September 15, 2015 / 10:07 PM / 4 years ago

Contrarian CEOs tell the Fed: Go ahead, raise my rates

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Some U.S. chief executives think it is time to pick interest rates off the floor, even as many of their peers campaign to maintain the status quo.

The Federal Reserve building in Washington September 1, 2015. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

The Federal Reserve meets this week and the first rate rise in nearly a decade — albeit a small one — is on the table. Most businesses, including over 64 percent of those surveyed last week by the National Association of Manufacturers, think it is a bad idea. Many say the economy is still too shaky to risk it.

But not everyone feels that way, interviews with manufacturers representing a broad range of industries and regions, show.

Neal J. Keating, chief executive of Kaman Corp (KAMN.N) in Bloomfield, Connecticut, says “a measured” quarter point hike would be beneficial. He foresees no real impact on business investments from a modest hike, and his company would get a boost because higher rates would reduce pension liabilities that weigh down the balance sheet.

“It would actually remove some of the uncertainty” hovering over the economy, says Mr. Kaman, whose company sells $1.8 billion a year in aerospace and defense parts, including cockpits for Black Hawk helicopters and bomb fuses. When rates are low, the calculations of future returns decline. Many companies, including Kaman, faced underfunded plans in recent years.

Scott Wine is another contrarian, who says a rate rise would boost confidence that the economy is truly getting stronger.

“A nominal interest increase would signal that we’re on our way to normalization,” says the chief executive of Polaris Industries Inc (PII.N), a maker of outdoor sports equipment which employs 7,000 people worldwide. He notes that “a rising interest rate environment” is usually a signal that the economy is thriving.

This week’s two-day Fed meeting, which ends on Thursday, was once viewed as a likely moment for the central bank to raise rates for the first time since 2006, but expectations have diminished since a sharp slowdown in China has roiled global markets.


Advocates of a hike say what is holding the economy back is flaccid growth in demand and misguided policy from Washington, including allowing tax breaks that encouraged capital spending to expire at the end of 2014 and endless budget battles in Congress. None of those problems are being addressed by near-zero interest rates.

"Even with rates extremely low, you only invest when you see opportunities for growth," says Wine. (Graphic: Business

Some are more conflicted. Robert Stevenson, chief executive of Eastman Machine Co, a maker of industrial fabric cutting machines with 50 workers in Buffalo, New York, and 100 at a plant in China, says higher rates would almost certainly hurt exports, which account for half his business, so he is “not enthused” about the prospect of higher rates. Many manufacturers worry a boost in rates would attract foreign investors to buy dollars, pushing up the value of the U.S. currency.

“But as a citizen, I take a somewhat contrary position,” says Stevenson. “I think it’s a problem that there’s no savings in this country because there’s no point to save.”

The NAM survey released last week showed larger manufacturers were more likely to want the Fed to hold rates steady, while roughly equal shares of small, medium and large firms said they would like to see an increase.

When the Fed pushed rates near zero during the depths of the 2007-2009 recession, it wanted to stimulate business spending of all kinds. A number of studies have concluded that the central bank’s efforts staved off a deeper crisis. But business investment has been unimpressive:  One broad measure of spending, which includes investments by businesses in structures as well as machines, less depreciation, has averaged only 2.7 percent of gross domestic product since 2010, down from the 4.9 percent average since 1980. (Graphic:

And there is no sign of an upswing. Duke University’s and CFO Magazine’s quarterly survey of U.S. chief financial officers last week showed they expect capital spending to increase only 2.4 percent over the next 12 months, down sharply from the 5.8 percent they expected in June.

Sluggish business spending is a likely culprit in the country’s slow productivity growth, and one reason Fed officials have downgraded their expectations for longer-term trend growth even as unemployment has fallen to just over 5 percent, half the recession levels.

It is not clear, however, why businesses are not spending. Some cite weak demand, others lingering overcapacity that has left factories with plenty of ways to boost output without buying new equipment or buildings.

“You go to zero interest rates when there’s a crisis and you’re trying to drive a dramatic change,” says Wine, the Polaris CEO. “But to hold onto it so long—it’s unhealthy.”

The volatile international environment has played a role too. Since the onset of the financial crisis in 2007, there have been a series of shocks, including the euro zone debt crisis, budget battles in the United States, and now the threat of an economic slump in China.

But just as super-low rates have not spurred business spending in this uncertain environment, a slight increase will not necessarily depress it, the contrarians say.

“Even if they make the move,” said Carl Laurino, chief financial officer of crane-maker Manitowoc Company Inc (MTW.N) in Manitowoc, Wisconsin, which had sales last year of $3.9 billion. “We’re still in a low interest rate environment, so it wouldn’t move the needle either way.”

Reporting By Timothy Aeppel; Additional reporting by Howard Schneider; Editing by Joseph White and Tomasz Janowski

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