Stricken Italian liner shifts, 29 people missing

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classicshadow wrote:

Don’t totally lay blame on the Captain. More then 4000 people were saved.Wait for the investigation. The First Mate is also in charge of the ship with the Captain’s absence. Wait until we know the facts.

Jan 16, 2012 12:56am EST  --  Report as abuse
J_e wrote:

“The disaster occurred when the ship struck a rock as dinner was being served Friday night, triggering scenes of panic that witnesses said were like the film “Titanic” with passengers jostling to get on lifeboats and some leaping into the icy sea.”
Sounds just like a scene from “Titanic”! Many props to the creative writer… LOL, not!
I like how the Mediterranean Sea is “icy”, ROFL!!!!!

Jan 16, 2012 1:42am EST  --  Report as abuse
Free-Speech wrote:

classicshadow;

It doesn’t matter what “happened”… The captain must be blamed otherwise the company is LIABLE!

That’s how business works! And that’s how justice works!

Jan 16, 2012 2:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
gee.la wrote:

It is Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception.

Jan 16, 2012 2:10am EST  --  Report as abuse
L_Pet wrote:

The Mediterranean in the winter is extremely cold..

Regardless of where the blame is being placed, the captain is the man of the ship. Seems like he needed to nut up and take care of the situation.. and didn’t.

P.S.- Photo looks awesome.

Jan 16, 2012 3:46am EST  --  Report as abuse
WilliamBruce2 wrote:

After the Costa Concordia disaster, we have taken a close look at the owner, Carnival Cruise Lines.

Here’s the report:
http://williambruce.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/after-carnival-cruise-lines-shipwreck-in-italy-we-take-a-closer-look-at-the-company/

Jan 16, 2012 8:52am EST  --  Report as abuse
Stanley7746 wrote:

Blaming the Captain assigns blame to human error. This is a much more marketable scenario than a technical error that would bring into question all cruise ships operation ability. If it was an onboard steering problem caused by loss of computer navigation, this might be a game changer in one decision to take a cruise. The Captain works for the blame game.

Jan 16, 2012 9:20am EST  --  Report as abuse
JamVee wrote:

You have to think that the captain, at the time the ship ran aground, was either mentally impaired (maybe high on something), or, even worse, took the ship of course on purpose. After all, he steered this “Mega” ship, with a draft of over 25′, into waters that local fishing vessels and ferries knew enough to be cautious about.

Jan 16, 2012 9:44am EST  --  Report as abuse
frozeninusa wrote:

The ship was 4 miles off course, this is the captain’s responsibility. They should make him go back to the ship and help search for the bodies. And he should be made to see the recovered bodies. And why did the captain and the crew abandon ship way before all the passengers were off. They should all rot in jail.

Jan 16, 2012 11:18am EST  --  Report as abuse
dtschuck wrote:

I wonder what the salary of the Costa Concordia’s Captain, I.M. Coward, was?

Jan 16, 2012 4:07pm EST  --  Report as abuse
matthewslyman wrote:

> “Its share price was down around 16 percent on the London market.”
!!! Only 16 percent??? The consequences of this disaster are certainly not all “priced in” yet!

@classicshadow: “Don’t totally lay blame on the Captain… Wait for the investigation.”
You’re right, that it just isn’t proper for Foschi to turn the ship’s captain into a scapegoat, especially not at this early stage. But this captain really does sound like an idiot who shouldn’t be in charge of a ship with more than 2 people on it…
> “Schettino denies being too close to the coast and says the rock he hit was not marked on charts.”
Like, “That rock just ran out at my ship!” Besides the point that the ship was obviously too close to the island; Schettino shouldn’t be talking to the media. It’s improper to do that, either for Foschi or Schettino, until the accident investigation has been fully completed, all questions satisfied and the report published. Whatever the facts are, they will be known before long… This is not the time for finger-pointing and avoiding responsibility. It’s the time to be doing everything to rescue any remaining survivors, sympathising and materially supporting the bereaved/ injured/ displaced, and talking openly with the emergency services, accident investigators and salvagers to prevent the disaster from growing any bigger.

Jan 16, 2012 4:27pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dtschuck wrote:

It has been reported that the Captain did a close “sail by” as a salute to a retried marine Admiral and the Head Waiter’s father, who lived in the town on the immediate shore.

The deviation was intentional and a bit of showmanship in “watch this”.

The phrase that most often precedes a funeral, “watch this”.

Jan 16, 2012 5:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
DennisinOhio wrote:

This “show-boating” is nothing more than murder first class as the Captain, under the influence, made several critical lapses of judgement and knew from the time he left the port that he was going to make a drive-by of the island. He then disabled the safety gear and thus the home company office could not monitor his location. He knew EXACTLY where we was and where he was going and just shaved it a bit too close. Still trying to figure out how the ship managed to get up against the harbor entrance heading south. Lots will be revealed by the black box information and none of it will be good for Costa, and particularly it’s moronic Capitano.

Jan 16, 2012 5:45pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Colt1909 wrote:

You don’t have to wait for the black box data. There is GPS position data available for the Costa Concordia right on the web. It is available for most ships. The position data shows that at 20:37 she was heading towards shore at over 15 knots. It would appear if she didn’t turn or slow down she would hit shore about 20:43 or in 6 or 7 minutes. The position data is only reported to the nearest minute, no seconds are given, so the estimated impact time could be off a minute. The high rate of speed towards shore seems reckless. Then there is 16 minute blank in the position data, even though it is normally reported every 2 or 3 minutes. What happened in these 16 minutes is uncertain. Probably a power failure was caused by contact with the rocky reef. Much less likely, maybe there was a random power failure causing the ship to be out of control which also stopped the position reports. The hole in the port side of the Cost Concordia is consistent with a hard turn to the north. At the end of the 16 minutes, the ship is shown past the point of rock where she sank, so she must have turned around and headed south before sinking.

Jan 16, 2012 6:35pm EST  --  Report as abuse
BurnerJack wrote:

Frozenusa is ezactly correct. 4 miles off course is well within the GPS navigation capability, etc. It is impossible, utterly impossible that a Captain being capable and responsible could be unaware of this position error. For any reason. If the navigation equipment were not operational, it is the Captain’s ultimate resposibility to safely command the vessel, upto and including halting travel until such time as normal operations can be resumed.
As far as abandoning ship before securing the passengers, there can be no excuse viable or acceptable. Vehicular Manslaughter as well as Manslaughter due to gross criminal negligence would likely be just some of the charges brought to bear.

Jan 16, 2012 7:49pm EST  --  Report as abuse
dtschuck wrote:

In the U.S. publicly available high-resolution GPS allows farmers to plant fields with GPS steering, planting the straightest rows you’ve ever seen. More common used GPS, used in aircraft, has resolution to 3′-4′. Since there were no reported GPS outages or degredation in that area, at the time of the accident, the idea the ship could be 4 miles off course and not know it is laughable. The only consistent story is show-boating, as reported by people in the nearby village to be ready to wave at the crew as it sailed by.

Jan 17, 2012 8:35am EST  --  Report as abuse
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