New mental health manual is "dangerous" say experts

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BMCDADDY wrote:

What if mental illness really is as common as the common cold? Less Stigma?

Feb 09, 2012 3:04pm EST  --  Report as abuse
gregbrew56 wrote:

Then let’s ban and burn it, as some do with Huck Finn and Catch 22.

“Experts”, hah…
it’s impossible for a book to be dangerous, unless it’s literally being used as a bludgeon.

If you don’t like it, don’t read it…

Feb 09, 2012 7:14pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CalGal wrote:

Gregbrew, it’s not a reading book!!! It’s a diagnostic reference manual which describes different diagnoses for mental illness. Shyness, grieving over the death of a loved one, being a bratty kid, have now all be medicalized with a diagnostic label. This is dangerous because it pigeonholes normal behavior and makes it treatable, as if it must be subject to regulation.
This is dangerous. If you are depressed because someone died, do you really want a diagnosis of mental illness following you around? If your kid is having trouble with a teacher (possibly because the teacher is inept) do you want the kid to start out life with a DSM diagnosis.
This is Big Brother as much as social networking is. Every aspect of our lives will be on file somewhere, including our inner lives.
It can’t be burned fast enough to suit me.

Feb 09, 2012 11:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CalGal wrote:

Gregbrew, it’s not a reading book!!! It’s a diagnostic reference manual which describes different diagnoses for mental illness. Shyness, grieving over the death of a loved one, being a bratty kid, have now all be medicalized with a diagnostic label. This is dangerous because it pigeonholes normal behavior and makes it treatable, as if it must be subject to regulation.
This is dangerous. If you are depressed because someone died, do you really want a diagnosis of mental illness following you around? If your kid is having trouble with a teacher (possibly because the teacher is inept) do you want the kid to start out life with a DSM diagnosis.
This is Big Brother as much as social networking is. Every aspect of our lives will be on file somewhere, including our inner lives.
It can’t be burned fast enough to suit me.

Feb 09, 2012 11:50pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CalGal wrote:

Gregbrew, it’s not a reading book!!! It’s a diagnostic reference manual which describes different diagnoses for mental illness. Shyness, grieving over the death of a loved one, being a bratty kid, have now all be medicalized with a diagnostic label. This is dangerous because it pigeonholes normal behavior and makes it treatable, as if it must be subject to regulation.
This is dangerous. If you are depressed because someone died, do you really want a diagnosis of mental illness following you around? If your kid is having trouble with a teacher (possibly because the teacher is inept) do you want the kid to start out life with a DSM diagnosis.
This is Big Brother as much as social networking is. Every aspect of our lives will be on file somewhere, including our inner lives.
It can’t be burned fast enough to suit me.

Feb 09, 2012 11:51pm EST  --  Report as abuse
CalGal wrote:

Gregbrew, it’s not a reading book!!! It’s a diagnostic reference manual which describes different diagnoses for mental illness. Shyness, grieving over the death of a loved one, being a bratty kid, have now all be medicalized with a diagnostic label. This is dangerous because it pigeonholes normal behavior and makes it treatable, as if it must be subject to regulation.
This is dangerous. If you are depressed because someone died, do you really want a diagnosis of mental illness following you around? If your kid is having trouble with a teacher (possibly because the teacher is inept) do you want the kid to start out life with a DSM diagnosis.
This is Big Brother as much as social networking is. Every aspect of our lives will be on file somewhere, including our inner lives.
It can’t be burned fast enough to suit me.

Feb 09, 2012 11:53pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Timkbg wrote:

I say hooray. I dont think there’s much of a stigma associated with a mental disorder as in depression or bipolar, etc., and it’s about time we recognized these and other behaviors as “mental disorders” and perhaps instead of punishing, we give them help. There’s much more stigma and labeling and punishment with undiagnosed mental disorders than the opposite. Perhaps there will be progress in this the twenty first century after all. Hooray!! About time!!

Feb 10, 2012 8:34am EST  --  Report as abuse
nucleardwight wrote:

Of course, the DSM tries to describe people and their problems, not solely mental illness for court cases.

Take care.

Feb 10, 2012 1:37pm EST  --  Report as abuse
aninonymous wrote:

Read the book “My Lobotomy” about 12 year old given a lobotomy….
Today’s “psychiatric” profession is just the next generation of the same thinking……dehumanize the “patient”, drug them without care for side effects….ruin their lives

Feb 10, 2012 3:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
ColleenHarper wrote:

I wonder how many of these new diagnoses were recommended by pharmaceutical companies who had drugs they wished to expand market share.

