcing AMERICAN jobs to the lowest bidder in India or China deserve respect or to be defended trhrough their non payment of tax? Oh and btw, did you know that through loopholes one of the biggest US companies, GE, had a negative tax bill. Is that fair? Is that helping the US economy? How about this: If YOU don’t want to contribute to the country you live in or are based, go live somewhere else. You are not wanted or needed here, freeloader.

Nov 14, 2011 3:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BuffaloGirl wrote:

Wake up Perseus317

P317, You said, “this is very typical behavior for the left. They believe in free speech, but only if the speech expresses the same thing that they believe in. If it does not, then they try to stifle it at every opportunity”

How is using a protected constitutional right to free speech stifling others? They did not prevent Michelle from having her chance to speak. When she did take her opportunity to speak, she insulted our veterans by hypocritically saying she’d cut health care for them after bagging others for not supporting our troops. Whatta dag!

P317:”They simply do not believe that conservatives have the same rights that they do.”

That’s such a load of crap. They are just exercising their right to free speech, and you still have your right as a conservative to have your say, and so did she.

P317: Any time a conservative tries to have an open debate with a liberal, the liberal quickly forgets about arguing about FACTS and degenerates into character assasination and personal attacks.

So where is your brilliant debate? It works both ways, buddy, yet you do the very thing of which you accuse others. Why don’t you tell us what policies are important to you, rather than having a whinge that liberals don’t give conservatives a chance. They/you get the chance. The Republican candidates have had their chance in all the venues they go to, or they wouldn’t be there.

P317: Liberals believe what they believe, and they refuse listen to any factual evidence which contradicts their beliefs.

So where’s your facts? Like you don’t believe what you believe? Have you contributed anything worthwhile to this page other than whinging? Why don’t you give some good examples to make your point rather than making bland,over-generalised, self-righteous jabs at those YOU disagree with.

I’m of the opinion that what we really need are some astute people and politicians, who can articulate what they can do to make America the great place it can be, rather than making enemies and tearing down anything that opposes or is outside the conservative view. On the recent televised debates, there was not one, not one, presidential candidate that really showed a level of intelligence and leadership that could take our country to greatness.

Policies I’d like to see are: modestly increasing minimum wage to enhance people’s buying of necessities and help the economy, eliminating ways for the rich to avoid paying personal tax and corporate tax, regulating banks to stop creating the risks that hurt our economy, and making business pay greater taxes for taking jobs overseas. THAT would be a good place to start. What’s your plan?

Nov 16, 2011 6:11am EST  --  Report as abuse
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