Feb 10, 2012 5:00pm EST  --  Report as abuse
johnnybe wrote:

BMCDADDY “MENTAL” illness, is the stigma,Normal people know of you feel ok, you think ok, so the answer isn’t in convincing someone their not ok, its in convincing them the are ok,that they’re going to be ok,Lets try insecure, troubled, as opposed to mental, or diseased, thats the first rule, do we tell a kid crying from a fall they’re not ok, no, we tell them they’re ok, we hug them and love them well, what makes you think its any different when we grow up, psychiatry makes you think differently, thats what and who, how about you start with the first common aliment, lets call it a “sell sickness syndrome illness” or a “see/be sick syndrome illness” or an “insecurity illness syndrome” or a “bah bah neurosis” and why not? how does it feel to be imagined as having an insecurity,that someone calls, or imagines to be an illness, got you angry? slightly bothered? want to punch me? be honest now.What about when we start to shove some poison down your throat and you start to hallucinate, feel alienated,suicidal,from it etc? I don’t suppose you’d have a problem with that then either. Tell ya what I haven’t had a cold for years, but by the time these enemies of the people bring out their new book of make a quid recipes for sick book, we could all be getting poisoned, and as long as they’ve got people supporting “their” creative imaginations, i cant see any reason its not going to be as common as night and day, let alone the cold.

Feb 10, 2012 5:09pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Targus28 wrote:

I bet theres no disorder in the DSM for kids that are too compliant.This is just another way to pigeon hole people into boxs, and labels and is very dangerous.Labeling a kid at 12 with a disorder, could have a heavy influence on his/hers mental deveopment and is just plain crazy.This needs to be stopped.Alot of these ‘disorders’ are just infact normal reactions to life events, example, losing a loved one and being depressed is completely normal.Its all a money making and control thing imho

Feb 11, 2012 9:04am EST  --  Report as abuse
angerona wrote:

Mental health has simply become another commodity to be bought and sold in the marketplace. If you think you’re sane, hold on, we can invent a disorder for you.

Feb 11, 2012 9:19am EST  --  Report as abuse
StenBsel wrote:

The only question to ask is “who funded the DSM-5 ? ”
At least we know the answer for the “Merck manual”, a guide to doctors to pick the right drugs. Without a reply responsible doctors cannot employ it.
If it was called XXXXX ” manual to the use of drugs in the (indefinite) treatment of old and here classified (new) mental diseases” questions of vested interest would not have to be raised.
Why do we always have to lift all this wool out of our eyes?

Feb 11, 2012 2:34pm EST  --  Report as abuse
SuzyMofo wrote:

It’s good to see at least the majority of people who’ve read this article recognize how dangerous this new DSM could be. BCMDADDY and gregbrew had me worried there for a moment…

I really don’t even know where to begin, as it seems the problems with the DSM-5 are endless. In short, we need to widen our scopes as to what is ‘normal’ behavior. Classifying each and every facet of human nature as a disorder just serves to make hypochondriacs out of us all.
Oh, and also to stuff the pockets of those ever-dutiful drug companies…

Basically, the APA’s do’in it wrong.

Feb 11, 2012 4:47pm EST  --  Report as abuse
WDHommel wrote:

DSM-V’s methods are risky? This is not the first time!

Damage already occurred after DSM-IV. You can easily find in google articles about DSM-IV leading to a 4000% (!) increase in diagnosis of bipolar disease in America. It is why the former Chief of DSM-IV is one of the prominent people warning about DSM-V.

A book (and site) that address a lot of those misdiagnoses is called “Hope for the Violently Aggressive Child.” Google it, read it, and help us spread this important information please!

Alternatively, you might google for these terms:
bipolar overreactivity patient screening survey

Feb 12, 2012 1:52pm EST  --  Report as abuse

Again the establishment seeks to attempt to render people who are a burden on society unfit to live by deeming them mentally unstable using a spurious diagnostic manual. This kind of unatural selection of the fittest in society has finally become a reality. It comes as no surprise in this culture of death which pervades our society. Even immorality and decency are now termed as an addiction and accepted as a norm by the secularists and liberals therefor denying the existence of free will. The age of darkness is here and the only defence we have is prayer. God help us all.

Feb 12, 2012 6:01pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Glynniso wrote:

When I was sixteen, I was taken to a neuropsychiatrist by my mom, because I was having severe issues with dealing with the high school to college transition. After many hours of so-called objective testing, the neuropsychiatrist and his group told my mom that I had disorganized schizophrenia. Thankfully, we got a second opinion, and I was told I was just odd. Eight years later, I’m still odd, and definitely not schizophrenic.

Incorrect diagnostic codes do more damage than charging your insurance incorrectly, if a person is told they have _____ disorder, they’re far more likely to take emotions they would normally experience, and suddenly contribute them to a disorder, feeding into themselves because they think they’re bipolar or schizophrenic- it can very quickly turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy with even a relatively mentally healthy person.

Feb 12, 2012 8:11pm EST  --  Report as abuse
Krishbeck wrote:

Follow the money trail! Is homosexuality back in the book as a mental illness??? I would really like to know as it would show more of the agenda here! Serious mental illness and for that matter, any mental illness is still something that makes people back away. If a child carries that label it will influence his/her entire life and worse his/her opinion of him/her self!

Feb 12, 2012 9:33pm EST  --  Report as abuse
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